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Bearcat99
07-19-2005, 03:37 PM
I wish I had the $$$$$...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

In a message dated 7/18/2005 4:08:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cross2225@comcast.net writes:
Mr. Carter;

Mr. Tom LaSalle gave me your name as a person to contact regarding a PT-17
I have.

I have owned the aircraft for about 30 years. I have used it on numerous
occasions to support the Spanky Roberts Chapter in Sacramento.

The airplane was originally built for Paraguay. They ordered Fairchild
PT-19's in 1941 but the War Material Allotment Board said Fairchild's were
in short supply and placed an order for Boeing PT-17's. My airplane Serial
Number 41-25751 was shipped to Houston late 1942. Four days after the train
left Wichita Kansas the Paraguayan government got their Fairchild PT-19's
and my airplane was declared surplus. A material officer in Houston sent
the airplane to Tuskegee where it was assigned to Moton Field. At the end
of the war it was sold to a crop duster in Mississippi who converted it to
a crop duster.

In 1972 it was sold to an individual in New Jersey who converted it back to
a sport biplane. I bought it a few years later.....it was in very bad
shape. I took the airplane completely apart and had to replace the entire
rear end because of corrosion due to pesticides. I acquired original Boeing
drawings and assembled the airplane exactly by the drawings. Every part
number, inspection stamp, and decal is exactly as it was in 1942. I was
taking the airplane to Oshkosh the year the Tuskegee Airmen were to be
honored, but unfortunately I had to abort a takeoff in Brigham City Utah
and the aircraft was severely damaged. It took an additional 3 years to
restore it again....In a way I was lucky....The first time I restored it I
wanted to do some things differently. I then had a chance to make things
the way I wanted the second time I restored it.

In addition to the aircraft I have the engine and airframe tool kits, first
aid kit, a brand new flight suit and helmets and goggles for an instructor
and a student (they are different)...as well as a brand new Switlick
parachute. I have worked with the Smithsonian Museum to make sure
everything is exactly as it should be......the only difference is my
airplane has only 37 hours since completely restored.

I have tried to get the museum at Moton Field to acquire the aircraft.....I
even sent them 2 professionally made videos showing the aircraft....but
they never contact me. I had originally hoped that a manakin of Chief
Anderson in a flight suit helmet and goggles with a Switlick parachute
could stand in front of the airplane and as people walked up he would speak
to them as he would a new student pilot (Dorfman Museum Figures would make
such a manakin with a capacity operated switch.

Unfortunately I must sell the airplane because my retirement is practically
non existent (I was a pilot for Pan American World Airways and then United
Airlines.....they both are bankrupt.) I have A.L.S. and must leave my wife
with something to support her after I'm gone.

The Air Force Museum looked at the airplane several years ago and appraised
it at $300,000....that did not include the tool kits, cockpit and engine
covers, or any of the other accessories.

By the way I also have a brand new set of Pinks and Greens similar to the
uniform which Noel Parish might have worn....it has all pre WW2 pin back
emblems ...I was offered $5,000 just for the blouse by a uniform collector.

You might want to see if the Moton Field Museum would send you the 10
minute video.....after all it is mine.

Robert L. Cross
2225 COlusa Highway
Yuba City, CA. 95993-8900
telephone: (530) 671-0228

Bearcat99
07-19-2005, 03:37 PM
I wish I had the $$$$$...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

In a message dated 7/18/2005 4:08:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cross2225@comcast.net writes:
Mr. Carter;

Mr. Tom LaSalle gave me your name as a person to contact regarding a PT-17
I have.

I have owned the aircraft for about 30 years. I have used it on numerous
occasions to support the Spanky Roberts Chapter in Sacramento.

The airplane was originally built for Paraguay. They ordered Fairchild
PT-19's in 1941 but the War Material Allotment Board said Fairchild's were
in short supply and placed an order for Boeing PT-17's. My airplane Serial
Number 41-25751 was shipped to Houston late 1942. Four days after the train
left Wichita Kansas the Paraguayan government got their Fairchild PT-19's
and my airplane was declared surplus. A material officer in Houston sent
the airplane to Tuskegee where it was assigned to Moton Field. At the end
of the war it was sold to a crop duster in Mississippi who converted it to
a crop duster.

In 1972 it was sold to an individual in New Jersey who converted it back to
a sport biplane. I bought it a few years later.....it was in very bad
shape. I took the airplane completely apart and had to replace the entire
rear end because of corrosion due to pesticides. I acquired original Boeing
drawings and assembled the airplane exactly by the drawings. Every part
number, inspection stamp, and decal is exactly as it was in 1942. I was
taking the airplane to Oshkosh the year the Tuskegee Airmen were to be
honored, but unfortunately I had to abort a takeoff in Brigham City Utah
and the aircraft was severely damaged. It took an additional 3 years to
restore it again....In a way I was lucky....The first time I restored it I
wanted to do some things differently. I then had a chance to make things
the way I wanted the second time I restored it.

In addition to the aircraft I have the engine and airframe tool kits, first
aid kit, a brand new flight suit and helmets and goggles for an instructor
and a student (they are different)...as well as a brand new Switlick
parachute. I have worked with the Smithsonian Museum to make sure
everything is exactly as it should be......the only difference is my
airplane has only 37 hours since completely restored.

I have tried to get the museum at Moton Field to acquire the aircraft.....I
even sent them 2 professionally made videos showing the aircraft....but
they never contact me. I had originally hoped that a manakin of Chief
Anderson in a flight suit helmet and goggles with a Switlick parachute
could stand in front of the airplane and as people walked up he would speak
to them as he would a new student pilot (Dorfman Museum Figures would make
such a manakin with a capacity operated switch.

Unfortunately I must sell the airplane because my retirement is practically
non existent (I was a pilot for Pan American World Airways and then United
Airlines.....they both are bankrupt.) I have A.L.S. and must leave my wife
with something to support her after I'm gone.

The Air Force Museum looked at the airplane several years ago and appraised
it at $300,000....that did not include the tool kits, cockpit and engine
covers, or any of the other accessories.

By the way I also have a brand new set of Pinks and Greens similar to the
uniform which Noel Parish might have worn....it has all pre WW2 pin back
emblems ...I was offered $5,000 just for the blouse by a uniform collector.

You might want to see if the Moton Field Museum would send you the 10
minute video.....after all it is mine.

Robert L. Cross
2225 COlusa Highway
Yuba City, CA. 95993-8900
telephone: (530) 671-0228

GreyFox5
07-19-2005, 03:48 PM
This is Museam quality or better shape. This guy needs to contact a collector or collection. Tillimook NAS has several flying examples of WWII and older aircraft. http://www.tillamookair.com/ Not sure how to contact them for something like this... it sounds like an outstanding plane.

~S~
Fox

3.JG51_BigBear
07-19-2005, 03:55 PM
Not that I have that kind of money, but $300,000 doesn't seem bad for something like that.