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MB_Avro_UK
03-05-2007, 02:49 PM
Hi all,

Many RAF Lancasters made it home with severe damage. I have tried in vain to find pics on the web. Wartime pics were few due to the Government censors at the time.

There are very many authenticated accounts of crews (often with a dead or dying pilot) making the flight back to England against the odds.

The British war time censors made photography by individuals almost an act of treason. Perhaps that is why there are so few pics??

The contrary occured with regard to US bombers and a lot of good information is available.

Pics are also hard to find for the Wellington, Stirling and Halifax.

Does anyone have a source or link please?

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

BigSilverHotdog
03-05-2007, 02:56 PM
A place with pics of a downed Lancaster along with other wartime plane pics. Enjoy.

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Camp/8605/machines.html

MB_Avro_UK
03-05-2007, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by BigSilverHotdog:
A place with pics of a downed Lancaster along with other wartime plane pics. Enjoy.

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Camp/8605/machines.html

Many Thanks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

nsteense
03-06-2007, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by MB_Avro_UK:
Hi all,

Many RAF Lancasters made it home with severe damage. I have tried in vain to find pics on the web. Wartime pics were few due to the Government censors at the time.

There are very many authenticated accounts of crews (often with a dead or dying pilot) making the flight back to England against the odds.

The British war time censors made photography by individuals almost an act of treason. Perhaps that is why there are so few pics??

The contrary occured with regard to US bombers and a lot of good information is available.

Pics are also hard to find for the Wellington, Stirling and Halifax.

Does anyone have a source or link please?

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.
Avro,
I don't know for a source on the web, but there is book written by Mike Garbett and Brian Goulding, called Lancaster at war, which has an excellent colletion of shot up Lancastermpictures. It was orginally published beginning of the '70s, but it has been reprinted mid 90's. I'm sure you can find a copy of this book somewhere on the web or at the local bookshop.

wayno7777
03-06-2007, 08:05 PM
I found this one, not really a crash but a wreck nonetheless....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/wayno77/FB%20shots/Aircraft/LancastercollisionwithB17.jpg

jarink
03-06-2007, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by wayno7777:
I found this one, not really a crash but a wreck nonetheless....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/wayno77/FB%20shots/Aircraft/LancastercollisionwithB17.jpg

That pic looks like the Lanc is giving the Fort a peck on the cheek!

Overpaid, overs*xed and over there, baby!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Termitedelight
03-06-2007, 10:35 PM
My friends father who was a mid-gunner on a RCAF 431 Squadron Lancaster has giving me a picture that he had taken of a fully loaded Lanc exploding into a mushroom cloud on take-off.
The amazing thing is that his aircraft (SE-O) is in the forground static (parked).

Feathered_IV
03-06-2007, 10:48 PM
Termitedelite, please be sure to post the pic when you get it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

Waldo.Pepper
03-06-2007, 10:53 PM
Here are some battle damaged Lancs. I have tons more on discs (somwhere ?) but can't find them yet.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/Battle%20Damaged%20Lancs/dd41.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/Battle%20Damaged%20Lancs/dd42.jpg


Here is a bent Sunderland too boot!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/Battle%20Damaged%20Lancs/Sunderland.jpg

And lastly she's not damaged but it is a sweet flypast of a Halifax! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/Battle%20Damaged%20Lancs/halifax_london_pride_flypast.jpg

-HH-Dubbo
03-06-2007, 11:38 PM
Nice Waldo. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Do you have the story on that Sunderland?

Waldo.Pepper
03-06-2007, 11:48 PM
Do you have the story on that Sunderland?

Sorry Dub nothing really - She may have been forced down or had a mechanical, or just broke her moorings. The 'ol girl could be just having a bad weather day. The guys on the wing are doing something though.

Zonama
03-06-2007, 11:56 PM
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/archie_bombercommand/W1048_rob1.JPG

Not so much downed as spent a good few years in a Norwegian lake. This is a Halifax in the RAF Museum, Hendon.

nsteense
03-07-2007, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by jarink:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by wayno7777:
I found this one, not really a crash but a wreck nonetheless....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/wayno77/FB%20shots/Aircraft/LancastercollisionwithB17.jpg

That pic looks like the Lanc is giving the Fort a peck on the cheek!

Overpaid, overs*xed and over there, baby!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The story behind this picture was that the shot up Lanc had to land at an American airfield. During roll out, the crew found out the brakes weren't working anymore. In the morning haze, they suddenly hit something solid, with the result shown in the picture.

Skyraider3D
03-07-2007, 01:57 AM
Here's a Lancaster that was attacked by an Me 262:

http://www.posart.com/pics/pa226.jpg

Heliopause
03-07-2007, 02:56 AM
First Lanc to get shot down by an Me 262 was PB 629 J from 582 Sqn. This was on december 3rd '44.

Beaufort-RAF
03-07-2007, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by Termitedelight:
My friends father who was a mid-gunner on a RCAF 431 Squadron Lancaster has giving me a picture that he had taken of a fully loaded Lanc exploding into a mushroom cloud on take-off.
The amazing thing is that his aircraft (SE-O) is in the forground static (parked).

Is this it?

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9066/lacastermushroomcloudaq0.jpg

Crashed on takeoff with the Cookie exploding half an hour later.

it looks like an atomic bomb. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Beaufort-RAF
03-07-2007, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by nsteense:

Avro,
I don't know for a source on the web, but there is book written by Mike Garbett and Brian Goulding, called Lancaster at war, which has an excellent colletion of shot up Lancastermpictures. It was orginally published beginning of the '70s, but it has been reprinted mid 90's. I'm sure you can find a copy of this book somewhere on the web or at the local bookshop.

Yep, good book.

This 90s version is Lancaster at War 1&2 together.

http://i10.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/87/20/a554_1.JPG

There's also also Lancaster at War 3, 4 & 5.

Beaufort-RAF
03-07-2007, 04:19 AM
Halifax

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/wwii/photos/gallery_006/Halifax%20DY-N%20after%20a%20raid%20on%20Cologne.jpg

Halifax that was hit by a 'friendly' 1000 pounder over Holland.

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/wwii/photos/gallery_006/Halifax%20II%20%20%20MZ559%20at%20Old%20Buckenham% 20-%203%20Sep%20'44%20after%20being%20hit%20by%201,00 0lb%20bomb%20over%20Venlo.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/wwii/photos/gallery_006/Halifax%20II%20%20%20MZ559%20at%20Old%20Buckenham% 20-%203%20Sep%20'44%20after%20being%20hit%20by%201,00 0lb%20bomb%20over%20Venlo%20%202.jpg

Wimpy

http://www.perth.igs.net/~long/geo.JPG

Beaufort-RAF
03-07-2007, 04:48 AM
RAF Liberator hit by bombs.

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/wwii/photos/gallery_006/RAF%2037Sqn%20Liberator%20'V%20Victor'%20hit%20by% 201,000lb%20bombs%20from%2070%20Sqn%20'R%20Roger'% 2016%20Mar%20'45.jpg
http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/wwii/photos/gallery_006/RAF%2037Sqn%20Liberator%20'V%20Victor'%20hit%20by% 201,000lb%20heads%20for%20home%20with%20a%20smokin g%20port%20inner%2016%20Mar%20'45.jpg
http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/wwii/photos/gallery_006/RAF%2037Sqn%20Liberator%20'V%20Victor'%20-%20now%20on%20the%20ground%20-%20crew%20inspects%20the%20damage%20-%2016%20Mar%20'45.jpg

FlatSpinMan
03-07-2007, 04:52 AM
These are really interesting pics, thanks for posting. Just wondering - how the long horizontal tear occurred in the fuselage of the bomber two or three pics up?

nsteense
03-07-2007, 05:29 AM
Originally posted by Beaufort-RAF:
RAF Liberator hit by bombs.

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Nice collection of pictures, Beaufort. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Regarding all of the Lancaster pictures shown in this topic, you will find them in the book Lancaster at war.

Beaufort-RAF
03-07-2007, 07:56 AM
Stirling that hit an electricity pylon while strafing a train.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8725/stirlingpyloncollisiontt7.jpg

Stirling after a night fighter attack.

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3854/stirlingsmashedrearturrye1.jpg

OD_79
03-07-2007, 08:05 AM
The one from the Norwegian Lake looks more like a Whitley than a Halifax, but if it is in the RAF museum you would think that they would know so I will take you word for it.

OD.

Zonama
03-07-2007, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by OD_79:
The one from the Norwegian Lake looks more like a Whitley than a Halifax, but if it is in the RAF museum you would think that they would know so I will take you word for it.

OD.

I promise you it's a Halifax http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif, one of only three on display (even though this one has been left "as is"). The picture below shows its recovery.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/40/Halifax_II_W1048_TL-S_Being_Recovered_From_Lake_Hoklingen_Norway_1973. jpg

MB_Avro_UK
03-07-2007, 12:24 PM
Great pics guys, thanks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

The pic of the shot-up Stirling's rear gunner is horrific http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif No way the gunner could have survived.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

MB_Avro_UK
03-07-2007, 01:43 PM
Hi all,

Some pics from a Lancaster crash site in Belgium WW2. ID sought on fragments.

http://www.207squadron.rafinfo.org.uk/wesseling/emm_ll973_items.htm

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

major_setback
03-08-2007, 12:24 PM
Not to do with Lancasters, this story is one that I was reminded of when reading this thread. A Mosquito during a shipping attack collided with the mast of one of the ships. Part of the mast became embedded in the nose of the aircraft, and it returned home with that part of the mast still in the aircraft. I read the story about a year ago in the magazine *Fly Past*

The story, found on this website:
http://www.scotshistoryonline.co.uk/sorties.html

"May 04 1945.

Banff strike wings final attack on shipping in the Kiel and Kattegat areas, finishing over Denmark. The squadrons involved were 143,235, 248,333 and 404, led by Wing Commander pierce, consisting of forty one Mosquito's, eighteen Mustangs for fighter cover and three Air Sea Rescue Warwick's on hand to drop lifeboats to any ditched crews. A convoy was spotted consisting of an N"”class Minesweeper, Three Merchant Vessels, one ex Dutch gunboat and two smaller enemy vessels. The German Merchant Vessel WOLFGANG L.M. RUSS of 3750 tons was sunk and another German Merchant Vessel damaged the GUNTHER RUSS of 998 tons. The Danish Merchant Vessel ANGAMOS of 3540 tons was also damaged. The flak barrage was intense which resulted in four Mustangs failing to return. Two Mosquito's suffered battle damage and landed in neutral territory. During the attack on the shipping near Samso Island all the vessels were ˜seen to be hit' by either by rocket projectiles and/or 20mm cannon fire. One Mosquito landed back at Banff with the German ensign and part of the mast off a ship, embedded in the nose of the aircraft, after colliding with it at low level, while pulling up over the ship. Later reports state that all ships were left either smoking or on fire."

Sorry, I haven't found any pictures of it, but there are some around, they were shown in the magazine article I mentioned above.

Beaufort-RAF
03-09-2007, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by MB_Avro_UK:
The pic of the shot-up Stirling's rear gunner is horrific http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif No way the gunner could have survived.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

Indeed, the gunner did die but the 19 year old pilot and the navigator got the DFC for getting the aircraft back.

ploughman
03-09-2007, 03:00 AM
funny that, I was just having a good old b*tch with someone about employing 19 year olds who can't be ar5ed to come to work on a saturday or ring in with a hangover/dubious medical complaint. Hard to believe that 60 years ago kids just like them were at the helm of four engined heavies, just goes to show what can be acheived if you're challenged. Not that I'm suggesting utilising strategic bombing as a method of energizing our idle and apathetic youth.

Oh no.

Beaufort-RAF
03-09-2007, 07:00 AM
Friendly bomb straight through.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1558/bombholeinlancoj3.jpg

A friendly bomb sheared the rear turret clean off.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9541/lancrearturretshearedofzd6.jpg