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XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 07:09 PM
Oleg, what is your opinion on the beta being leaked already?

I know there are many using it, and was really interested in hearing what you have to say about this?

XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 07:09 PM
Oleg, what is your opinion on the beta being leaked already?

I know there are many using it, and was really interested in hearing what you have to say about this?

Buzz_25th
11-04-2003, 07:24 PM
Unbelievable.

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XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 09:17 PM
Hey Buzz, this might be interesting hehe...maybe Oleg leaked it. Maybe he's gonna blast us all for using it. Maybe the guy who really leaked it has already been found by KGB and is on his way to Siberia. Maybe Ma Kettle's underwear is tin...who knows.../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 09:27 PM
Beautiful Pic Mr. Buzz , But it took forever to open this simple post due to it's size , Thank You

XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 09:33 PM
His silence tells everything... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Buzz_25th
11-04-2003, 09:38 PM
Actually, oleg has already commented on the leaked patch. he sounded pretty pi$$ed off, and said the beta team would be modified in the future.



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XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 10:09 PM
Oleg, don't count on me. I only install finished and polished things in my HD... except Windows. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 10:15 PM
Personally, I downloaded it, and I am trying not to use it. I feel that I should wait for the real patch to come out. The only thing I've done with it is set up waypoints for the B-17 and P-51 for my new movie on one of the new maps. I tried out some of the planes. That's all I've done with it. However, I find that the final release is really more worth it. I wouldn't mind if Oleg delayed the patch, because after all, we do deserve it. We're a bunch of greedy b@st@rds anyway. I'm opening a new thread to formally apologize.

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 01:24 AM
Thats OK Mr. Buzz , I accept your apology and I will try to understand your Usual Childish Ignorance in your post's and Reluctance to follow the rules for your own self Gratification .



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Hi,

Unfortunately signature sizes have got out of hand for some users.

Therefore the following rules will apply for signatures. Could everyone please check their signatures and ensure they meet these new guidelines.

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Buzz_25th
11-05-2003, 01:35 AM
What makes you think you got an apology?../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


btw..Insulting me is against the rules too. A rule that will get you banned. Unlike a large sig. Be careful where you step.

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Message Edited on 11/04/0304:37PM by Buzz_25th

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 02:12 AM
Buzz_25th wrote

Sorry for your crappy connection..


Well Mr. Buzz, I belive you have insulted me.So let's Proceed with your banning from this Forum.

Buzz_25th
11-05-2003, 02:17 AM
Calling someone childish and ignorant because their sig is too big is the same as saying you have a crappy connection? Seems to me I insulted your connection not you. Was your connections feelings hurt?

Pushing this any further is probably not a good idea.

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 02:18 AM
/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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ZG77_Nagual
11-05-2003, 02:22 AM
Buzz is a poopoo head

all better now

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 02:54 AM
Mr. Buzz , Mr. Buzz , Mr. Buzz . tsk . tsk . tsk .

Your anger towards your fellow boarders is overwhelming , And your Selfishness and Discrimintory actions towards those people who have less of a connection than yourself is emence .
I can only contribute this to a very lonely and pitiful life , So I will Pray for you - Sir .

And besides my work here is done ,Your sig is now within limits - Good Day Sir and GOD Bless You , May you find Happiness.

Buzz_25th
11-05-2003, 03:07 AM
You have a lot to learn if you think i'm angry. Your no more of a concern than swating a mosquito.

My life is just fine also. So much so that I don't have to get my shorts in a knot when I see a big sig.

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Message Edited on 11/04/0306:08PM by Buzz_25th

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 03:35 AM
Pretty weak come back there Buzz !
And don't forget you were breaking the rules about the size of your Sig, and you did threaten the guy with Banishment { Buzz wrote }(A rule that will get you banned. Unlike a large sig. Be careful where you step.)
And you also insulted the guy about his connection. { Buzz Wrote } (Sorry for your crappy connection )

So you might want to lay down your gun's Buzz , Because si-ya seemed very well spoken to me .(unlike me - lol ) and just asked for you to follow the rules, which you have no problem telling everyone else to do .

And this is Olegs room ,So keep your comments about the game .

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 03:39 AM
Buzz you should be banned for calling folks Knuckelhead...
You do it all the time and yet say someone calling you childish should be booted..
Well you are a very childish person ..
He didnt get his shorts in a bunch he told you in plain english that your sig was causing long load times ..did he not ?
You are one of the rudest posters on this board...

Buzz_25th
11-05-2003, 03:56 AM
LOL.. Time to explain again. Anybody who knows me knows my using knucklehead is a joking expression. I usually only say it to friends. Obviously not you guys it seems.

Now for the sig. I knew it was big, and had already stated I was changing it in another thread before this thread was alive. I made very few posts with that sig. What do you guys do when someone posts a large picture? It happens all the time. Do you grind to a halt? I had dial up for years, and got along just fine.

I didn't threaten anybody, but simple pointed out an insult was more serious than a large sig.

If you guys can't tell the difference between fooling around with friends and being rude. You need to get out more. This is a game forum. Game! You know where your supposed to have fun.

I have probably 12000 posts on this forum. I've never gotten one warning. If i'm so rude. Why is that? Maybe is because the mods can tell the difference between fooling around and being serious.

This thread has gotten rediculous over nothing.

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Message Edited on 11/04/03ā 06:57PM by Buzz_25th

Message Edited on 11/04/0306:57PM by Buzz_25th

Hunter82
11-05-2003, 04:19 AM
Buzz is a knucklehead

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Buzz_25th
11-05-2003, 04:25 AM
I rest my case../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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Hunter82
11-05-2003, 04:29 AM
Glad to see you,the house and critters safe out there in Cali Buzz

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Buzz_25th
11-05-2003, 04:33 AM
Yes, I got lucky. The weather changed at the last minute or I would have been burned out for sure. Prayers are answered sometimes.

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 04:56 AM
I do not know you nor do i want to ...I read your posts and most are just to insult ....You say your just joking
but your not ....why did you chime anyway if all you have to say is "Unbelievable"....
If thats all you have to say its obvious your just trying to get something started.....
Thats all you ever do is put posters down or insult them in your sideways style...
But you will try to explane this behavior away so whats the point....
Oh by the way im just kidding also ya thats it im just joking around pfttt...

Hunter82
11-05-2003, 04:59 AM
OK funs over ladies. The 2 parties involved are smart enough to stop...no need to have the peanut gallery chime in now.

There's nothing to see here /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 05:09 AM
I'm not going to sit here and lie. I downloaded the leaked patch. I loved it too.. I play it everyday.When the real one comes out i'm going to download it too. And if the beta team messes up again in 1.3 patch. I'm going to download that too... and enjoy it. My point is, keep the teams in check and if it leaks out, that means someone isn't doing something right. If it's out in the public, I'm downloading it.

Buzz_25th
11-05-2003, 05:11 AM
Weed,

I was refering to calling someone knucklehead, since you brought it up. I only do it with friends. I never said I was joking in this thread, except with Hunter.

I said unbelievable because I thought it was a stupid question. What do you think Oleg thinks about his patch being leaked? It seems pretty obvious to everybody but a few.

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 05:20 AM
Guys - please stop - I was asking Oleg his personel opinion - I did not post this thread for you guys to bash each other - please start you own thread -

Oleg if you are reading this still after all that - please refer to my original question

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 05:20 AM
si-ya wrote:
- Buzz_25th wrote
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- Sorry for your crappy connection..
-
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- Well Mr. Buzz, I belive you have insulted me.So
- let's Proceed with your banning from this Forum.

Buzz_25th wrote:

Calling someone childish and ignorant because their sig is too big is the same as saying you have a crappy connection? Seems to me I insulted your connection not you. Was your connections feelings hurt?

Ummmmmmmmm I know its none of my business....but ...... if you had a hard time getting that pic you DO have a crappy connection.... Nothing wrong with that at all...but it isnt like he slandered you or something..... I'm just sayin...... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif


Getting to the original question though..... I think he would probably be more upset if this were the paid add on. I know I would. This is a free add-on. We can all consider ourselves beta testers. If this were the paid add on and it was leaked like this that would be stealing....and since it is a paid product there are probably (would probably be..) legal actions that could and should be taken. I am sure there would be something like an indicator in the software... a sig or something going ou t to each tester so they could all be held accountable for leaks.
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Buzz_25th
11-05-2003, 05:36 AM
BM357_Disciple

Just in case Oleg doesn't want to repeat what he already said. It looks like that thread got deleted, or i'm blind as a bat.

He sounded very upset about the leaked patch. Very angry with the beta testers/tester who is responsible for the leak. He said there would be changes in the future for the beta tester team. I already said this in this thread already. If you need to have him repeat it again i'm sure it will be the same.

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 05:44 AM
here you go buzz..and welcome back.... Author: Oleg_Maddox
Rank: Creator of IL-2 Sturmovik
Date: 11/03/03 12:20AM




First of all, I don't like the beta testers that distribute the info about not finished product.
I also don't like the people that speak about the things with sarcasm about the work in progress.

The beta releases to the people - testers that to find bugs. They need to report directly to developers, but not to post their thoughs on forums.

In nearest feature we will change our politics of trust to beta testers will select the new team, includeing the small part of old our beta testers that was never speaking to other than our team people. Simple we will select only serious testers, but not these that likes bla-bla-bla...

And for BoB we'll create new team in which we are sure 100%




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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 07:00 AM
thanks

Thats what I was looking for

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 07:15 AM
how do you apply for a beta tester ? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 08:38 AM
hi,
remember the so called re-official patch last time...by 'Ian'
at 'simhq'
in general ...since IL2/FB released ..all byers of this game are in a betatest....

alternative procedure of two steps patchtest in future:
1) betatest 'A' to closed groupe 2) official test beta 'B'

the quality management is up to the developer...and I guess a problem of self criticism of the Maddox team...

remember many old well known problems are not fixed up to now.. ..or?

my two cents to this ...


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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 08:42 AM
This means that we will change the part of beta team in future.

BM357_Disciple wrote:
- Oleg, what is your opinion on the beta being leaked
- already?
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- I know there are many using it, and was really
- interested in hearing what you have to say about
- this?
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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 08:57 AM
hi,

possible procedure ?

1) closed groupe A-version test...and after this ...
2) open B-version test of interest users

just a way to optimize and leave this non serious debate about non official patch..


Oleg_Maddox wrote:
- This means that we will change the part of beta team
- in future.
-
- BM357_Disciple wrote:
-- Oleg, what is your opinion on the beta being leaked
-- already?
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-- I know there are many using it, and was really
-- interested in hearing what you have to say about
-- this?
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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 10:48 AM
I wonder, don't Oleg's beta testers have to sign NDA's?

Hunter82
11-05-2003, 01:23 PM
Yep


AchimT wrote:
- I wonder, don't Oleg's beta testers have to sign
- NDA's?
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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 02:51 PM
For sure the one who leaked it is going to jump right up and take getting kicked from the team.

Probably that one gave it to one friend. Who has a friend, who has a brother and a cousin. And finally someone who feels "free" since they didn't actually make the leak so it must be okay. That's the excuse du jour anyway.

Maybe some good has come of the reports. Some real errors are reported as going to be fixed. Will that change be leaked as well?


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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 02:53 PM
What is the big deal? You can't illegally download freeware!! That's like trying to steal a classified newspaper with "FREE, TAKE ONE" on the front!

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 03:25 PM
Because it's not freeware until it's released by the maker. Just as a story copied from a reporters desk before the final draft and approval is not the same as the FREE paper if only because it does not represent the publisher.

It's out. It's not the end of the world. Just perhaps though a change in attitudes will help in the future? Probably not, rude self interest seems to be the order of the day. Or people can try to see things from some other POV than their own?

BTW, somebody took pics of yer old lady through a peephole camera and put em on the net. She ain't too bad looking but man, help with the diet! The view is free, want a link?


Neal

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 05:04 PM
si-ya wrote:

- let's Proceed with your banning from this Forum
(...)
- Your anger towards your fellow boarders is
- overwhelming ,
- And your Selfishness and Discrimintory actions towards
- those people who have less of a connection than yourself
- is emence .
(...)
- So I will Pray for you - Sir .

That's good! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif I like this guy: real sense of humour! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif He sounds like a priest I had as teacher in School. He was fatty, bald and wore very big glasses. He looked apart when he met a girl in the halls and whispered: "Occasion of sin!" /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

How! Isn't he joking? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Ehem... please, Sir, do not proceed with my banning. Not prepared for Woeful Infamatory Ostracism... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 05:17 PM
Oleg_Maddox wrote:
- This means that we will change the part of beta team
- in future.
-

Ok where do i sign up Oleg? lol /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
I volenteer!

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 05:21 PM
No, you not! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif You wear the word 'Guilty' written on your forehead... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 05:28 PM
Thanks for you response Oleg..

I am assuming that future beta testing should/will be done strictly inhouse - and possibly include Oleg's family members (haha)

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 10:24 PM
That's not always a guarantee...

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XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 12:47 AM
I guess he will hire people and if the stuff gets leaked, fire and sue them all until the guilty one appears. It always work in the movies /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 04:14 AM
does Buzz_25th speak for Oleg now ?

will we all recieve replys from buzz_25th ( even if we dont want too )

if we ask a question to oleg maddox here in the ORR ?

XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 08:22 AM
YO Buzz.............

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