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The_Sphinx
02-08-2007, 02:55 PM
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2831/assassinscreed20060921111158838tn0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is Alamut, the strategic nearly impregnable stronghold where Hasan trained his assassins.
Set on a 600-foot cliff in the remote Alamut River valley, Castle Alamut could only be reached by almost perpendicular steps hacked out of rock.

Well, on to my point: Watching this image carefully shows at least 4 people jumping or getting thrown off the wall.

I have no clue what is going on here. It doesn't seem like a battle, since the guarding Assassin at the entrance is still standing there rather relaxed e.g. not into "battle mode".
Another assassin (supposedly Altaļr) climbs the stairway to the entrance, also without weapons drawn - another indication there's no battle waging inside the fortress.

Discuss!!


(And please, let's keep this one ontopic shall we? There are more than enough "fun threads" on the boards at the moment)

WildDog9
02-08-2007, 03:20 PM
Traitors? Witnesses? Actually, nevermind, they don't care about witnesses. Maybe..ah who knows. Ballocks.

And on a side note, barely any of that is left today. Most destroyed during the ages, and also because of a recent earthquake during 2004.

princeofyo
02-08-2007, 03:41 PM
I don't think the Assassin's base will be Alamut in this game. If you look on a map you'll see that Alamut is very very far away from the Holy Land.

However there is another Assassin base just a little north of the Holy Land, called Masyaf, which, during Altair's time was run by the old man of the mountian, Sinan.

If you read the Game Informer magazine a few months ago, you would have read that Sinan is the Assassin Leader.

So all the facts point straight to Masyaf, not Alamut, as the Assassin base in this game.

Oh and the people that are jumping could be from a legend that one day, a crusader, (Richard maybe? It is at least a powerful Crusader) and the Assassin Leader were in the assassin base. The Assassin leader said that his followers were more loyal to him, then any Crusader was to his king. The Assassin leader told some of his followers to jump off the base and they did.

chewie1890
02-08-2007, 04:52 PM
There not very discreet...

RetiredHatch
02-08-2007, 06:36 PM
That person climbing up the stairs looks kinda weird...

llhenry
02-09-2007, 12:29 AM
Adnocana, i love you man, you give us all the info so we don't have to go searching for new assassins creed stuff.Before i was all like "now i gotta go lookin on some crappy site for three hours" not any more. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif Now get to work http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

noobfun
02-09-2007, 04:57 AM
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Originally posted by Adnocana:

This is Alamut, *cough* Masyaf 1 of the 3 main main nizari fortresses in syria, go watch the dev diary Jade says you start from Masyaf


Originally posted by Adnocana: the strategic nearly impregnable stronghold where Hasan trained his assassins. *cough*

Hassan-i-sabbah 1090-1124
Kiya Bozorg-Ummid 1124-1138
Muhammed I 1138-1162
Hasan II 1162-1166
Muhammad II 1166-1210

which hasan are we talking about? there was an hassan III that took over in 1210. but were from the syrian nizari so Rashid al-din sinan is the guy of importance, considered to be the voice of god equal to the immam


Originally posted by Princeofyo: Oh and the people that are jumping could be from a legend that one day, a crusader, (Richard maybe? It is at least a powerful Crusader) and the Assassin Leader were in the assassin base. The Assassin leader said that his followers were more loyal to him, then any Crusader was to his king. The Assassin leader told some of his followers to jump off the base and they did..

Count Henry of Champagne visited the Assassins in 1194, and is supposed to have witnessed a remarkable display of loyalty on behalf of the followers of the "Old Man of the Mountain". (This is another misconception, based on a literal translation of "sheikh", which should have been rendered as "master".)

While walking together in the castle one day, Henry and the Assassin chief began to talk of obedience. Some youths in white were sitting on top of a high tower. "I will show you what obedience means", the chief said; he gave a sign, and immediately two of the youths leapt from the tower and were dashed to pieces at the foot of the rock. - quoted from "the assassins of alamut"- Anthony cambell

you could also have looked

here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/7421023135)

or here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/9591023135)

quicksilver_502
02-11-2007, 08:34 AM
i think there training by leaping off the uilding.

The_Sphinx
02-11-2007, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by quicksilver_502:
i think there training by leaping off the uilding.

Good point. Every morning before I go to school I do some push-ups, crunches and finally I leap out of the window of my two-storey high room and magically land on the sidewalk without a scratch.

noobfun
02-11-2007, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by Adnocana:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by quicksilver_502:
i think there training by leaping off the uilding.

Good point. Every morning before I go to school I do some push-ups, crunches and finally I leap out of the window of my two-storey high room and magically land on the sidewalk without a scratch. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

dont be silly its a well known fact they invented bungee jumping and used it as a special technique to suprise the enemy

The_Sphinx
02-11-2007, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by noobfun:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Adnocana:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by quicksilver_502:
i think there training by leaping off the uilding.

Good point. Every morning before I go to school I do some push-ups, crunches and finally I leap out of the window of my two-storey high room and magically land on the sidewalk without a scratch. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

dont be silly its a well known fact they invented bungee jumping and used it as a special technique to suprise the enemy </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess the image shows the so-called "invisible rope technique"..

noobfun
02-11-2007, 08:57 AM
i said they invented bungee jumping, i didnt say anything about inventing bungee cord

Lhorkan
02-11-2007, 09:08 AM
Those are birds that got arrows sticking out of them, sillies.

The_Sphinx
02-11-2007, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by Lhorkan:
Those are birds that got arrows sticking out of them, sillies.

Well, that solves that! Thanks man.

How's the open beta working out for you? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Lhorkan
02-11-2007, 09:15 AM
The 20 gig download is nearly finished. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Still, we shouldn't go off topic too much. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

The_Sphinx
02-11-2007, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by Lhorkan:
The 20 gig download is nearly finished. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Still, we shouldn't go off topic too much. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

It's my own thread, I can do whatever I please in here. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


Plus my question is basicly answered, although there's room for discussion!

noobfun
02-11-2007, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Lhorkan:
Those are birds that got arrows sticking out of them, sillies.

the thing falling down above the gate way deffinatley has arms legs and a head maybe its keith harris and some sod shot down orvil

JN006
02-12-2007, 08:52 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

Come on!! BIRDS!?
Pouahahah!

Lhorkan
02-13-2007, 11:43 AM
Well if it aren't birds, I'm sure you can indulge us in the secret of people falling down the keep?

WildDog9
02-13-2007, 12:53 PM
On a side note, 20 gigs is a huge size for a BETA...Most games I play even with expansions isn't usually 20 gigs..

The_Sphinx
02-13-2007, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by WildDog9:
On a side note, 20 gigs is a huge size for a BETA...Most games I play even with expansions isn't usually 20 gigs..

Exactly.

Another reason his statement = ****. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Lhorkan
02-13-2007, 11:58 PM
You seem to forget that the Vanguard beta is 10 gigs. And since we all know AC will be at least twice as good... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

The_Sphinx
02-14-2007, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by Lhorkan:
You seem to forget that the Vanguard beta is 10 gigs. And since we all know AC will be at least twice as good... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Keep your dignity man, the "I has a BETA!1!"-show has gone far enough don't you agree?

Or put your money where your mouth is and post a screenshot. I dare, no I double dare you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Lhorkan
02-14-2007, 08:51 AM
I proudly present you the first AC PC screenie:

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4153/acbeta000tn7.th.png (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=acbeta000tn7.png)

Don't worry about the low-res textures, I have a rather crappy PC. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

The_Sphinx
02-14-2007, 10:37 AM
Well well, that's class A stuff you got there.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

kingjmes
02-14-2007, 01:37 PM
my guess is that those are guys that failed some assasin test and are paying with their lives. or they were used as practice dummies for the assassins,

Mana_SG
02-14-2007, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Lhorkan:
I proudly present you the first AC PC screenie:

http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=acbeta000tn7.p.../acbeta000tn7.th.png (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=acbeta000tn7.png%5D%5BIMG%5Dhttp://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4153/acbeta000tn7.th.png)

Don't worry about the low-res textures, I have a rather crappy PC. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
What is it with you and spreading false information? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

WildDog9
02-14-2007, 04:14 PM
Where are the people, crowds, guards, objects, parour thingers to grab onto, anything? You had a good mind to remove the left index finger, but it still is complete bull. Show us a picture with crowds and guards and objects and I'll believe you. Maybe even up ontop of a building? Looking down of course.

The_Sphinx
02-14-2007, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by WildDog9:
Where are the people, crowds, guards, objects, parour thingers to grab onto, anything? You had a good mind to remove the left index finger, but it still is complete bull. Show us a picture with crowds and guards and objects and I'll believe you. Maybe even up ontop of a building? Looking down of course.

You're not taking him serious, are you..? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

WildDog9
02-14-2007, 06:10 PM
I don't judge a book by its cover..Let's see where he takes us next, then maybe I can make a conclusion.

PS: Listen to Mozart, Lacrimosa

acsociety
02-14-2007, 08:25 PM
The Assassins, the secret society in which this game is based on, were a group of paradise seeking men. The members of this clan were initiated and trained for one reason and one reason only to serve the commands of their masters. There are historical acounts, according to a book i have read, of members who stood on cliffs or towers and when their master gave them the signal they threw themselves to their death. The most notorious leader of 'The Assassins was a man by the name of Hasan ( who is mentioned in the developer's diaries on the official website). This leader Hasan, was placed under the tutorship of a man by the name of Imam Muwafiq, who chose to instruct only the most promising students. This Muwafiq man was the tutor of a famous poet and astronomer and a Prime Minister. Anyway, through this mans teachings, Hasan learned techniques of persuasion and manipulation. He used this to gain power and become the leader of 'The Assassins'. When Hasan was the leader he built a fortress which he called the Alamut, which parts of still remain today, and in this fortress created a secret garden consisting of every fruit imaginable. Hasan was said to have drugged members, who were under his power, with hashish and other narcotics and bring them to this garden telling them this is where they would go if they died. It was also said Hasan took a man put him in a pit and filled the pit allowing the mans head to stick out. He then put a hole in a plate cut it in half and put it around the man's head. He also sprinkled a red substance around the man's head. Hasan then drugged members and brand them to this alive man who was forced to lie and say he has died and he has been to the paradise. When Hasan was done with this man he cut his head off because the man was a threat. This events were the reason members became unafraid of death and were so voluntary to commands which required them fall to their death. Also, when an Assassin member killed an important person, or an enemy of the master,( there would obviously be guards around ) they would just surrender to the guards because they were not afraid of death.
When Hasan was the leader, which was during the time this game is set he commanded the members of the assassins to kill important and key people involved in the Third Crusade.
Another interesting fact is that the ninthe and final step of the initiation was summed up with their slogan: Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted ( Also mention in the Official website.).



----------All information acquired from a book i have read-------------------------------------



Respond at will http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

acsociety
02-14-2007, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by Lhorkan:
I proudly present you the first AC PC screenie:

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4153/acbeta000tn7.th.png (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=acbeta000tn7.png)

Don't worry about the low-res textures, I have a rather crappy PC. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif



What is happening here is explained in my post just above. (the part where i talk about the man in the pit).

zgubilici
02-14-2007, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by Lhorkan:
I proudly present you the first AC PC screenie:

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4153/acbeta000tn7.th.png (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=acbeta000tn7.png)

Don't worry about the low-res textures, I have a rather crappy PC. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

UbiRazz locked the first thread where you mentioned this for a reason and you already received several requests to stop these kind of posts - the treshold of a good charade has long been surpassed by now....spreading false information and insisting on it is something that you agreed not to do when you complied to the forum conduct rules.
Please stop with this - thanks.

JN006
02-14-2007, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by Lhorkan:
Well if it aren't birds, I'm sure you can indulge us in the secret of people falling down the keep?

Assassin's leader asked their soldier to jump of roof to prove their complete trust and faith into him, promising they would go to their paradise for that.

Or maybe they're human-birds?!?

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

EDIT: Well, I didn't saw acsociety's response.
Then... here goes the http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

JN006
02-14-2007, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by Lhorkan:
I proudly present you the first AC PC screenie:

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4153/acbeta000tn7.th.png (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=acbeta000tn7.png)

Don't worry about the low-res textures, I have a rather crappy PC. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Well... if that weight 20 gig... you got screwed!

And for everyone who were asking for the computer spec to run AC...: According to this, I'd say that you can run it with a commodore 64!!!

Pfffff! Stay tuned guys... I'm sure he'll have an explanation!

P.S. I made the wall behind him! NOTTTTT! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

Lhorkan
02-15-2007, 12:08 AM
Zgu, how much more http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif 's do I have to place to make it clear I'm not serious? And Adno double dared me, it's all his fault. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

WildDog9
02-15-2007, 03:54 AM
Well, I didn't realize a smiley icon could tell whether someone was serious or not. Especially one like that.

Lhorkan
02-15-2007, 08:50 AM
Of course it does. Especially in that quantity, after a clearly unserious post. ._.

FableB
02-15-2007, 09:24 AM
Why would those who want to prove their loyalty to their master jump from different positions?

And they are too small for humans, the castle is high and the perspective is far, but not THAT far...

acsociety
02-15-2007, 04:30 PM
The members are not trying to show loyalty because how would they know if they were being loyal when they are dead in a couple of seconds. The reason they are jumping from high places is because they want to die. The reason they aren't afraid of death is because their master Hasan showed them this garden, which was beautiful, ( Hasan showed them while they were drugged so he could say it was a dream of paradise ) and told them it was Paradise and that is where they would go when they died.

JN006
02-15-2007, 08:51 PM
Come on Fable, don't tell me these look like birds?! I see human shapes there. Also,it's a drawing, so it's possible that the perspective is not correct, but if you compare the size of these shapes with the person waiting at the front door... To me, they're quiet similar... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8090/comeonpl4.th.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=comeonpl4.jpg)

zgubilici
02-15-2007, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by Lhorkan:
Zgu, how much more http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif 's do I have to place to make it clear I'm not serious? And Adno double dared me, it's all his fault. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
That is not the point Lhorkan - of course we know you are not serious, otherwise the requests made for you to stop would have been a lot different than the ones you saw.

As I said, every good joke can be stretched only so far and you have got repeated requests from us to stop with this. Why? Because not every member that is hyped about the game realizes that you are only messing around. At this point in the life of the forums, new members excited about this game sign up for the forums all the time - whereas for a forum regular, an http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif at the end of your statement gives a clear message about the scope of it, for a newcomer it doesn't convey the same thing at all.

noobfun
02-16-2007, 05:06 AM
Originally posted by acsociety:
The members are not trying to show loyalty because how would they know if they were being loyal when they are dead in a couple of seconds. The reason they are jumping from high places is because they want to die. The reason they aren't afraid of death is because their master Hasan showed them this garden, which was beautiful, ( Hasan showed them while they were drugged so he could say it was a dream of paradise ) and told them it was Paradise and that is where they would go when they died.

ok ok stop reading marco polo its all lies and rumour that he was told 50 years after the fall of the nizari state, these lie and rumours were told to him not by the descendants of the nizari they were moved from the land, but by people that had been moved in to the area and followed the more main stream islamic groups that feared and dispised the nizari and had done for 600 years.

The garden DIDNT exist, the altitude the nizari fortresses are at make it an impossability for such lush vegetation

go read a book ill even help with the big words (http://www.acampbell.ukfsn.org/assassins/index.html)

and btw suicide didnt get you in to heaven, its still a big NO NO, dying while carrying out or while trying to escape after a mission got you in to heaven.

your mixing up story telling with historic fact, Sinan did command 2 men to jump from a tower to show how loyal his men were to him while discussing loyalty with a crusader (cant be bothered to look up his name atm ^_^, its been discussed else where) but since sinan was the a direct link to the Imam then its not suicide its what god commanded them to do


Originally posted by acsociety: Another interesting fact is that the ninthe and final step of the initiation was summed up with their slogan: Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted ( Also mention in the Official website.).

this has nothing to do with initation, this is about religeous belief. by the time the game is set the nizari had gone through "the reserection" they believed they had moved on to the next step of religeous evolution they were close to god and all things that opposed god (anyone who wasnt Nizari) was mearly an illusion a glimpse of the past that had been, "nothing is real(but us), everything is allowed(because they are not real)"

you keep putting on the bottom of your posts " i have read a book" first congratulations on such a big achievment -_- which book?

when was it first published or how old are the sources it quotes (chances are the book is pre 1950's or all the sources were european historians from the middle ages such as marco polo who took the wild stories and rumours because they were more fun then the reality)

Altair-Kanzen
02-16-2007, 12:12 PM
Coo'. Like it.

Altair-Kanzen
02-16-2007, 12:32 PM
Adnocana where you get your picture from? Your signature picture, the one without your name on it, if you rememebr, contact me please, thanks.

Altair-Kanzen
02-16-2007, 12:51 PM
http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi74.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2 Fi253%2FARavensFate%2FVideo%2520Games%2FAC-Altair.jpg&searchTerm=Assassins%20Creed

WildDog9
02-16-2007, 01:46 PM
I am no mod, but please, use the edit button. Triple post..

mattrdsx
02-16-2007, 07:22 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5701064934

one guy made a post on here that might answer this question
i think its the 2nd to last post
its actually pretty interesting

FableB
02-16-2007, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by JN006:
Come on Fable, don't tell me these look like birds?! I see human shapes there. Also,it's a drawing, so it's possible that the perspective is not correct, but if you compare the size of these shapes with the person waiting at the front door... To me, they're quiet similar... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8090/comeonpl4.th.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=comeonpl4.jpg)

You are right, they are humans.

Lhorkan
02-17-2007, 12:37 AM
Well of course they are. We're waiting for an explanation, JN. <_<

noobfun
02-17-2007, 04:58 AM
Originally posted by mattrdsx:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5701064934

one guy made a post on here that might answer this question
i think its the 2nd to last post
its actually pretty interesting

you mean acsociety's other cut and paste that he is spreading everywhere like herpies?

yes its interesting because its a story.

just like the stories of ninja that could turn invisible, walk through wall's, run across water

what he is posting were the superstitious rumours made by the people who feared them

im starting to think acsociety is a master of information warfare on a hate campaign against the nizari or just an idiot with out a clue

WildDog9
02-17-2007, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by noobfun:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mattrdsx:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5701064934

one guy made a post on here that might answer this question
i think its the 2nd to last post
its actually pretty interesting

you mean acsociety's other cut and paste that he is spreading everywhere like herpies?

yes its interesting because its a story.

just like the stories of ninja that could turn invisible, walk through wall's, run across water

what he is posting were the superstitious rumours made by the people who feared them

im starting to think acsociety is a master of information warfare on a hate campaign against the nizari or just an idiot with out a clue </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
About time someone said it. Herpes*

Hassan-Sabbah
03-23-2007, 05:36 AM
Originally posted by noobfun:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mattrdsx:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5701064934

one guy made a post on here that might answer this question
i think its the 2nd to last post
its actually pretty interesting

you mean acsociety's other cut and paste that he is spreading everywhere like herpies?

yes its interesting because its a story.

just like the stories of ninja that could turn invisible, walk through wall's, run across water

what he is posting were the superstitious rumours made by the people who feared them

im starting to think acsociety is a master of information warfare on a hate campaign against the nizari or just an idiot with out a clue </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Greets Mr. Fun,

Though I agree with you on the "superstitious rumours" the Nizari Isma'il Shi' ("Assassins") were just as much to blame for the reputation as Marco Polo was (as, to a much greater degree, the Ninpo families of Japan were theirs).

"Medieval Shock and Awe" if you will... }http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

They existed in a VERY hostile environment with enemies on all sides (Sunni Muslims, European Crusaders (later on) Mongols, etc., etc.). To present a veneer of strength and mysticism (Sinan was credited with a host of powers ranging from mind reading, healing and the "Evil eye") would make an excellent deterrent from attack. Much like some animals "Puff up" when on the defensive.

I can see by your (noobfun) previous posts that you have a great understanding on the history of the Assassins, so I am sure none of what I type is "new" to you.

I think as of late, and more likely starting when the Aga Khans of India were "mainstreaming" their sect (maybe even further back to the Mongol Hueglu invasions), there seems to be an "apologia for the Assassins." The Khans even go as far as to deny the existence of the Fid'ais all together.

(I know, that word "Fid'ai" has meaning outside Nizari/Assassin context, but was most often used by westerners in memoirs and essays as the actual "agents" and I use it in that context).

Farhad Daftary in his otherwise EXCELLENT book "The Assassin Legends" is a prime example of this. James Wasserman in his "The Templars and the Assassins: the Militia of Heaven" falls prey to this to some extent as well, but his is more of "wrapping the Nizari "mysteries" to fit HIS theories.

And in that is really the problem. We DO NOT KNOW exactly what those buggers were up to! That is probably the main reason the "assassin myths" have endured as long as they have.

But to state (and I am not saying YOU are, but many do) that the Nizari were totally blameless, and that the majority of the legends concerning them were naught but a "smear campaign" is probably far from the mark. It is probably somewhere in between.

And of course...all of this is just my humble opinion. }http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Be well all!

noobfun
03-23-2007, 06:31 AM
i agree with you theres a lot we dont and will never know about, and yes the stories of sinan were a wonderful tool to gain the syrian nizari's loyalty as well as spread fear in the enemy.

its the lack of sense in the post's that drives me crazy

hassan was the most ruthless
hassan indoctrinated all the assassins
hassan had a magic garden

for that to be true hassan lived for 400 years, the altitude alamut sits at was a 1000 meters lower then present day(suprising no one mentioned it suddenly turning from a hill to a mountain) and syria had no fida because they were all at alamut getting stonned


When Hasan was the leader, which was during the time this game is set he commanded the members of the assassins to kill important and key people involved in the Third Crusade.


see what i mean, 1191 at alamut was Mohamed II, the game is based around the syrian sect that appears to have had a great deal of autonomy who was ruled by Sinan

it also ignore's main stream ishma'ili use of assassination for hundreds of years before it

im sure he's also the one that was posting the sect still lives today they just changed thier name to al-queda

which shows he's got no understanding of that either

and your deffinatley right its very very difficult to call them blameless in the whole thing

just the open and public style of assassination they prefered, and the lack of personal care if they are killed or captured after the fact

without going in to the use of sleeper agents in house holds

they generated the fear. the fearful generated the myths(well some of them). at the time in history crusaders came in to contact with them, saracens wernt thought to highly of any way, so a bunch of saracens that all the other saracens are afraid of .... no suprise they got a hammering by european chroniclers

Hassan-Sabbah
03-23-2007, 07:18 AM
"no suprise they got a hammering by european chroniclers"

But, then again...the Europeans "hammered" anything that was not of them. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

As far as the posts go, you can see they are just re-gurgation copy and pastes. I agree, one should do a little research for themselves before they go putting out information. And I noticed the "Hassan/Sinan" confusion in his posts as well. Heh

Political assassination was going on LOOONG before the Ismail'i (and long before the Nizari in particular). The Prophet (Muhammud P.B.U.H.) was the target of several assassination attempts himself (if we are looking at in an Islamic context...which probably is not fair, take a look at Ceasar/Romans!).

(Off this topic, was not Alamut refered to as the "Eagles nest" at times? Al-Tair (Bird/Eagle)? Hmmm...heh)

But, again...we are in agreement. To some degree the Nizari got a bad rap (and still do by the ignorant). I am in no way implying that they were "evil" or "bloodthirsty" (again, not anymore so than any other minority that is in a struggle for their survival).

And, yes THERE IS NO Al-Qaeda/Assassin connection! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif You, know...I actually have an aquaintence who told me they will not play this game as the main character is a "Muslim" and is running around killing Christians? BUT....said they would play it if it were reversed?

You would think in this day and age people could evolve above such things. Or at least, be able to draw a line between reality and fantasy...

Be well!

[Edit] Before someone goes accusing me of having an "Islamic" bias...I am not a Muslim....nor am I a Chatholic/Christian...or a Jew...or even a Budhist (I DID major in Comparative Religions in college). I try to look at information as best as I can understand it and base inferences from there. So please, no need to flame me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Altair_92
08-03-2007, 11:38 AM
Yeah. I was wondeering about that. I was about to post a topic on it, but I used the search bar since I remembered. Here's that pic, but the peeps are circled. Perhaps they failed missions and are being forced to jump or were pushed off.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h146/INUYASHA92_/Assassins%20Creed/assassins-creed--20060921111158838.jpg

dragfindel
08-03-2007, 12:11 PM
reminds me of that fortress in oblivion cloudrunner temple or something it'called

chikkenstorm
08-03-2007, 12:41 PM
I think they're practising 'Leap of Faith' http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But you don't see the hay carts http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

bosnianguy
08-03-2007, 12:45 PM
Does anybody know what all the spiderweb looking stuff is?

bobbysingh99
08-03-2007, 12:46 PM
one if them looks like hes flailing his arms, while another looks to just be diving - hmm very confusing

Ammario
08-03-2007, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by bosnianguy:
Does anybody know what all the spiderweb looking stuff is?

Since it's on the top of a mountain it could be snow. I snows in the Holy Land for a day or two during the winter so at the peak of many mountains even during the summer it's not unusual to find snow.


Originally posted by bobbysingh99:
one if them looks like hes flailing his arms, while another looks to just be diving - hmm very confusing

I'm trying to keep in mind that this is concept art. We even saw a trailer with a crossbow but that doesn't seem to be part of the game so stuff that is in concept art don't always end up being part of the game or are just there to brainstorm ideas.

personally if it is in the game they might be assassin's who failed their missions more than once and weren't given a second chance like Altair.

x_101_
08-03-2007, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by chikkenstorm:
I think they're practising 'Leap of Faith' http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But you don't see the hay carts http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif
Thats more or less exactly what i was going to say its the first thing i thought when i looked at it, and did anyone else realize how Altairs' is looking up at them kinda like "NOOOOOOOO".

Altair_92
08-03-2007, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by x_101_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by chikkenstorm:
I think they're practising 'Leap of Faith' http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But you don't see the hay carts http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif
Thats more or less exactly what i was going to say its the first thing i thought when i looked at it, and did anyone else realize how Altairs' is looking up at them kinda like "NOOOOOOOO". </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah. I also thought that they failed a lot. Heck if I kept failing Id run away. lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

noobfun
08-04-2007, 03:14 AM
ok who's he evil necromancer?

because someone keeps reserecting long dead threads

the_assassin_07
08-04-2007, 07:40 AM
Those are birds that got arrows sticking out of them, sillies.
Yeah 'cos birds have a head and legs and arms
and are 4 foot tall. I knew that.
And the people falling off could be teenagers tombstoning http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif.

Emericanized
08-04-2007, 08:51 AM
===The Following post is a mock scenario/conspiracy. It has been made in jest and not as an affront to the game or fans. I'm just as excited as you are http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif===

Hey folks, I just thought I'd settle this for you, hopefully clear up any possible misconceptions /confusions with this subject.

The hashashin were in fact humahawks, that is to say human-hawk hybrids.... thats right, bred to be the best. The intelligence of the human, as well as the predatory nature of the hawk.
This explains the confusing nature of the picture....
The hawk in the trailer is actually Altair's mother.

Well, I hope that clears everything up!

the_assassin_07
08-04-2007, 09:04 AM
The hawk in the trailer is actually Altair's mother.
No it's actually your stupidness.
And no you can't fly. It's just the symbol of Altair.

Boromir323
08-04-2007, 10:34 AM
There were reports of Hashashin warriors leaping to their death at the command of their leader to show their loyalty.

Altair_92
08-04-2007, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by Boromir323:
There were reports of Hashashin warriors leaping to their death at the command of their leader to show their loyalty.

I could be loyal and all, but never would I do that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Noob- Why the h3ll do you care? You haven't contributed anything to this so who cares. Yes, I brought it back, but it seems that most of these people have never seen it. I really hate people like you.

the_assassin_07
08-04-2007, 10:49 AM
I could be loyal and all, but never would I do that.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

Noob- Why the h3ll do you care? You haven't contributed anything to this so who cares. Yes, I brought it back, but it seems that most of these people have never seen it. I really hate people like you.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

Altair_92
08-04-2007, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by the_assassin_07:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I could be loyal and all, but never would I do that.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

Noob- Why the h3ll do you care? You haven't contributed anything to this so who cares. Yes, I brought it back, but it seems that most of these people have never seen it. I really hate people like you.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Emericanized
08-04-2007, 11:37 AM
Well, I'd just like to point out for clarification that the prior post was just a friendly joke. (including the altair mother comment) No need to reply defensively or with hate posts. Perhaps you didn't find it funny, that is ok.. I can understand that, but perhaps you should be a little more civil, rather than turning a friendly post into a personal issue. I'll edit it to make sure any future readers are aware of the fact it was in jest.
Though Altair I'm curious to know what you mean by "People like me". I wasn't aware that I was fitting into a certain demographic by making a joke on the internet.

I won't respond to any further fecal flinging though, as that is a waste of thread space! I just wanted to make that clear!
Cool looking picture by the way though I did forget to mention.

Oh and.... my..stupid....ness? If you were referring to my stupidity well then I might have to agree! I'm not the brightest star on the best of days! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Hope I haven't offended anyone. Take care!
Sorry it took so long to reply, I am at work and am unable to sign in and post through the proxy!

noobfun
08-04-2007, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Altair_92:

Noob- Why the h3ll do you care? You haven't contributed anything to this so who cares. Yes, I brought it back, but it seems that most of these people have never seen it. I really hate people like you.

guess you were to busy being your usual spam monkey self and spouting junk all over a perfectly good thread to read page 1 or 2 then

why do i care .... because there are enough threads around here you and the_assassin_07 have hijacked to spout mindless spammage about nothing to do with the thread while you follow each other around saying how wonderful the drivel is

something you accuse people of a lot ..... hijacking and going offtopic... so far i dont think ive seen you stay on topic

but hey your right why should i have a sensible opinion when i can dribble leaky brain material all over a forum and spout copyright material as if it was my own ..... -_-

how reatrded do you have to be to
A)quote your own post
B)put up i approve smileys to it

-_-.....

no wonder you hate ppl like me, it must be the long words, making sense and speaking english that grates your nerves

Altair_92
08-04-2007, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by noobfun:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Altair_92:

Noob- Why the h3ll do you care? You haven't contributed anything to this so who cares. Yes, I brought it back, but it seems that most of these people have never seen it. I really hate people like you.

guess you were to busy being your usual spam monkey self to read page 1 or 2 then

why do i care .... becasue there are enough threads around here you and the_assassin_07 have hijacked to spout of mindless spammage about nothing to do with the thread

something you accuse people of a lot .....

but hey your right why should i have a sensible opinion when i can dribble my leaky brain all over a forum and spout copyright material as if it was my own ..... -_- </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Me and 07 post sensible things. Everyone spams now and then. And who cares. What are you going to do. Nothing. It's not big deal. If you have a problem with this topic then by all means, don't read it. It's just a forum dude. The thread hasnt been locked, therefor it's open for discussion.


I'm not going to waste time reading what you have to say about me and my friends so by all means go right on ahead and talk about us but I wont care. I highly doubt that assassin will care either or anyone else in ths forum for a matter. I you dont't like what we say then too bad. I find it funny.

Point is, if you think that it's old and has been discussed enough then don't read it. I however would like to.

Nice attempt at trying to be rude and hurtful though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

If you don't like this forum then go to inviosnfree.com and make your own.
Now back on topic....

noobfun
08-04-2007, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by Altair_92:

Me and 07 post sensible things. Everyone spams now and then. And who cares. What are you going to do. Nothing. It's not big deal. If you have a problem with this topic then by all means, don't read it. It's just a forum dude. The thread hasnt been locked, therefor it's open for discussion.


I'm not going to waste time reading what you have to say about me and my friends so by all means go right on ahead and talk about us but I wont care. I highly doubt that assassin will care either or anyone else in ths forum for a matter. I you dont't like what we say then too bad. I find it funny.

Point is, if you think that it's old and has been discussed enough then don't read it. I however would like to.

Nice attempt at trying to be rude and hurtful though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

If you don't like this forum then go to inviosnfree.com and make your own.
Now back on topic....

yawn ... well im still waiting for the sensible posts

its spam off topic or just rehashing what has been said already ... like all the stuff youve said in this topic .... do you actually read threads before you jump all over them?

its less the old thread more the you arnt bothering to read it then just rehashing what was there before just in a more childlike manner

weve managed to keep this place sane and sensible in the face of countless morons and idiots now if we can find a useful defence against kids (moqqy scythe and quite few other you arnt included in this as your childish when its fitting not all the time) .........

the_assassin_07
08-04-2007, 01:26 PM
So what are you doing now, 'cos I would define that as spam. And to keep this post on topic: Wouldn't the leader be losing most of his soldiers if he was doing what people suggested.

Altair_92
08-04-2007, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by the_assassin_07:
So what are you doing now, 'cos I would define that as spam. And to keep this post on topic: Wouldn't the leader be losing most of his soldiers if he was doing what people suggested.

I didnt even read what he said. lol

yeah. I mean if your dead then you can't be loyal to anyone anymore. Ill PM you what I think in a minute. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It's so funny how hes ripping on us and he doesnt even know us. Scythe not spam? lol

moqqy
08-04-2007, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by the_assassin_07:
So what are you doing now, 'cos I would define that as spam. And to keep this post on topic: Wouldn't the leader be losing most of his soldiers if he was doing what people suggested.

well obviously he's not doing it.. in the story he only told 1-3 guys to leap.. it's not like he does it after every breakfast

dragfindel
08-04-2007, 02:08 PM
okay i have a wierd theory... maybe the assassins are able to transform in birds since there are birds in the sky.+ altair was gone in one of the trailers and there was only a bird left

i know it's stupid but i don't know what else to think of it it doesn't look logical that ppl just "jump off a building"
i know it's strange don't flame me and i know this isn't possible. just something popped in my head.

moqqy
08-04-2007, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by dragfindel:
okay i have a wierd theory... maybe the assassins are able to transform in birds since there are birds in the sky.+ altair was gone in one of the trailers and there was only a bird left

i know it's stupid but i don't know what else to think of it it doesn't look logical that ppl just "jump off a building"
i know it's strange don't flame me and i know this isn't possible. just something popped in my head.

that would be reeeeally lame:P but theyre just probably showing their loyalty, or did you think about this.. they didnt jump. they were pushed.

Altair_92
08-04-2007, 02:14 PM
That's be cool if they could transform though.

I think that perhaps the leader of the assassins is actually a bad guy. He gets the assassins to kill who he needs and wants dead, while at the same time having them kill themselves untill they are eventually all dead.

Don't flame me either cause that was just an idea.


Yeah, i said ear;ier how they might be being pushed off for failing a lot.

dragfindel
08-04-2007, 02:15 PM
yeah i know it whould be lame but i coulden't think better :P
and altair_92 jade was talking about a conspiracy so why not?

the_assassin_07
08-04-2007, 02:17 PM
or did you think about this.. they didnt jump. they were pushed.
Yeah but why would everyone be so calm?


I didnt even read what he said. lol

yeah. I mean if your dead then you can't be loyal to anyone anymore. Ill PM you what I think in a minute.

It's so funny how hes ripping on us and he doesnt even know us. Scythe nor spam? lol

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif lol and where's my PM? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

danny.b87
08-04-2007, 02:27 PM
ey its not very helpfull in mather of the question in this thread but here goes

http://www.megaessays.com/viewpaper/22428.html

a bit of what they say on the site:

The beginning of the Shia movement dates back to the death of Muhammad. An example of this is in 1192 when a small group of assassins infiltrated an enemy base in Syria dressed as Christian monks and killed Conrad of Montferrat, king of Jerusalem (Dinmore 8).

The history of the assassins begins in 1090 with the capturing of the citadel of Almut in Iran (Assassins 2002). The assassins old belief of self sacrifice is reflected today by suicide bombers who believe upon doing this they will have a direct and safe passage to the afterlife.

it doesnt have much to do with the game but something are in the game

like dressed up like monks and kill Conrad of Montferrat. so altair can blend in with the monks but oke doesnt dress like them.. but if im right he has to kill that guy right? Conrad of Montferrat???

Emericanized
08-04-2007, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by moqqy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by the_assassin_07:
So what are you doing now, 'cos I would define that as spam. And to keep this post on topic: Wouldn't the leader be losing most of his soldiers if he was doing what people suggested.

well obviously he's not doing it.. in the story he only told 1-3 guys to leap.. it's not like he does it after every breakfast </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I definitely agree with you there, moqqy. Working on the assumption that this is a true story; He may have felt that proving a point warranted the loss of 1-3 people! Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be the only leader who stretched the definition of "acceptable losses"! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Altair_92
08-04-2007, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by dragfindel:
yeah i know it whould be lame but i coulden't think better :P
and altair_92 jade was talking about a conspiracy so why not?

I know. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

So perhaps you have to somehow try and stop it.

The guy is probably having someone push them off and while Altair is gone killing all of the 9 people hes planning something.


Well after Altair kills all 9 he comes back to the santuary and the assassins are fighting with the leader of the assassins (Which is really a traitor) and is trying to gain control over the region and his other warriors (Perhaps assassin traitors just like him) are fighting the good assassins.

Perhaps that is why Altair is looking at the man at the door like that.



So pretty much -

-Their leader is a traitor and is trying to take over control of the land.

-His fighters are composed of some of the assassins of the sanctuary that decide to be with him for power.

-Altair has been killing people that need to die, but they were also people that the assassin leader needed to be rid of before he could gain power.

-He didn't want Altair around becuse he was the only one who posed a threat and he didn't want him to somehow find out about his plans, therefore by sending him out the chances of him finding out about the plans would be smaller and the 9 key people that he needed dead would be killed.

-Altair comes back from killing the 9th and he stumbles upon the battle and is confused and angry, questioning the man.



I was going to PM you this assassin, but I just decided to poost it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

dragfindel
08-04-2007, 02:35 PM
or he is a traitor who has close ties with the "9"
well i think the conspiracy has to do with the "9"
also why exactly the number maybe the number 9 has a special meaning if someone can find this out?

Altair_92
08-04-2007, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by dragfindel:
or he is a traitor who has close ties with the "9"
well i think the conspiracy has to do with the "9"
also why exactly the number maybe the number 9 has a special meaning if someone can find this out?

So, what did you think. lol

I think that it seems to be a reasonable one.

dragfindel
08-04-2007, 02:43 PM
heh read my post again i am not very clearly :P
i dunno argh/

off topic have you seen the newest vg cats comic?

Jimjemael_796
08-04-2007, 02:46 PM
The assassin on the steps doesn't seem to suprised he's shrugging lol. "oh **** the boss is having visitors again". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Altair_92
08-04-2007, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by dragfindel:
heh read my post again i am not very clearly :P
i dunno argh/

off topic have you seen the newest vg cats comic?

The transformers one? Poor Bumblebee.

Lordgrunty11
08-04-2007, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by Lhorkan:
Well if it aren't birds, I'm sure you can indulge us in the secret of people falling down the keep?

Alright let me try... There are bails of hay under the snow and they really are training to be assassins.

dragfindel
08-04-2007, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Altair_92:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dragfindel:
heh read my post again i am not very clearly :P
i dunno argh/

off topic have you seen the newest vg cats comic?

The transformers one? Poor Bumblebee. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
no the rare candy one with the pokemon command thingy.

and i still dont get what they are doing

Altair_92
08-04-2007, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by dragfindel:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Altair_92:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dragfindel:
heh read my post again i am not very clearly :P
i dunno argh/

off topic have you seen the newest vg cats comic?

The transformers one? Poor Bumblebee. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
no the rare candy one with the pokemon command thingy.

and i still dont get what they are doing </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



Hahaha! That's funny. Here's the joke.


He ate the sandwhich and got exp. He has to cr@p after eating it but already has 4 moves learned -

Eat, breath, videogames, sleep. He needs 3 of 4 to survive, but he chooses to remove breath and learn how to cr@p.lol

So he can't breath, but he cr@ps his pants cause he's dead. Well Im guessing hes dead.

unnamedninja
08-04-2007, 03:41 PM
I'm using a tiny resolution so that picture is huge to me, they look fairly convincingly like birds to my eye.

I love the "hi honey i'm home, how about a big hug!" pose Altair is doing as he walks up the stairs.

A_Bird_Of_Prey_
08-04-2007, 04:40 PM
not everyone in the picture is calm if you look at the guy at the bottom, supposedly Altair, you see that he has his arms outstreched like he's saying "WHAT THE @$!*" so ya that should have been oblivious. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Boromir323
08-04-2007, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Altair_92:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Boromir323:
There were reports of Hashashin warriors leaping to their death at the command of their leader to show their loyalty.

I could be loyal and all, but never would I do that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They did it because they believed that there was a paradise afterlife. They thought dying would be better then living.

Altair_92
08-04-2007, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by Boromir323:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Altair_92:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Boromir323:
There were reports of Hashashin warriors leaping to their death at the command of their leader to show their loyalty.

I could be loyal and all, but never would I do that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They did it because they believed that there was a paradise afterlife. They thought dying would be better then living. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't think that's the case in this game.

noobfun
08-05-2007, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by Altair_92:

So pretty much -

-Their leader is a traitor and is trying to take over control of the land.

-His fighters are composed of some of the assassins of the sanctuary that decide to be with him for power.

-Altair has been killing people that need to die, but they were also people that the assassin leader needed to be rid of before he could gain power.

-He didn't want Altair around becuse he was the only one who posed a threat and he didn't want him to somehow find out about his plans, therefore by sending him out the chances of him finding out about the plans would be smaller and the 9 key people that he needed dead would be killed.

-Altair comes back from killing the 9th and he stumbles upon the battle and is confused and angry, questioning the man.

I was going to PM you this assassin, but I just decided to poost it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

wonder where this has been posted else where ....

..ahh here it is (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/9281020765/p/1)

SolucanStudios
08-05-2007, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by JN006:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

Come on!! BIRDS!?
Pouahahah!

What is your real name?

THE NOTE: My engilish a little.Don't look at the fault.I speak turkish.

Altair_92
08-05-2007, 02:21 PM
Listen. If we don't keep on topic then this thread will be locked and people will be banned. I'd like to talke about these ideas with NEW members like me and many other that just joined around July. If you don't wish to seriously discuss ideas in this thread, then please leave.



Yes, Altair looks very surprised in a bad way as if arguing with the person in front of the door.


I didn' read what noobfun posted, but apparently they think that I copied my idea or something just based on what they said. Apparently no two people can have about the same idea. And no, I didn't "Steal" anyone's idea/s and I haven't even been to that thread Im sure.

AldirTheKnight
08-05-2007, 05:01 PM
I don't think Altair started a conversation with the guard

Altair_92
08-05-2007, 05:27 PM
I don't know. The way he has his arms outstretched makes it seem like he is.


I know that this is just concept art, but you never know. It might show something that might happen at some point in the story.

AldirTheKnight
08-05-2007, 05:34 PM
like the drawing of the bazaar, that they later showed Altair fighting in?

Altair_92
08-05-2007, 05:36 PM
Possibly. You mean the concept art that was kinda goldish brown. I think I know the pic. It was pretty cool.

kikilekiki
08-05-2007, 08:48 PM
People jumping are probably just practising the leap of faith... Or at least I hope for their sake.

dragfindel
08-06-2007, 03:36 AM
well i don't think they whould practise leap of faith on a rock :P
but maybe on the snow.
but i don't know what they are doing it could be that the artist put them in there to make us speculate. just my point of view.

moqqy
08-06-2007, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by dragfindel:
well i don't think they whould practise leap of faith on a rock :P
but maybe on the snow.
but i don't know what they are doing it could be that the artist put them in there to make us speculate. just my point of view.

well i don't really think they make concept arts just for us to speculate.. they make them for the team usually, yessss?

dragfindel
08-06-2007, 05:09 AM
yes but i don't know what to say of it...so i won't post my crazy ideas anymore.

the_assassin_07
08-06-2007, 05:46 AM
People jumping are probably just practising the leap of faith... Or at least I hope for their sake.
Yeah on a huge mountain with no soft landing anywhere....

McMasterJ
08-06-2007, 06:20 AM
I've been informed im wrong. Im going by an article I read, not info that I know is accurate. But by common sence and what ive read put together, it comes out to be a show of loyalty to there master. I apologize for my mis-information.

moqqy
08-06-2007, 06:20 AM
Originally posted by the_assassin_07:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">People jumping are probably just practising the leap of faith... Or at least I hope for their sake.
Yeah on a huge mountain with no soft landing anywhere.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

they don't need soft landing.. they're the hashashin who drink drugs and become supermen cos of it



---------

P.S McMaster that's not correct. It's WROOOOONG. Almost EVERYTHING in that text you copied is wrong..

Altair_92
08-06-2007, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by dragfindel:
yes but i don't know what to say of it...so i won't post my crazy ideas anymore.

Posting a crazy idea is better than nothing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Mc - Don't listent to moqqy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

moqqy
08-06-2007, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by Altair_92:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dragfindel:
yes but i don't know what to say of it...so i won't post my crazy ideas anymore.

Posting a crazy idea is better than nothing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Mc - Don't listent to moqqy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yep dont listen to me cos i know more than altair_92

edit... and altair_92
ohh check, mc edited his post "I've been informed im wrong. Im going by an article I read, not info that I know is accurate. But by common sence and what ive read put together, it comes out to be a show of loyalty to there master. I apologize for my mis-information."

YES he shouldnt listen to me -_-

McMasterJ
08-06-2007, 02:41 PM
No, I shouldnt listen to you. But it being wikipedia and a legend, not fact. So I could be wrong.

But really it makes sence. These assassins want to go back to this "heaven" he has created. Place you go after you die and only when he says you can. Called brainwashing.

noobfun
08-06-2007, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by McMasterJ:
No, I shouldnt listen to you. But it being wikipedia and a legend, not fact. So I could be wrong.

But really it makes sence. These assassins want to go back to this "heaven" he has created. Place you go after you die and only when he says you can. Called brainwashing.

thats the problem it is legend and it is wikipedia

hassan didnt create a heaven on earth, suicide was still considered an unholy death

suicide didnt get you in to heaven and they didnt take drugs .....

besides has no one else noticed .... its a concept art shot .. the in game shot of masayef looks nothing what so ever like this concept shot

moqqy
08-06-2007, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by McMasterJ:
No, I shouldnt listen to you. But it being wikipedia and a legend, not fact. So I could be wrong.

But really it makes sence. These assassins want to go back to this "heaven" he has created. Place you go after you die and only when he says you can. Called brainwashing.

yeh you shouldnt listen to me you might accidently get right information http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ever heard of "faith"? christians believe they go to heaven too, and even without drugs!!!!!!!!!

Altair_92
08-06-2007, 05:59 PM
"Yeah you shouldnt listen to me you might accidently get right information http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif"


Yeah.....okay......... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif


Yes, we all know that it's concept art as if it wasn't obvious.

moqqy
08-06-2007, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by Altair_92:
"Yeah you shouldnt listen to me you might accidently get right information http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif"


Yeah.....okay......... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif


Yes, we all know that it's concept art as if it wasn't obvious.

yep, okayhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

noobfun
08-06-2007, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by Altair_92:
"Yeah you shouldnt listen to me you might accidently get right information http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif"


Yeah.....okay......... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif


Yes, we all know that it's concept art as if it wasn't obvious.

right information .......*cough* pladgerised*cough* *cough*total twaddle*cough*

really must see a doctor about this cough

McMasterJ
08-07-2007, 04:56 AM
Originally posted by moqqy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by McMasterJ:
No, I shouldnt listen to you. But it being wikipedia and a legend, not fact. So I could be wrong.

But really it makes sence. These assassins want to go back to this "heaven" he has created. Place you go after you die and only when he says you can. Called brainwashing.

yeh you shouldnt listen to me you might accidently get right information http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ever heard of "faith"? christians believe they go to heaven too, and even without drugs!!!!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Im not gonna get into faith with you, dear god ill be here ill day. But im talking abbout a faulse heaven that was created to make the assassins belive they would go there when they die. A wager of sorts, you do what ill tell you, youll go here.

noobfun
08-07-2007, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by McMasterJ:

Im not gonna get into faith with you, dear god ill be here ill day. But im talking abbout a faulse heaven that was created to make the assassins belive they would go there when they die. A wager of sorts, you do what ill tell you, youll go here.

you could argue thats what all religeons do

but your missing the point ..... said several times .... hassan DID NOT BUILD A MAGIC GARDEN TO SHOW DRUGGED UP MUPPETS WHAT HEAVEN IS LIKE

SolucanStudios
08-07-2007, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by SolucanStudios:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JN006:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

Come on!! BIRDS!?
Pouahahah!

What is your real name?

THE NOTE: My engilish a little.Don't look at the fault.I speak turkish. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

?

UGUYSRTHIEVES
08-07-2007, 08:53 AM
THIEVERY OF http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif!!!

the_assassin_07
08-07-2007, 09:00 AM
LOL http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

TheDudditz
08-07-2007, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by UGUYSRTHIEVES:
THIEVERY OF http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif!!!

Holy CRAB GRASS.

TIS TRUE!

UGUYSRTHIEVES
08-07-2007, 09:01 AM
You all should be ashamed of thyselves. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

TheDudditz
08-07-2007, 09:06 AM
I agree on pouring hot tar on their bare bottoms. That'll teach 'em.

Sapphire_Jem
08-07-2007, 09:06 AM
WE HAD IT FIRST, THIEVES http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

COPYRITE1
08-07-2007, 10:23 AM
ya u guyz r gay http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

the_assassin_07
08-07-2007, 10:29 AM
Attack of the newbies!!!!!

ScytheOfGrim
08-07-2007, 10:33 AM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

i forgot what this thing was about...the num. of smileys here is disturbing...even to a sadist...

the_assassin_07
08-07-2007, 10:35 AM
LOL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif newbies don't post spam 'cos then this thread is gonna get locked. And I suspect all of you to be the same person http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif.

ScytheOfGrim
08-07-2007, 10:38 AM
LOL!!!!

the same guy is arguing with himself!!!

i do that in the mirror but not in public http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif...i just said that out loud...didnt i??

the_assassin_07
08-07-2007, 10:47 AM
LOL http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif.

ScytheOfGrim
08-07-2007, 10:50 AM
ok...i haven been here for the past few days so im wondering if you can update me...can you??

im XP and need to be Vista http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

the_assassin_07
08-07-2007, 11:09 AM
And....

ScytheOfGrim
08-07-2007, 11:11 AM
and...ummm..what??

what the heck is this thread about!!!???

i saw one pic at the beginning but sloppy told me hst there was a pic of guys in the stronghold ad now im confused cuz i cant find them and im hungry for orphan souls!!!!(Baudelaires...)

the_assassin_07
08-07-2007, 11:13 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif It's about the base of the Assassins and people jumping off the building.....

ScytheOfGrim
08-07-2007, 11:16 AM
NYAAAAAGHHHHH!!!!!

im gonna killl you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

first the pro evo thing and now this!!!!!

i mean where is te pic of the guys in the fort thingie!!!! if there even is one!!!!!!!!!!

you know...that should be your Hiafodain rank...

the_assassin_07
08-07-2007, 11:17 AM
On the 1st page......

ScytheOfGrim
08-07-2007, 11:24 AM
o you bloody idiot...wait http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif...im the idiot...i thought literally INSIDE the stronghold with guys and stuff...maybe they're trainee assassins that didnt make it in the end...or failed a mission and therefore they're tossed off...cool...and altair wasnt tossed cuz he was already a high ranking assassin...thus the reason why many of the assassins dont like altair...

the_assassin_07
08-07-2007, 11:25 AM
And the prize for the latest discovery goes to...

ScytheOfGrim
08-07-2007, 11:49 AM
you for dicovering you have one head http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Relaps45
08-07-2007, 11:52 AM
******* you people are dumb. I gotta come in here, wastin' my time to sort ****.

No, those people were not the same person. I don't know why you would think that. Our spam forum saw that you use the http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif smiley and were like "OMFG DIEDIEDIEIDEDIIEI DAT WUZ ARZ LULULULULULULZ"


PS: Less "..."s and "!!!"s.

moqqy
08-07-2007, 12:46 PM
Sweet picture.

Altair_92
08-07-2007, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by noobfun:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Altair_92:
"Yeah you shouldnt listen to me you might accidently get right information http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif"


Yeah.....okay......... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif


Yes, we all know that it's concept art as if it wasn't obvious.

right information .......*cough* pladgerised*cough* *cough*total twaddle*cough*

really must see a doctor about this cough </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


It was in quotes. I didn't post that moqqy did (The 1st line).


And stop smaming because it's going to get locked because of Scythe and Assassin. Stop fighting over stupid things and please get back on topic.

dragfindel
08-07-2007, 02:00 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif
and one thing i know the awnser!
just wait until teh game is released then we know for sure :P

noobfun
08-07-2007, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Altair_92:

It was in quotes. I didn't post that moqqy did (The 1st line).

i know .... guess thats another one that flew over your head



And stop smaming because it's going to get locked because of Scythe and Assassin. Stop fighting over stupid things and please get back on topic.

lmfao the topic was over ages ago the last 3 or 4 pages are just rehash of earlier posts and scythe bieng scythe

chances are it wont be locked unless someone starts a real flame war because it was (once a long time ago) a valid topic

Altair_92
08-07-2007, 02:46 PM
Please. If you don't want to talk about this then why are you posting in here. Please just stop making smart comments. And Scythe can't away with smapping. it seems to me that you have no intention of actually adding to this thread so it's pointless for you to be here.

AldirTheKnight
08-07-2007, 05:26 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif thread died

Altair_92
08-07-2007, 06:38 PM
No. Just because no ones posted in a few hours doesnt mean that its dead. And oh well if it is. Someone can revive it if they have some new ideas. A few new ones have been talked about since its revive and thats good. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Im still thinking about a few things. Perhaps Ill post them here.

zgubilici
08-07-2007, 09:21 PM
That is ENOUGH of spamming and straying off-topic in this thread!
The_assassin_07, I have already warned you about spamming- this is the last one.
You and ScytheOfGrim have to take these discussions to PT's or in the "bring up whatever you like thread" - stop going off-topic everywhere. This is the last warning!


Noobfun, this thread wasn't bumped - it had new information and questions about the topic at hand in the post that followed after the one made four months ago. That is not bumping. Instead of making a new thread and having it redirected and closed, this is the right way to go about posting in a topic of interest if there are interesting things to add or simply a clarification question to ask. If members wish to still talk about it, they can, as long as it stays on topic.
All the bickerings about this have to stop right now!

<hr class="ev_code_hr" />
As for the thread:
If these spamming trends continue, the thread will be locked and suspensions for all the ones spamming again will follow as well.

Post responsibly.
Thank you.

SCARFACE_47
08-19-2007, 12:27 PM
now letĀ“s bring this back a bit
fact is, we see people jump of the building
fact is, it seems really really really WEIRD
but there are 2 things that make me telling you we should not bother
1. altair is not what we call the ****** guy that does like other mid age assassins and dies for his oly mission, he is the sympathic nice protagonist (like sub zero or spider-man)
2. maybe it is the development of the leap of aith, you know you gotta try that and perhaps they needed some time until the realized we need hay

the_assassin_07
08-19-2007, 02:09 PM
But the thing is, I don't think it has anything to do with the story. But it's still intresting http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

ocataco
08-19-2007, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by the_assassin_07:
I don't think it has anything to do with the story.
...it doesnt. atleast not the assassins creed story. long time ago, the real hashshashin were let by this guy (hassasn-i-sabbah originally) who drugged em & stuck em in a nice garden, then they woke up, were drugged again, and woke back up outside of the garden. they belived that he had been given special powers, allowing him to send them to heaven and whatnot. after that, they would do anything he said, in hopes of going to heaven after death regardless of what they did in life. more than once, he had people suicide off of his roof to show off to other important leaders or friends...

hasnt that already been said like 3 times? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

SCARFACE_47
08-19-2007, 03:01 PM
yes but usually people listen to the part with the hoolers in the garden of el weedo, but thx that someone letĀ“s that out ^^
/maybe they listen to to much rem i am superman)

the_assassin_07
08-19-2007, 03:04 PM
Hey I can easily ban you from The Fishicled http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif. LOL http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Only joking http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. I know that I was just saying that it has nothing to do with the story, I wasn't saying this thread was pointless. Anyway back on topic: You know the cobweb stuff in the pic: how can it be snow? Because it doesn't really look like snow.

frifeb
08-19-2007, 06:20 PM
Hey i would like to no who makes the song for video one on the video gallery

spazzoo1025
08-19-2007, 06:34 PM
im thinkin maybe they just drew it cuz it looked cool, ah hmmm yes yes?

Augustus-Metz
08-19-2007, 07:48 PM
not to be an @$$ but how do you not know that those figures (the one closest and the one in the doorway) are the same people (an assassin) and hes not also at the top of whatever it is throwin gaurds off the top??? just a thought

Truthfuleagle
08-19-2007, 08:45 PM
maybe they're assassins jumping into haystacks below

the_assassin_07
08-20-2007, 02:16 AM
I don't think there could be a haystack there when they're on a huge mountain http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif.

SCARFACE_47
08-20-2007, 02:39 AM
because they are developing the move, and it tool about 16 assassins until someone came up with the idea of a haystack instead of aggressive stage diving
and now letĀ“s understand them (someway)
why would WE jump off there?
maybe we are dumb and jump for dishounor by not making your assassination
or are we just high?

the_assassin_07
08-20-2007, 03:58 AM
Ooooo!!!! I have an idea! They might be comitting suicide because being an Assassin was too tough for them! Or they were getting rid of the bodies of their victims!!

SCARFACE_47
08-20-2007, 10:21 AM
hmmmmmmm...emoassassins, i wonder if this could work

ScytheOfGrim
08-20-2007, 10:25 AM
hmm... probably...

but if that isnt it, then that's arabic science XD

we wanna know if it's true if something of larger mass falls to the ground with higher velocity.

XD but we are very careful with our results so we have to test it multiple times lol

danny.b87
08-20-2007, 11:12 AM
nooo they are showing loyalty to there master so they jump off. if the master says jump they ask: how high!!

moqqy
08-21-2007, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by the_assassin_07:
Ooooo!!!! I have an idea! They might be comitting suicide because being an Assassin was too tough for them! Or they were getting rid of the bodies of their victims!!

why would their victims be at their castle?:O or why would they get rid of them like that? why would they even want to get rid of them:P

the_assassin_07
08-21-2007, 10:19 AM
Maybe they didn't want people to know.. or something... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Jobo511
08-21-2007, 07:29 PM
or maybe they were doing this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7rxhqUHksz)

Jobo511
08-21-2007, 07:30 PM
wtf it didnt work

Jobo511
08-21-2007, 07:31 PM
just go to youtube and search ground dive, it should be the first one

moqqy
08-22-2007, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by the_assassin_07:
Maybe they didn't want people to know.. or something... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

but why wouldnt they want people to know:P why would they bring them to their fortress? and theres much more efficient ways of making someone disappear than throwing him infront of your gate...

SCARFACE_47
08-22-2007, 03:18 AM
i know (maybe it is because i saw dogma now-ben affleck killing people hell yeah) what it is, the eagles attack by catching the assassins flying high and then they just let them crash