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Avont29
09-03-2006, 01:53 AM
grr i hate cmmercials, there taking over the country ffs, its like they try to syncronize them all at the same time, im watching a show, and commercials come on, so i change to another show, and the host is like quick commercial break, i change AGAIN MORE COmmercials. i really hate thowse, half the show is filled with commercials

btw bearcat what is that plug called again to get form radio shack

ytareh
09-03-2006, 03:17 AM
There sure are a lot of commercials/'ads' on US TV.Maybe twice as many as in Europe?Some channels here dont even have commercials.
I think I would find TV borderline watchable with that many ads.....

DuxCorvan
09-03-2006, 05:34 AM
Let's not talk about Spanish public channels. You see, for example, a series. You see the initial credits. Suddenly, there's a pause for commercials, and man... it's TEN minutes of commercials. When the program resumes, you don't remember what was it about. And this happens several times.

One TV program or show that should last, say, two hours, often lasts more than three, and you usually give up watching it in desperation.

There are laws to rule all this, but money talks, and laws are simply ignored.

heywooood
09-03-2006, 10:22 AM
I saw a blurb in the news last week...something about EA Games putting commercials on their video games. Not just rediculous product placement to the point of distraction, but actual streaming video commercials in cut scenes or in the title cut....anyone else hear about this?


EA Games must be boycotted if thats true.

R_Target
09-03-2006, 10:40 AM
The commercials are a necessary evil. What irks me is that they see fit to crank the volume up during the ads, especially when Billy Mays is peddling his Orange-Glo.

LStarosta
09-03-2006, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by heywooood:
I saw a blurb in the news last week...something about EA Games putting commercials on their video games. Not just rediculous product placement to the point of distraction, but actual streaming video commercials in cut scenes or in the title cut....anyone else hear about this?


EA Games must be boycotted if thats true.

They put ads in FIFA World Cup 2006, but they're just like the banners you see at a real soccer game. So far I haven't actually seen any blatant out-of-context advertising. Do you know which particular game it was?

Bearcat99
09-03-2006, 01:19 PM
For what.. I'm trying to remember... do you mean the Y plug? What were you trying to do again?

Manu-6S
09-03-2006, 01:23 PM
OH, DuxCorvan, Congratulation to your basketball national team for the great victory. Spain must be proud of this team (and leave Kak√ in AC Milan http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif ).

DuxCorvan
09-03-2006, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by Manu-6S:
OH, DuxCorvan, Congratulation to your basketball national team for the great victory. Spain must be proud of this team (and leave Kak√ in AC Milan http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif ).

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GAU-8
09-04-2006, 12:14 AM
im REALLY disliking cable t.v.

years ago the whole reason it was out was because of "NO COMMERCIALS", thats what enticed everybody to switch (well back in the 70's/80's. but because its so mainstream now, commercials have to be there. but d@mn..every 10 minutes, and the break itself is 5 minutes ...

i agree with teh other comment about all the channels being "synched" or whatever. most of the time if i know a commercial is on one channel, all the others are too, except for something cheasy like "lifetime" channel, with thier B rated, "mothers who love drama in everyday life..for other women to watch" plots.

EDIT:: speaking of..why is it "ACES HIGH" has a commercial on every channel? i cant beleive that sim is making that much money to have an advert 30 times a day. OLEG needs to start addy's on the tube!

Waldo.Pepper
09-04-2006, 01:50 AM
Ads are like cancer. But the new Hummer H3 ads are inspired.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0dewx5MJio

Makes me snicker - every single time.

BiscuitKnight
09-04-2006, 02:53 AM
Ads in Victoria, Australia, count for 1/3 of time on TV: 40 minute show like Lost, Stargate or the "dramas" (Neighbors, Home and Away, etc) all go for 20 minutes, but occupy a 30 minute time slot. 2 hour movie will go 7:00 to 10:00, which is 1 hour of ads. Apparently the ad frequency and duration increases toward the end of the movies, to suck you in and then cram in the largest amount of ads, but I don't notice it.

EA Games already deserved a boycott, but if they do start putting ads in software I frigging pay for them to develop (or rather, pay for them to distribute at a massive markup after raping some poor studio for it), I draw the line. Beyond which, BF2142 looks like it'll be to BF2 what BFV was to BF42, and I dislike the setting.

Immermann
09-04-2006, 03:14 AM
It's not that bad here in Sweden, yet... But I once tried to watch superbowl with some friends and we gave up after three hours (a special occation I know, but anyway), the number of commercial brakes was just silly. And they'd ran out of ads about halfways so every other second (or so it seemed...) they just showed a network jingle for half a minute.
On the larger commercial channels here, they have commercial brakes about every fifteen minutes and most people find that annoying. But on an interresting side note; last year a swedish filmmaker (one of those director/producers types, quite popular too) actually took a channel (TV4)to court, and won!, on the basis that commercial brakes ruined his artistic intentions (not sure if that came across right...). Don't know the end result of that, but it's a safe bet we'll not see any of his movies on any commercial channelshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Oh yeah, allmost forgot. The in-game advertising thing was in a first person tactical shooter, not quite sure which, Ghost recon? Companies could buy ad space on posters I think. '
Also, wasn't there something about making it possible to order pizza from pizza hut in some MMORPG?

DuxCorvan
09-04-2006, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by BiscuitKnight:
Apparently the ad frequency and duration increases toward the end of the movies, to suck you in and then cram in the largest amount of ads, but I don't notice it.

Yep, they cut the 'suspense' immersion, throw a million ads at your face with 120Db sound, and then the movie resumes, lasts just one minute, and there are the end credits. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Beuf_Ninja
09-04-2006, 04:57 AM
The answer to ads is the mute button! As soon as they start I hit mute and start a brief conversation with the family. Or you can tape the things you watch and just fastforward throught the ads, I do this alot as I get bored just watching the TV and the rest of the family doesn't appreciate the sound of the Merlin or my guitar playing.

BiscuitKnight
09-04-2006, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
Yep, they cut the 'suspense' immersion, throw a million ads at your face with 120Db sound, and then the movie resumes, lasts just one minute, and there are the end credits. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Hmm, I don't notice it quite so much. Admittedly I've seen some really cruddy ad breaks, where the action stops, then they restart it, then ad break, then the scene unfolds. Mostly it's fine.

It ruined my experience of SG-1 enough that I would have given up watching it off the box had they futzed one episode, but I was fortunate to get the box set just five episodes in. The only drawback is that I watched the whole darn season twice in under a month, among the rest of the things I do, and now I can't wait to see the next season http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I guess I'll go stand outside the nearest Big W looking like I'm about to cry until they order Atlantis in for me.

dazza9806482
09-04-2006, 07:47 AM
I agree.

I hate adverts and they are getting worse. Its just crazy sitting at 10pm getting bombarded with commercials for shampoo, wood varnish, fecking air freshener....

i sometimes feel mentally abused. I too have taken to turning the sound off, the one bit of control you have.

incidentally, the reason for the percieved volume increase is actually greater sound compression on adverts. Its an audio technique that makes dips in sound more level with the loudest peaks, and flattening/ expanding the original waveform.


Still damn annoying though!

SeaFireLIV
09-04-2006, 07:50 AM
I hate commercials, truly I do.

I notice that when commercials come on, they are:

1. More frequent nowadays.
2. Butt in at the most interesting point in a movie.
3. LOUDER than the movie, programme.
4.Repetitive.
5. Use well known music and twist it to make their product sound godlike.
6.Brain-washing, especially for kids.

Granted, there are some useful adds. Granted, some are very clever. But i`d give anything to have a special adverts-removal button on my remote so the screen just goes blank while the ads are on then starts up again when the Movie`s back.

Of course, this will never happen, since the company lobbyist have their fingers deep in the government.

So I just shut the sound off (or the whole TV off) when adverts appear.

And no, "You`re not worth it!" no body`s worth such trash.

BiscuitKnight
09-04-2006, 08:00 AM
About the sound, I think like the guy said above: the sound is limited to the same maximum level as the programme. We all see the loophole, right? The program might two seconds screaming, one gunshot, an interview where someone shouts, brakes squealing. The movie's average sound level is way lower than the maximum, but the ads can crank themselves up to the maximum and try to sit there for their whole 20 second slot.

What I find increasingly annoying is the marketing technique "An ad that stands out is good, thus an unusual ad is good" so you get weirdo ads like the "Rivers Clothing Stores" ads that have someone saying "Why... is... everythink from Rivers... so... comfortable?" like he's trying to pretend he didn't just lose his left nut in a most painful manner. The logic: the ad stands out because it's unusual. Or the monotone ads adopted: get a boring guy to drone for twenty seconds. You learn to filter the noisy ads, you go "whoa, what's this?" to hear some vaccuum ad. Or deliberately frustratingly bad punchlines. All intended to stick in your head because you didn't like them.

Don't they realise it just causes me to swear I'll boycott the business? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

flaysepulcrast
09-04-2006, 08:02 AM
I think this global increase of commercials is just plain desperation.

Ads just don't work anymore for some people, me included.

In fact, when they work, they only do in a bad way: there are tons of products I will never buy because a stupid or an irritating commercial.

MadRuski
09-04-2006, 08:06 AM
but remember..without ads...your free TV wouldnt be free!

ploughman
09-04-2006, 08:08 AM
Don't get me started on my TV license.

NonWonderDog
09-04-2006, 08:13 AM
Head On... applied directly to the forehead.
Head On... applied directly to the forehead.
Head On... applied directly to the forehead.
Head On... applied directly to the forehead.


God, I hate that ad.

LStarosta
09-04-2006, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by NonWonderDog:
Head On... applied directly to the forehead.
Head On... applied directly to the forehead.
Head On... applied directly to the forehead.
Head On... applied directly to the forehead.


God, I hate that ad.

Oh, don't exaggerate.

They only say it three times consecutively.

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SeaFireLIV
09-04-2006, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by MadRuski:
but remember..without ads...your free TV wouldnt be free!

Perhaps it would be better not to have TV. the only reason I have a Tv is to keep my daughter mildly happy. Before that I simply watched DVD movies on a DVDplayer on my PC. I control what I see. News? listen to the radio or the net. the first I heard about 911 was on the net before British Tv even started broadacasting about it! No TV required.

knightflyte
09-04-2006, 09:06 AM
I truly understand the necessary evil of commercials, but there is an extraordinary number of them during certain shows that frustrates.

Then you realize that BASIC cable with no premium channels is $49.00 US. That include the basic 8 to ten channels you can get with an aerial antenae plus channels like USA Network, TBS, Nick at Night, ESPN, and a plethora of Home Shopping Channels. OH JOY!!!!!!

$49.00 for basic plus the honour of all the terrible commercials your eyes and ears can handle without bleeding.

Well I felt abused, untill I was listening to a money show on the radio. A lady called in and said she worked part time and made $27,000 US per year. Where does she work? Cable advertizment.

Now I just feel a little 'looser' in the nether regions.

heywooood
09-04-2006, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by heywooood:
I saw a blurb in the news last week...something about EA Games putting commercials on their video games. Not just rediculous product placement to the point of distraction, but actual streaming video commercials in cut scenes or in the title cut....anyone else hear about this?


EA Games must be boycotted if thats true.

They put ads in FIFA World Cup 2006, but they're just like the banners you see at a real soccer game. So far I haven't actually seen any blatant out-of-context advertising. Do you know which particular game it was? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


look at THIS (http://www.physorg.com/news76256384.html)

What do you think?...good, or bad?

Lucius_Esox
09-04-2006, 11:44 AM
There's an add running on British Tv at the moment for a new Irish Cider which shall remain unamed.

I CANT stand the bloke's voice. As deep a base as you can get and I suppose meant to be manly. Playing on the fact that by somehow drinking this stuff you become worldly wise, patient, and of course more manly,, plus a load more.....

Probably just me but I really want to stick my boot through the tv when it comes on it's sooooo friggin plastic... I just know how it's gonna taste... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

Grrrrhhhh..

Quite like the dancing and ice skating french cars though..

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ploughman
09-04-2006, 12:12 PM
That derriere one though, I want to hurt the person who thought of that.

Low_Flyer_MkVb
09-04-2006, 12:31 PM
Any MacDonald's ad disgusts me.

Are our American friends aware that the British government considers television so dangerous that we have to buy a yearly licence if there's a set in the house? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

DuxCorvan
09-04-2006, 01:53 PM
I hate all ads with grampas and grandsons. The grampa always wear a ridiculous butterfly tie and a cardigan or a dressing-gown, and also a magnificent moustache and low, Gepetto-like, glasses. And then the kind handsome warm old man gives the immensely cute child a speech about how this or that product has been a tradition in the family since nineteen-something, and his memories when he was a child too and bla bla bla.

The guy just looks as a nobleman who has never nailed a nail in his life, but still talks about hard, handmade work, and bla bla bla, before the mind-absent cute half-******ed smiling kid, and finally smiles the camera as he hugs the boy like a perfect pedophile.

Then I realize I could actually beat an old man.

heywooood
09-04-2006, 02:02 PM
yeah - stereotypes blow. Advertisers assume the audience is stupid and so our sences are bludgeoned with these charicatures.

knightflyte
09-04-2006, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by heywooood:
yeah - stereotypes blow. Advertisers assume the audience is stupid and so our sences are bludgeoned with these charicatures.


I never thought they came up with these stereotypes because they thought WE the audience was stupid. I thought it was because they were overpaid unimaginative folks who couldn't come up with better ideas than the contrivancies we see on TV. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Low_Flyer_MkVb
09-04-2006, 02:34 PM
Stereotypes.
If I see one more beer advert featuring three lads (so as not to imply any gayness with only two lads in shot)... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

GAU-8
09-04-2006, 08:26 PM
MADRUSKI.

thats THE POINT of cable...your PAYING for what you WANT TO WATCH.

but in the end, commercials have intervened there too. thats great IM PAYING for billy mays, the "sweep-n-mop", and some "california style car wash"

boo

Pirschjaeger
09-04-2006, 08:53 PM
I think you guys need to watch MTV Germany.

Ever heard of a "klinge tone"? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

What I noticed while watching TV in Germany is that once in a while a TV show will interrupt the commercials.

Fritz

R_Target
09-04-2006, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
Any MacDonald's ad disgusts me.

Are our American friends aware that the British government considers television so dangerous that we have to buy a yearly licence if there's a set in the house? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

I wasn't aware of that. What's the story?

Viper2005_
09-04-2006, 09:30 PM
http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/index.jsp

Convert to USD for your amusement...

Add to the file marked "Living in the UK is Expensive"...

LStarosta
09-04-2006, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by heywooood:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by heywooood:
I saw a blurb in the news last week...something about EA Games putting commercials on their video games. Not just rediculous product placement to the point of distraction, but actual streaming video commercials in cut scenes or in the title cut....anyone else hear about this?


EA Games must be boycotted if thats true.

They put ads in FIFA World Cup 2006, but they're just like the banners you see at a real soccer game. So far I haven't actually seen any blatant out-of-context advertising. Do you know which particular game it was? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


look at THIS (http://www.physorg.com/news76256384.html)

What do you think?...good, or bad? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

As long as they don't datamine me for what type of ads they will display, I would have no problem at all with that. It does add to the immersion in a way, and it doesn't seem to disrupt gameplay. I'd be very much concerned if they mined my PC for my interests or personal data to "custom tailor" advertisements for me. That would be an invasion of privacy.

R_Target
09-04-2006, 09:38 PM
Ouch. ‚£130? They better be showing Benny Hill, Python, Young Ones, and Spitfire footage 24/7 for that kind of money.

BiscuitKnight
09-04-2006, 09:50 PM
Ads in BF2142? Boycotting EA. I don't care if they buy every single computer related industry possible and get a monopoly: I'll just start reading books. If they monopolise books, I'll go for the last resort: a girlfriend http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Electronic Asshats make Ubi and the Boobny Box seem like angels.

LStarosta
09-04-2006, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
I hate all ads with grampas and grandsons. The grampa always wear a ridiculous butterfly tie and a cardigan or a dressing-gown, and also a magnificent moustache and low, Gepetto-like, glasses. And then the kind handsome warm old man gives the immensely cute child a speech about how this or that product has been a tradition in the family since nineteen-something, and his memories when he was a child too and bla bla bla.

The guy just looks as a nobleman who has never nailed a nail in his life, but still talks about hard, handmade work, and bla bla bla, before the mind-absent cute half-******ed smiling kid, and finally smiles the camera as he hugs the boy like a perfect pedophile.

Then I realize I could actually beat an old man.

Werther's Original?

horseback
09-05-2006, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by R_Target:
Ouch. ‚£130? They better be showing Benny Hill, Python, Young Ones, and Spitfire footage 24/7 for that kind of money. That's why British TV is so good-if it weren't, British landfills would be full of televisions, and only the pubs or hotels would have them for sporting events and the like.

But seriously, folks, haven't any of you just said to hell with the bastids, and recorded your favorite shows?

IMHO, Fast Forward is the greatest invention of the twentieth century (although I also think that beer commercials are the highest expression of American art and culture, and will sometimes rewind for a particularly interesting looking one).

cheers

horseback

dazza9806482
09-05-2006, 03:13 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
I hate all ads with grampas and grandsons. The grampa always wear a ridiculous butterfly tie and a cardigan or a dressing-gown, and also a magnificent moustache and low, Gepetto-like, glasses. And then the kind handsome warm old man gives the immensely cute child a speech about how this or that product has been a tradition in the family since nineteen-something, and his memories when he was a child too and bla bla bla.

The guy just looks as a nobleman who has never nailed a nail in his life, but still talks about hard, handmade work, and bla bla bla, before the mind-absent cute half-******ed smiling kid, and finally smiles the camera as he hugs the boy like a perfect pedophile.

Then I realize I could actually beat an old man.

Werther's Original? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Christ yeah, they are fecking weird adverts. Totally worrying implications, or maybe modern journalisim has brainwashed us into thinking every kindly old man is a paedo.

also classic is the advert for bog roll for kids, which at one point has a graphic of a frog wiping its arse.

and i still remember that!!!

Low_Flyer_MkVb
09-05-2006, 02:21 PM
Of note is the fact that three good modern series (Band Of Brothers, Deadwood and Rome) originated from HBO - which I believe is a non-commercial pay per view outfit. (correct me if I'm wrong - not 100% sure)

Compare this to minor-celebrity-chef-flog-your-house-quick-home-video-calamity-gardening shows on overtly commercial stations.

And don't get me started on the dumbing down of news broadcasts...."The education minister, responsible for schools - that's where children go to learn things..." etc...

flockzap
09-05-2006, 04:39 PM
Well... I like this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i-yEL3lAok

and this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du-HWN3gFrA

R_Target
09-05-2006, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
Of note is the fact that three good modern series (Band Of Brothers, Deadwood and Rome) originated from HBO - which I believe is a non-commercial pay per view outfit. (correct me if I'm wrong - not 100% sure)


Correct, and good point. Regular broadcast TV is rarely even worth watching.

DuxCorvan
09-05-2006, 04:46 PM
...And then there are those cosmetics ads... "this takes 20 years off your skin"... "effective 100% against wrinkles"... and the chick using it is, let's say, 19 years old. How the h*** is she eliminating wrinkles she never had? 100% effective, no doubt.

Oh, bullsh*t! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

DxyFlyr
09-05-2006, 06:02 PM
I'm really perplexed about this TV license fee over there. You guys probably shouldn't talk about it too loud or someone over here will be pushing it through congress.

I'm glad to see they offer blind people 50% off. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif That cracks me up for some reason. Where do they come up with this stuff? I'm not making this up. Look at the "Am I entitled to a concession?" link in the TV Licensing link posted above.

Recon_609IAP
09-05-2006, 06:12 PM
I recall when cable came out it was suspose to have less commercials since you were paying for it.

Didn't take long for them to hike up the commercials...along with my bill!

Sorta like commercials now in movie theators - it's really sad

Somebody has to pay those hollywood salaries.

Recon_609IAP
09-05-2006, 06:15 PM
Oh yeah - I forgot - I record all my shows on DVR now.

I hardly watch any commercials nowdays - and I save at least 30 minutes of my life.

LStarosta
09-05-2006, 08:37 PM
I just bought this little box that lets me rip TV shows onto my computer. I dn what that's worth in terms of commercials, but I think it's pretty sierra hotel.

knightflyte
09-05-2006, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
I hate all ads with grampas and grandsons. The grampa always wear a ridiculous butterfly tie and a cardigan or a dressing-gown, and also a magnificent moustache and low, Gepetto-like, glasses. And then the kind handsome warm old man gives the immensely cute child a speech about how this or that product has been a tradition in the family since nineteen-something, and his memories when he was a child too and bla bla bla.

The guy just looks as a nobleman who has never nailed a nail in his life, but still talks about hard, handmade work, and bla bla bla, before the mind-absent cute half-******ed smiling kid, and finally smiles the camera as he hugs the boy like a perfect pedophile.

Then I realize I could actually beat an old man.

Werther's Original? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



OMG I was thinking the exact same commercial.....