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doogerie
03-06-2009, 02:04 AM
I was wondering about war games and musems anyone ever thaught about using hydrolicks and a realistic sim(like 1946) to simulate a real bombing run. It could be done with like diffrent screens and a recreated bomber inside and stuff I was in this simulator of a helicopter at this musem i can't rember where anyway like that but a b17 with screens in it instead of just a blank inside. what do you think?

Skoshi Tiger
03-06-2009, 06:08 AM
What you want is B-17 Flying Fortress The Mighty 8TH. You might find it in a bargan bin somewhere.

The graphics are a bit dated (no where near IL2) but it's a serious attempt at a study sim of the B17, and has a fairly good representation of the Norden bomb sight.

You can fly your 8 hour missions into the heart of Germany if you want. It has all the gun stations of the B17 (just try hitting anything froim the cheek or waist guns!!!!), navigation, radio operator, engineer stations etc. And you get a variety of bomb views and a black and white film of the effects of your bomb srun in your debriefing (if I remember correctly!)

Try going over to http://www.bombs-away.net/forums/ and have a look. I used to hang out there (a while back) and theres a good bunch of people over that way. I think they've moved on to other combat flight sims.

Cheers!

Choctaw111
03-06-2009, 07:17 AM
I really enjoyed that game for the most part. It was neat to see the crew walking around the inside of the bomber and interacting with each other. What really got me was when you could order one crew member to help another wounded crew member...and watch him do it, just like in the movies.

Wildnoob
03-06-2009, 07:24 AM
I really like of B-17 flying fortress the migthy eigth sim cited by Skoshi Tiger. bring me back old memories, it was my first fligth sim. it feature many interesting things such as clikable cockpit, be able to choose the bomb type among incendary general purpose and others, but sadly that it's phisic engine is not accurated if the compared to the one from IL2 series. altough this sim came on in 2000. but is still far more better and fun then the so much popular because of the logo of Microsoft in CFS series in my opinion. nothing against Microsoft really, I just don't like their fligth sims. but joysticks are another story. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

you can also fly with figthers: BF-109, FW-190, ME-262 on the axis side P-38, P-47 and P-51 for the allies.

well, check out this Wikipedia article about the sim:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B...ress:_The_Mighty_8th (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-17_Flying_Fortress:_The_Mighty_8th)

I lost my disc of it, may be rare but if I see one for sell I gonna buy. I just love it, even if is outdated. me and thousands of pilot's worldwide keep waiting for a remake.

danjama
03-06-2009, 08:36 AM
Yes pick up B17 somewhere. I still have it installed on my computer but it runs funny like its not compatible with XP. I have the olive mods and everything installed, really loved that game with a passion!

The gunner positions were a real challenge to master, not helped by the fact you couldnt use your mouse to aim!! So i used my joystick. The fighters were poorly modelled too, impossible to fly at all without stalling if you were hit. The only really fun fighter in that game was the FW190 in my opinion. The 51 was ok.

Outlaw---
03-06-2009, 09:04 AM
I believe the OP is talking about a simulated physical B-17 with gun positions (complete with guns you actually hold, not a mouse), cockpit, etc., similar to the Mech Warrior type games you pay a billion dollars an hour to play.

There is nothing technical to prevent this as everything you need is off the shelf. Each position is simply a PC participating in a multi-player game. The only issue is cost.


--Outlaw.

montecristo1981
03-06-2009, 10:12 AM
That game was GREAT. Very realistic.

I remember I named my crew after all my friends and after one mission they were all dead or badly wounded.

The only game ever that made me think about war seriously for half a second.

danjama
03-06-2009, 10:22 AM
You should play Red Orchestra!

I also named my crew after close friends http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I actually completed about 10 missions without losing one of them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Aaron_GT
03-06-2009, 10:23 AM
I believe the OP is talking about a simulated physical B-17 with gun positions (complete with guns you actually hold, not a mouse), cockpit, etc., similar to the Mech Warrior type games you pay a billion dollars an hour to play.There is nothing technical to prevent this as everything you need is off the shelf. Each position is simply a PC participating in a multi-player game. The only issue is cost.

A recreation of the Dam Busters raids was done like this, using MSFS for TV (Channel 4?) a few years back.

montecristo1981
03-07-2009, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by danjama:
You should play Red Orchestra!

I also named my crew after close friends http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I actually completed about 10 missions without losing one of them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Red Orchestra is great, and very realistic. My favourite FPS. But your friends spawn back to life 20 Seconds later.

Choctaw111
03-07-2009, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by danjama:
You should play Red Orchestra!

I also named my crew after close friends http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I actually completed about 10 missions without losing one of them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

That's funny you mention that. I named the entire crew after my grandfather's bomber crew. It made the sim much more real and believable.

doogerie
03-08-2009, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by Outlaw---:
I believe the OP is talking about a simulated physical B-17 with gun positions (complete with guns you actually hold, not a mouse), cockpit, etc., similar to the Mech Warrior type games you pay a billion dollars an hour to play.

There is nothing technical to prevent this as everything you need is off the shelf. Each position is simply a PC participating in a multi-player game. The only issue is cost.


--Outlaw.

yeah thats what i am on about