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jgbecker88
01-22-2005, 03:17 PM

manloc.site
01-22-2005, 04:59 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I'm sorry but I can't resist to reply this post... (cause I'm french and I don't speak english very well...)
My think is:
Zandy's father found the Myst's linking-book in the New-Mexico's dezert and performed in the "Myst", "Riven", "Exile", and "Revelation" games.
In Uru and MystV games, it's all the bodies who listened the Yeesha's call, that performed.
That's all folks! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

AnubisSL5
01-22-2005, 07:38 PM
eeek... i hope your not saying that it was Zandy's father you were playing as in myst riven exile and revelation... cus those games take place in the early 1800's. Maybe Zandies great great great granfather?

manloc.site
01-22-2005, 07:54 PM
how sorry... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif
just a lose theory! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
well...
Atrus at the end of MystV have found the solution for we can come home and give us a linking book to return see him...
When we died, the linking book have be given to our child, and to the child of our child etc... and lost; zandy's father found it in the dezert. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
hum... 4:00am for me... i'm going to sleep; good evening! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

AnubisSL5
01-22-2005, 08:08 PM
night night =p

IMForeman
01-22-2005, 09:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jgbecker88:
Ok I've been thinking and how are Rand and Cyan Worlds going to get us into D'ni? There are only so many ways he could go about doing it so let's see what everyone thinks! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, you actually can't link from Tomahna directly to D'ni, as they are in the same Age... unless Yeesha wrote the book. She's just such a rule-breaker.

-IMF

ivanxuereb
01-23-2005, 12:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IMForeman:

Well, you actually can't link from Tomahna directly to D'ni, as they are in the same Age... unless Yeesha wrote the book. She's just such a rule-breaker. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Naughty girl. I thought that she learnt something from the events of Myst 4 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Zoonishii
01-23-2005, 08:32 AM
Umm, well, maybe you can get from Tomanha to D'ni... I mean, there was that little pod car in the beginning that went to some part of Tomahna that you never get to see... and there's apparently a linking book to Rime over there... I bet that's where Atrus keeps all his neat-o books...

...Like the one that leads to the Land of Dairy Queen... ...well, maybe not that one...


~Zoonshwalla-HEY!

manloc.site
01-23-2005, 12:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IMForeman:
Well, you actually can't link from Tomahna directly to D'ni, as they are in the same Age... unless Yeesha wrote the book. She's just such a rule-breaker.
-IMF <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
In the same age; you say?...
But...there is Nexus...

Alahmnat
01-23-2005, 01:26 PM
The Nexus is a seperate Age, it's not in D'ni.

realXCV
01-23-2005, 01:33 PM
What about the linking book in kadish vault at the end of POTS ?

manloc.site
01-23-2005, 01:37 PM
yes, I know; it's for that I say there's Nexus!
We can link from tomahna to nexus and after, we link from nexus to D'ni!

ArienMalfoy
01-23-2005, 01:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by manloc.site:Atrus at the end of MystV have found the solution for we can come home and give us a linking book to return see him...
When we died, the linking book have be given to our child, and to the child of our child etc... and lost; zandy's father found it in the dezert. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is similar to a thought I had: Wouldn't it be cool if your URU character was actually a decendent of Atrus's friend from the games? It would explain why some felt "called" to Yeesha's quest.

Just a thought. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

manloc.site
01-23-2005, 01:44 PM
and... how do you know nexus is not in the same age?
nexus can't be an age!
have you ever seen an age like that?
I think the nexus is a special room in D'ni! and why-not builed by yeesha herself?

manloc.site
01-23-2005, 01:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ArienMalfoy:
This is similar to a thought I had: Wouldn't it be cool if your URU character was actually a decendent of Atrus's friend from the games? It would explain why some felt "called" to Yeesha's quest.
Just a thought. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
How...yes... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif well... I just don't know... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Fissure_Walker
01-23-2005, 02:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by manloc.site:
and... how do you know nexus is not in the same age?
nexus can't be an age!
have you ever seen an age like that?
I think the nexus is a special room in D'ni! and why-not builed by yeesha herself? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Nexus isn't in the same age, because you are able to link to A'egura from it. If it was in D'ni, you wouldn't be able to link anywhere else in D'ni.

It could not have been built by Yeesha, as the D'ni were using it before the fall, which took place several centuries before Yeesha was born.

So yes, The Nexus is an age.

manloc.site
01-23-2005, 03:45 PM
ok...
but i don't understaind how it's possible...
it's strange... a little room with just some linking-books age!
before the D'ni have builed the machine, this nexus age have been empty!
how it's possible?
an age that is just an empty room!
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

HannaGertie
01-23-2005, 04:06 PM
I think the nexus isn't the whole age. Rather it is a room in a building in an age and one of many such rooms, as you never see another person there yet you know people use it at the same moment.

They probably used a uninhabited world to host the nexus buildings.

manloc.site
01-23-2005, 05:14 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I'm really stupid... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Zoonishii
01-23-2005, 05:28 PM
Oh... you said Tomahna and D'ni are in the same Age? Gosh... so... Tomanha is in the mountains on Earth somewhere?

I really need to read the Myst Reader...

I just noticed one of the screenshots on the Myst V site is of the telescope controls on Tomanha... so... I guess part of it takes place there...

~Shoonishooes

GadrenURU
01-23-2005, 07:12 PM
nope, the telescope controls are from the Age of Toldemer. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

IMForeman
01-23-2005, 11:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zoonishii:
Oh... you said Tomahna and D'ni are in the same Age? Gosh... so... Tomanha is in the mountains on Earth somewhere?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, it' in New Mexico.

-IMF

Zoonishii
01-24-2005, 05:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GadrenURU:
nope, the telescope controls are from the Age of Toldemer. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Aww, shucks... I'm terrible at this... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IMForeman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zoonishii:
Oh... you said Tomahna and D'ni are in the same Age? Gosh... so... Tomanha is in the mountains on Earth somewhere?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, it' in New Mexico.

-IMF <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Holy Moley!

Woo-woo-woo-woo-woo! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif


~Zoonsheesha

Ian [Atrus]
01-24-2005, 06:36 AM
Those telescope controls are from Todelmer, not Tomahna

Vertigo3
01-24-2005, 10:44 AM
Tomahna is in New Mexico, can someone please clarify as to where this information is coming from? I like to think I keep up on things and i don't remember this from anywhere.

GadrenURU
01-24-2005, 11:05 AM
the section "The House No One Can Find" in this might help:
http://www.primagames.com/games/images/interior/0761549110.pdf

be warned -- Myst IV spoilers...


also, look through the links in the following link to find RAWA's actual statement:
www.mystcommunity.com/board/ (http://www.mystcommunity.com/board/) index.php?showtopic=17155&view=old

Mowog
01-28-2005, 10:04 AM
Recall that when you located the moon using the telescope, it was most definitely Earth's moon. Also, Atrus says something about going to the Cleft to get some tools before heading to Rime. I suspect that the tram we ride at the beginning of Myst IV makes a stop at the Cleft.

Tweek
01-28-2005, 12:59 PM
I doubt it goes to the cleft...would be obvious having a track and a "futuristic" tram scooting along in the 1800's.

I expect it leads out of the "mountain" area then its a 20 minute to and hours walk to the cleft given that tomahna is a few miles from the cleft.

Having the tram out in the open risks his home being discovered along with the books.

Tweek

IMForeman
01-28-2005, 02:43 PM
Maybe the tram used to let out actually IN the Cleft... in the cave Yeesha put the Relto books in at a later date.

-IMF

ArienMalfoy
01-28-2005, 03:07 PM
I think either of those possibilities makes sense.

Eat_My_Shortz
02-01-2005, 05:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>and... how do you know nexus is not in the same age?
nexus can't be an age!
have you ever seen an age like that?
I think the nexus is a special room in D'ni! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You can't link from the same age to another location in that age. Except Yeesha's specal books, which, these *could* be, but they look like they are part of normal D'ni infrastructire, hence their existance in public places all around the islands. Not Yeesha's doing.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Oh... you said Tomahna and D'ni are in the same Age? Gosh... so... Tomanha is in the mountains on Earth somewhere? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Once again I refer you to my Myst Facts page:
Earth, D'ni, The Cleft and Tomahna (http://www.geocities.com/emsrelto/facts.html#EarthDniCleftTomahna)

In response to the question, I believe you will actually Start in D'ni. Hence no actual transportation method.

ArienMalfoy
02-01-2005, 05:15 PM
I can understand why some people are still confused. Honestly, when I first heard Yeesha's little speech where she says (trying to avoid a spoiler here) "...here in Tomahna," I thought she was talking strictly about the link being in Tomahna, not the place the link was for.

But your explanations are impecable. Thanks for the link!

Ni Cahlas the Young
02-03-2005, 09:51 AM
Why do people have to get into this same discussion over and over on every Myst forum? Read the forums on Uru... It's been discussed many times there.

ArienMalfoy
02-03-2005, 04:22 PM
Why do you have to come onto a thread that's already two pages long just to attack people? Don't you have anything better to do?

For that matter, which "discussion" are you referring to? The original poster was asking specifically how everyone thought the player would arrive in D'Ni in Myst V, not how you get to the game location in general. If you were referring to something else, perhaps you should be more specific.

But I still don't know why you felt the need to come onto this thread to do nothing but make a negative comment.

Tora_Neko
02-03-2005, 08:11 PM
Going back to the original question... (and adding in the tram from Revelation)

1) We start out in the Cleft
2) In the tree (where the Relto book was) we find a panel that opens a secret door. Behind this door is the tram
3) We tack a tram ride, which starts out underground. Later, we emerge from the ground in the mountains and head into (Revelation's) Tomahna.
4) We find a linking book to D'ni in Atrus's mountain retreat.

Oh, and I like the idea of being descended from the stranger from the preceeding games.

Spoiler Alert below! (if you haven't read the books)



That, or all the people Called to Yeesha's Journey in Uru are descended from the small
amount or D'ni who disappeared after the completion of the air-circulation tunels and fans when the D'ni first arrived.

GadrenURU
02-03-2005, 08:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tora_Neko:
4) We find a linking book to D'ni in Atrus's mountain retreat.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

unless you're planning on using Yeesha's weird linking rules, this isn't possible, since Tomahna and D'ni are the same Age.

ArienMalfoy
02-03-2005, 08:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tora_Neko:
That, or all the people Called to Yeesha's Journey in Uru are descended from the small
amount or D'ni who disappeared after the completion of the air-circulation tunels and fans when the D'ni first arrived. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Except I think that the suggestion here was that the entire human race on the surface of the earth was descended from those people. That would be a heck of a lot of people called!

Ian [Atrus]
02-04-2005, 10:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ArienMalfoy:
I think that the suggestion here was that the entire human race on the surface of the earth was descended from those people. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Am I the only one thinking that D'ni blood has absolutely nothing to do with the Call? I simply thought that the Called were those that heard of D'ni and liked exploring.

Only a few D'ni ever made it to the surface, and the humans were already there when they came here; the percentage of humans with D'ni blood, and the percentage of D'ni blood in their veins, are bound to be extremely small.

ArienMalfoy
02-04-2005, 10:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ian [Atrus]:
Only a few D'ni ever made it to the surface, and the humans were already there when they came here <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


How do we know humans were already here? I seem to remember reading that those D'Ni disappeared around 10,000 years ago or so, which would put them right around the time of some of the earliest known signs of human life, wouldn't it? Please, I'm not an archeaologist, so if that fact is incorrect, don't shoot me.

I do agree though that D'Ni blood probably has nothing to do with the call. It certainly is possible I suppose, but I just never got that impression from the game. I would have thought it would have been mentioned at some point, but then again there are a lot of things that are a part of the Myst universe that have never appeared in the games or books, but are still considered an official part of the mythology.

Ian [Atrus]
02-04-2005, 10:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ArienMalfoy:
How do we know humans were already here? I seem to remember reading that those D'Ni disappeared around 10,000 years ago or so, which would put them right around the time of some of the earliest known signs of human life <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

When the D'ni arrived we were just quitting nomadic life and building our first cities, but we've been around for quite longer than that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
The homo sapiens appeared around 200'000 years ago, while the homo genus evolved 2.5 millions of years ago.

ArienMalfoy
02-04-2005, 11:06 AM
Thanks for the explanation. Like I said, I'm no archaeologist, nor scholar of human origin and evolution. My interest was always in wildlife biology. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Tora_Neko
02-06-2005, 05:52 PM
Well I'm still holding on to the thought of a tram ride. I liked that Tram! Though I suppose we could link from the mountain retreat to somewhere else for a linking book into D'ni...

I still think the people who hear the call are descendd from those D'ni that came up to the surface. I don't think the DRC were publicising the existance of the cavern before the first explorers showed up. That's the inpression I got, anyway.