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Kurfurst__
11-01-2007, 08:11 AM
There`s still hope for us poor Grey Wolves - Ubisoft will release a U-boot addon to SH4. Personally I found SH4 utterly boring, and the new graphics just didn`t sell it to me, missing those Atlantic battles too much.

But, there`s new hope on the horizon, appearantly it will be possible to command some of the large ocean-faring Type IXs on Indian Ocean.

http://www.hardwired.hu/img/wg/2/957/Silent_Hunter_4_Wolves_of_the_Pacific_36.jpg

And there`s more...

http://www.hardwired.hu/img/wg/2/957/Silent_Hunter_4_Wolves_of_the_Pacific_39.jpg

http://www.hardwired.hu/img/wg/2/957/Silent_Hunter_4_Wolves_of_the_Pacific_35.jpg

New engine with the good old U-boots to command, that`s what I need. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HuninMunin
11-01-2007, 08:22 AM
Owned.

GerritJ9
11-01-2007, 08:44 AM
The only thing REALLY wrong with SH4 is a lack of playable DUTCH submarines.

Jure_502
11-01-2007, 10:03 AM
Ouo! That's some nice graphic here! Thinking to put my hands on that! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
How is the gameplay? Interesting??

Kurfurst__
11-01-2007, 10:10 AM
Dunno, they just released the news. The original SH4 bored the hell out of me with the Pacific`s extreme distances (Pearl' to Japan at 10 knots... ugh!), lack of convoy battles, lack of interesting gadgets for the boat, lack of the huge selection of torpedoes I got used to etc. I didn`t felt home in US subs either.. In short, it was repetitive, and dull (I am speaking about the USN campain in SH4, I don`t know about the expansion pack).

I hope the Indian ocean would be more interesting.. the real blast would be to re-visit the Atlantic, though.. Scapa would be a blast with that nice new GX engine, all the plants on the seabad etc.

polak5
11-01-2007, 10:41 AM
there is some good news. I pretty much feel the same about silent hunter 4 the graphics are nice and all but it hasent grabbed my attention as much as 3 did.

Bewolf
11-01-2007, 11:14 AM
SHIV mainly has an immerion problem. The setting has lots and lots of potential, the graphics are superb, the patched campaign layers are great and with some modding a lot of stuff can be, and already was, done. But they took a huge step back when it comes to the commanded sub. Lack of stations, upgrades, torpedos, crew...all seriously lacking in comparison to SHIV.

If they do not work this over for that addon, even a U-boat campaign won't bring me back and I'll stay with my good ole SHIII.

Kurfurst__
11-01-2007, 02:37 PM
There will be stations, appearantly :

http://www.hardwired.hu/img/wg/2/957/Silent_Hunter_4_Wolves_of_the_Pacific_37.jpg

I love the radar screen`s graphics. As for upgrades and torps, that`s kind of the curse of the theatre, US subs were relatively standard compared to German ones, fewer torpedo types historically.. I kinda liked the crew interface (SH3 requied far too micromanaging), and especially the fact that there were missions of some variety, instead of BdU`s sterotypic 'communcitations' with my U-boot..

All said, lack of immersion was the greatest weakness of SH4, and being totally alone on your own that of SH3... especially odd in view of Wolfpack tactics.. I`ve never met anoter German sub, never attacked a convoy together, never seen a frigging Axis ship.. recon plane.. Milk Cow.. anything. Just me, The Allies and the Atlantic.

joeap
11-01-2007, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by Bewolf:
SHIV mainly has an immerion problem. The setting has lots and lots of potential, the graphics are superb, the patched campaign layers are great and with some modding a lot of stuff can be, and already was, done. But they took a huge step back when it comes to the commanded sub. Lack of stations, upgrades, torpedos, crew...all seriously lacking in comparison to SHIV.

If they do not work this over for that addon, even a U-boat campaign won't bring me back and I'll stay with my good ole SHIII.

Come on guys, as you said the campaigns have been fixed and modded. But the crew and damage management is WAYYY better in SHIV. Much better, I mean the annoying **** of trying to swap out tired crewmen is gone and watches are automated. If you go to battle stations ALL your crew are on alert and you get a boost in efficiency, but don't forget to stand them down afterward. I find the stations more detailed and logical. Ok you can't click on your 3D crewmen to ask them stuff big whoopie. I certainly am glad for these improvements.

joeap
11-01-2007, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Kurfurst__:

All said, lack of immersion was the greatest weakness of SH4, and being totally alone on your own that of SH3... especially odd in view of Wolfpack tactics.. I`ve never met anoter German sub, never attacked a convoy together, never seen a frigging Axis ship.. recon plane.. Milk Cow.. anything. Just me, The Allies and the Atlantic.

You never tried GWX, they have added wolfpacks of a sort and scripted a lot of historical Axis warship movements. Including in ports, you see the Twins as well as Prinz Eugen in Brest at the right times for example. I mean u-boats would not have seen a lot of ships, especially Axis ones to be honest.

Jure_502
11-01-2007, 03:02 PM
I'm thinking to try it out anyway http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif
Is multiplayer on?

Kurfurst__
11-01-2007, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by joeap:

You never tried GWX, they have added wolfpacks of a sort and scripted a lot of historical Axis warship movements. Including in ports, you see the Twins as well as Prinz Eugen in Brest at the right times for example. I mean u-boats would not have seen a lot of ships, especially Axis ones to be honest.

I tried it actually, it`s a great and impressive mod... but after 3 years of (vanila) career in the Atlantic, it came too late for me.

Does it have other subs in convoy battles etc? I only tried the Med briefly.

ElAurens
11-01-2007, 04:41 PM
Whiskey.

Tango.

Foxtrot.

I'm sorry but for those of us who like the Pacific submarine conflict this is terrible news.

UBI once again proving they are totally clueless about the war against Japan. Instead of properly finishing SH4 by giving us many missing ship types, aircraft types, and the chance to play as an IJN submariner, we get the battle of the Atlantic again. And just like here we get a fantasy addition, the Mk XVIII, 2 of which were built, none of which ever put to sea. Instead of the Narwhal and Tench classes, or IJN boats, which would really be welcomed by us Pacific submariners.

I don't get it.

HuninMunin
11-01-2007, 04:51 PM
Ubi wants to get paid.
XVIIIs make the dime roll.

joeap
11-01-2007, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by Kurfurst__:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by joeap:

You never tried GWX, they have added wolfpacks of a sort and scripted a lot of historical Axis warship movements. Including in ports, you see the Twins as well as Prinz Eugen in Brest at the right times for example. I mean u-boats would not have seen a lot of ships, especially Axis ones to be honest.

I tried it actually, it`s a great and impressive mod... but after 3 years of (vanila) career in the Atlantic, it came too late for me.

Does it have other subs in convoy battles etc? I only tried the Med briefly. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It does but as SH3 strangely didn't have true AI subs like they did in SH2 they come in on the surface and use their deck guns. Not everywhere, and of course they don't last but they can distract the escorts.

joeap
11-01-2007, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:


I don't get it.

Well, yes, it sucks not getting missing US boats. Good point is eventually a multinational Silent Hunter, choosing between Atlantic or Pacific and getting some of the other navies (RN, Dutch, IJN, maybe Soviet).

Haigotron
11-01-2007, 09:20 PM
akh, the reason why I went back to Sh3 with the Grey Wolves Pack was due to the buggy version of SH4. How far along is it with the patches and the bugs?

leitmotiv
11-01-2007, 10:03 PM
If there was a new sim devoted to sinking submarines, I would be interested.

Wepps
11-01-2007, 10:49 PM
Junk.

SeaFireLIV
11-02-2007, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
Whiskey.

Tango.

Foxtrot.

I'm sorry but for those of us who like the Pacific submarine conflict this is terrible news.

UBI once again proving they are totally clueless about the war against Japan. Instead of properly finishing SH4 by giving us many missing ship types, aircraft types, and the chance to play as an IJN submariner, we get the battle of the Atlantic again. And just like here we get a fantasy addition, the Mk XVIII, 2 of which were built, none of which ever put to sea. Instead of the Narwhal and Tench classes, or IJN boats, which would really be welcomed by us Pacific submariners.

I don't get it.

Looking at the SH4 site and the strange choice of stuff for the add-on... (Atlantic stuff for a pacific game, especially that `super` sub?), I get a feeling that heavy Axis-sided influence happened here. As i`ve noticed before, if one side yells at the devs enough, they can actually make them do changes to a game, even if it more serves a minority than the silent majority.

I really like SH4 and can`t play SH3, for me sinking Axis shipping is far more enjoyable than sinking brit or US shipping...

joeap
11-02-2007, 02:43 AM
Originally posted by Wepps:
Junk.

Hardly anymore.

Kurfurst__
11-02-2007, 03:34 AM
Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:

Looking at the SH4 site and the strange choice of stuff for the add-on... (Atlantic stuff for a pacific game, especially that `super` sub?), I get a feeling that heavy Axis-sided influence happened here. As i`ve noticed before, if one side yells at the devs enough, they can actually make them do changes to a game, even if it more serves a minority than the silent majority.

I really like SH4 and can`t play SH3, for me sinking Axis shipping is far more enjoyable than sinking brit or US shipping...

Bullocks... did it ever crossed the soapbox on your neck that maybe, just maybe the reason to return to U-boots is probably that :

- Gameplay-wise, the highly custumizable U-boots and U-boot campaigns have much more FUN elements
- Development-wise, U-boots are already modelled, and with little work they can be imported/upgraded from SH3, developed by the same company
- 'Super-subs' are there because they`re fun, unique and already modelled for SH3

Would it be interesting to command Japanese or British or much neglected ITALIAN subs? Yup, probably about for about 2-3 hours. I`d certainly love it, but let`s face it, the there are two sub campaigns in WW2 that have the fun/interesting elements required, the USN on Pacific (turned out to be a bore for many of us for reasons already explained), and the BdU`s wolf packs on the Atlantic.

sakai2005
11-02-2007, 04:15 AM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
If there was a new sim devoted to sinking submarines, I would be interested.

silenthunter 2 hooked up with destroyer command for multi player was the most intense gameplay in multi player that ive ever played bar none.

under attack by destoyers with the speakers turned way up was nerve wracking realy made it like you were there with humans not ai in command of the destroyers.same can be said for playing a dc captain guarding the convoy and finaly getting a fix on a sub.cat and mouse in the exstreme.to bad i cant get to run on this new machine not sure why? service pack 1 i think screwed it up.

Wepps
11-02-2007, 04:59 AM
Originally posted by joeap:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wepps:
Junk.

Hardly anymore. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was talking about the Junk in the background.

ElAurens
11-02-2007, 05:34 AM
Well I see the blue fanboi Kurfurst carries his burden everywhere.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I, and a lot more of us, find the Pacific very interesting thank you very much. Sorry if your attention span is so short that you need those short distance boats and high target density to have "fun".

I for one am having a very good time in the Pacific, as hobbled as it is by developers that are cluless about anything but the war in Europe.

Kurfurst__
11-02-2007, 05:47 AM
Well if you`re having fun already, and the contents of this thread are of obviously no interest to you either, you may as well as leave us then, yes..?

Platypus_1.JaVA
11-02-2007, 12:20 PM
Well, did they sort out all of the bugs yet?