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Beaufort-RAF
08-25-2006, 03:43 AM
BSC (http://www.guardian.co.uk/secondworldwar/story/0,,1852220,00.html) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

BBB_Hyperion
08-25-2006, 06:48 AM
Wasnt Churchill involved in a similar matter concerning a ship ,a sub and some
intresting orders in ww1 .)

F6_Ace
08-25-2006, 06:51 AM
Not to mention the WW1 'Zimmermann telegram' which had a 'slight' effect on getting the US into the war http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

BBB_Hyperion
08-25-2006, 07:02 AM
Originally posted by F6_Ace:
Not to mention the WW1 'Zimmermann telegram' which had a 'slight' effect on getting the US into the war http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Yet another plot of the british secret service ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

RCAF_Irish_403
08-25-2006, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by BBB_Hyperion:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by F6_Ace:
Not to mention the WW1 'Zimmermann telegram' which had a 'slight' effect on getting the US into the war http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Yet another plot of the british secret service ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes

leitmotiv
08-25-2006, 09:17 AM
All's fair. The Germans used propaganda and means fair and foul to influence Europeans before WWII, as did the USSR. There was an American Nazi Bund. One thing that worked in the favor of the British was Hollywood which was overwhelmingly pro-British, and films like MRS. MINIVER had a tremendous impact on Americans even if they were disinclined to go to war. The Nazis spent lavishly on propaganda exports of films to the USA and South America. Peron, dictator of Argentina, was, of course, an outright supporter of fascism.

F6_Ace
08-25-2006, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by BBB_Hyperion:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by F6_Ace:
Not to mention the WW1 'Zimmermann telegram' which had a 'slight' effect on getting the US into the war http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Yet another plot of the british secret service ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, not quite a 'plot' but a typically British underhand ploy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram)

I think the best other dupe that the British pulled off was dropping 'larger than real life fake paratroopers' near Italian lines so they thought there was a massive British troop build-up that was closer to them than it actually was. They retreated, apparently, as a result of it.

Reminds me a bit of the 'Father Ted' sketch with the toy cow 'close up' and the 'real cow'....further away http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif