View Full Version : Poll: DO you find flying bombers useless online 1.21

12-20-2003, 04:34 AM

12-20-2003, 04:34 AM

12-20-2003, 04:37 AM
You could do the gunning youreslf. One hand on the stick, other on the mouse.

Never let the AI do a mans job.

12-20-2003, 04:38 AM
I was just wondering, it seems so easy to destroy any bomber now that ai aim is horable, Also you cant strafe fuel depos with the stukas 20mm or strafe planes the guns are so weak 3-4 passes of all good engine hits and the planes takeoff fine, the only way is to get a pilotkill. Im sure everyone seen footage before of stukas strafing planes with mgs and destroying them in reality. And the same with russian locomotives and fuel depots


12-20-2003, 04:39 AM
true fennec but its kinda of too much to do when aligning the bombsite and lining up the target, and also when switching to gunner stations you have to hit a to take control of the gun then if you switch the to another gun you need to put it back on auto for ai to fire from it.


12-20-2003, 04:54 AM
strangely, when flying a bomber, the gunners suck big time. But when the plane is fully AI controlled, the gunners rock the heck outta it. Really suckage http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

12-20-2003, 04:58 AM
Yah, what a coincidence http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

12-20-2003, 05:00 AM
I just make sure I barely need my gunners, flying undetected either at 7000 or 50m http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


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12-20-2003, 05:04 AM
If you are in a He-111, forget the gunners.

Switch to the nose position, assign the fire button to your joystick, and be a fighter.

12-20-2003, 08:01 AM
ive got a few kills like that offline http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
bombers are a real attention magnet tho

12-20-2003, 08:31 AM
Bombers *can* be a very effective weapon in 1.21 online DFs...provided they make it to the target. The sad truth is that they usually do not (and, thus, are not). Unescorted bombers, particularly in servers with a healthy selection of LW aircraft and loadouts, are simply dead meat. This is especially true at low to med alt (deck to 2000 or 3000m). High altitude bombing avoids alot of the fighter trouble and is possible even in external-fly-only aircraft, but carpet bombing from 6k-8k meters is frankly not very effective. Sadly, it is relatively rare to find people willing to escort the big birds (btw using them for bait so you can bounce enemy fighters does not count as escort). This is unfortunate, since 2 or 3 Pe-8 "nukes" or B-17s in "gunship" mode over an enemy airfield can completely turn a battle.



12-20-2003, 09:10 AM
I was Online last night with a M8, and I kept shooting him down in my B-17http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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12-20-2003, 10:33 AM
AI gunnery in general needs alot of work imo


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12-20-2003, 10:45 AM
You can have terrific fun in the very first Il-2 versions. You take off with a full bomb load, shoot one or two of the attacking flight of four Bf-109E's and let the rest to the escorting I-16's and you are still able to deliver the ordinance and get groundkills also http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

12-21-2003, 08:57 PM
very few aircraft warranted a good reason for me to leave my yak9K. now that the queen is here, i rarely see my yak. even if the 17 or PE8 didnt have any guns.... id still fly