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JadehawkII
12-24-2006, 11:41 AM
Spent this morning learning how to land this contraption and can now say I figured out how to land the freakin thing without being a lawn dart. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
I made a simple mission just for training on this thing using that Gol...whatever map situated on a plateau airbase in the middle of nowhere. Nice little map with some interesting airbase configurations I might add. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Anyhow, after crashing a dozen times, I went and read the README file. You'd be amazed on what you can learn reading up on such things! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
To my credit, I'm half Scottish so that explains my stubbornness in learning on my own BEFORE reaching for the instructions! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
Yeah, Yeah I know Live and learn....such the way of a Scotsman! (even if I'm just half of one)

The key I was missing was....assigning a key for the auto-stabilization thingy and of course reading the rest of the README file. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Although the readme file says use 30% to 40% of the throttle for hovering, I found (In my aircraft loadout and configuration) it was about 49%-51% with full fuel and no ammo loadout. The Lerche will Hover for me in this configuration at 52% - 53%. A good safe descent would be at 51% - 50%. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
CAUTION! Watch your desent speed rate!! use your throttle to keep it going down slowly or else ya gonna be a lawn dart!!! (read the above statement at the begining)
I stayed in between 49% and 53% during the descent until I got about 5 - 10 meters above the ground and cut the power. But I think you can just cut the throttle down to zero as well.
I did the happy dance once I made my first safe and successful landing! Woohooo! I'm in!! I'm in the landing club! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif
Now I need to practice a slower approach and lower my hover height down from 2000 meters.
Hope this helps anyone who?s having a rough time at it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

P.S. anyone else who?s flown this and more so landing this thing have anything else to add to this? I'd sure like to hear your technique.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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TAW_Oilburner
12-24-2006, 12:15 PM
LOL same here. I think I single-handedly ended the lerche program for the luftwaffe. After 12 or 13 smoking craters in and around the test field I bothered to read the pilots handbook.

JadehawkII
12-24-2006, 12:58 PM
Hahaha!! Like minds think alike huh? Ahhh well, we guys eventually get the hang of it one way or another. Congrats on your sucess! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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WOLFMondo
12-24-2006, 01:58 PM
For your next task, replace the airfield with an escort carrier. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Cheers!!

actionhank1786
12-24-2006, 03:11 PM
haha, i dont think that's the scott in ya, i think that's called being a man!
WE DONT NEED DIRECTION!
Kinda ironic considering that the gamers market seems to be dominated by men (For the most part, although there are a good number of women gamers) and all we need to know is confined in the instructions! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Airmail109
12-24-2006, 05:09 PM
And that is why it would have never entered service, even if it was built and made to fly.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Platypus_1.JaVA
12-25-2006, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by JadehawkII:

Although the readme file says use 30% to 40% of the throttle for hovering, I found (In my aircraft loadout and configuration) it was about 49%-51% with full fuel and no ammo loadout. The Lerche will Hover for me in this configuration at 52% - 53%. A good safe descent would be at 51% - 50%. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


Read a bit more, it also depends on the fuel load http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

And now figure out how to land on the exact spot you want. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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NSAdonis85
12-25-2006, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by Platypus_1.JaVA:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JadehawkII:

Although the readme file says use 30% to 40% of the throttle for hovering, I found (In my aircraft loadout and configuration) it was about 49%-51% with full fuel and no ammo loadout. The Lerche will Hover for me in this configuration at 52% - 53%. A good safe descent would be at 51% - 50%. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


Read a bit more, it also depends on the fuel load http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

And now figure out how to land on the exact spot you want. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

With gentle, very gentle joystick inputs on the thing (mental note: run through your head how a plane maneuvers in a 90deg climb to figure out which action takes you where, hard to figure out)...I personally landed her the first time, and after a few hovering practices and horizontal touchdowns, I managed to get the hang of maneuvering with her in a hover. Keep in mind that YOU NEED AT LEAST 20% THROTTLE in order for the auto stabilizer to have any effect. I'll post more as I play with her.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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JadehawkII
12-25-2006, 08:14 PM
Yup! I agree with the relation with the fuel and AC weight will determine what the power setting will be when you land. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

After playing and learning about the Lerche, I can say if the Germans had the technology as modeled by Oleg and gang, the Allies would be in a world of hurt. Thankfully, the technology was just way too crude to even make this thing get off the ground at the time.
I can shoot down just about anything that flies with that thing. Go up against Jets? No problem. I went up against the Bf-109K (late) and was easy to control the engagement and chose when and how I wanted to attack. Keep in mind I was not armed with the missles, just the cannon as I wanted a even engagement. I even figured out how to control the Lerche where and when I wanted to land it now. But to be fair, it's not easy. Another thing, make sure ya got plenty of fuel for the landing sequence as you really do need some to land unlike a conventional airplane where ya can do a dead stick landing.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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[Elite]cobrae
12-26-2006, 02:29 AM
I was amazed when I landed it on my first attempt only to have one of the legs blown off by a Flak gun I hadent seen lol

Now I cant land it for the life of me<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Im so confused i feel like a hungry baby in a topless club.

general_kalle
12-26-2006, 02:55 AM
well tested it 01:00 the 24. as the first plane in my new game.

ok landing.
flat ground. check
gear...erhh check.
level stabalizer check http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

and landed with out problems....ยด

lerche touch down...check
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zbw_109
12-26-2006, 03:44 AM
Well I landed the Lerche in a Hangar http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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voyager_663rd
12-26-2006, 10:58 AM
And now that you know how to land it, you qualify to be a LEM (Lunar Exploration Module) pilot and can go to the moon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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NSAdonis85
12-26-2006, 11:01 AM
One thing I noticed when I started fooling around hard:

This thing is impossible to smash completely in a vertical, -200km/h speed "dive" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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"Incoming fire has the right of way."
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"Five second fuses always burn three seconds."
"The easy way is always mined."
"If you are short of everything but the enemy, you are in the combat zone."
"If the enemy is within range, so are you."
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Philipscdrw
12-26-2006, 01:34 PM
I don't have a joystick here, but got '46 yesterday. I did land the Lerche using only the keyboard. It looks like it should be fairly straightforward to control in the hover - just roll the thing using ailerons until it faces the way you want to move, then slight forwards pressure on the stick to 'push' it forwards. I got it onto the ground, which is where I wanted it to be - but I don't think I can actually land on a predetermined point without the use of a joystick (and perhaps also external views...)<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Platypus_1.JaVA
12-27-2006, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by Philipscdrw:
but I don't think I can actually land on a predetermined point without the use of a joystick (and perhaps also external views...)

Yes but when you hit shift+F1 (Or change crew position, I forgot)you can look beneath you, or straight forward if you are hanging vertical in the air. I don't fly it much but that should make it possible for you to navigate your airfield a bit http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Anyways, the Lerche has wheels. They just might tow it with a lorry or tractor to any position they want after you've landed.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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VFA-195 Moses
12-27-2006, 05:35 PM
The way i figured it out is i hit the speedbrake and once i did that it pitched my plane verticle and then i just slowly landed it like a helo 49 to 55 percent on throttle<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Max.Power
02-22-2007, 07:01 PM
The stabilization key sounds like a godsend. I figured out after a couple of goes that the thing is really stable in forward or backward flight, so what I was doing was stalling into the vertical over about 500 meters from the tarmack, then letting the thing fall back down backwards in a sustained, controlled backwards fall, until it was going about vertical (if it's going backwards the tail points to where it's headed)... then apply some careful breaking. After that you have to be very careful not to hover for too long or else the thing starts to gyrate, so you have to put it down quickly. I can't imaging doing that in a crosswind!!