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VikingGrandad
12-05-2007, 07:26 AM
Absolutely outrageous http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Medal collector offers reward in effort to recover 'holy grail' of Victoria Crosses (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article3000142.ece)

Strange how the Australian medals were not taken. Difficult to imagine what the motive is.

geoffwessex
12-05-2007, 07:34 AM
Difficult to imagine anybody being able to sell them on, though there could be rich 'collectors' out there who'd pay up.

That's if the thief/thieves knew what they were looking for. If they didn't know what they were, there could be a chance that they could be returned anonymously. Unless they were complete morons who, when finding they're 'too hot to handle', might think it better to throw them into a lake or something.

lane2512
12-05-2007, 07:45 AM
GITMO the SOBs......really.

What a shame. Unfortunately, here in the U.S., you could take em to any gun show and sell em.

Same kind of people who desecrate headstones and spray paint houses of worship.

Carotio
12-05-2007, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by VikingGrandad:
Difficult to imagine what the motive is.

What? That they stole the medals or that they didn't take the Aussies too?

Celeon999
12-05-2007, 07:51 AM
Yep, read it in the news a few days ago.

Unbelievable http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Stevepine
12-05-2007, 10:17 AM
Its just staggering.

To be awarded the VC is about as hard as it gets. Many of them are awarded postumously and you almost have to perform suicidal acts of bravery in the face of the most extreme danger in order to be awarded this medal.

Some of the accounts of how the victoria cross has been won are just truly unbelievable.

For Brits this medal really is regarded as similar to the holy grail.. reserved for only the very very finest- many of whom now rest in peace

For some one to steal them just leaves you lost for words.

It is defiling the memories of some of the bravest and most selfless people who have ever lived.

Realjambo
12-05-2007, 01:34 PM
I read about this too. Those responsible may feel they understand the 'value' of them, but they will clearly never appreciate their true value. Disgraceful. Whilst they are at it, why don't they just go and dance on the graves of the medals' recipients too? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

VikingGrandad
12-05-2007, 05:32 PM
I'm curious to to know more about how the thieves managed to do it. The article doesn't say much about the security measures in place to prevent the theft of such priceless national treasures.


Originally posted by Carotio:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VikingGrandad:
Difficult to imagine what the motive is.

What? That they stole the medals or that they didn't take the Aussies too? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That they didn't take the Australian medals.

Celeon999
02-16-2008, 07:59 AM
Good news http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



from TVNZ
Medals returned in mint condition
Feb 16, 2008 2:51 PM

The two and a half month hunt for precious medals taken from the country's national army museum is over.

Police announced on Saturday that the 96 medals were recovered on Friday.

The medals, worth several million dollars, were taken from the Waiouru Army Museum in a daring smash and grab raid early on Sunday, December 2.

Among the haul thieves swiped nine Victoria Crosses - including Charles Upham's Victoria Cross and bar for extraordinary bravery in combat in World War II - two George Cross medals and one Albert medal.

Police say an independent third person contacted them several weeks ago saying he could return the medals. He handed the medals, in mint condition, to the police on Friday.

The $300,000 reward money put up by British medal collector Lord Ashcroft and former US marine and Vietnam veteran Tom Sturgess will be transferred to the man's account on Monday.
However, police say they still don't know who stole them.

"The recovery of the medals has certainly narrowed the focus of the investigation. The net is closing and we are working very hard to pull it tight," says Detective Inspector Chris Bensemann.

Police say they have names of suspects they will be investigating and there will be no immunity or support or any reduction in sentence for any offender in return for the medals. However, they have confirmed the third party is not a suspect.

"If that independent third party chooses to identify himself that's his choice but as far as we're concerned we're honouring that agreement," says Bensemann.

For the army, the medals' return is a wish come true.

"It's a tremendous day for all New Zealanders might I say and we're looking forward to receiving the medals back into our care," says the army's deputy chief Brigadier Phil Gibbons.

Family of the medal winners also deeply relieved.

Police say the medals are now under scrutiny by forensic experts and it maybe six weeks before they are returned to the army.

Security at the museum has already been tightened and the military says even more steps will be taken before the medals return.

Police say the investigation into who took the medals will remain vigorous and they still keen to hear from any member of the public who may be able to help.

VikingGrandad
02-16-2008, 09:22 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

That's wonderful news!

Celeon, thanks for posting http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

tuddley3
02-16-2008, 09:56 AM
Whew!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

BlueSabor
02-16-2008, 10:13 AM
Very good news!!

Goose_Green
02-16-2008, 10:22 AM
That really is good news http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif...but I do hope the culprits are brought to justice though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

WilhelmSchulz.
02-16-2008, 11:09 AM
Yea I just found out about this. But Im glad it turned out ok. But there are still 4 medals out there. But what kind of person would do such a thing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Realjambo
02-16-2008, 03:05 PM
The net is closing and we are working very hard to pull it tight

I'd gladly lend my weight to pulling the drawstring of that net - I might even stumble and accidentally put a boot into who ever is found within that net at the same time!

andy3536
02-16-2008, 03:32 PM
That is low, glad to see they got them back.

Dinish
02-16-2008, 10:57 PM
In my city three residents of the same street all won the Victoria Cross, at different times of course. The city renamed the street from Pine Street to Valour Road.