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Ketalar
04-12-2005, 12:51 PM
Hey gang! I have q auestion for you. I've currently got a Microsoft ForceFeedback2 stick, a set of CH Products Pro Pedals and a TrackIR v1. I feel fairly confident when it comes to finding the keys on the keyboard fast (not whlie typing mind you). I've got all essential keys for combat mapped to my stick (except WEP, CEM and radiators).

I've been thinking about buying a CH Pruducts Pro Throttle, but the limited space on my desk and the price tag has me wondering.

What would a Pro Throttle actually do for me? Will it make me fly better or "only" enhace the immersion factor?

Any feedback will be appreciated.

Ps
Posting again as the forum bug seems to have eaten my first post...

horseback
04-12-2005, 01:57 PM
The first thing I thought of when I saw your post title was "views", but with TrackIR, those are unnecessary. You will get the ability to combine the throttle with your pedals into one controller, and have between 16 and 24 extra buttons plus the throttle axis, depending upon what you decide to do with your 'hat,' which will allow you to fly with your stick hand and control your engine with your throttle hand, as God intended.

It will last almost forever, so remember to add it to your will in order to prevent your heirs from squabbling...

cheers

horseback

madsarmy
04-12-2005, 02:21 PM
Ketlar you will not regret getting a pro throttle. I have about 38 key commands programed for it & with my MS FFB2 I never need to touch my keyboard in flight.

Ketalar
04-13-2005, 10:00 AM
Thanks guys. Does anyone else have any opinions?

BuzzU
04-13-2005, 10:16 AM
I couldn't fly without it.



Plus it makes a great pot of coffee.

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-13-2005, 12:16 PM
I have mine set with most all of the CEM controls and with even just a little use it becomes second nature. It's really nice to be able to control all these functions (here's what I have setup on my Pro throttle):

4 way hat - supercharger next/previous, fuel Mix increase/decrease
4 way hat - radiator flaps, WEP, Flaps extend/retract
1 button - map
1 button - gear up (do not put it on a hatswitch!)
1 button - airbrake
8 way hat - 3 view controls (zoom, normal, wide)

As you can see, I'm not using all of the functions, but it's only because I haven't taken the time (over 2 years!) to map anything else. This covers most all of my needs and the only thing I really use on the keyboard is obscure controls like Mirrors, manual gear activation and lights.


TB

F16_Neo
04-13-2005, 01:12 PM
Any rotaries/sliders on it?

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-13-2005, 03:57 PM
No rotaries and the only slider is the Throttle axis. The lack of sliders is not a big deal, but the absence of at least one rotary is too bad. The saitek throttle and the cougar throttle both have rotaries and it really does enhance their versatility. I think the response I got from CH when I asked them about this was that they hadn't gotten enough feedback to justify it at present and that repeatable, consistent reliabilty was their emphasis.


TB

Bamatt
04-13-2005, 03:58 PM
I love mine and cannot fly without it. I have my flaps, cockpit views (wide, normal etc..), WEP, superchargers, lights, gunner postitions, scores and etc all set on my throttle. I have the mini-stick configured to pan view (no need for track IR).

Mine was a gift from two buddies and I love it.

ComradeBadinov
04-13-2005, 04:07 PM
I'll sell ya my CH Combat Stick for $50.oo bucks.... PM me..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

timholt
04-13-2005, 09:03 PM
Go for it. It's one of those items (like Track IR)that once you have used it you will wonder how you ever did without it.

Ketalar
04-17-2005, 04:59 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Ok guys, I'm starting to lean more and more towards ordering a throttle. Just need to shuffle things around on the desk. Funny how the mouse and keyboard move further and further out, with the stick moving in towards the center...

Bearcat99
04-17-2005, 09:25 PM
I was going to suggest you go here (http://store.yahoo.com/saitekusa/recprod.html) ad get an X-45 but since yousaid space is a consideration go with the CH. A throttle will just add to your immersion. It is good to have.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
04-17-2005, 10:32 PM
Well if you don't like it I guess you could always wear it as a hat http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

horseback
04-18-2005, 10:57 AM
About that stuff moving around on your desk...

I 'fly' at a desk with a slide-out keyboard tray, where I placed my throttle, mouse & Combatstick (the keyboard sits on the desk proper, in front of the monitor), and it had the tendency to slide in or out at inopportune times. On top of this, the controllers themselves tended to migrate from one side of the tray to another...

I bought a piece of oak about 30" by 20" (77mmX51mm)and about 1/2" thick. I cut it into a fat "T" shape so that when placed on top of the sliding tray, it held the tray motionless, and cut out holes to match the Pro Throttle and Combatsticks' bases, with a little notch for the USB cables.

Now the tray doesn't move and the controllers are always in exactly the same place all the time. It makes an even bigger difference than I thought.

cheers

horseback

LeadSpitter_
04-18-2005, 06:09 PM
Probally make you mad that it does not support dual pitch trottle mixture axis, but you can make it work with button press bans which is not the same thing. Return it

Anyways if its the 6 axis 6 trim ch trottle quadrant thats $150

Lunix
04-19-2005, 08:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
1 button - gear up (do not put it on a hatswitch!)
TB <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I can vouch for that!

chaikanut
04-19-2005, 09:12 AM
Can you add an X45 throttle with CH stick & pedals?

Hrdina
04-21-2005, 09:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
I have mine set with most all of the CEM controls and with even just a little use it becomes second nature. It's really nice to be able to control all these functions (here's what I have setup on my Pro throttle):

4 way hat - supercharger next/previous, fuel Mix increase/decrease
4 way hat - radiator flaps, WEP, Flaps extend/retract
1 button - map
1 button - gear up (do not put it on a hatswitch!)
1 button - airbrake
8 way hat - 3 view controls (zoom, normal, wide)

As you can see, I'm not using all of the functions, but it's only because I haven't taken the time (over 2 years!) to map anything else. This covers most all of my needs and the only thing I really use on the keyboard is obscure controls like Mirrors, manual gear activation and lights. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks for posting this. I recently bought a CH Throttle/Fighterstick (to replace my old TM gameport gear), and I'm still trying to figure out how I want to program it. I don't yet have enough experience in the sim to know which things I'll use most often.

I now own 4 pieces of CH gear (throttle, stick, pedals, yoke) and I can't recommend it highly enough. Great gear & great support.

Ketalar
04-24-2005, 01:27 PM
One CH Pro Throttle ordered. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif (Not the Throttle Quadrant mind you.)

I'll post my thoughts when it gets here.

knightflyte
04-24-2005, 11:35 PM
Maximum PC just reviewed the CH throttle quadrant and gave it an 8 out of 10.
For a Quake, and Doom type magazine I'd consider that high praise.

No601_Swallow
04-25-2005, 04:47 AM
Alright...
I've been leaning towards getting a throttle as well, but I'm left-handed. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif
Along with all the creative genius stuff (Da Vinci, Bjorn Borg, Nicole Kidman, etc) this means I'd need a throttle to go with my sad and clumsy right hand. Any suggestions?

Ketalar
04-25-2005, 06:31 AM
Swallow:
Either get the CH Throttle Quadrant or just buy a "regular" throttle and learn to fly with your right hand. I'm right-handed, so sim-wise I'm all set, however I like everyone else use my left hand to fly the Cessna and Piper IRL. Think it feels weird? Well, maybe at first, but I have no problem at all with it now. Try it, you might like it. Or, as I said, just pick up a Throttle Quadrant.


Still waiting to get my Pro Throttle, they sent it today. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

chaikanut
04-27-2005, 05:48 PM
Throttle quadrant or ch throttle? Now THAT is the question.

LeLu_Repo
04-27-2005, 11:15 PM
It is fairly easy to do trim control yourself.
Even I was able to do ithttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif 3 Axis + 4 buttons, configure it for example as CH flightstick pro.

I connected my self made control to CH gameport pedals. Works in Win2000 atleast.

http://www.lentolaivue69.com/tiedostot/Masi_kone.jpg

Left side of prothrottle you can see cornenr of Trim control. I can send more pictures if someone wants to do the same.

Ketalar
04-28-2005, 06:24 PM
I got my CH Pro Throttle today! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif First off, it's pretty darned big. I don't have the biggest hands on the block, but I guess I'll have to get used to shifting my hand ever so slightly when I need to reach some of the hats. Qualitywise it feels good though, just like my Pro Pedals. IL-2:FB+ACE+PF had no problems recognizing it as controller ID3 so binding all the new keys was a breeze (I haven't bothered to program all the extra Shift-functions yet...).

I have one problem though. I've always used the AltGr (right Alt) button as my Push-to-talk button in TeamSound and TeamSpeak. I can't manage to convice the throttle to give this input on one of the buttons so I had to switch to Q which works. However when I hit Q or the button I assigned to it while at the desktop I get a stream of Windows-chimes... So chatting while not in-game is horrible (haven't tried in-game yet, didn't find anyone to talk to...).

Does anyone know how to either get rid of the chimes or (better) to force the throttle to send AltGr when I hit the button?


LeLu_Repo:
You look...tiny! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


[Edit]
lol Ok, I found the answer. All I had to do was type RALT instead of pushing the button in the correct space. It works like a charm now, and I'm even more tired and happy. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Bearcat99
04-28-2005, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by chaikanut:
Can you add an X45 throttle with CH stick & pedals?

I dont see why not.... FB will see the X-45 as a seperate controller but it will see both parts as one so you could use the stick part as a button bay.

LeLu_Repo
04-28-2005, 11:04 PM
Ketalar, check that key you assign in CH-control manager for TeamSpeak is not reserved for any other use. I had similar problem, so I just mapped my key to R and tested it.

Also check IL2FB keys after assigning key to TS, you dont want to have bail function on R/T key, belive mehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Also dont use ALT or any other SHIFT keys, they are used by windows. So yuo get lots of ding dongshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif