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BrewsterPilot
03-24-2006, 11:40 AM
That version with the long heavy cannon. Quick! I need info about that particular cannon.

berg417448
03-24-2006, 11:45 AM
It never worked very well. Constantly jammed. It was called a Mk 214 50mm cannon. According to all the sources that I read no kills were ever acheived by a Me-262 armed with that gun.

BrewsterPilot
03-24-2006, 11:50 AM
Thanks! All kinds of info welcome!

TX-Zen
03-24-2006, 11:52 AM
50mm cannon IIRC

(edit: oops, too late)

berg417448
03-24-2006, 12:05 PM
I found reference to a report dated April 6, 1945 which detailed testing of the 50mm equipped Me-262 to that date. Me-262 A-1a/U4 number 111899 fired 47 rounds of ammo on a test stand and another 81 rounds while in flight. Firing test were unsatifactory according to the report. There were problems with ammunition feed,electrical system, and ejection of spent shell casings.

Kocur_
03-24-2006, 01:47 PM
The cannon, just like earlier BK 5 was based on tank 5cm KwK 39, in fact it was the cannon plus externally powered feeding system. Total weight of 490kg, 160rpm.

hobnail
03-24-2006, 03:39 PM
Try Emmanuel Gustin's excellent site here (http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/hangar/8217/fgun/fgun-in.html).

especially the section on big guns (http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/hangar/8217/fgun/fgun-bi.html)

danjama
03-24-2006, 03:45 PM
How come your lookin for this info "BrewsterPilot" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Jaws2002
03-24-2006, 04:32 PM
the gun is the Bk 5

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/arm/arm5.htm


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/70/Me_410_with_BK50.jpg

BrewsterPilot
03-25-2006, 12:51 AM
Thanks all for being so helpful, it was urgently needed for a school project.

Kocur_
03-25-2006, 06:16 AM
Originally posted by Jaws2002:
the gun is the Bk 5

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/arm/arm5.htm


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/70/Me_410_with_BK50.jpg


There is a bit of confusion about the 50mm cannon in Me262. Seems that what was installed and tested in air (in two planes) was BK 5. What was planned to replace it was lighter and faster MK214. BK 5 and MK214 are different weapons systems although both use the same KwK 39 tank cannon recoiling parts (barrel, breech block, hydropneumatic recoil system). The differece between BK 5 and MK214 is made by reloading system, MK214 was lighter, also BK 5 was capable of 45rpm, while MK214 could shoot at 160rpm.

fighter_966
03-25-2006, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by Kocur_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jaws2002:
the gun is the Bk 5

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/arm/arm5.htmBtw the 50mm gun for me 262 Idea came from
Adolf H he was fancy for it


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/70/Me_410_with_BK50.jpg


There is a bit of confusion about the 50mm cannon in Me262. Seems that what was installed and tested in air (in two planes) was BK 5. What was planned to replace it was lighter and faster MK214. BK 5 and MK214 are different weapons systems although both use the same KwK 39 tank cannon recoiling parts (barrel, breech block, hydropneumatic recoil system). The differece between BK 5 and MK214 is made by reloading system, MK214 was lighter, also BK 5 was capable of 45rpm, while MK214 could shoot at 160rpm. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Messaschnitzel
03-25-2006, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by BrewsterPilot:
Thanks all for being so helpful, it was urgently needed for a school project.

Wow. Most people build birdhouses or magazine racks in shop class. Does your machine shop instructor know that you are tackling this project of building a cannon? The ammo might be hard to locate, so you might try ordering through some of the local gun shops to see if they might have it. If they do, then it will most likely be located behind a secret sliding wall in the back of the shop. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif