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sukebeboy
07-31-2006, 08:51 PM
Man, I can't believe how good the weather effects look with the new patch. Game's much more stable now too.

SeaFireLIV
08-01-2006, 02:23 AM
It certainly is.

sukebeboy
08-01-2006, 03:27 AM
Spoke too soon. I'm getting the dreaded English text CTD bug whenever the game tries to load a Dornier. Never had that problem until now.

madsarmy
08-01-2006, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by sukebeboy:
Spoke too soon. I'm getting the dreaded English text CTD bug whenever the game tries to load a Dornier. Never had that problem until now.

Did you do a fresh install?
It is recommended that you do so. It might sort your problem out.

269GA-Veltro
08-01-2006, 04:41 AM
Yes, 2.04 is a very good patch. WOV is a new game now.

I really hope Oleg could try WOV 2.04, first of all for the clouds and for the fantastic sounds. Try the Spitfire or Hurricane MG...a dream....really a dream, as in the movie BoB. The same for the flak (incredible), the human voices and all the other sound effects (for ex. when you try to land).

The sky is really superb:

http://www.shockwaveproductions.com/bob_dev/PaulPics/shot_098b.jpg

http://www.shockwaveproductions.com/bob_dev/PaulPics/shot_099c.jpg

SeaFireLIV
08-01-2006, 04:49 AM
Oleg ought to try bobwov 2.04 just to get an idea on how to do a real proper dynamic campaign. Y`know, there`s no shame in getting good inspiration from your competitors. Oleg should avoid the deadly becoming too proud sin.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/shot_000.jpg
Me and a Spit, yesterday...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/carnage2.jpg
Saying hello to Stukas.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/highsmoke.jpg
Looking UP at smoke from 3000 feet!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/finoff6.jpg
110 takes part of my tail off- bugger.

ytareh
08-01-2006, 05:04 AM
On my hard drive -patched to 2.04-getting less than 5% of this games play time...

Jasko76
08-01-2006, 05:22 AM
Wow! I definately gotta try that game out! Been snowed in the Il2 landscape for far too long, it seems!

thefruitbat
08-01-2006, 05:25 AM
It does look good, but whats the actuall flying like? If it's any good i might consider a purchase, What do you guys think of the flight model compared to il2?

cheers frutibat

sopwithkennel
08-01-2006, 05:31 AM
http://www.wargamer.com/Hosted/CloseCombatFuture/!BoBII204.jpg

You got to love this game and the Hurricane.

Feathered_IV
08-01-2006, 05:54 AM
Are Luftie-kites flyable or does no one bother to fly them?

HuninMunin
08-01-2006, 06:10 AM
I think a veteran IL-2 player (me having been around since half a decade now) who switchs to BoBII will have something of a strange experience.

First, the menus: pure atmosphere, clips of original WW2 footage, great imagery etc.

Lets say you start with the training missions.
Hop into your 109 and find yourself on a perfect Luftwaffe airfield in 1940 (meaning it isn't one narrow landing strip but a big, round field )
Than you find out that you have 6DOF, can open the cockpit, have far more advanced CEM than in FAP.
The terrain looks good enough, however depending on your system, it may either look gorgeous or ****.
Your aircraft itself is just beoutifull, the modell captures every inch of the Emils fine lines and elegance, the Emil of IL-2 starts to look slugish and heavy to your eyes.

After you started your engine you will find it much more difficult to take off then in FAP.
However once your up, a flight instructor will comment on wether you did good or not.
The strong point of BobII starts to show even more clear: immersion, atmosphere.

You gain altitude and gaze about the ground textures, wich are no comparsion for whats to come in SoW, but look by far more realistic than in FAP.

You enter your first dogfight and will either find the AI and FM "fair" or not as good as in IL-2.
I personaly would describe it as different, just a matter of taste.
What is more realistic is gunnery IMHO.
Its much harder to hit in hi G turns than what we are used to here.
I'm a fairly good shot and pilot, but BoBII makes me feel that I've much to learn.

The campaign is mint, you are in the position to either command the complete attack on England or to command the total defense.
I've played a whole campaign without taking part in the battle at all; its such fun to push around numbers and craft your "master plan".

BoBII is complimentary to FAP in my opinion.
And its more a matter of taste wether you like it or not, then on actual + and -.

Try it, its worth its money.

sukebeboy
08-01-2006, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by madsarmy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sukebeboy:
Spoke too soon. I'm getting the dreaded English text CTD bug whenever the game tries to load a Dornier. Never had that problem until now.

Did you do a fresh install?
It is recommended that you do so. It might sort your problem out. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yup, that's what the guys at shockwaves BOB tech forum recommended. Worked like a charm. Game's looking and flying great now.

I also learned that for some reason, BoBII (even patched up to 2.04) uses the profile under the original BoB with Track IR. I found the roll to be kind of wonky before but after learning this, I was able to create a new profile and the 6DOF is much smoother and more stable now. (Spit's gunsite is still screwed up though.)

Jasko76
08-01-2006, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by HuninMunin:
Try it, its worth its money.

You've got me convinced!

What's the full name of this game so I know what to look for.

Jasko76
08-01-2006, 07:41 AM
Well, I've ordered my copy now! They don't have it in stock, but I should get it in two weeks. Gives me a chance to finish some campaigns in Il2.

HuninMunin
08-01-2006, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by Jasko76:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HuninMunin:
Try it, its worth its money.

You've got me convinced!

What's the full name of this game so I know what to look for. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

As I said, I hope its your taste http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Feathered_IV
08-01-2006, 08:49 AM
What is FAP? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

stanford-ukded
08-01-2006, 08:56 AM
Play.com have it in stock for ‚£17.99 delivered, Game have it in store for ‚£14.99 if you go and get it. I'm installing it now, I better not be dissapointed or I'm going to break all your legs!

HuninMunin
08-01-2006, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
What is FAP? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

FAP is the abriviation of the merged instal of

F orgotten battles + A ces expansion pack + P acific fighters

HuninMunin
08-01-2006, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by stanford-ukded:
Play.com have it in stock for ‚£17.99 delivered, Game have it in store for ‚£14.99 if you go and get it. I'm installing it now, I better not be dissapointed or I'm going to break all your legs!

We could arrange a duel on HL.
If you win, its my fault- if I win, its yours http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

SeaFireLIV
08-01-2006, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by stanford-ukded:
Play.com have it in stock for ‚£17.99 delivered, Game have it in store for ‚£14.99 if you go and get it. I'm installing it now, I better not be dissapointed or I'm going to break all your legs!


You must install the 2.04 Patch over your fresh install. Don`t even bother flying before doing that!

sukebeboy
08-01-2006, 10:20 AM
Those prices seem pretty high to me. I got my copy in Thailand for 398 baht (‚£5.60).

You might want to try ordering from here. Not sure what shipping will run you though.

http://www.zest.co.th/www/main/detail.php?product_id=GME0000574&catagory=3

Irish_Rogues
08-01-2006, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by sukebeboy:
Those prices seem pretty high to me. I got my copy in Thailand for 398 baht (‚£5.60).

You might want to try ordering from here. Not sure what shipping will run you though.

http://www.zest.co.th/www/main/detail.php?product_id=GME0000574&catagory=3

The cheapest I could in a quick "work search" was $49.99 in USA. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

slappedsilly
08-01-2006, 04:07 PM
I have both FAP and BoB2 WoV. It seems to me BoB2 was a crashy mess in the begining. I felt my money was wasted. The 2.04 patch has made the game like it should have bean on release. If I had to pick one word to decribe it, that would be hard. When I shoot one plane down, I feel that I've actually acheived something. I can take out 10 planes (offline) in FAP, but not in BoB2. It's probably more realistic to only get one, but 10 is more fun. The external views in BoB2 dont (IMO) feel as solid as FAP. If you like flight sims and don't have it, I would definatley buy it now. Upon release, I would have recommended otherwise.

Jester_159th
08-01-2006, 04:14 PM
I'd been totally put off this title when it first came out with all the CTD issues etc, but now this thread is getting my interest up again.

Just one question though, would it run decently on my rig?

P4 2.4gig CPU
1024MB PC2700 DDR RAM
ATI 9800Pro
AC97 onboard sound chip (yeah... I know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif )

Thank in advance for the info.

leitmotiv
08-01-2006, 04:28 PM
Just got my new copy. I second, stanford-ukded's position---if it is a dud and I'm burned a second time---grrr grrr.

SeaFireLIV
08-01-2006, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by Jester_159th:
I'd been totally put off this title when it first came out with all the CTD issues etc, but now this thread is getting my interest up again.

Just one question though, would it run decently on my rig?

P4 2.4gig CPU
1024MB PC2700 DDR RAM
ATI 9800Pro
AC97 onboard sound chip (yeah... I know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif )

Thank in advance for the info.

You should be ok with that... although not sure about your sound.

@leitmotiv, you`re making me feel a bit under pressure here for the shockwave team! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif All I can say is that 2.04 is far more stable than the default. I`ve not had any CTDs at all, although there was an odd situation where a Stuka vanished on me at low level (but didn`t do it the next time). I reported this to the devs, they`re looking at even further fixes of in game stuff.

But there are really major changes in 2.04 like effects, tracers, smoke, etc, etc...

I can`t guarantee since all PCs are different, but 2.04 is certainly a major step forward.

skissors
08-01-2006, 04:55 PM
Just wondering if Cam2Pan works with BOB.


Anybody tried it?

Xiolablu3
08-01-2006, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Jester_159th:
AC97 onboard sound chip (yeah... I know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif )

.


Jester, get on Ebay and get yourself a 2nd hand Soundblaster Live!, they cost between ‚£2 and ‚£4. You will find your sound so much better and get a framerate boost at the same time. Such a low price for much better performance.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Soundblaster-5-1-Live-PCI-Sound-C...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Soundblaster-5-1-Live-PCI-Sound-Card_W0QQitemZ300013453240QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3701Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Soundblaster-live-ct4830_W0QQitem...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Soundblaster-live-ct4830_W0QQitemZ180013773112QQihZ008QQcategoryZ370 1QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Soundblaster-live-ct4670_W0QQitem...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Soundblaster-live-ct4670_W0QQitemZ180013772671QQihZ008QQcategoryZ370 1QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

The older ones have a gameport on too which you can use for rudder pedals or a stick like a MS ForceFeedback Pro http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

slappedsilly
08-01-2006, 06:13 PM
No crashes since 2.04. Much better game now. Finally got what I paid for.

leitmotiv
08-01-2006, 07:16 PM
Just kidding, SeaFireLIV---I'm rooting for it to work just so I can be Jabs and go after Spits with my 110C! There won't be a flyable 110C in Oleg's so this is my only chance!

sukebeboy
08-01-2006, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:


All I can say is that 2.04 is far more stable than the default. I`ve not had any CTDs at all, although there was an odd situation where a Stuka vanished on me at low level (but didn`t do it the next time). I reported this to the devs, they`re looking at even further fixes of in game stuff.

But there are really major changes in 2.04 like effects, tracers, smoke, etc, etc...



If you're getting disappearing bombers, reduce particle density settings from FULL or HIGH to MEDIUM. Apparently, there's a problem with the textures when there's a lot of 40mm Bofors fire and the bomber is smoking. It only seems to affect people who installed a tracer mod under 2.03.

Feathered_IV
08-01-2006, 09:08 PM
Grrr! For the past six weeks, the EB stores around here have been selling WOV for under $20 Australian. I just went down there on my lunch break to find the sale ended on Monday. They are now selling at $40 again http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

r_c
08-01-2006, 10:10 PM
..hot on a Spitfires tail http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/577/snap14bobiihv6.jpg

leitmotiv
08-01-2006, 10:18 PM
Up and running. Thanks to all for the tip. It is, indeed, what I hoped it would be when it came out a year ago. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. Can even set my convergence for 50 yards---now we're talkin'! Only gripe---wish I could look all the way around behind in my 110---the C didn't have the big plate of armor the G had. By the way, how do I get rid of the enemy position crib (the little insignias around the edge of the screen)?

r_c
08-01-2006, 10:25 PM
disable peripheral vision ..(under viewshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Feathered_IV
08-02-2006, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by r_c:
..hot on a Spitfires tail http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/577/snap14bobiihv6.jpg

There is a Spitfire in that picture? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

WTE_Ibis
08-02-2006, 02:32 AM
I've looked at that for 10 minutes or more and haven't seen that Spittie yet??
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

.

leitmotiv
08-02-2006, 03:13 AM
Thanks, r_c. Happy as 10,000 clams. Purring like a million cats.

knightflyte
08-02-2006, 07:43 AM
Be that Christina Applegate in her prime???????


I patched up to 2.04. It's pretty stable as far as CTDs. My problem is airplanes dissappear on me. I didn't have that happening before.

I use TIR4 and now thinking about what a previous poster mentioned concerning the BoB vs. the BoB:WoV profile I'll have to try that.

As it is now with the flickering I can't play it.

I did a fresh reformatting a few days prior to reloading BoB so my machine is clean. I'll probably try a different driver.

leitmotiv
08-03-2006, 01:29 AM
I still have an occasional lock-up and crash or just a crash. The primary selling point is the attention to detail: correct terrain, bases, towns, ports, even convoys, correct formations, correct tactics, detailed working cockpits, TrackIR fully utilized (can look down the side of your nose, forward, back---still has a dead area to rearward like IL-2 COMPLETE---only FS2004 and CFS3 fully utilize TrackIR). BOB2 does something which I am not sure is accurate but it is interesting. While with IL-2 COMPLETE you can almost see where your bullets are hitting, with BOB2 the image is like that of gun camera footage where the tracers are tendrals moving towards the target, and, suddenly, there is a blossom of smoke if you hit, and that's about it. In other word, in most cases you aren't really sure whether you soundly whacked your target or just hit it. Another thing to which you must adapt is the "crowded sky" (to use a contemporary term). It's not as personal as IL-2---it is a barroom brawl with planes everywhere. The AI is commendably elusive---you will be lucky if you can get off more than a snap burst before your target flits off. Pretty soon you realize the futility of brawling and want to climb out of the scrum to get your situational awareness for a diving attack on a lone aircraft away from the main battle. In sum, BOB2 captures the "smoke of battle" syndrome superbly. If you must be "master of your domaine", it is not for you. My primary criticism is that they didn't utilize TrackIR completely, and I could kick them for creating a total "dead zone" behind the head of the 110C pilot which is completely in error---the poor guy can't even approximately "check six."

bazzaah2
08-06-2006, 03:56 AM
great to hear about this - does 2.04 require any other patches before hand or is that the only one you need?

leitmotiv
08-06-2006, 04:17 AM
You only need 2.04, but you have to do a clean install or there may be trouble. If you bought the brand new disk from Shockwave, as I did, it is version 2.04 and no patching is necessary. READ THE BRAND NEW VERSION 2.04 MANUAL! Here is where you can download it if you do not have the Shockwave 2.04 disk:

http://shockwaveproductions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5628

This is one heck of a complicated simulation and you won't get the most out of it if you do not!!!! Worth the time to get it optimized. A magnificent job of applying history to a sim.

SeaFireLIV
08-06-2006, 04:33 AM
They`ve bought a 2.04 game disc out already? They must like the patch then. But, it really should have been this way from the start. Ah well, kudos to them for perservering with it and not giving up.

bazzaah2
08-06-2006, 05:14 AM
I had the original release disk, did a clean install and patched it up. Just took it for a quick spin and it is way more stable, big improvements all round! Wasn't the coaster it was threatening to become!

Still a little unsure about the FM and AI but definitely worth a place on the disk.

ICDP
08-06-2006, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:My primary criticism is that they didn't utilize TrackIR completely, and I could kick them for creating a total "dead zone" behind the head of the 110C pilot which is completely in error---the poor guy can't even approximately "check six."

Look in Models folder and find the file called Bf110C4.acd, make a backup of this file.

In the Bf110C4.acd find and replace the values of the following lines. This should give you a less restricted view form your Bf110C4 cockpit.

MaxViewHeading 16384 (original value)
EyePosYOffset 0 (original value)
EyePosZOffset -6000 (original value)


MaxViewHeading 22576 (new value)
EyePosYOffset 2000 (new value)
EyePosZOffset -2000 (new value)

leitmotiv
08-06-2006, 07:28 AM
I am in your debt, ICDP---will do right now!

leitmotiv
08-06-2006, 07:54 AM
Did it---worked perfectly---is there any reason why the view could not be changed to 180 degrees to reflect the pilot's clear view aft? The aft cockpit seems to be passingly well detailed for this view. Thank you for your help, ICDP---this was my only real gripe with BOB2!

trumper
08-06-2006, 09:29 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifI have just bought mine off E Bay so i will patch it and pray.
Next question ,i have Track IR 3 ,version 3.10 is the vector expansion compatable with this version please or do i need to upgrade to version 4 [i think]..
Many thanks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

ICDP
08-06-2006, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Did it---worked perfectly---is there any reason why the view could not be changed to 180 degrees to reflect the pilot's clear view aft? The aft cockpit seems to be passingly well detailed for this view. Thank you for your help, ICDP---this was my only real gripe with BOB2!

Glad to be of help. Unfortunately there is no rear of the aircraft modelled in the Bf110C. If you could look round any furhter there would be a big gaping hole.

leitmotiv
08-06-2006, 06:49 PM
Drat! But the fix you gave me certainly puts the 110 back in the fight, and I am in your debt, ICDP---its my favorite B of Brit fighter!

I suggest trying support for the TrackIR, trumper. Certainly they can give you an answer. I am using the latest TrackIR4.

leitmotiv
08-06-2006, 11:32 PM
Calling ICDP!---I did some fiddling and pushed the visibility of the 110 pilot right to the edge of that blasted void---what do you think?

MaxViewHeading 2400
EyePosYOffset 100
EyePosZOffset -100

I have another setting (22576/100/100) which I like because the pilot position seems a bit back from the default position which is too close to the windscreen for my TrackIR4:Pro (you wouldn't know how to change the BOB2 settings to push this to the rear a bit?).

Do you think these changes will cause havoc with BOB2?

ICDP
08-07-2006, 09:57 AM
Hi leitmotiv,

The view settings are all dependant on zoom level. I have widescreen with 95 as my max zoomed out view. The numbers I posted are right at the edge for me. Each person mileage may vary http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

leitmotiv
08-07-2006, 03:51 PM
Thanks, again, ICDP! 110 Vastly improved. Too bad about that void. I changed POV to 180 degrees and saw the tail-less-ness. D---ed pity!

slappedsilly
08-07-2006, 09:21 PM
The game still crashes on me occasionally, but at least we can see what they meant to do. I may be insane, but I swear I've even heard pilots screaming as they bail out of bombers. Pretty cool effect I must say.

sukebeboy
08-07-2006, 10:22 PM
Yes, you can hear pilots and crews screaming as they bail. You can also hear ship's bells and irate seagulls if you fly down near the docks with your canopy open. Fantastic sound in the game. Oleg and his team should really have a listen.

SeaFireLIV
08-08-2006, 03:50 AM
Not sure how realistic it is to hear pilot`s scream, but it does add a very Human feel to the sim. You suddenly realise that you`re not just killing machines, but also men.

Worf101
08-08-2006, 08:23 AM
Saw this game for cheap in the store the other day. So now it's worth a try? Would be nice to know as I NEVER could get the original game to work at all.

Da Worfster

leitmotiv
08-08-2006, 09:35 AM
Since Oleg's masterpiece seems far far away, I recommend it---and I am a person who frisbeed the d--n disk last October and had to buy it anew. Read all the posts in this thread to know what you are going to buy, though.

Crash_Moses
08-08-2006, 10:58 AM
Barstards! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Car's on the fritz and I just went ahead and ordered the dang thing...

I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY!

See ya in my Stuka! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

S!

leitmotiv
08-08-2006, 11:23 AM
Ju 87 is well modeled, Crash_Moses---even has the floor window. Can't choose your load-out. Siren shrieks suitably. Can click your controls if you want. You also have Bf 110C-4/Bs and 109E/B fighter bombers for nasty fast attacks. An airfield attack looks close to photographs---dust and smoke---much more atmospheric than IL-2 COMPLETE. If you are feeling swinish you can strafe sheep (a new low---naturally, I went for it). Unfortunately, you can only man guns in the classic Luftwaffe bombers. Sightseeing in the middle of a massed Valhalla formation is very immersive. Go right to Battle of Britain Day, 15 Sept 1940, and try a fighter---massed formations everywhere---the mother of all brawls!

SeaFireLIV
08-08-2006, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Since Oleg's masterpiece seems far far away, I recommend it---and I am a person who frisbeed the d--n disk last October and had to buy it anew. Read all the posts in this thread to know what you are going to buy, though.

LOL. that makes me laugh. The only CD I frisbeed in a fit of temper was NFSIII which refused to work on XP. It wasted my entire night on it and I threatened it with death if it did it again. It did, so it died! My impatient youth.

leitmotiv
08-08-2006, 11:40 AM
I really went through it with that item---plus innumerable posts on the website which were not answered. Suffered a motherboard implosion about a month and a half later. Much of the trouble I was having possibly had nothing at all to do with the design! In my case it was not youthful irritation but curmudgeonly fury!

leitmotiv
08-08-2006, 11:01 PM
Wonder why Shockwave modeled everything in such detail yet left out mixture control? Curious.

SeaFireLIV
08-09-2006, 04:52 AM
Dunno, someone did ask that question, but the answer was something obscure... I think they ducked out of it.

On the other hand BOBwov Spitfire has the alarm for slow speed, but Oleg`s early Spit doesn`t. And the alarm did exist, though most pilots eventually turned it off (which you can do in wov too).

leitmotiv
08-09-2006, 08:14 PM
I was happy when I saw they made the reflector sight glass circular in the Hur and Spit---showed me they did their research.

slappedsilly
08-13-2006, 08:14 PM
Wish they'd make this game multiplayer. Probably won't ever happen though, too many bugs.

trumper
08-14-2006, 10:53 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Bought it,patched it,got the track ir Vector expansion and am really enjoying just flying around and listening.
I havent even tried the L/Waffe yet or any missions.Just enjoying flying around http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

96th_Nightshifter
08-14-2006, 11:59 AM
Should have my copy through the door within the next couple of days - will patch it before even playing out of the box. Just really want to hear the difference and get to use my track IR properly - I'm thinking of this as a training type tool for SOW: BoB; that and the fact that it will be nice to compare the games.

Lucius_Esox
08-14-2006, 01:03 PM
Hmm. From what is being said I'm gonna have to grab a copy of this game. The first one put me off a bit and because I was so in to IL2 I never bothered with the second.

Any idea anyone how it will run on this

XP2800, 1.5gb pc2700, Audigy 2 ZS, X800pro, Gigabyte GA7VAXP(I think thats the model)

I've also got TRack IR3 with out the vector expansion,,, still good ?

Will I be able to run it on high gfx settings ok ?

trumper
08-14-2006, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by Lucius_Esox:
Hmm. From what is being said I'm gonna have to grab a copy of this game. The first one put me off a bit and because I was so in to IL2 I never bothered with the second.

Any idea anyone how it will run on this

XP2800, 1.5gb pc2700, Audigy 2 ZS, X800pro, Gigabyte GA7VAXP(I think thats the model)

I've also got TRack IR3 with out the vector expansion,,, still good ?

Will I be able to run it on high gfx settings ok ?
I don't personally understand computers so no idea on specs.
I would use BoB11 as an addon and a change from il2 ,they are separate beasts.Vector expansion makes you realise what IL2 COULD'VE been like,certainly adds to the game.

alphalvr
08-14-2006, 02:37 PM
have they sorted the damage model yet?? after il2 its **** http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

also for some reason i prefer il2 ground graphics.....olegs forests are just sooo much better.

the sounds on the other hand are great

sukebeboy
08-14-2006, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Lucius_Esox:
Hmm. From what is being said I'm gonna have to grab a copy of this game. The first one put me off a bit and because I was so in to IL2 I never bothered with the second.

Any idea anyone how it will run on this

XP2800, 1.5gb pc2700, Audigy 2 ZS, X800pro, Gigabyte GA7VAXP(I think thats the model)

I've also got TRack IR3 with out the vector expansion,,, still good ?

Will I be able to run it on high gfx settings ok ?

I have virtually the same machine (500 MB more of ram and a bit more powerful CPU). It mostly runs very well on my PC. However, the new 6.7 Catalyst drivers from ATI do not perform nearly as well as 6.5 or 6.6. I get fairly frequent stutters and slowdowns and I had to drop particle density from HIGH to MEDIUM as the game turns into a slideshow when groundfire starts going off. I also got the dreaded disappearing smoke and bomber error that a lot of people have been reporting. I used to get that only on ULTRA HIGH particle density settings.

Hopefully they'll have it fixed up with the 2.05 patch.

MagnumHK
08-14-2006, 05:59 PM
Hey, this may seem a bit old fashioned but does this sim support New View???

It's the poor mans TIR and it works very well with FAP. As a matter of fact I would be hard pressed to fly without it now.

The report of great sounds has really gotten me curious. It may be more realistic to fly virtually mute as in FAP, but to me the sounds add a lot of immersion in OFFline play. I have really missed them since FAP took on the mostly mute sound environment. Real pilots used to wear headsets which undoubtedly hindered their ability to hear sounds even more. This coupled with the loud engines made the world seem mute to everything else.

However, I only have a flat monitor to look at which is only a small fraction of what a real pilot could see in the first place. There are many other limiting factors that make this far less of an experience than a real pilot would enjoy. When you take the richness of sound away it's like loosing another dimension in the very limited flying experience that an ordinary PC can bring.

Moreover, with the limitations of current technology some realism factors must at the very least be considered an option in order not to kill the feeling of immersion. The feeling of immersion and atmoshere is crucial to the flying experience and good sound is one of those key immersion factors. This is just my humble opinion on the matter.

In addition, I have always thought it would be great to hear an actual voice give the commands after one has selected the text for the command.
This again would increase the immersion factor.
ONline players have this advantage (teamspeak etc.) but OFFline players do not.
By the way does BoB WoV have this option?

I don't post often but thought this was really worth the effort.

Thanks,
great forum http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

skissors
08-14-2006, 07:38 PM
Hey, this may seem a bit old fashioned but does this sim support New View???

It's the poor mans TIR and it works very well with FAP. As a matter of fact I would be hard pressed to fly without it now.

I can't get Newview working with it, But If you have Cam2pan that works with mouseview, a bit of tweaking and it should be find.

Can be a pain when you are trying to click the game menus whilst moving your head.

MagnumHK
08-15-2006, 10:22 PM
Hello,

Thanks for the response Skissors. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Did anyone think of contacting the author of New View to see if he could adapt his program to play with BoB WoV? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Feathered_IV
08-15-2006, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by skissors:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Hey, this may seem a bit old fashioned but does this sim support New View???

It's the poor mans TIR and it works very well with FAP. As a matter of fact I would be hard pressed to fly without it now.

I can't get Newview working with it, But If you have Cam2pan that works with mouseview, a bit of tweaking and it should be find.

Can be a pain when you are trying to click the game menus whilst moving your head. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Would that work with OFF?

WWMaxGunz
08-15-2006, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jester_159th:
AC97 onboard sound chip (yeah... I know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif )

.


Jester, get on Ebay and get yourself a 2nd hand Soundblaster Live!, </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've had a number of systems between what I owned and helped maintain that removing that card
made the difference between unstable and works right. All were AMD powered, btw. It's a shame
since before 2000 it was no problem for me and the SB Live environment control was such a joy.

Now a standard as you can get SB-16 PCI card is another thing altogether. And I dunno about
the Audigy.

major_setback
08-18-2006, 04:10 PM
I still have'n't got it. Will have to now. I had a quick look at the many changes/fixes that have been made. I just posted a few that caught my eye here.


Here is a list of the fixes and a link to the patch:

http://shockwaveproductions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5...a2e0cb8682461cc0b793 (http://shockwaveproductions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5559&sid=c164a5ecac4aa2e0cb8682461cc0b793)

I like the sound of these changes:

"11. After player bail out, players A/C now heads to the ground rather that looking like it was on autopilot.
12. Prevented AI A/C from doing vertical maneuvers when energy level is low and the AI A/C cannot do the maneuver properly.
13. Add an option based on a random number for a fighter/Ju87 to blowup when it has significant engine damage (by user request to have A/C blow up sometimes). Note: BOB_FIGHTERFIX=ON in Bdg.txt.
14. The Ju87 was added to the fighters and with significant engine damage they will either blowup, crash, or bailout. The bailout will only occur if the A/C canopy has not been damaged. If the canopy is damaged the A/C will crash and you hear a Texas death yell. Note: BOB_FIGHTERFIX=ON in BDG.txt. ...

28. Fixed the jittery and un-natural movements for both the DISENGAGE and the SCREWYOUGUYSIAMGOINGHOME SimpleACM maneuvers.


New AI features
1. Novice_Stronger_Bullits. The bullets are about 20% stronger for those who want to get on with it (like when I test) and so our Kids/Novice users can shoot down the AI easier and have more fun until seasoned.

14. People run from populated ground objects when attacked
15. Brighton Pier added with LOD‚‚ā¨ôs (level‚‚ā¨ôs of detail). The far tiles actually have the pier in the terrain tiles. There is a gap between the point where this far tile texture disappears and the actual object appears. This cannot be helped due to the maximum allowed distance to draw objects. (Tim Evenden, support work by Scott gentile and Ben Evenden) "

major_setback
08-18-2006, 04:31 PM
I like the new lighting effects and hills that are being worked on (or maybe already inplemented?). From the screenshot forum.

http://home.earthlink.net/~cswindell/images/shot_052.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~cswindell/images/shot_044.jpg

skissors
08-19-2006, 12:21 AM
Would that work with OFF?


Sorry I'm not sure what OFF is.

I think it will work with most things as long as you can use the mouse to look around the cockpit, it just replaces it the mouse with your head movements.

Only thing I can't get it to work with is Lomac.

han freak solo
08-19-2006, 02:25 PM
This thread settles it. I'm a buyin'. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

han freak solo
08-19-2006, 02:32 PM
It looks like you can blow the pants off people.

http://www.shockwaveproductions.com/bob/forum/205_1.jpg

trumper
08-19-2006, 02:59 PM
It really should'nt be compared to il2 ,fly it as an addition and enjoy the difference http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

han freak solo
08-19-2006, 03:09 PM
Here it is for $26.75 US. 56 left at this place.

http://ign.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=17052572

Low_Flyer_MkVb
08-19-2006, 03:13 PM
Compare the price to a night out...if it keeps you in for one night it's no loss, is it? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Give it a go, I say - the patch has made a difference, even if they forgot the Whirlwind http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

leitmotiv
08-19-2006, 05:02 PM
If you enjoy a rip-roaring donnybrook, it's great. If you want to try to be clever, it's great. You can even play at the highest level--- Dowding vs Goring in the operational sim. This is a pretty big package, and it delivers. Ten months ago I turned red at the sight of it. They did an excellent job of reviving a dead-on-arrival sim.

major_setback
08-19-2006, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
Compare the price to a night out...if it keeps you in for one night it's no loss, is it? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Give it a go, I say - the patch has made a difference, even if they forgot the Whirlwind http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

That's close to my attitude too. Even if I only play a game a handful of times I think of it as being like a few rides at a fun fair (like I did with Wings of War which I've ony played about 10 times) - And it probably doesn't work at at much more expensive.
Having said that it seems like the new patch means more than just a few joyrides.

MagnumHK
08-19-2006, 05:52 PM
Is this sim a DVD or a CDROM release?

Trying to get all my facts staight before actually ordering.

Having a hard time getting this title with the local computer shops in British Columbia, Canada.

major_setback
08-19-2006, 05:54 PM
They seem to be improving all the time. Heres the latest update, installs over 2.04

new terrain detail, the download is at this form post:

http://shockwaveproductions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5930

Low_Flyer_MkVb
08-20-2006, 06:24 AM
Originally posted by MagnumHK:
Is this sim a DVD or a CDROM release?

Trying to get all my facts staight before actually ordering.

Having a hard time getting this title with the local computer shops in British Columbia, Canada.

It's CDROM - although the copy I've got came with a documentary DVD.

Did anyone mention the sheep? Might help to shift a few copies in Dorset and Wales http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/bob2006-09-0212-13-19-78.jpg

Feathered_IV
08-20-2006, 07:58 AM
Lol, I thought the Spit was 6ft off the ground and that was dandruf http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

leitmotiv
08-20-2006, 10:18 AM
This item is a gem. Tried leading 111 Squadron Hurricanes against a Valhalla formation of Dornier 17s yesterday and I was astounded at the detail and realism.

Irish_Rogues
08-20-2006, 01:16 PM
My copy is on the way Thanks to han freak solo. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif I was going to wait for the 25th when Amazon UK shipped their cheap copies.

leitmotiv
08-20-2006, 02:34 PM
If anybody is using TrackIR and finds they are too close to their instrument panel, try the following:

Options>ADV>Field of View

Maximum Field of View: 110

Initial Field of View: 110

And here is a way to increase your field of view to the rear in the Bf 110C (you should have an unobstructed, except by rear gunner, view to the rear in the C):

Models folder>Bf110C4.acd

MaxViewHeading 22576

EyePosYOffset 2000

EyePosZOffset -2000

Unfortunately you can't see dead aft because the model has a huge hole aft. Best you can do is about 155 degrees. I'm still fine tuning this. At any rate, you can fly your 110 with nearly the vis aft the real pilots had---better than the default 90 degrees.

HuninMunin
08-20-2006, 02:42 PM
Does this game have a Lerche II? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

SeaFireLIV
08-20-2006, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
If you enjoy a rip-roaring donnybrook, it's great. If you want to try to be clever, it's great. You can even play at the highest level--- Dowding vs Goring in the operational sim. This is a pretty big package, and it delivers. Ten months ago I turned red at the sight of it. They did an excellent job of reviving a dead-on-arrival sim.

My job is done. No more need I try and convince others here. leitmotiv has taken the banner to hold high...

***wipes away a tear of joy****

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Low_Flyer_MkVb
08-20-2006, 02:58 PM
A little something to get you in the mood...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-n62P4ve8E&mode=related&search=

Jagdgeschwader2
08-20-2006, 03:26 PM
Oh heck... I'll give it a go too.

http://home.earthlink.net/~jagdgeschwader26/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jagdgeschwader2s.jpg

han freak solo
08-20-2006, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by Irish_Rogues:
My copy is on the way . . .

Mine too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

leitmotiv
08-20-2006, 05:10 PM
Remember, read the manual to get the most out of it, and use the forums---very good, very helpful people over there:

http://tinyurl.com/rhays

You can't leave me manning the parapet, SeaFireLIV, I'm liable to panic and end up on a LMF charge. Craven Poltroon MkIV

major_setback
08-20-2006, 06:05 PM
Here's the downloadable manual for 2.04:

http://shockwaveproductions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5934

Dtools4fools
08-20-2006, 06:06 PM
How do the AI gunners on bombers preform? How about the blind spot of fighters. AI can be surprised or auto detection of enemy at 6 at certain distance as we are used to it...

*****

SeaFireLIV
08-20-2006, 06:42 PM
Dtools4fools, if you`re comparing AI gunners to IL2 AI gunners be prepared for a big difference. AI gunners are a breeze in BOBwov. You can swan up to Stukas and have a gaggle of them all over the place with very little marks on you. The biggest danger in approaching a group of HE111s is in colliding with them, not getting shot down - and this is from coming on dead six!

Of course, hang around long enough in and around Jerry bombers and you WILL get a smoking engine and might even have to bail. Headshots? Non-existent as far as I can tell. There should be a small chance of it imho.

Biggest danger is in getting overwhelmed by fighters and bombers if playing British. It`s very easy to get shot down (even when warned). Jerry 109s do NOT make fighting easy either.

AI fighters and gunners can`t see in cloud. Nice. I`ve flown into enemy fighter streams and not been attacked, but was this a bug or AI not seeing me? Hard to tell. Also, dogfights are somewhat different to IL2`s because there are SO MANY aircraft. It`s usually just a mass of planes all over the place. I don`t get many chances to get a Jerry by surprise to see if he saw me or not.

You`ll see what i mean if you try.

I`m still watching, leitmotiv http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

flaysepulcrast
08-20-2006, 10:43 PM
Yeah, sounds in BOB II are cool, sure, but graphically the game is FUGLY.

I bought it after reading about all these 2.04 wonders you wrote in this thread and almost got depressed after trying it.

I think it would be fair to state here BOB II is not a game for everyone (specially because it has real fugly graphics).

Also, the Bf109 has the exact flight model of a brick about to stall.

leitmotiv
08-20-2006, 11:03 PM
On the Shockwave forums some believe the 109 is too hard to stall! Ugly? No invisible Maddox trees. Real-looking cities. Real-looking air bases. Real-looking convoys. Real looking London smog. Where else are you going to go into battle surrounded by fellow Hurricanes or Spitfires in historical formations? Bombers do not put bullets through your windscreen at 400 meters. Persistent smoke after air attacks. IL-2 ETC is pretty but it is shallow compared to the depth of research and realization of the research in the Shockwave production. And, the work still goes on at Shockwave.

sukebeboy
08-21-2006, 12:00 AM
I think the graphics are generally quite well done, especially the weather and tracer effects. About the only area where I would agree the graphics are quite poor is in ground textures. Forests look like blocks and town/village tilesets are almost entirely 2D. They look fine from 1,500 metes, but down on the deck is another matter.

leitmotiv
08-21-2006, 12:31 AM
From a practical viewpoint, I am more annoyed by getting distributed all over the ground by an invisible forest than I am by some generalization of heavy forestation. Had my perfect low leval getaways not been ruined so many times by Maddox Mystery Trees I wouldn't care.

spiffyscimitar
08-21-2006, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by flaysepulcrast:
Yeah, sounds in BOB II are cool, sure, but graphically the game is FUGLY.

I bought it after reading about all these 2.04 wonders you wrote in this thread and almost got depressed after trying it.
.

no way. The weather effects and English countryside are very well depicted. They do smack a bit of digital photographs, and don't hold up too well when flying low, but overall, when you're in the air (like you should be)it's entirely convincing. While IL2 is still beautiful, it sometimes feels simplistic and generalized. Also, the tracers and gunfire "feel" and sound right in BOB (although damage effects are not as well done as IL2)

isooAntti
08-21-2006, 04:34 AM
Too late, too late...Ich alvays told die dicke to patch up ze battle...but now my beautiful luftwaffe ist caput... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

SeaFireLIV
08-21-2006, 04:57 AM
Graphics isn`t as crisp as IL2, but that said, I found no trouble in getting immersed in the flying once airbourne. It all looks good with graphics settings on high. Smoke, flak, tracer are all well done. Smoke is defintely better done than IL2. You don`t get those wispy little things that dot the ground. - You want to fly dogfight in an enormous smoke tower rising up to 10000 feet - I have in BOBwov.

It`s one of the first sims where I`ve actually been flying at 3000 feet and found myself looking UP at smoke from the ground. Just as it should be.

Now to be fair, the negatives. BOBwov doesn`t have as much dynamics in destroying an aircraft. In IL2 I love taking a plane to bits and seeing parts conk away, etc. In wov you don`t get to fly as ONE pilot in ONE Squad unless you iron-rule it yourself.

But that`s pretty good really when you consider that you fly over recognisable parts of HOME (for me anyway) and there`s absolutely nothing like defending England against the onslaught. Well, playing Russian defending Russia is similar, I suppose, except i`m not Russian.

leitmotiv
08-21-2006, 08:50 AM
Putting it simply---lately I find IL-2 ETC a pretty but not terribly bright date (especially with this recent excursion into CRIMSON SKIES) while I find BOB2 the not quite as good looking but infinitely brainier date who knows her stuff (granted she fell down the stairs right after her debut, but, anyway). There are times I am beginning to believe the Maddox B OF BRIT is the old man behind the curtain in THE WIZARD OF OZ.

Lucius_Esox
08-21-2006, 09:08 AM
Hmm, well I got it, and patched it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

All I can say is I forgot how immersive a flight sim can be,,, sorry,, there I have said it.

Not since the days of TAW or my serious playing time of F4 have I been hooked so much by the GAMEPLAY in a flight sim.

Got to have em both http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Grue_
08-21-2006, 09:52 AM
Putting it simply---lately I find IL-2 ETC a pretty but not terribly bright date (especially with this recent excursion into CRIMSON SKIES) while I find BOB2 the not quite as good looking but infinitely brainier date who knows her stuff (granted she fell down the stairs right after her debut, but, anyway). There are times I am beginning to believe the Maddox B OF BRIT is the old man behind the curtain in THE WIZARD OF OZ.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

I'm still trying to complete Zork II: The Wizard of Frobozz. Graphics aren't everything http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hollywood CGI blockbusters with their naff plots and acting don't turn me on either.

Think I'll give BoBII another try (I was put off by original bugs).

slappedsilly
08-21-2006, 09:57 AM
There are times I am beginning to believe the Maddox B OF BRIT is the old man behind the curtain in THE WIZARD OF OZ.

Great marketing isn't it? One of the most interesting threads in here is about someone elses game.

Low_Flyer_MkVb
08-21-2006, 10:32 AM
Uh-oh, I'm getting lock-ups.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

leitmotiv
08-21-2006, 10:46 AM
I've had a few + CTD or two. Next patch due soon supposed to take care of these. Funny, but when I got it in Sep 2005 I didn't have the CTD problems everybody was having, but after the first patch they became so frequent I frisbeed the game disk into the trash bin with steam blowing out of my ears.

I don't think you'll regret your decision, Grue_. Sod Hollywood, for sure.

Agree, slappedsilly, lately all the best threads are about other games---FS9, STRIKE FIGHTERS/WINGS OVER EUROPE/ WINGS OVER VIETNAM, FSX, to name a few. Toto keeps pulling at that curtain and.... I went back to FS9 and STRIKE FIGHTERS thanks to a ton of great info from posters.

96th_Nightshifter
08-21-2006, 11:01 AM
Okay, I got it yesterday and patched it up to 2.04 before even playing it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

For a start there is obvious things that it does better than the IL2 series e.g. sounds - ok everything I like about this game has to do with sounds - engines, guns, airframe stress creaking when you push it too much.
I have though had 4 CTD's (Crashes To Desktop) so far and am getting real peeved off about it.
Ok the game looks nice (not great), sounds superb (no complaints) and the immersion when scrambling to intercept is pretty cool too but in no way is it a contender against the current IL2 Series let alone the next series.
All that being said I do generally like it and enjoy it and I enjoy being able to use my Track IR as it should (apart from constantly having to re-centre it to even come close to shooting straight).

The AI gives you a great dogfight, you actually feel like you achieve something when you get a kill. Damage model is a bit of a joke though - I kid you not (wish I had a screenshot) I got jumped, heard Myself getting riddled with bullets and thought I was ok due to still flying along quite happily when I happen to glance to the left and notice I have about 1/4 of a wing (no joke) this was no graphic glitch as I could see the damage effects but strangely I carried on and could even turn and then level out and fly on again?!?!?!?!
Now I know that a jet with fly by wire actually managed this same thing and made it home but that was a jet kept in the air by a computer so surely this kind of thing is ridiculous in a WWII plane.

leitmotiv
08-21-2006, 11:23 AM
For those who still get thrills watching DAMBUSTERS, Just Flight's Uber-Lancaster set for FS2004 is being released on the 25th. Bombs drop, you can man any turret, you can fly it, inhabit the bombardier's station (fully detailed) and drop the bombs using the sight, navigate from the completely detailed navigator's position, or operate the wireless from the W/OP position, has the Upkeep dams bomb, incendiaries, high explosive, Grand Slam, and Engineer's panel. The only things you can't do are get blown to blazes by a night fighter or blow anything to blazes yourself. But, if you have a copy of ENEMY COAST AHEAD that is nearly falling apart from rereading, this is the goods.

Oh yeah, you also get wartime Scrampton, a Mosquito IV, and, I do believe, each of the dams as it was in May 1943.

Aaron_GT
08-21-2006, 11:56 AM
I might have to dust off my BoB WoV disks and try this new patch. And also that Lancaster....

leitmotiv
08-21-2006, 02:59 PM
Uh, I thought I'd try the air gunner in one of the German bombers---haven't tried this since last year---anybody know how to switch positions in the bombers to the dorsal aft gunner?

Got a freeze up after running and turning off the Sept 15 brawl---a 110 came out of nowhere and KOed the squad leader, me, at the head of 12 tightly packed Hurricanes---brave bistid. My parachute did not open---another bit of uncertainty in this item---plunged 10,000 feet.

spiffyscimitar
08-21-2006, 03:48 PM
you could try asking in the proper place http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.gmxmedia.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=47

MagnumHK
08-21-2006, 07:09 PM
Well this game is about as common as a hen's teeth around here. I have tried about six local computer outlets and NONE of them could get me a copy. This is a first for me. I thought Pacific Fighters was hard to get but that was easy compared to getting BOB Wings of Victory over here.
Noboby's supplier carrys this anymore and they can't get anymore in.

I am from Castlegar, British Columbia, Canada.

I remember a time when IL2 titles filled the shelves at Wally world. My how times have changed.

I seems that Flight Simmers are truly a very small minority and shrinking fast. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Producers have got to find a way to get these products (IL2, Bob WoV etc) back on the store shelves or the only thing left to buy will be the Microsoft products. Please noooooooooo... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

sukebeboy
08-21-2006, 07:20 PM
That guy still running Selkirk Computers out of Trail?

MagnumHK
08-21-2006, 07:52 PM
Yes, he still does. That was one of the outlets I tried to order it from.

However, it was futile. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

han freak solo
08-21-2006, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
Here it is for $26.75 US. 56 left at this place.

http://ign.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=17052572

Still have 54 there. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Since I'm a waitin', this is better than the bone stock - out of the box CFS3, no?

BrotherVoodoo
08-22-2006, 07:51 AM
Try e-bay. I picked mine up for 9 bucks including shipping. Also came with the History Channell BOB DVD.


Originally posted by MagnumHK:
Yes, he still does. That was one of the outlets I tried to order it from.

However, it was futile. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

han freak solo
09-04-2006, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
Since I'm a waitin', this is better than the bone stock - out of the box CFS3, no?

I think so grasshopper.

Lucius_Esox
09-04-2006, 01:46 PM
Err, I havent read all the posts so not sure if you have been answered,,, was it a joke,,, etc http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Once patched to 2.04 it is a lot lot better than out of the box CFS3 imo. It is very much a wargame as well when playing the campaign screen, but don't let that put you off, it's a pretty different experience compared to IL2, don't let that put you off either...

Compared to some of the cr@p I have paid full price for it's well worth it,, wouldn't have been dissapointed if patched to it's present form if I had payed full price.

han freak solo
09-05-2006, 06:48 AM
Yes, yes, yes!

I installed it at home a week ago or so. I needed to bump this thread while I was adjusting the rear view of the Bf-110. There is a post in here about that.