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Avont29
01-27-2007, 12:00 AM
at some airshow in the UK, an SU27 jet crashes into a crowd....


apprently the right engine went out and plane went into a stall. both the pilot and the copilot bailed before the crash and survived amazingly, but one was sentenced to 14 years in prison, and the other sentenced to 8 years in prison


if you have a weak stomach, dont watch this video, i dont even see how this is even allowed on youTube



again this video is not for the faint hearted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=&mode=related&v=N21ZE7iyvRc


i watched it once and dont really want to see it anymore, thats sad

i bet they dont even allow planes or jets to fly near crowds in the USA, cause of reasons like this

FritzGryphon
01-27-2007, 12:18 AM
More info.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_airshow_disaster

Avont29
01-27-2007, 12:28 AM
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The jet's pilot, Volodymyr Toponar, and his co-pilot Yury Yegorov, who both ejected and survived, were sentenced to 14 years and eight years respectively.

Toponar was found guilty of negligence and violating flight rules.

Two of his senior military officials and a flight security official were also jailed."

they shouldn't have gotten arrested though, it was an accident, it stalled i think cause the right engine went out and he was trying to control it


hmm meybe they were jailed because .. like maybe they thought it was a terrosit attack or premeditated or something..i dunno

but that was a disaster,

Lucius_Esox
01-27-2007, 12:35 AM
Airshows in the UK suffered suffered a few fatal accidents over quite a short period a few years back, none to spectators though I think. I know the rules were tightened up even more after this,, thay are made safe to the point of almost being pedestrian now,, ok by me.

A program was shown in the wake of a particularly bad weekend at Biggin Hill (a Vampire and a P63 went down on the same weekend, unfortunately I saw the P63.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif )

It showed a Mig 29 pilot iirc being told to land immediately after doing a particularly gung ho move, neither side was too happy.

Tons of metal flying about at very high speeds near crowds of people=recipe for disaster if not enough care and thought are put into it.

A very sad video and not one I would have taken, expect this to be locked..

FritzGryphon
01-27-2007, 12:45 AM
At first glance, I assumed that a right engine failure caused the aircraft to start rolling and spin.

But if you look very carefully, at the beginning the rolling, you can see the elevons tilting -with- the roll.

As well, when the Su-27 is skimming low, you can see it yawed to the left, with left wing low. Were the right engine flamed out, it'd yaw the other way.

As far as I can tell, the descending roll was a deliberate manuever on the part of the pilot, who misjudged altitude and speed, and mushed as he tried to pull out.

MadRuski
01-27-2007, 12:48 AM
that was horrific!, the screaming put me off at first, but when i saw the other pictures right near the end, i couldnt look at my dinner without seeing them in my head again!

the camara man sure knew some colorful langauge.

that was a sad, sad day http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

HotelBushranger
01-27-2007, 04:55 AM
Could you blame him? That's f***ed up.

Feel real bad for the pilot. Poor bastard.

Feel even worse off for the families of those killed.

Lessons should be learned from things like this. I think it's a bit unfair the aircrew getting jailed, at that height there's **** all you can do.

RIP to the dead.

Badsight-
01-27-2007, 04:57 AM
i have .wmv files of this crash from multiple angles

its old news really , but that youtube video brings out the pilot view

in the space of 20 seconds they are doing a roll & pullout- to standing on the ground looking at all the dead bodies they were responsible for

mynameisroland
01-27-2007, 05:03 AM
Originally posted by Avont29:
at some airshow in the UK, an SU27 jet crashes into a crowd....


apprently the right engine went out and plane went into a stall. both the pilot and the copilot bailed before the crash and survived amazingly, but one was sentenced to 14 years in prison, and the other sentenced to 8 years in prison


if you have a weak stomach, dont watch this video, i dont even see how this is even allowed on youTube



again this video is not for the faint hearted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=&mode=related&v=N21ZE7iyvRc


i watched it once and dont really want to see it anymore, thats sad

i bet they dont even allow planes or jets to fly near crowds in the USA, cause of reasons like this

It wasnt in the UK, it was in the Ukraine.

MEGILE
01-27-2007, 05:10 AM
Complete lack of medical response.

The show supervisors should have been held to account

JG53_Valantine
01-27-2007, 05:17 AM
Just letting you know its been removed from utube for violation of terms of use.
For anyone who still wants to view it its stil lavailable on several sites as its old news. Just use google.
Regards,
Val


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JG53_Valantine
01-27-2007, 05:21 AM
For those interested heres a seperate video of the same occasion - http://www.break.com/index/airshowcrash27.html
Taken from several different angles i believe.
Regards,
Val


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Badsight-
01-27-2007, 05:29 AM
fully loaded with fuel , the pilot could not pull out from that altitude

http://imgboot.com/images/badsight/su271.jpg

http://imgboot.com/images/badsight/su272.jpg

http://imgboot.com/images/badsight/su273.jpg

http://imgboot.com/images/badsight/su274.jpg

http://imgboot.com/images/badsight/su275.jpg

http://imgboot.com/images/badsight/su276.jpg

http://imgboot.com/images/badsight/su277.jpg

erco415
01-27-2007, 06:26 AM
Airshow rules in the US prohibit 'directing energy' at the crowd. Basically, you aren't to maneuver in a way that could result in this sort of thing, and woe to you if you do.

Avont29
01-27-2007, 11:30 PM
man how in the hell were the pilots able to bail out while sliding across the ground, when did they actually bail out?
man that was sad, did oyu see all the body parts scattered around, and did you see tha tlittle boy face down, arm twisted, other arm dismemberd....and the EMT came out

dang that was crucially, there is no reason why that airport allowed that jet to fly so near the crowd..thats by far the worst thing i've yet to see......i mean there was an infant broken to pieces..http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

knightflyte
01-28-2007, 12:33 AM
It took a minute to register what I was seeing. Then the horror, and the immediacy of the images struck home like a punch in the gut. Truly gut wrenching to see.

Tater-SW-
01-28-2007, 12:47 AM
So they had a cockpit or guncam video posted of the crash? I have seen the horrible ground footage before. How terrible, I can picture myself at an airshow here with my kids. Verry sad, indeed.

TheGozr
01-28-2007, 01:03 AM
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RAF74_Raptor
01-29-2007, 10:56 AM
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Phil_C
01-29-2007, 11:25 AM
the youtube video has been removed.

DuxCorvan
01-29-2007, 01:47 PM
The slaughterish scenes really freeze the blood in your veins. Sure not for the too sensitive.

It's too easy to imagine oneself there. Weird how a sunny entertainment day can get converted into a dantesque horror in a few seconds.

I guess scenes like these are common in war times, the fact that makes things like these even more horrible is how they are abruptly inserted into a normal, innocent-looking peacetime day.