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09-12-2006, 02:58 AM
ok so i found this X1 graphics card on the net...i also know that i have a x1 pcie slot on my dell motherboard!....will this do the trick? my specs are P4 2.80ghz 1 gig Ram....does anyone know....i've heard that the X1 card's are newish but then again i'm still a noob so it's all newish http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif thanks if anyone can help
(PNY NVIDIA Quadro NVS 285 - Graphics adapter - PCI Express x1 low profile - 128 MB DDR II - Digital Visual Interface (DVI)

09-12-2006, 08:50 AM
I'm afraid I'm not familiar with "X1". I would recommend staying with either Nvidia or ATI. Both offer many solutions for the budget minded user and the hardcore gamer. I myself own a BFG 7800GS which, in itself, is a beautiful card. The only problem being my CPU (Athlon XP) is old and is bottlenecking my card, but if you notice my screenshots from the game (examples in the Screenshot competition and my signature) I have 4x antialiasing and 8x aniscropic fitlering applied which provides a much better visual experience than my old Sapphire 9550 provided. Use the force wisely http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

09-12-2006, 09:13 AM
I believe the Quadro cards are mostly for CAD type work, not really for games. Also you'll need a LCD or higher end CRT with DVI connectors to use that card.

Than again, I haven't upgraded for a while (ATI x850 Pro) so haven't really looked into things much. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

09-13-2006, 06:33 PM
If you haven't used a PCI ex vid card, I would guess that any good one would show significantly better performance than the old AGP 8X slot cards.

I'm using a BFG Nvidia 6600 which works well, but is in an AGP4X slot. My next comp will have a PCI ex, or better.

09-13-2006, 07:24 PM
heys.. I run SH3 on a back up box not my main.

I purchased a 6800gt and it works like a charm with no issues and my system specs are similar to yours. You can get a 6800gt for less than 150. US.. so eh

my main rig is for FPS.. and completely different and believe it or not.. SH3 runs worse on it than my back up box but my F.E.A.R. BF2 and what not run worse on my old box. lol



09-13-2006, 07:45 PM
Dont waste your time with pci-e X1, its so hard to find cards for it, and all the better cards are for pci-e x16, so your better off just getting a new mobo (with a p4 your probabbly socket 775, check your system specs) that has a x16 slot, also for a new mobo be sure ur power supply has the corriponding slot (20 or 24) most mobos use a 24 pin connected so if u have one your in luck! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif (note that nvidia cards will only work on a mobo with a Nvidia chipset, and ATi cards will only work with a ATi chipset)

If you wanna stick with X1 heres a good card (it isnt compatable with nvidia chipsets though)
click here (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161017)

09-13-2006, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by Grrbob25:
(note that nvidia cards will only work on a mobo with a Nvidia chipset, and ATi cards will only work with a ATi chipset)
That's only true for SLI or Crossfire. It's not true for single cards.

Back to PCIe x1. A link between two PCIe devices consists of 1, 2, 4, 8, 12 or 16 bidirectional lanes. A lane is theoretically capable of 250MB/s in either direction. A link with 16 lanes (PCIe x16) is therefore theoretically capable of 250*16 = 4GB/s. Any PCIe card will fit any PCIe slot that is at least as large as it is, meaning a PCIe x16 slot will accomodate any PCIe card, but not vice versa (ie, a PCIe x1 slot will not take a PCIe x2 or larger card).

A PCIe x1 card then will physically fit in any PCIe slot, since there are no slots smaller than x1, but the card itself is limited to 250MB/s. This is roughly equivalent to AGP 1X (266MB/s). AGP 4X (1GB/s) is generally regarded as having the minimum sufficient bandwidth for high bandwidth graphics applications such as games. The few x1 cards currently available are not intended for 3D gaming and I suspect you'd be deeply disappointed with one.