PDA

View Full Version : It seems to me there are more things here getting shot at than the Bad guys



malcgr
02-03-2005, 08:26 AM
Hello Pacific fighter world my name is Malc and to some of you my third Post on here will make you happy but to some i will be joining the endless others known simply as complainers . I love this sim and all that it has to offer . There are flaws in it but so does most every game ever built I have flown sims since the advent of the Apache Gunship for the Commodore 64 I also work as a maintenece personel for aircraft But what i see on these forums kinda makes me worry about things We have a few in here that raises Red flags and next thing you know they have to duck and cover from the return fire from those that seem in awe of this sim and take an attitude of You shouldn't be complaining be happy with what you got Well that is all fine and good but hey to all those that are gearing up to frag my Post cause i agree with alot of people on here about certain things that are wrong with this game ut back to my Point lets say you flew on one of my aircraft and this certain day I decide heck i think I am done with this aircraft repair knowing full well its not even ready And let people board spend good money on tickets believing in there safety and sit there and watch it take off and head back for some coffee and donuts mean while your sitting in a chair on board at 35000ft and there is a massive failure and you and all aboard plummet to your death Boy i would love to able to take the attitude of the complainer killers or the whiner nay sayers and tell the remaining family members oh well its just a Plane deal with it So in ending my hat is off to all those who raise red flags and compalin and whine

over and out Malcgr

SgtBriggs
02-03-2005, 08:41 AM
wow..thats impressive. lets take a game and compare it to a catastrophe. imo thats just sick.

Tocca4
02-03-2005, 08:48 AM
This must've been the most horrid comparison i've ever read!
I really, really hope you're just kidding. Don't know if that would make it better though, it's a horrid joke if that's the case.

Yimmy
02-03-2005, 08:48 AM
A few full stops would be nice.

madsarmy
02-03-2005, 08:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Yimmy:
A few full stops would be nice. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A Stop before the "Hello" would have been Goodhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

DuxCorvan
02-03-2005, 09:02 AM
I tried to read it on loud voice, but I half-choked and got sick... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

papaboon
02-03-2005, 09:37 AM
*SIGH* Is it just me or does anyone else feel like Bill Murray in the movie "Groundhog Day" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

It's like the same thing day after day, after day...etc!

And yes, comparing faults in a game to an airplane crash with fatalities is just WRONG on so many levels http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Billy_BigBoy
02-03-2005, 09:51 AM
Well, at least he was trying to make a point...
But he failed...

LilHorse
02-03-2005, 10:15 AM
Boy, that was a really stupid post.

And, yeah, try using some punctuation next time. It will make you seem like somewhat less of a moron.

Texas LongHorn
02-03-2005, 10:19 AM
Hey papadoon, you can't compare this post to "Groundhog Day!" Andie McDowell is a much more fetching whiner! All the best, LongHorn

Extreme_One
02-03-2005, 10:25 AM
Hey - I spotted 2 full stops (periods http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)!

Just look where they appear...

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>. I love this sim and all that it has to offer . <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is that what they call a freudian slip?

Chuck_Older
02-03-2005, 10:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by malcgr:
Hello Pacific fighter world my name is Malc and to some of you my third Post on here will make you happy but to some i will be joining the endless others known simply as complainers . I love this sim and all that it has to offer . There are flaws in it but so does most every game ever built I have flown sims since the advent of the Apache Gunship for the Commodore 64 I also work as a maintenece personel for aircraft But what i see on these forums kinda makes me worry about things We have a few in here that raises Red flags and next thing you know they have to duck and cover from the return fire from those that seem in awe of this sim and take an attitude of You shouldn't be complaining be happy with what you got Well that is all fine and good but hey to all those that are gearing up to frag my Post cause i agree with alot of people on here about certain things that are wrong with this game ut back to my Point lets say you flew on one of my aircraft and this certain day I decide heck i think I am done with this aircraft repair knowing full well its not even ready And let people board spend good money on tickets believing in there safety and sit there and watch it take off and head back for some coffee and donuts mean while your sitting in a chair on board at 35000ft and there is a massive failure and you and all aboard plummet to your death Boy i would love to able to take the attitude of the complainer killers or the whiner nay sayers and tell the remaining family members oh well its just a Plane deal with it So in ending my hat is off to all those who raise red flags and compalin and whine

over and out Malcgr <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hiya http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Here's the problem with all that, though:

Does the power of your home PC limit the quality of the work you perform on aircraft airframes and powerplants? Obviously not

Does the power of the home PC limit a simulation designer in many areas? Obviously yes

If, on a certain day, you do all that you can do on an aircraft, given the tools you have, and knowingly do not do enough to rectify all problems, but you say it's fine, well, say hello to the FAA boys for me

If, on a certain day, a sim programmer does all he can, with the tools he has, to make a sim 'perfect' given the constraints of technology on that day, and he says 'it's all done', but two years later, technology takes a leap again, it's unrealistic to think that it's all going to be re-hashed to address a complaint with no proof to back it up

The sim is old PF uses an old sim engine.

The sim engine is doing things it wasn't designed to do, in PF

When you complain and have no basis for that complaint over your opinion, then I do not support that

When you complain and have proof that there's an issue, I support it

That's the difference between an 'issue' and a 'whine'

WorldShatterer
02-03-2005, 10:50 AM
I would like to be able to respond to the original post but the grammar was so bad I didn't understand any of it. Would someone please translate for me what malcgr actually said?

Thank you. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Catandra
02-03-2005, 11:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WorldShatterer:
I would like to be able to respond to the original post but the grammar was so bad I didn't understand any of it. Would someone please translate for me what malcgr actually said?

Thank you. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, I too, struggled laboriously to understand the incoherent ramblings of this confused person.

In English class, our teacher used to call it "a run-on sentence" that is, one without periods. His lack of understanding of capitalization further handicaps the poor unfortunate that attempts to read it.

However, after several readings, I think he is saying that Ubisoft's (premature?) release of Pacific Fighters is tantamount to manslaughter on an unparalled scale.

Seems a bit extreme to me... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

Extreme_One
02-03-2005, 11:19 AM
Good post Chuck - you put the rest of us to shame http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Billy_BigBoy
02-03-2005, 11:41 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

eddiemac0
02-03-2005, 05:05 PM
I've only been on these forums since November, and I think its the movie Groundhog day too. I've seen both legitimate and stupid complaints, and I'm getting sick of all of them, because they are all I see. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Chuck_Older
02-03-2005, 05:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Extreme_One:
Good post Chuck - you put the rest of us to shame http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
I have about one post like that a year. Now, back to our hero's regularly scheduled drivel:

"My nose makes it's own bubblegum!"

LEXX_Luthor
02-03-2005, 05:19 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I also work as a maintenece personel for aircraft <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LeadSpitter_
02-03-2005, 05:38 PM
Survey says stiglr?

initjust
02-03-2005, 05:50 PM
Oh no!

If it's Stiglr can Tagert be far behind?

3.JG51_BigBear
02-03-2005, 05:53 PM
Welcome to the forums. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Zneg1
02-03-2005, 06:10 PM
yeah just like you can make really gorgeous 1/48th scale model planes does not necessarily make you a great 3D modeler for games either. This goes for those doing 3d as well, it does not mean that you know your way around a 3d application does not mean you can do game 'hardware' modeling or do Pixar type of animations.

Not many people here fully know how hard and time consuming it is to do a fli-sim of this scale and make it work with many computer and video and sound configurations as well as RAM type and drivers! Surely we want all the planes that we want as well as all the tiny little fixes but like anything in life there are compromises and time involved.

Want a bomber? try modeling the cockpit interior with a photocopied reference file where you can barely see what you are looking at. If there are blueprints, you'll be lucky if they all agree http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SeminoleX
02-03-2005, 06:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>There are flaws in it <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Only group of words in the entire spiel that made any sense...but... considering the game, according to accepted gospel, is flawless and too, that it is only the players themselves that have flaws...then even that line is senseless....or blasphemy. You decide.

tenacioustanaka
02-03-2005, 08:13 PM
I know what this guy is doing, and it's brilliant.

It has to be the return of e.e. *******s. You know, the poet who never capitalized nor punctuated.

Got tired of writing screwed prose and decided to give the flight sim genre a try...guess old habits die hard. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

ImpStarDuece
02-03-2005, 08:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by malcgr:
Hello Pacific fighter world my name is Malc and to some of you my third Post on here will make you happy but to some i will be joining the endless others known simply as complainers . I love this sim and all that it has to offer . There are flaws in it but so does most every game ever built I have flown sims since the advent of the Apache Gunship for the Commodore 64 I also work as a maintenece personel for aircraft But what i see on these forums kinda makes me worry about things We have a few in here that raises Red flags and next thing you know they have to duck and cover from the return fire from those that seem in awe of this sim and take an attitude of You shouldn't be complaining be happy with what you got Well that is all fine and good but hey to all those that are gearing up to frag my Post cause i agree with alot of people on here about certain things that are wrong with this game ut back to my Point lets say you flew on one of my aircraft and this certain day I decide heck i think I am done with this aircraft repair knowing full well its not even ready And let people board spend good money on tickets believing in there safety and sit there and watch it take off and head back for some coffee and donuts mean while your sitting in a chair on board at 35000ft and there is a massive failure and you and all aboard plummet to your death Boy i would love to able to take the attitude of the complainer killers or the whiner nay sayers and tell the remaining family members oh well its just a Plane deal with it So in ending my hat is off to all those who raise red flags and compalin and whine

over and out Malcgr <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They are called paragraphs. Learn them and love them.

Treetop64
02-03-2005, 09:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by malcgr:
Hello Pacific fighter world my name is Malc and to some of you my third Post on here will make you happy but to some i will be joining the endless others known simply as complainers . I love this sim and all that it has to offer . There are flaws in it but so does most every game ever built I have flown sims since the advent of the Apache Gunship for the Commodore 64 I also work as a maintenece personel for aircraft But what i see on these forums kinda makes me worry about things We have a few in here that raises Red flags and next thing you know they have to duck and cover from the return fire from those that seem in awe of this sim and take an attitude of You shouldn't be complaining be happy with what you got Well that is all fine and good but hey to all those that are gearing up to frag my Post cause i agree with alot of people on here about certain things that are wrong with this game ut back to my Point lets say you flew on one of my aircraft and this certain day I decide heck i think I am done with this aircraft repair knowing full well its not even ready And let people board spend good money on tickets believing in there safety and sit there and watch it take off and head back for some coffee and donuts mean while your sitting in a chair on board at 35000ft and there is a massive failure and you and all aboard plummet to your death Boy i would love to able to take the attitude of the complainer killers or the whiner nay sayers and tell the remaining family members oh well its just a Plane deal with it So in ending my hat is off to all those who raise red flags and compalin and whine

over and out Malcgr <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dude, now that is one long, long run-on sentence... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

malcgr
02-04-2005, 07:47 AM
I am sorry

Billy_BigBoy
02-04-2005, 08:15 AM
Never mind, we're just a little bored, waiting for the magic patch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

marcocomparato
02-04-2005, 10:10 AM
i agree that every licensed user of this software has the right to criticize it or suggest flaws and possible fixes.

and ive worked in software publishing.

thats just a rule of thumb in the software industry and it is a bit silly when other licensed users flame to protect the game.

It is, however, the developer/designers perogitive to ignore all suggestions and create whatever they want - leaving the decision to purchase their software again to the consumer.

To my many varied nationals on this forum, this is the basis of our US system of capatilism (which is a great system unless exploited by the greedy) and a nature of free and public forums.

However, it is my opinion that this developer has consistently improved my software purchase, added where suggestions were possible, and continuously strived to please all of us as consumers to the extent of the game engine's capability and available budget. (try and get VivendiUniversal to patch a game they publish. see what happens)

I have not been more satisfied by a software developer in just about any other game ever. just my opinion.

but i totally believe in your right to have your opinions as well.

HerrGraf
02-04-2005, 09:36 PM
Anyone has a right to complain if they see that something is wrong with what they have purchased. However, if you are going to complain, then please present evidence that shows that the complaint is warrented. Perferably multiple examples of why you have a problem with the game. Historical references, screen shots, etc. Something other than "IMHO".
Please to be polite about what the problem is. Being vulgar only puts others on the defense, and makes them quit listening to what you have to say. A notation that you like the product but have a problem with one (?) small part of it wouldn't hurt any either.



"There is no racial, religious, ethnic, or cultural group that has a monopoly on saints or sinners, heroes or villians"

F4U_Flyer
02-04-2005, 09:52 PM
Bad comparison , i agree but the man or youngun has a point! Almost every post that has a complaint or even a question will get at least 3 or 4 snide posts about how its stupid or he should be happy with what he has.

Also there seems to be a lot of english majors around , not everyone is grammatically correct or even knows how to write a proper sentence. You have no idea if this person is too young or doesnt have a grasp of the languge or numerous other possibilities that could lead to poor writing skills. Im a buisness owner who does just fine but my skills are lacking in this area also.

I think the main point was to say lighten up , if your tired of the complaints , dont read or post in them and it will be no loss to you and it will scoot of the front page sooner!

My 2 cents!