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Fokker_Fodder
06-06-2009, 10:09 PM
I set up my own little Battle of France scenario, and I've noticed that at some point, I hear this "honking" like an alarm in my cockpit. What the heck is it? Thx!

WTE_Galway
06-06-2009, 10:18 PM
Its probably an alarm as you guessd.

I suspect its the one thats tells you to raise the flaps because you are going to fast for takeoff flaps and might damage them. Raise the gear while you at it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ba5tard5word
06-06-2009, 10:23 PM
Any time you have flaps down with the landing gear up in a 109, it makes some alarm noise (that "honking"). I guess it's to remind the pilot the flaps are down--if you forget and fly too fast the flaps will get jammed which is annoying.

Waldo.Pepper
06-07-2009, 12:40 AM
A Spitfire.

K_Freddie
06-07-2009, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
A Spitfire.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Now you how advanced German technology was.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

berg417448
06-07-2009, 09:42 AM
It is an alarm to remind the pilot that although his flaps are down, his landing gear is still up...and that will make for a rather embarrassing landing!

stalkervision
06-07-2009, 09:56 AM
your all wrong.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

German military equipment was frequently moved on the "autobahn" The 109 was no exception. It was specifically designed with this in mind. It's wings were made to be removable for easy transportation and moving.

the military conjectured before the war that many times airfields would be unusable due to allied bombing. The 109 could actually be "driven" using it's steerable tail wheel on paved roads such as the autobahn to safer non threatened locations for it's operation.

The horn was added to the early 109's because it was feared without one there would be many accidents between the german motoring public and the aircraft when it used this little known feature.

By accidentally manipulating the joystick in a certain way you can accidentally activate this horn.

oleg actually included this horn feature in the sim but never finished modeling the wings removed drivable "autobahn mode". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

jamesblonde1979
06-07-2009, 10:05 AM
It's one of the first recorded attempts at an early warning system. Several geese were installed in the cockpit to alert the pilot with their honking whenever he was in danger. Given that you are in an Emil and likely to encounter Spitfires they start honking after takeoff and continue until you put the gear back down for landing.

general_kalle
06-07-2009, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
A Spitfire.

they were working on implementing a early type of native betty in the plane to shout ACTHUNG SPITFIRE
25 times every minute when 1 was around but then the americans entered the war and the prospect of having to make her shout all those different planes were too much for the sciencistst so they gave up on it.

danjama
06-07-2009, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by stalkervision:
your all wrong.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

German military equipment was frequently moved on the "autobahn" The 109 was no exception. It was specifically designed with this in mind. It's wings were made to be removable for easy transportation and moving.

the military conjectured before the war that many times airfields would be unusable due to allied bombing. The 109 could actually be "driven" using it's steerable tail wheel on paved roads such as the autobahn to safer non threatened locations for it's operation.

The horn was added to the early 109's because it was feared without one there would be many accidents between the german motoring public and the aircraft when it used this little known feature.

By accidentally manipulating the joystick in a certain way you can accidentally activate this horn.

oleg actually included this horn feature in the sim but never finished modeling the wings removed drivable "autobahn mode". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

is this a joke?

trumper
06-07-2009, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stalkervision:
your all wrong.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

German military equipment was frequently moved on the "autobahn" The 109 was no exception. It was specifically designed with this in mind. It's wings were made to be removable for easy transportation and moving.

the military conjectured before the war that many times airfields would be unusable due to allied bombing. The 109 could actually be "driven" using it's steerable tail wheel on paved roads such as the autobahn to safer non threatened locations for it's operation.

The horn was added to the early 109's because it was feared without one there would be many accidents between the german motoring public and the aircraft when it used this little known feature.

By accidentally manipulating the joystick in a certain way you can accidentally activate this horn.

oleg actually included this horn feature in the sim but never finished modeling the wings removed drivable "autobahn mode". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

is this a joke? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No it's quite true

Ba5tard5word
06-07-2009, 03:04 PM
But the horn only goes off when your landing gear is up. It would be hard to drive down the autobahn with your landing gear up, though it would give you better visibility.

DuxCorvan
06-07-2009, 03:06 PM
It's the microwave timer. Search under the dashboard for a hot Bratwurst and choucrut.

stalkervision
06-07-2009, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Ba5tard5word:
But the horn only goes off when your landing gear is up. It would be hard to drive down the autobahn with your landing gear up, though it would give you better visibility.

It's just a "bug" that oleg ment to correct in later patches when he finished this unique feature of the 109.

want to know the german name for the horn?

It's "Straßenreisenhorn"

Rumor has it this feature might be in SOW though! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

slipBall
06-07-2009, 03:25 PM
If you were to ask this question in SOW, I would suspect a flock of geese indicating their desire to pass http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

stalkervision
06-07-2009, 03:32 PM
The germans made some amazingly advanced and seemingly strange stuff. Before the german's canceled their strategic 4 engined bomber program they invented something that has made the space program possible and very long distance operation of military aircraft feasible.

The "Lange Entfernungspilotwindel"

I wonder what the space program called it? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

R_Target
06-07-2009, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by stalkervision:
I wonder what the space program called it? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Well, that Depends...... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Tully__
06-07-2009, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by berg417448:
It is an alarm to remind the pilot that although his flaps are down, his landing gear is still up...and that will make for a rather embarrassing landing!
This one is the correct answer.

All you other guys, very funny but not very understanding for a newcomer to the sim/forums http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Fokker_Fodder
06-07-2009, 06:52 PM
Thank you all. Tully, I appreciate your clearing out the chaff, but I have to admit that the idea of driving down the autobahn while cooking bratwurst did strike me as funny!

Happy flying, one and all! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

stalkervision
06-07-2009, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by R_Target:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stalkervision:
I wonder what the space program called it? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Well, that Depends...... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

...depends on what? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

stalkervision
06-07-2009, 07:49 PM
baby you can fly my car... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ture=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abrL9dCp6HU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.static.mentalfloss.com%2Fb logs%2Farchives%2F24763.html&feature=player_embedded)

stalkervision
06-07-2009, 08:05 PM
Psss I fibbed about the horn. A horn was considered in this use but it was soon realized there was no need for a horn since the 109 was equipped with machine guns and they could be used for instant civilian traffic control.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

............................................

welcome to the forums Fokker_Fodder

glad you enjoyed our fun-ning you.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Feathered_IV
06-07-2009, 08:47 PM
I is dat honky in dee cockpit. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Uufflakke
06-08-2009, 07:13 AM
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/Honk.jpg

DuxCorvan
06-08-2009, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by Tully__:
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/scared_kid.gif

Tully__
06-09-2009, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tully__:
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/scared_kid.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Romanator21
06-09-2009, 05:20 PM
This is not totally related to the Emil, but another sound question that I have: After I land and turn off the engine, sometimes I hear a ticking, most likely the clock, and also some high pitched ringing like you hear after a loud noise. Is this modeling what you would experience after sitting behind that roaring engine for some time?

stalkervision
06-09-2009, 05:26 PM
well the ticking goes back way before 1932 with the invention of the german engine/cam lifter....

can someone more serious then I help this poor guy out.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


hay did anyone notice I got danjama last time.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Hay guys I am building a model reproduction of the "me-109 schlamm-wagon" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Romanator21
06-09-2009, 05:57 PM
well the ticking goes back way before 1932 with the invention of the german engine/cam lifter....

can someone more serious then I help this poor guy out.. Big Grin

Ok thanks for enlightening me, I wasn't able to sleep for quite some time because of this!

Like I said, the ticking is most likely the clock, thanks, but I was really wondering if the high pitched sound was a physiological effect, or something in the aircraft.

ash1976
06-09-2009, 06:04 PM
You may wanna check your sound settings . . . .

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg261/88tigger88/funnies/huge-headphones.jpg


but seriously, this may help for a real world reflection -

Re: P51 - "my earplugs still in my ears. The prop wash and the roar of the Allison were awe-inspiring, thundering even through the ear protection" . . . "That's nothing, man. When you're at full takeoff, this thing'll blow your butt right through that RV parked behind you,"

"Equipment like this is already available for those who maintain jet engines, and other loud equipment (like tanks)." . . . "many "ordinary" sounds of combat are ignored, but they gradually harm your hearing. It's the cumulative effect of more automatic weapons . . . . Vehicles are getting louder because they use larger engines."

How this is modelled in Il2 I can't really comment on, though I can say that engine warm up & down sounds do appear to be modelled well.

stalkervision
06-09-2009, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by Romanator21:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">well the ticking goes back way before 1932 with the invention of the german engine/cam lifter....

can someone more serious then I help this poor guy out.. Big Grin

Ok thanks for enlightening me, I wasn't able to sleep for quite some time because of this!

Like I said, the ticking is most likely the clock, thanks, but I was really wondering if the high pitched sound was a physiological effect, or something in the aircraft. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

why do I never hear these sounds.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

WTE_Galway
06-09-2009, 06:58 PM
Actually I have been told by informed sources that the supposed honking alarm is actually a Bavarian Oompah Band ...


http://www.muskratproductions.com/images/ZANY.JPG

Ba5tard5word
06-09-2009, 09:13 PM
maybe it was practice for the post-war Messerschmitt cars...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Messerschmitt_Kabinenroller.jpg/800px-Messerschmitt_Kabinenroller.jpg

stalkervision
06-09-2009, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by Ba5tard5word:
maybe it was practice for the post-war Messerschmitt cars...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Messerschmitt_Kabinenroller.jpg/800px-Messerschmitt_Kabinenroller.jpg

see I told you so... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif