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WilhelmSchulz.-
10-18-2005, 03:59 PM

WilhelmSchulz.-
10-18-2005, 03:59 PM

Maj_Solo
10-18-2005, 04:35 PM
Ja mein freund, go with the IIa, have fun with it for 2 or more cruises. Takes way much time to get around Denmark and things are abit slow in the beginning out there on the ocean IMHO. Also when you get the VII you feeeeeeeeeel the difference, it is HUGE and FAAAAAAAAAAAAAST!!! Woooha!

I have tested Kiel and don't think it is worth it. But what I haven't tested is moving to kiel and grab a IXB earlier. How much earlier can you get one compared to grabbing one at that French airport????

WilhelmSchulz.-
10-18-2005, 05:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Maj_Solo:
How much earlier can you get one compared to grabbing one at that French airport???? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gifWhat???

Kaleun1961
10-18-2005, 05:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Maj_Solo:
Ja mein freund, go with the IIa, have fun with it for 2 or more cruises. Takes way much time to get around Denmark and things are abit slow in the beginning out there on the ocean IMHO. Also when you get the VII you feeeeeeeeeel the difference, it is HUGE and FAAAAAAAAAAAAAST!!! Woooha!

I have tested Kiel and don't think it is worth it. But what I haven't tested is moving to kiel and grab a IXB earlier. How much earlier can you get one compared to grabbing one at that French airport???? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm in December 39 in my new career in a Type II. The IXB is available now, but costs 7500 or so. I've got just over 4000, so I need to put in about two more patrols. Of course, you can always edit the renown and get one sooner.

WilhelmSchulz.-
10-18-2005, 05:40 PM
WHAT!?!?!

blastomatic1759
10-18-2005, 05:47 PM
well my crew would kill me for saying this but, i tend to like the type VII's even though im currently blasting up the oceans in a type IX. the brits almost had me up at the northen tip or ireland , but the crew of U124 blasted one destroyer to the bottom with the deck gun and 3 more with torps. the type VII would been nicer because it got close a few times, but the flower and frog boat is back with a vengence.

Kaleun1961
10-18-2005, 05:48 PM
If you want to get your hands on a IXB, earn the renown or edit your files and give yourself the renown. 7500 required for a IXB in Kiel, in 1939.

If you want to edit your renown, the files are in the folder My Documents\SH3\Careers\Kaleun name. Open 2 files, Careers0 and Patrols0. Scroll down to where you see renown and change the numbers to whatever you want, but make both files the same.

jooo9
10-18-2005, 05:51 PM
IXB in 1939? That must be some mod. I've never seen an IXB in 1939 in my 7 flotille career.

Kaleun1961
10-18-2005, 05:56 PM
Sorry for the incorrect info. The IXB cost 9000 renown, not 7500.

Yup, it is available now if I had the renown. After 4 patrols, my Kaleun has just over 5000 renown. I figure it is going to take two more patrols to rack up the renown needed.

I'm using Real U-boat, harbour traffic, SH3 Commander and some features of UnChange RUb. One of those mods must be making it available in 1939.

JU88
10-18-2005, 08:38 PM
Go for the 7th flotilla it only take 5 mins to get out of kiel in TC at x1024, then you got a VIIB from the word go.

You can barley stretch your fuel supply to make a trip up to scapa flow in a type II out of wilhelmshaven - and when you get there you only got 5 fish to play with. (forget about making it Lock Ewe altogether)

Theres a juicy Nelson BB waiting for you in scapa if you head up there in mid october 39 and maybe a fiji light cruiser aswell. I Think theres another Nelson parked in lock Ewe about the same time.

Trust me - before the french bases become operational its all about the capital war ships docked in scapa and Ewe.

Maj_Solo
10-19-2005, 01:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WilhelmSchulz.-:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Maj_Solo:
How much earlier can you get one compared to grabbing one at that French airport???? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gifWhat??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry I mean the 'port' Lorient. It was my ape brain typing and I was tired ...

RosenbauU73
10-19-2005, 03:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JU88:
You can barley stretch your fuel supply to make a trip up to scapa flow in a type II out of wilhelmshaven - and when you get there you only got 5 fish to play with. (forget about making it Lock Ewe altogether) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hi
You can make from Kiel to the USA coast with the type II and of course with limited fuel I have done it once but takes forever to get there http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gifbut its a one way journey you can make in a type II about 9500-10000km that is what I usualy do with one you have only to manualy change your speed on the speed dial its about 5-6 knts. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

JU88
10-19-2005, 05:15 AM
yeah but all that time and effort spent haulling that duck (type II) half way across the globe, just to expend 5 fish, some of which might miss or be dud, if you play with other realism settings on. Seriously- lifes too short, especially as a Uboat captain. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

W.Irving
10-19-2005, 05:20 AM
Oh.. now I get it. You call the Type II "the duck". Why?

Maj_Solo
10-19-2005, 05:48 AM
Cause it looks like one of those toys you played with in the tub at home when you was a child. splash splash look mommy!

JU88
10-19-2005, 05:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by W.Irving:
Oh.. now I get it. You call the Type II "the duck". Why? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I dunno, because um its... its just duckish.
The aircrews of Hienkel HE-111 bombers used to dub their plane as "the spade" Again this defies the laws of rationality, the heinkel doesn't remotely resemble a gardening tool of any kind, but hey its just for fun.

http://www.histavia21.net/jan05/111kg55dijon-d03.JPG
"Time to do some gardenning..."

http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/albums/album02/type_11_u_boat.jpg
Quack Quack!!!

W.Irving
10-19-2005, 06:11 AM
They didn't call it "der Einbaum" for nothing..


So stop making up your own pet names, alright? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Kaleun1961
10-19-2005, 12:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JU88:
Go for the 7th flotilla it only take 5 mins to get out of kiel in TC at x1024, then you got a VIIB from the word go.

You can barley stretch your fuel supply to make a trip up to scapa flow in a type II out of wilhelmshaven - and when you get there you only got 5 fish to play with. (forget about making it Lock Ewe altogether)

Theres a juicy Nelson BB waiting for you in scapa if you head up there in mid october 39 and maybe a fiji light cruiser aswell. I Think theres another Nelson parked in lock Ewe about the same time.

Trust me - before the french bases become operational its all about the capital war ships docked in scapa and Ewe. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have to disagree with you on this point. The key to managing with a Type II is to be conservative with the speed. On my last patrol, out of Kiel, I sailed over to AM38. While there I ducked into Lock Ewe, but it was empty. The weather conditions were appalling, rain and fog for the whole patrol. Despite the weather, by using submerged sound checks I was able to contact a number of merchants. I sank 2 large cargo vessels and a small merchant for a patrol tonnage of 17,559.

I usually sail out at about 7 knots for the voyage out to the patrol zone. In the patrol area I sail at 5 or 6 knots. I only go to flank speed if I have to chase a target. If the weather is bad, I spend a lot of time submerged. In a type II, it is best to purchase the upgraded batteries, which take less time to charge, as well as the better hydrophones when they are available. Most of my patrols end when I am out of torpedoes, not fuel. On the way home I sail at about 7 knots, less if fuel is getting low.

The duck boats are indeed challenging, because of the fuel supply and having only 5 torpedoes. By necessity you will be hunting single shipping or harbour raiding. In one career, I had a Kaleun who earned the Knight's Cross entirely in a Type II, sinking about 80,000 tons.

For those who hate the duck boats, I do agree with you to start with the 7B at Wilhelmshaven.

WilhelmSchulz.-
10-19-2005, 01:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by W.Irving:
They didn't call it "der Einbaum" for nothing..


So stop making up your own pet names, alright? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Well if you want to get all tecnical. *get's out usless booklet* The "einbaum"(or dugout canoe) was the first post WWI U-Boat. with a total tonege of 303 tons it was quite small. The U.S boats like this(ex. the S and R boats) where called "pig boats".
Now we call them Duck boats and it stuck. So SHOVE THAT UP YOUR STERN TUBE!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

JU88
10-19-2005, 01:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">SHOVE THAT UP YOUR STERN TUBE!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Kaleun1961
10-19-2005, 02:47 PM
My current Kaleun, Georg Winter, is in port at Kiel, about to set out on patrol 5. He has been promoted to Oberleutnant zur See, holds awards up to IC, 1st Class and has after 4 patrols a tonnage score of 48,795. My only concession to difficulty is that I use map updates and auto-targeting. I usually ignore single ship updates on the map as I regard these as being unrealistic. I do not think it is fair that I can see all these wonderfully magical ship reports pop up on my map when I am sailing so far from home. I find most of my targets by first sighting them visually or by means of hydrophone checks.

Kaleun1961
10-19-2005, 07:45 PM
Georg Winter is now a Kapitan Leutnant, holder of the Knight's Cross, after 6 patrols and 84,694 tons. He is now going to take command of a IXB.

See, it can be done in a duck boat.

WilhelmSchulz.-
10-19-2005, 07:51 PM
But a lot longer.