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RAF238th_Soak
04-15-2006, 04:29 AM

JG4_Helofly
04-15-2006, 04:36 AM
Less than 20 for me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ( 18 )

I started with 15 to play fb 1.0

I think most people are between 20 and 30

Low_Flyer_MkVb
04-15-2006, 05:15 AM
43 last tuesday.

reverendkrv1972
04-15-2006, 05:25 AM
33...and going grey round the edges http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

StG2_Schlachter
04-15-2006, 05:45 AM
21

RCAF_Irish_403
04-15-2006, 05:53 AM
28 and losing my hair

capt_frank
04-15-2006, 06:00 AM
54 today. please send cash.

Feathered_IV
04-15-2006, 06:19 AM
Originally posted by reverendkrv1972:
33...and going grey round the edges http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I started going grey in High school. In the 30-40 group now and I'm the only male in the family who still has hair. Fair trade I guess http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

BrewsterPilot
04-15-2006, 06:50 AM
14 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

panther3485
04-15-2006, 07:01 AM
Quote:
"54 today. please send cash."

If you don't have any spare cash, I'll settle for a few pics of nubile wenches!

Glad I'm not the oldest here (quite)!

As for attracting 'enough of the younger crowd', I'm not sure that sim/games like this will generally appeal to them (of course you will get a few but they'll be in the minority, I reckon). I think 25-45 will be where most of the customers are - as the poll results so far seem to indicate.


Best regards to all,
panther3485

P.S. If you are 30 or 40 yrs old, you've got a choice of two groups to put yourself in????

Chuck_Older
04-15-2006, 07:13 AM
I'm in the 34 to 34 group...and still looking like I did when I was 20 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

timholt
04-15-2006, 07:15 AM
60 in a couple of months. Luckily I have never grown up. Hope to still be playing and flying (aerobatics) in real life at 80.

Chuck_Older
04-15-2006, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by panther3485:
Quote:


As for attracting 'enough of the younger crowd', I'm not sure that sim/games like this will generally appeal to them (of course you will get a few but they'll be in the minority, I reckon). I think 25-45 will be where most of the customers are - as the poll results so far seem to indicate.




Interesting...WWII ended over 60 years ago...so it's the Children of the children of the time interested in WWII simulation of flight?

I'm not sure. I think it has more to do with the cyclic nature of pop culture

Think back 10 years ago, WWII films were just about to become popular again, at least in the US

And when they did, they were more realistic (except for say the stuff John Ford filmed during Midway- that IS real) than anything ever seen. More accessible, more real, and I think that opened the eyes of an entire generation- 'Wow! They actually DID that?? All those guys froze at Stalingrad?? Holy Sh--! All those guys stormed that little beach, and some LIVED?! Wow, how'd they do that???"

Today, I actually hear people tell about grade school from 10 or 15 years ago, and they learned who Hitler was in the 10th grade http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif that's approximately 15 years old, they didn't know who one of the most famous and infamous figures of the 20th century was until they were 15. How much more well known do you need to be?

I think the demographics are more in the lines of:

mechanical interest
adventure
physical and mental contest
historical interest and knowing the past can still teach

panther3485
04-15-2006, 07:42 AM
Interesting point of view, Chuck, and you are of course entitled to it!

For now, I'll stick to mine because I think it's the 'nature of the beast' rather than the things you have raised - but hey, that's just my opinion too!

I'll duck back in a few days and see how the figures are going!

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Best regards,
panther3485

LEBillfish
04-15-2006, 08:30 AM
41, look 71, and feel 93......Unfortunately my maturity remains at 12.........I'm a wreck http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

OldMan____
04-15-2006, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by reverendkrv1972:
33...and going grey round the edges http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I started going grey in High school. In the 30-40 group now and I'm the only male in the family who still has hair. Fair trade I guess http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

pff ... I started getting grey when i was 3 ! When I was 15 my hair was almost completely grey. Why do you think my call name is OldMan?

danjama
04-15-2006, 09:09 AM
Im 18. Cant wait to get old.

heywooood
04-15-2006, 09:11 AM
45 - pretty soon they will be able to put whatever they want in a WWII combat flight sim and call it 'historically accurate'....who's going to know the difference?

OldMan____
04-15-2006, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by panther3485:
Quote:


As for attracting 'enough of the younger crowd', I'm not sure that sim/games like this will generally appeal to them (of course you will get a few but they'll be in the minority, I reckon). I think 25-45 will be where most of the customers are - as the poll results so far seem to indicate.




Interesting...WWII ended over 60 years ago...so it's the Children of the children of the time interested in WWII simulation of flight?

I'm not sure. I think it has more to do with the cyclic nature of pop culture

Think back 10 years ago, WWII films were just about to become popular again, at least in the US

And when they did, they were more realistic (except for say the stuff John Ford filmed during Midway- that IS real) than anything ever seen. More accessible, more real, and I think that opened the eyes of an entire generation- 'Wow! They actually DID that?? All those guys froze at Stalingrad?? Holy Sh--! All those guys stormed that little beach, and some LIVED?! Wow, how'd they do that???"

Today, I actually hear people tell about grade school from 10 or 15 years ago, and they learned who Hitler was in the 10th grade http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif that's approximately 15 years old, they didn't know who one of the most famous and infamous figures of the 20th century was until they were 15. How much more well known do you need to be?

I think the demographics are more in the lines of:

mechanical interest
adventure
physical and mental contest
historical interest and knowing the past can still teach </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its better this way. Before 15 childreen are not trully capable of having strong morale values for a good comprehensions. Most moderns neo-nazi are people that simplathysed for Hitlers ideas while still at very young age. Remember, for a 14 year old boy, someone that killed millions wihtout a good reason is a cool guy.

danjama
04-15-2006, 09:18 AM
My best friend got me into modelling warbirds and WW2 planes when we were about 6 and Memphis Belle was the first film with actual WW2 planes in that id ever seen. I was in love. He was into it because his Dad was ex-RAF. I guess parents and friends are a huge factor in gettin people interested in such a niche (lack of better word) subject. I reckon i owe my interest to him, i dont speak to him nowadays as i moved away from the area at around 10, but if i saw him i would probably have alot to thank him for, and id hope hed still have the same passion as when we were younger.

jensenpark
04-15-2006, 09:36 AM
You need a new option for Blairgowrie:

"older than dirt"

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

ElAurens
04-15-2006, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by danjama:
Im 18. Cant wait to get old.

Wait as long as you can!!!

I'm 52, and wish I was 18, at least as far as my body goes.

But, I'm far more handsome than ever...

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

GreyBeast
04-15-2006, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by OldMan____:
pff ... I started getting grey when i was 3 ! When I was 15 my hair was almost completely grey.

No kidding, is that true? Whoa! Why?

I thought I was "premature", starting to go grey at around 22.

Oh, ...I'm 35.

Cajun76
04-15-2006, 10:31 AM
I just turned 30 last month, so I need the option of changing this. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m.../114103926#114103926 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/114103926/r/114103926#114103926)

OldMan____
04-15-2006, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by GreyBeast:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by OldMan____:
pff ... I started getting grey when i was 3 ! When I was 15 my hair was almost completely grey.

No kidding, is that true? Whoa! Why?

I thought I was "premature", starting to go grey at around 22.

Oh, ...I'm 35. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>]


just genetics. All males in my family have gray hair at very young ages and have dark rown eyes, while all woman have dark brown hair and blue eyes.

CUJO_1970
04-15-2006, 11:57 AM
36 here.

Not long ago I would have considered 36 pretty old http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

waffen-79
04-15-2006, 12:02 PM
Hi

I'm 27 and my hair is already showing some grey, not completely but, but I have some.

I started with original IL-2 back in late 2001.

It's good to see most of us are older than 20 years old.

I have nothing against younger players, after all I was 1 of them, BUT this kind of SIMULATORS can take quite time to master it and adapt to the changes in flight model and stuff.

I think teenagers need to be out, doing sports, studying and dating girls, rather than being ONLINE whining about someone shoting them down and typing everything they do like:

OMG I stalled
You shot me down because I was typing

On the other hand is fun having them around, LOL

regards

bravo6001950
04-15-2006, 12:18 PM
56 in June-or is it July, whersh my teef.Let's not forget oldies will be the biggest, richest demographic in a few years and majority of youth find WWII as interesting as paint drying.

JG4_Helofly
04-15-2006, 01:18 PM
"I have nothing against younger players, after all I was 1 of them, BUT this kind of SIMULATORS can take quite time to master it and adapt to the changes in flight model and stuff.

I think teenagers need to be out, doing sports, studying and dating girls, rather than being ONLINE whining about someone shoting them down and typing everything they do like:

OMG I stalled
You shot me down because I was typing

On the other hand is fun having them around, LOL
"

That's the advantage when you are young, you can do all at the same time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

heywooood
04-15-2006, 01:32 PM
on the other hand - if even a small number of young 'gamers' decide to read a little history or some pilot accounts from the period, or some good ol' airplane books as a result of their exposure to this sim well..thats good.

In the past, pilots - and aeronautical engineers have come from exposure to films and magazine articles or model building....maybe we can now add sims to that list of places.

panther3485
04-15-2006, 10:55 PM
Hi there, heywooood

Good post, mate!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I share your hope, that perhaps a few young folk may be inspired in this way.


Best regards,
panther3485

P.S. Back in the 'old days', even fictional book characters like 'Biggles' stimulated the imaginations of some youngsters, who later took to the air.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
04-15-2006, 11:33 PM
Ohh its time for this old chestnut again is it?

Well I'm 35 years and still acting like a 2 year old. Much Fatter than I was last year but managed to give up smoking so I guess thats a fair trade.

P.S Congrats on your birthday LowFlyer how come you never got the drinks in for the lads in the Fokker? you getting all serious in your old age or something?

mortoma
04-16-2006, 03:12 PM
I turned 48 last month. Anybody got a kleenex??? Sniff, sniff.....I hate growing old.

EyeoftheChicken
04-16-2006, 03:16 PM
22 going on 23

Takata_
04-16-2006, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
41, look 71, and feel 93......Unfortunately my maturity remains at 12.........I'm a wreck http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Same as me on every point but maturity, which here remains at 10. However, I noticed that girls are a bit more advanced, which compensate for being such an exhausting gender.

S~
Takata

SATAN_23rd
04-16-2006, 03:36 PM
I am turning 31 this summer.

BrewsterPilot
04-16-2006, 04:01 PM
I feel so young, like a baby! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

Cheer me up would ya? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

BrewsterPilot
04-16-2006, 04:42 PM
Now why do I get this creepy feeling of Danjama approaching? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

MOH_Hirth
04-16-2006, 09:10 PM
Im SEX MACHINE at 45...

sc1949
04-17-2006, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by danjama:
Im 18. Cant wait to get old.

I'm 56. Can't wait to turn 18.

CD_kp84yb
04-17-2006, 01:33 AM
44 Last tuesday (April 11)

Hahaha it looks like Lowflyer and me are born on the same day.

No grey and still my hair.
In the morning i feel like 80, but when im awake for 30 minutes i start feeling 28 again. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

TC_Stele
04-17-2006, 01:53 AM
Now that I know the age demographic, I'm not surprised that a good majority of the users are very mature. I think thats whats kept me playing the sim. Any other game I've tried in the past I get plastered for being a noob at every corner by teenage know it alls. I'm glad this community is helpful to its members.

LEBillfish
04-17-2006, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by EyeoftheChicken:
22 going on 23

So from that can we assume you're a Mathematician?

blindpugh
04-17-2006, 02:42 AM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by panther3485:
Quote:


As for attracting 'enough of the younger crowd', I'm not sure that sim/games like this will generally appeal to them (of course you will get a few but they'll be in the minority, I reckon). I think 25-45 will be where most of the customers are - as the poll results so far seem to indicate.




Interesting...WWII ended over 60 years ago...so it's the Children of the children of the time interested in WWII simulation of flight?

I'm not sure. I think it has more to do with the cyclic nature of pop culture

Think back 10 years ago, WWII films were just about to become popular again, at least in the US

And when they did, they were more realistic (except for say the stuff John Ford filmed during Midway- that IS real) than anything ever seen. More accessible, more real, and I think that opened the eyes of an entire generation- 'Wow! They actually DID that?? All those guys froze at Stalingrad?? Holy Sh--! All those guys stormed that little beach, and some LIVED?! Wow, how'd they do that???"

Today, I actually hear people tell about grade school from 10 or 15 years ago, and they learned who Hitler was in the 10th grade http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif that's approximately 15 years old, they didn't know who one of the most famous and infamous figures of the 20th century was until they were 15. How much more well known do you need to be?

I think the demographics are more in the lines of:

mechanical interest
adventure
physical and mental contest
historical interest and knowing the past can still teach </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I think the real reason is the quality of teaching nowadays-sadly real history seems not to be taught.I think I may be one of the older ones -I can still remember the bombers circling as they formed up to go bomb germany in 44-45

micksaf
04-17-2006, 02:53 AM
turned 57 last month and it just kills to see that so many youngsters are interested in piston- engined WW2 warbirds !!
This passion isn't going to die then !!
Cherrios !!

Low_Flyer_MkVb
04-17-2006, 04:59 AM
Originally posted by CD_kp84yb:
44 Last tuesday (April 11)

Hahaha it looks like Lowflyer and me are born on the same day.

No grey and still my hair.
In the morning i feel like 80, but when im awake for 30 minutes i start feeling 28 again. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Aw, hump! Now next year they're going to buy us one beer and expect us to share it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

panther3485
04-17-2006, 05:30 AM
Hello there, blindpugh

I'm not old enough to remember bombers forming up in 1944-45 but I am old enough to remember 'real history' in school.

In my part of the World, history and geography, for example, were once taught as separate subjects in their own right. Kids are now taught 'social studies' which is supposed to include some history and geography in among a number of subjects covered by this very general heading.

Apart from what is taught in schools, however, I think the sheer passing of time has also had its effects. I am of the generation who's parents fought in World War 2 and when we were being raised (50's and 60's), the war was still a relatively recent memory and very much in people's minds. Some of the older kids of my generation played in bombed-out buildings, for example and on trips to certain places around the countryside, evidence of the war could still be seen. I remember finding spent casings by the hundreds, and fins from mortar bombs, on a disused training range not far from my home. [That was as a young child in the UK, before we migrated to Australia].

I guess what I'm saying is, we felt a certain connection with it, even though we were not born until shortly afterwards - because it was still very much in our parents' minds as well.
For most of today's kids, it must seem much more remote and less real.


On the positive side, I have been involved myself, in helping some High School students with special projects studying history, in particular the two World Wars. Also, the recent resurgence in movies depicting WW2 events and sim/games like this do help to stimulate awareness.

Indeed, our Returned Services League has been pleasantly surprised by real increases in the numbers of young people attending ANZAC Day services in recent years, showing that youngsters are starting to think about it. Perhaps, with their more detached view, they may find a better balance? We can but hope.


Best regards,
panther3485

danjama
04-17-2006, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by BrewsterPilot:
Now why do I get this creepy feeling of Danjama approaching? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I was actually gonna but then thought....naaaa http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Friendly_flyer
04-17-2006, 05:45 AM
I'm 38ish. I had my first grey hairs at 12, but my hairline is where it always was, so I'm not complaining.

Had there been a game like IL2 when I was 14-15, I would have been hooked. I guess I have always been a potential WWII plane sim player. The only other comparable game that I have ever spent any time playing was X-wing.

I don't think it's any disaster the game do not primarily attract the younger crowd. Teenagers quickly grow fond of games and equally quickly grow bored with them.

Then again, we should be weary of determining the mean age of players from forum members' ages. The forum users are a very small segment of those that have bought the game, and may be rather unrepresentative. That having been said, the 3 other people I know who play this game on a regular basis are all 30-somethings.

Monson74
04-17-2006, 05:56 AM
31 & feeling 13 - I've often wondered if simming is a good way of staying young mentally speaking - not physical of course... You know keeping your reflexes up & all?

lowfighter
04-17-2006, 06:38 AM
40something years old, just another kid otherwise http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

shotdownski
04-17-2006, 08:03 AM
According to my math, I'm 43...FORTY-THREE!!! How the he11 did I get to 43! That just can't be right. Now I'm depressed.

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-17-2006, 08:54 AM
42...but that number is so relative. A few months ago I would have seemed 25. Today I feel 55 (work hard, play harder http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif ). But I still view myself as...well...30. Go figure.

Takata_
04-17-2006, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by RAF238th_Soak:
Do you think we are attracting enough of the younger crowd?
- Do you think we have to?
I guess they'll enjoy this sim when they will grow up.
S~
Takata.

BrewsterPilot
04-17-2006, 10:11 AM
I'm 14 and I enjoyed it since I was 11/12. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

BrewsterPilot
04-17-2006, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BrewsterPilot:
Now why do I get this creepy feeling of Danjama approaching? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I was actually gonna but then thought....naaaa http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You see? I know you! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Heliopause
04-17-2006, 10:36 AM
30 - 35 group http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

han freak solo
04-17-2006, 01:46 PM
Hi, I'm new here. I lost my vision at 40. I'm now 41 and play IL2Sturmosandwich with a flashlight on my hat.

SnailRunner
04-18-2006, 02:01 AM
30 here. Aint to bad......education is over....steady income.....kids...i doent have a prob being "abit" settled. the stress from the 20`s are over.....nice to have some time to hobbys...but darn i miss the "army" body lol.....