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neural_dream
08-25-2005, 07:57 PM
This is the 7th post in a series of topics on the Revised Cockpit Reference Guide that i am working on. It will contain all planes this time so i will share it with you just after the release of the last patch. In these topics i post what i have chosen for the time being to write about each aircraft as side-info to the cockpit reference. This way the experts of this forum will quickly point out errors and maybe offer better alternatives to my words for each aircraft. Do not stick that much to numbers. I offer approximate ones first because you can never be sure with so many conflicting numbers out there, and second because this is a compact guide and shouldn't waste precious space by adding all speeds for every model of a plane if they are very similar. Still if you find that there are important inconsistencies please tell me so before i "release" the guide next month.

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Messerschmitt BF 109E "Emil" (`40-`41)
The Messerschmitt BF 109 was destined to become one of the history's greatest fighter aircraft. Although figures vary it is generally accepted that over 30000 of all variants were produced until 1945. BF stands for Bayerische Flugzeugwerke, the company's name before Willi Messerschmitt took over). It first flew in 1935, some months before the Spitfire and
it was first tried in combat in the Spanish civil war with impressive success. The Bf109E \Emil" with which the Germans entered WW2 was superior to all its opponents except maybe the Spitfire. The E4 and E7/Z versions were fighters, while the E4/B and E7/B were fighter-bombers (Jabo).
Maximum Speed (4/4B/7B): 470/445/479/475km/h at sea level and 543/511/552/590km/h at 4700m
(6450m for the 7Z). Turn time 21.5s at 1000m.
Tips:
¦ The "Emil" starts losing parts at 830km/h.
¦ The E7/Z has a nitrous oxide boost (GM-1) which should be used only in emergencies and never below 6500m. Theoretically it could increase the speed by up to 80km/h.
Armament:
Bf109E: nose - 2x7.92mm MG17 (1000rpg/66sec), wings - 2x20mm MG FF/M(60rpg/7sec)
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Messerschmitt BF 109F "Friedrich" or "Franz" (`41)
The "Friedrich" differed from the "Emil" in having a cleaned-up airframe, redesigned engine cowling, wing, radiators and tail assembly. It was superior in most respects to the Spitfire MkV of the RAF.
Maximum Speed (F2/F4): 510/519km/h at sea level and 614/637km/h at 5200/5800m.
Turn time 19.5s at 1000m.
Tips:
¦ Like most Bf109s the "Friedrich" has simple controls, high manoeuvrability and great climb rate.
¦ It will start disintegrating at around 860km/h.
Armament:
BF109F-2: nose - 2x7.92mm MG17 (500rpg/33sec), engine - 1x15mm MG151 (200rpg/17sec)
BF109F-4: nose - 2x7.92mm MG17 (500rpg/33sec), engine - 1x20mm MG151/20 (200rpg/16sec)
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Messerschmitt BF 109G "Gustav" (`42-`44)
The Gustav was the most numerous variant of the BF109 and stayed as the main type until the end of the war.
Maximum Speed (G2/G6/G6late/G6AS/G14/G10): 530/525/530/530/568/573km/h at sea level and
655/634/640/640/666/698km/h at 7000m (at 6000m for G14 and G10).
Turn time 19.6s at 1000m. Climb to 6000m in 6.1mins.
Tips:
¦ Not the best in any category, but the G-10 is a great overall fighter and favorite plane of many virtual pilots.
¦ Like all Bf109s the "Gustavs" are exceptional at handling their speed; they can slow down
and accelerate very quickly.
¦ The "Gustav" starts disintegrating before 900km/h.
Armament:
BF109G-2: nose - 2x7.92mm MG17 (500rpg/33sec), engine - 1x20mm MG151 (200rpg/16sec),
wings gunpods - 2x20mm MG 151/20 (135rpg/11sec)
BF109G-6: nose - 2x13mm MG131 (300rpg/21sec), engine - 1x20mm MG151/20 (200rpg/16sec), engine - 1x30mm Mk108 (65rpg/6sec), wings gunpods - 2x20mm MG151/20(135rpg/11sec), 2x30mm Mk108 (35rpg/4sec)
BF109G-14: nose - 2x13mm MG131 (300rpg/22sec), engine - 1x30mm Mk108 (65rpg/6sec),
wings gunpods - 2x20mm MG151/20(135rpg/11sec), 2x30mm Mk108 (35rpg/4sec)
BF109G-10: nose - 2x13mm MG131 (300rpg/21sec), engine - 1x30mm Mk108 (65rpg/6sec),
wings gunpods - 2x20mm MG151/20(140rpg/11sec), 2x30mm Mk108 (35rpg/4sec)
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Messerschmitt BF 109K4 "Kurfurst" (`44)
The "Kurfurst" has several aerodynamic changes over the "Gustav". The tail wheel is fully retractable and the wheel wells are fully covered to reduce drag. The result is improved speed and improved climb rate.
Maximum speed: 582km/h at sea level and 720km/h at 5900m. Climb to 6400m in 5.6mins.
Service Ceiling: 12000m. Turn time 20s at 1000m.
Tips:
¦ Mixture and supercharger generally do not need human intervention; they are automatic (in all BF109s).
¦ Max speed before disintegration is around 900km/h and fastest climb around 280km/h.
¦ The MW50 boost should be turned on/off only on low RPMs (many switch it on before take-off).
The fluid starts working only over 100% power and will last around 26mins.
¦ In overheat condition the engine gets damaged after around 5mins.
¦ The K-4 is particularly diffcult to control and change direction while in steep high-speed dives. However, you can set combat flaps at any speed without flap damage.
¦ Like most BF109s the K-4 is a very unstable gun platform at low speeds.
Armament:
Bf109K-4: nose - 2x13mm MG131 (300rpg/21sec), engine - 1x30mm MK108 (65rpg/6sec),
wings gunpods - 2x20mm MG151/20 (135rpg/11sec), wings gunpods - 2x30mm MK108 (60rpg/6sec).
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Messerschmitt BF 109Z "Zwilling" (`44)
The WZwilling" was designed as a heavy interceptor, by joining two BF109s together to achieve good flight characteristics and good armament. However, it never entered production. The prototype was ready in 1943 but was destroyed in one of the Allied raids.
Maximum Speed: 600km/h at sea level and 740km/h at 8000m. Service Ceiling 11700m.
Tips:
¦ The Zwilling starts disintegrating at around 830km/h.
Armament:
BF109Z: engines - 2x30 mm Mk108 (65rpg/6sec), wings - 2x30mm Mk108 (35rpg/4sec), center wing gunpod - 1x30mm Mk103 (35rpg/5sec).
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Messerschmitt BF 110G2 "Zerstorer" (`42)
The Bf110 originally was designed as a strategic fighter that would clear the way for the bomber formations that followed. The BF110s made their presence felt during the early part of the Battle of Britain when the Luftwaffe began their attacks on the Channel convoys. After a while they started meeting Hurricanes and Spitfires and their losses rose quickly, since it wasn't sufficiently manoeuvrable to face single-engine fighters.
Maximum speed: 510km/h at sea level, 570km/h at 5000m and 595km/h at 7300m.
Service Ceiling: 11000m.
Tips:
¦ The BF110G2 starts losing parts at speeds higher than 720km/h.
¦ Avoid facing enemy single-engine fighters. It has good maximum speed which can save it from Hurricanes, but not from Spitfires. You should avoid turning at all costs. Forcing the BF110 to turn was the main tactic used by the Hurricanes against the earlier version of the "Zerstorer" during the Battle of Britain.
Armament:
Bf110G-2: nose - 4x7.92mm MG17 (1006rpg/66sec on average) or 2x30mm Mk108 (135rpg/12sec), nose - 2x20mm MG151/20 (left 350rpg/28sec, right - 300rpg/24sec), belly gunpod - 1x dual 20mm MG151/20 (200rpg/16sec) or 1x37mm Bk3.7 (72rpg/54sec), rear gunner - 1x7.92mm MG81Z.
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- How to choose your late-war Bf109?

The K4 is the fastest and best climber but overheats quite quickly. The G6/AS is the most agile and has better rearward visibility. The G10 is a compromise between those two. It was an attempt to bring older, repairable Gustavs up to the standard of the K-4 in the cheapest manner possible. These three are the most popular BF109 models online.
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neural_dream
08-25-2005, 07:57 PM
This is the 7th post in a series of topics on the Revised Cockpit Reference Guide that i am working on. It will contain all planes this time so i will share it with you just after the release of the last patch. In these topics i post what i have chosen for the time being to write about each aircraft as side-info to the cockpit reference. This way the experts of this forum will quickly point out errors and maybe offer better alternatives to my words for each aircraft. Do not stick that much to numbers. I offer approximate ones first because you can never be sure with so many conflicting numbers out there, and second because this is a compact guide and shouldn't waste precious space by adding all speeds for every model of a plane if they are very similar. Still if you find that there are important inconsistencies please tell me so before i "release" the guide next month.

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Messerschmitt BF 109E "Emil" (`40-`41)
The Messerschmitt BF 109 was destined to become one of the history's greatest fighter aircraft. Although figures vary it is generally accepted that over 30000 of all variants were produced until 1945. BF stands for Bayerische Flugzeugwerke, the company's name before Willi Messerschmitt took over). It first flew in 1935, some months before the Spitfire and
it was first tried in combat in the Spanish civil war with impressive success. The Bf109E \Emil" with which the Germans entered WW2 was superior to all its opponents except maybe the Spitfire. The E4 and E7/Z versions were fighters, while the E4/B and E7/B were fighter-bombers (Jabo).
Maximum Speed (4/4B/7B): 470/445/479/475km/h at sea level and 543/511/552/590km/h at 4700m
(6450m for the 7Z). Turn time 21.5s at 1000m.
Tips:
¦ The "Emil" starts losing parts at 830km/h.
¦ The E7/Z has a nitrous oxide boost (GM-1) which should be used only in emergencies and never below 6500m. Theoretically it could increase the speed by up to 80km/h.
Armament:
Bf109E: nose - 2x7.92mm MG17 (1000rpg/66sec), wings - 2x20mm MG FF/M(60rpg/7sec)
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Messerschmitt BF 109F "Friedrich" or "Franz" (`41)
The "Friedrich" differed from the "Emil" in having a cleaned-up airframe, redesigned engine cowling, wing, radiators and tail assembly. It was superior in most respects to the Spitfire MkV of the RAF.
Maximum Speed (F2/F4): 510/519km/h at sea level and 614/637km/h at 5200/5800m.
Turn time 19.5s at 1000m.
Tips:
¦ Like most Bf109s the "Friedrich" has simple controls, high manoeuvrability and great climb rate.
¦ It will start disintegrating at around 860km/h.
Armament:
BF109F-2: nose - 2x7.92mm MG17 (500rpg/33sec), engine - 1x15mm MG151 (200rpg/17sec)
BF109F-4: nose - 2x7.92mm MG17 (500rpg/33sec), engine - 1x20mm MG151/20 (200rpg/16sec)
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Messerschmitt BF 109G "Gustav" (`42-`44)
The Gustav was the most numerous variant of the BF109 and stayed as the main type until the end of the war.
Maximum Speed (G2/G6/G6late/G6AS/G14/G10): 530/525/530/530/568/573km/h at sea level and
655/634/640/640/666/698km/h at 7000m (at 6000m for G14 and G10).
Turn time 19.6s at 1000m. Climb to 6000m in 6.1mins.
Tips:
¦ Not the best in any category, but the G-10 is a great overall fighter and favorite plane of many virtual pilots.
¦ Like all Bf109s the "Gustavs" are exceptional at handling their speed; they can slow down
and accelerate very quickly.
¦ The "Gustav" starts disintegrating before 900km/h.
Armament:
BF109G-2: nose - 2x7.92mm MG17 (500rpg/33sec), engine - 1x20mm MG151 (200rpg/16sec),
wings gunpods - 2x20mm MG 151/20 (135rpg/11sec)
BF109G-6: nose - 2x13mm MG131 (300rpg/21sec), engine - 1x20mm MG151/20 (200rpg/16sec), engine - 1x30mm Mk108 (65rpg/6sec), wings gunpods - 2x20mm MG151/20(135rpg/11sec), 2x30mm Mk108 (35rpg/4sec)
BF109G-14: nose - 2x13mm MG131 (300rpg/22sec), engine - 1x30mm Mk108 (65rpg/6sec),
wings gunpods - 2x20mm MG151/20(135rpg/11sec), 2x30mm Mk108 (35rpg/4sec)
BF109G-10: nose - 2x13mm MG131 (300rpg/21sec), engine - 1x30mm Mk108 (65rpg/6sec),
wings gunpods - 2x20mm MG151/20(140rpg/11sec), 2x30mm Mk108 (35rpg/4sec)
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Messerschmitt BF 109K4 "Kurfurst" (`44)
The "Kurfurst" has several aerodynamic changes over the "Gustav". The tail wheel is fully retractable and the wheel wells are fully covered to reduce drag. The result is improved speed and improved climb rate.
Maximum speed: 582km/h at sea level and 720km/h at 5900m. Climb to 6400m in 5.6mins.
Service Ceiling: 12000m. Turn time 20s at 1000m.
Tips:
¦ Mixture and supercharger generally do not need human intervention; they are automatic (in all BF109s).
¦ Max speed before disintegration is around 900km/h and fastest climb around 280km/h.
¦ The MW50 boost should be turned on/off only on low RPMs (many switch it on before take-off).
The fluid starts working only over 100% power and will last around 26mins.
¦ In overheat condition the engine gets damaged after around 5mins.
¦ The K-4 is particularly diffcult to control and change direction while in steep high-speed dives. However, you can set combat flaps at any speed without flap damage.
¦ Like most BF109s the K-4 is a very unstable gun platform at low speeds.
Armament:
Bf109K-4: nose - 2x13mm MG131 (300rpg/21sec), engine - 1x30mm MK108 (65rpg/6sec),
wings gunpods - 2x20mm MG151/20 (135rpg/11sec), wings gunpods - 2x30mm MK108 (60rpg/6sec).
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Messerschmitt BF 109Z "Zwilling" (`44)
The WZwilling" was designed as a heavy interceptor, by joining two BF109s together to achieve good flight characteristics and good armament. However, it never entered production. The prototype was ready in 1943 but was destroyed in one of the Allied raids.
Maximum Speed: 600km/h at sea level and 740km/h at 8000m. Service Ceiling 11700m.
Tips:
¦ The Zwilling starts disintegrating at around 830km/h.
Armament:
BF109Z: engines - 2x30 mm Mk108 (65rpg/6sec), wings - 2x30mm Mk108 (35rpg/4sec), center wing gunpod - 1x30mm Mk103 (35rpg/5sec).
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Messerschmitt BF 110G2 "Zerstorer" (`42)
The Bf110 originally was designed as a strategic fighter that would clear the way for the bomber formations that followed. The BF110s made their presence felt during the early part of the Battle of Britain when the Luftwaffe began their attacks on the Channel convoys. After a while they started meeting Hurricanes and Spitfires and their losses rose quickly, since it wasn't sufficiently manoeuvrable to face single-engine fighters.
Maximum speed: 510km/h at sea level, 570km/h at 5000m and 595km/h at 7300m.
Service Ceiling: 11000m.
Tips:
¦ The BF110G2 starts losing parts at speeds higher than 720km/h.
¦ Avoid facing enemy single-engine fighters. It has good maximum speed which can save it from Hurricanes, but not from Spitfires. You should avoid turning at all costs. Forcing the BF110 to turn was the main tactic used by the Hurricanes against the earlier version of the "Zerstorer" during the Battle of Britain.
Armament:
Bf110G-2: nose - 4x7.92mm MG17 (1006rpg/66sec on average) or 2x30mm Mk108 (135rpg/12sec), nose - 2x20mm MG151/20 (left 350rpg/28sec, right - 300rpg/24sec), belly gunpod - 1x dual 20mm MG151/20 (200rpg/16sec) or 1x37mm Bk3.7 (72rpg/54sec), rear gunner - 1x7.92mm MG81Z.
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- How to choose your late-war Bf109?

The K4 is the fastest and best climber but overheats quite quickly. The G6/AS is the most agile and has better rearward visibility. The G10 is a compromise between those two. It was an attempt to bring older, repairable Gustavs up to the standard of the K-4 in the cheapest manner possible. These three are the most popular BF109 models online.
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neural_dream
08-25-2005, 08:01 PM
Tomorrow the P-40s.

and forgive me for not putting umlauts.


The previous posts:
6. Ki84, Ki100: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/9451054943
5. I16, I153, I185: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/2921071943
4. Stukas,He111: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/3011097843
3. La5,La7: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/9311023843
2. CR42,G50: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/5971000843
1. Ki43,61: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/7311047743

Kocur_
08-25-2005, 11:25 PM
Let me add, that Bf-109Z prototype was built using Bf-109F fuselages, so it was not powered by DB-605@ 1475ps, so in game performace of Zwilig is pure fantasy.

neural_dream
08-26-2005, 02:05 AM
True. But i think "never entered production" is enough. A guide shouldn't be cynical.

MLudner
08-26-2005, 10:42 AM
I believe Bf was Bavarische Flugzeugwerke; Bavarian Aircraft Works.

neural_dream
08-26-2005, 11:31 AM
i googled a little bit about that and i see also Bavarianische as a choice, but mainly Bayerische. I speak German but i am not aware of the different dialects, so it could be that they are both correct. Still, the official way is Bayerische. Cheers.

JG52Karaya-X
08-27-2005, 02:51 AM
It's "Bayerische" not "Bavarianische" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif that word simply does not exist... seems to be some translation foul-up as the english word for Bayern is Bavaria.

MLudner
09-14-2005, 04:11 PM
I did not say "BavarIANische". Obviously not correct Deutsche. Bavarische.
But, you are probably correct; I'll try to remember to look it up.

MLudner
09-15-2005, 04:30 PM
Yep. I broke out my big, Webster's New World German Dictionary. Bavarian, in Deutsche, is Bayarische. I was right as to meaning, but not form. That is why I said "I believe", because I knew I might have been mistaken.

I calculate the mistranslation likely occured because someone took the "y" in Bayarische as a "v", thus Bavarische. It's not quite as silly as translating the consonental I in Latin as "J" (considering that sound does not exist in Classical Latin. It should translate as Y, like the Y in yes, or the j in jagdflieger), but wrong none-the-less.
I will never say "Bavarian" again.