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pettera
12-20-2004, 06:41 AM
My old MS SW needs recalibration all the time so I guess this is a sign of something coming...

So what should I buy? Is FF necessary and/or nice? Price is of course an issue but not critical (outrules the Cougar). Below is a list with approximate prices (Prices are actually in NOK Norwegian kroner) from a net-shop:

Logitech Cordless Freedom 2.4 Joystick: 50"
Logitech Extreme 3D PRO Joy-/flightstick, 30"
Saitek Cyborg 3D Stick EVO, 40"
Saitek Cyborg 3D Stick EVO Force Force Feedback, 70"
Saitek Cyborg 3D Stick EVO Wireless, 60"
Saitek ST290 PRO Joystick 30"
Saitek X45 Digital Joystick & Throttle 75"
Saitek X52 Digital Joystick & Throttle, 120"
Thrustmaster Force Feedback Joystick, 60"
Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar 320"
Thrustmaster Joystick USB, 17"
Thrustmaster Tacticalboard USB, 50"
Thrustmaster Top Gun AfterBurner FFB, 80"
Thrustmaster Top Gun AfterBurner II, 46"
Thrustmaster Top Gun Fox 2 Pro USB, 27"

To me the X45 and the X52 looks like two nice sticks. Is the price difference worth it or should I go for something completely different?

Any advices are welcome.

Thanks
Petter

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
12-20-2004, 06:48 AM
Well I am using x45 and its a great stick although I have managed to bugger the pot on the throttle some how so I guess one argument against it is it dont like being treated to rough.

X52 looks good but I don't dig the idea of a twisting throttle now that I am used to rudder pedals.

Ps if you dont have or dont intend to get rudder pedals I would go for the x52 as twist is way more appealing than the rocker switch on the x45 (main reason I now use ch pro pedals)

I think alot depends on how often you fly what style you like to employ (yank and bank /boom and zoom) and how much cash you can handel blowing on your hobby http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Tully__
12-20-2004, 06:59 AM
Evo (basic) or X-45 at that set of price balances. The Topgun FFB may be worth a look too, if you can have an oppurtunity to try one before handing over the money.

FFB is a personal thing. Some feel they can't fly without it, others think FFB as implemented with current tech is not realistic enough to be worth it.

RedSpar
12-20-2004, 07:13 AM
Look at this thread: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=3021038352


X-52 is the most bang for buck IMO.

pettera
12-20-2004, 07:31 AM
Pedals are out of the question - my wife would dump me. She is real and IL2 is a simulation so I go for the real thing. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I haven't seen any of these sticks in any shop here in Norway so I have to shop on your advice. I am used to twisting the stick to use rudders. Is this the same with the all the sticks or is the X45 different?

Thanks
Petter

RedSpar
12-20-2004, 07:35 AM
The X45 uses a paddle type rudder on the front of the throttle lever. Some people hate it some people love it.

Udidtoo
12-20-2004, 07:40 AM
The X45 has a rocker switch located middle front of the throttle grip, it has no twist feature. As I have pedals I use mine for rudder trim. Not often used but can be handy for those long slow spiral climbs when you need just that tiny bit of correction to your lead for a deflection shot.

IL2-chuter
12-20-2004, 12:23 PM
I got my pilot's license in 1976 (WOOHOO) and I gotta have FFB (with the game FFB folders properly edited to eliminate the nonsense). I'm thinking about replacing my much worn M$ FFB 2 stick with the Thrustmaster Top Gun Afterburner FFB. I prefer twist grip rudder (force of forced habit) to the throttle wrocker thingie, both on this stick. My opinion is the one I value most (force of habit, again), so I'll probably go this route . . . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif