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PBNA-Boosher
12-25-2006, 01:28 AM
With another year soon come to pass, I think it's important we remember the LONG journey this program and its community and fanbase have come through to arrive at this point. It all started in 2001 with a few of us and the original program: IL2 Sturmovik. It has now become a product played by thousands, and is enjoyed by man, woman, child, and Martian alike. We realize we owe very much, if not all, of our fun from this product to Oleg Maddox and his team at 1C: Maddox Games as well as to <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b], who, regardless of whatever mistakes have happened, have been there since the beginning. The fact that this game has lasted so long is a tribute to its brilliance and design. It truly is a product that deserves the description now on the retail box: "The flight sim in this box was built by all of us, a worldwide team of thousands of fans....."

So I ask you, fellow flight simmers, how long have you been with the IL2 series, and what are some of your fondest memories of it?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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crazyivan1970
12-25-2006, 01:34 AM
Cool subject Boosher http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Man.... how long it has been... probably summer of 2001. More then 5 years http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif As far as memories go... i could probably write a book hehe: D<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Deedsundone
12-25-2006, 01:52 AM
Since the first demo and when I tried to take off with the P39 for the first time I crashed,thinking ,this is hard,I mean,I had flown a lot of flight sims so how hard can it be to take off.Then when you??re up in the air and spotted those He 111 and you knew the your big gun in the nose just gonna make the day for them bad but to make it bad for them you have to hit them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gifI was thinking,this is hard,I mean I have flown a lot of flight sims so how hard can it be to hit something http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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knightflyte
12-25-2006, 01:56 AM
I'm glad you posted this retrospective of sorts Boosher.

I was exploring the Bonus DVD and came across a lot of pictures of the developers. It's great to see the face to the product that does mean a lot to us.

While looking at the photos I was taken back to my original feelings when I first clicked the IL2 EXE in 2002. There is a group shot of Oleg and crew outside wearing various fighter pilot garb. Oleg was wearing goggles........ the same one on the splash screen of the original IL2.

I started IL2 in....well.... my <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b] member since says Dec 8th 2002. So it was Dec 7th I bought it. (I just realized the historical similarity to that date...WOW)

I've mentioned my fave moments a few times before.

The panic trying to take off in an FW 190 before a squad of IL2s come in and demolish our strip. The snow was lazily falling. There was an electrical hum from some devices running in the cockpit. THEN BAM!!!!!! "IL2s on the way!" And I was third in line. I was freaking because I didn't think I'd make it up in time.

Another is an intercept mission with an ME 109. I have to destroy a squad of 4 IL2s on their way to bomb my naval base/seaport. I was going to go for the CAP LaGGs, but opted for the IL2s first. I dove from on high and came up behind them. I saw their tracers and decided low would be the wize way to go. So I did and slid up under the last of the four to hit him. I shot his stab right off. I was going faster than him, but only by about 30 kph. As I continued and passed underneath them My screen went black. I had to save the track to watch why I died. I was low and out of clear aim from the other three IL2s. I didn't think a LaGG snuck into my party. Curious minds want to know. So I watched the track only to find out the IL2 pilot had Montezuma's Revenge on me. HE dropped his load on me and I detinated.

I finally got Track IR 1 after a month of IL2. BnZing. WOW! That's when IL2 bit me hard. When FB came with enhanced mode supported for Track IR I was in heaven.

I fondly remember my first rolling scissors fight too. I felt like a kid who got a star on his homework paper. All proud n everything. LOL

And my first Kill in Hyperlobby. The guy never saw me. It's great when you do it to AI, but it's got that sickly sweet gratification knowing you just surprized the heck outta someone. Heh heh heh heh



Yes, it AND us have come a long way..

dravisar
12-25-2006, 04:07 AM
Ahhh memories. A good thread.

My first IL2 experience came back in 02...the original. It ran like **** on my machine, but I have to admit, I was wow'ed. I came back to it in late 03, and have been playing ever since. It truly is a sim of sims. I spent a little time playing Aces High II, and the flight model in comparison, not to mention graphics, are archaic at the least. I came back to IL2 and haven't looked back.

My best times in IL2? It has to be whenever I fly something under a bridge, upside down with one engine shut off http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I look forward to purchasing more of Oleg and teams games in the hopefully, near future http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Friendly_flyer
12-25-2006, 04:21 AM
I came in with the first patch of IL2. I still very fondly remember hunting P2's (substitute Me 110s) with my little I-16 in the sunset over Smolensk.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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trumper
12-25-2006, 04:25 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I remember flying the original demo for il2 and actually being "scared".It was SOOOO easy to die,[still is] and alot harder to survive let alone get success.
Compared to what had been around before il2 it was light years ahead in most respects .
Watching raindrops move along the canopy,the loud bang of AAA near you and the ever present stall and spin,i came off the computer sweating and shaking.

hotspace
12-25-2006, 04:48 AM
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DuxCorvan
12-25-2006, 07:01 AM
2006 isn't over yet. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

PBNA-Boosher
12-25-2006, 10:05 AM
some things that come to my mind:

"Where did you read about Spitfire made of wood? Close this book forever and never open it again!"
-Oleg

"2 weeks."

the original RBJ.

When P-39's ruled the skies (so long as you didn't auger them in) in the original IL2.

P-40's that exploded past 500 kph.

My first online dogfight. I managed to hold a draw against a Yak-9 in my Fw-190A-4.

Making the "Bush Pilot map" and flying around Olegovo in a Storch.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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buglord
12-25-2006, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by HotSpace:
Been around since the release of the original Il-2 back in 2001, spammed the hell out of IL-2Skins Forum, made some **** paint schemes, made some even more **** campiagns, made a lot of new and great friends here, became a better lover (I like small wild animals that spit at you, don't you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif), stopped going to those 'Gentlemans Clubs' on a Friday Night (the knees couldn't take it anymore http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)......and lost loads of weight so I've now got the sexist elbow's this side of Belguim http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Yep i remember you as king spammer at il2skins m8 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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LStarosta
12-25-2006, 10:17 AM
I remember Boosher proclaiming his love of donuts on Hyperlobby.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Mackane1
12-25-2006, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
I remember Boosher proclaiming his love of donuts on Hyperlobby.

Donuts?....wasn't it Fritos and clam dip?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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DKoor
12-25-2006, 10:39 AM
Do you guys remember what was your very first plane that you flew in IL-2?
I remember this... it was Yak-1B in QMB. I've selected flight of Yaks vs. flight of Stukas + Me-109s. And it was actually the sound that gave me "wow!" impression. Sound of Ju-87 formation passing by head-on...

I was impressed by graphics more when I found out about F2 key ~1/2 hour later...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Yes it was a good time. And this sim has become, for some of us, more than just a game.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Hnefatafl
12-25-2006, 11:11 AM
Kuna/Dkoor, my first ride? Late 2001, early 2002 can't remember anymore. But it was a Me109-E4 in the first mission of a campaign, only flying circles above Berlin. No CH-throttle, no pedals, no trackir, no MSSWFF2 (got that a week later), only the Logitech Wingman 3D and keyboard for rudder. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
Took quite a while from halfroll and down to really taking off http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Fondest memory? Except from lurking in the original pilots lounge? The patch, that brought the F190A-8, the first online dogfight 2 years later and and and...

-HH- Beebop
12-25-2006, 11:24 AM
I remember my first flight with (the original) IL2, the P-39 vs. Stukas in bad weather. I couldn't control the P-39 for beans, lost the Stukas right after I saw them then found the ground. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Instead of being disappointed I kept trying. I thought this sim was SOOO much better than EAW which I had been flying for over a year. Then I discoverd the IL-2. The armor attack and the airfield raid in the QMB and I was hooked. I kept flying around after I ran out of ammo on externals going "Wow!.....Wow!....Wow!"

But Boosh, my fondest memory is when you and the Proud Birds of North America accepted me into your squadron. I had hardly ever flown online and never with other humans. Thanks to you and the PBNA I learned much. You guys helped me get this game running smoothly and helped me sort out comms. And, you made the sim even more fun. And, thanks to PBNA, I met Quazi and we later formed the HellHounds. I owe you Boosh.
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DuxCorvan
12-25-2006, 11:37 AM
BTW, Boosher, are you still writing? I remember you as a good storyteller. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

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hotspace
12-25-2006, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by buglord:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HotSpace:
Been around since the release of the original Il-2 back in 2001, spammed the hell out of IL-2Skins Forum, made some **** paint schemes, made some even more **** campiagns, made a lot of new and great friends here, became a better lover (I like small wild animals that spit at you, don't you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif), stopped going to those 'Gentlemans Clubs' on a Friday Night (the knees couldn't take it anymore http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)......and lost loads of weight so I've now got the sexist elbow's this side of Belguim http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Yep i remember you as king spammer at il2skins m8 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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PBNA-Boosher
12-25-2006, 07:05 PM
Beebop, you're very welcome, and thank you for the fun times we had hosting coops! (Sorry about all that flak in the "Dawn at Sea mission) I still remember the times when TS would fool around with your microphone and make your voice boom like God's in The Ten Commandments

And Dux, yes, I'm still writing. I found my way into a creative writing course, finally, at college, so that should be some fun. I've veered off a bit from the aviation, but I started a creative writing forum branching off of the Harry Potter community. It's growing fast. I've got to get back into aviation writing, It was another great way to connect with this game and the community.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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HotelBushranger
12-25-2006, 11:22 PM
Hmmm...memories...first would be initially trying out the demo after getting it off a mates PCPowerplay DVD, one of the Il-2 missions where you have to destroy German tanks on a beach. Took a bit to get into the air, and the plane was slow and sluggish. Nevertheless, with a load of VAP-250 I very happily roasted my colleagues.

My most memorable moment ever, one that'll stay with me for a long time, is one the same mission. I was in me Il-2 going parallel with the beach, bombing tanks, when my wingman suddenly shots "BREAK RIGHT!" Not an instant later, with practically no time to turn, my right wing was sheared off and in F2 I spied the victorious FW-190 flying away. I sort of just sat there for about 30 mins with my mouth open, thinking "Holy s*** this is insanely awesome".

And I was hooked ever since http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif However I haven't been playing really at all this year, no time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Another good memory is drawing a 10 minute online turn-fight against an La-7 in a P-40E. I had sweat dripping off me by the end of it, I was very immersed and very proud of my (smelly) self.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Bearcat99
12-26-2006, 12:02 AM
Great post Boosh.... I remember when I first came here. This was like another world to me. This was my first forum. The pilots lounge was a madhouse.... LOL. The first plane I flew was an IL2 of course. I still remember that one of the things initially that impressed me with IL2 was the sound and the "look". The way flak sounded when it exploded.... and the way the puffs of smoke seemed to disintegrate in the wind.. I remember watching a track and a P-39 had a wheel blown off by a flk burst ..... the first time I realized I not only had externals... but a pannable zoomable 360 degree external..... and the flybys.... the fact that if I was in too much of a spin bailing out was impossible..... inertia pinning me in the pit.... the first time I noticed the floating gunsight.. as opposed to the static ones I was used to. The first night on HL. I ran into Redwulf 1.... he helped me get off the ground.... the first personal skins I had.... Redtail P-39s & Las made by Painter.... Smoke Jags little short stories complete with illustrations..... RBJ...... The Pigs..... The AVG.. I actually thought of joining them for a hot minute.... but then I decided that since there was no Redtail presence here.... it was fertile ground. I have met more great folks, read more good books, spent more money and had more fun than I could have ever imagined I would that day in the sim aisle of the same Best Buy that I ironically wound up working PT at 3 years later, looking at this Russian sim.. IL2.... that I could now run since I upgraded my PII 233MHZ to a 1.4GHZ AMD...complete with a R900Pro and 768M of PC133RAM... all for the much anticipated CFS3 after having it recommended to me by a guy named Phil that I never saw again. After biting this apple.... everything else seemed like just a game.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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KaleunFreddie
12-26-2006, 01:19 AM
You pushed the right button here.... Out come the flags. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif.

Ah! 5 years.. of filling other planes with lead. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
Nothing much has changed, except now that I do this stuff in my sleep.
I'd think the best thing is to see the MS-Sim and FPS die-hards convert to IL2. (SH3 has had the same effect).
These are truely EPIC games that have kept me away from pub-crawling and other forms of entertainment http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif. After all when work is finished, it's a mad rush to get home to 'fly/sail'.

Well done to the Developers
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Friendly_flyer
12-26-2006, 04:01 AM
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trumper
12-26-2006, 04:53 AM
Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
I downloaded the original IL2 demo last night. I really had forgotten hown insanly intense attacking the Crimean airbase was and the joy of taking out enemy fighters with head-on passes!
Did you notice any difference with the FM and DM and the sound compared to todays great great grandchildren of the original version..I did retry the demo along time ago but it did'nt have Track ir so i struggled with it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

FlitGun
12-26-2006, 05:14 AM
Like Bearcat99, this was my first forum. IL2 original was the 1st online game I played on my own computer. <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] forums were the 1st I began to read. It took me a couple of years to work out that I needed to register. I was a complete computer noob (big time). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

I remember:

-going to a game shop to buy 'a combat flight sim'. Choosing IL2 simply because the screenies on the back of the box looked the best.

-getting home after buying IL2 and realising after setup that I needed a joystick http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

-being so totally baffled at all the keyboard controls.

-realising that having built plastic die-cast model aeroplanes as a kid did not give me the piloting edge I had imagined.

-being known on the <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">ubi[/b] servers.

-how entertaining the <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] 'chatbox' was between flights.

-names: TonyT, EyesBlack, Avingalaugh, Zebo, Stein, NZ_Tui, sean_penns_***, FU_Crash, Lerxster, Little-Red, Toxic_Tiger, SummerKing, Lifetap, Tatsit... and Badsight being new.

-being accused of vulching. I had vulched, for the first time, I didn't know it was frowned upon (I even didn't know the term 'vulch'), and I felt the wrath of some older hands come down on me. I was a bit scared. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif

-my first kill. I don't actually remember it, but I remember how elated I felt.

-news of the coming release of Forgotten Battles, the excitement I felt at that time has been unsurpassed to this day (for a software product I mean).

-having a week long sickie from work when I did get FB.

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Siwarrior
12-26-2006, 05:16 AM
Ahh my fav memory
When i first got it and my grandpa came in and exclaims
" Shoot that bugger down " ( points at stuka )http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

and when i used to fly P-40s nonstop online against anything, and the evil evil la7s and yak3s...which whenever i downed i cheered and made another stroke on my desk...

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BrewsterPilot
12-26-2006, 05:22 AM
Originally posted by Siwarrior:
Ahh my fav memory
When i first got it and my grandpa came in and exclaims
" Shoot that bugger down " ( points at stuka )http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

and when i used to fly P-40s nonstop online against anything, and the evil evil la7s and yak3s...which whenever i downed i cheered and made another stroke on my desk...

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jensenpark
12-26-2006, 05:35 AM
BC - you nailed it well...
Remember sitting bored at work at night and I stumbled accross this forum and was hooked by the screen shots, the stories and all the different (okay, downright strange) personalities.
Remember looking at a screenie of a He111 with the crew running away thinking "no way that is real - it's a doctored shot" - then finding out it was real.
First time on HL getting my clocked cleaned by the B239 (wft? killed by a buffalo?).
Learning that USSR planes were not all ****.
First time in a coop with BlairGowrie and others thinking "Holy ****, I'm flying and talking to others at the same time!". My favourite memory: the first time my wife rolled her eyes and muttered under her breath when I yelled at her to come see a Trak I made.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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FlitGun
12-26-2006, 05:52 AM
Originally posted by jensenpark:
the first time my wife rolled her eyes and muttered under her breath when I yelled at her to come see a Trak I made.

lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif sounds familiar<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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KaleunFreddie
12-27-2006, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by jensenpark:
My favourite memory: the first time my wife rolled her eyes and muttered under her breath when I yelled at her to come see a Trak I made.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

My wife says to me.. "The only time you're REALLY happy is when you're flying !!!"... "Surely not ??" I said. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Friendly_flyer
12-27-2006, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by trumper:
Did you notice any difference with the FM and DM and the sound compared to todays great great grandchildren of the original version.

Oh yes! The old 512x512 skins look dated, and the planes was much easier to handle. The AI isisted on doing head ons without fiering their guns, making them rather easy targets.

The most imediate difference was the flack though. The German 20mm exploded at set ranges, making very scary flack "carpets" to fly through.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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