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LEBillfish
08-09-2005, 10:31 PM
Hi All;

So many great ideas. Truly, if half of the suggestions made their way into the sim then this series would be so much more then it already is...(and that is one heck of a lot).

However, I have noticed how many of you are in actuality CFS sim fans, really doing all you can to sabotage any good idea presented....More so insuring it simply gets ignored not even looked at. Why? I don't know, maybe you are desperate for players there, or maybe in truth you simply find this sim the "all encompassing evil" you desire to destroy. Yet simply know your methods and tactics have worked IMLTHO.

No, I don't mean flooding 1c with bogus facts, nor advertising your sim of choice (CFS)...Your plan much more clever, as you know the tactic works and insures NOTHING gets done.

That tactic?...Quite simply, no matter how good the suggestion, even if it is something you would like....You instead flood every topic with your own personal hard on to insure only your own petty little whine gets discussed.

We've all seen it...Bob the Mosquito fan in every topic no matter what it's about stating "but where is the Mosquito, where is the Mosquito"...Naturally there is also the since FB came out tactic of flooding every topic with "well who cares about Japanese fighters?....50 caliber bullets don't sink battle ships like I know they must do!!!...here is my made up BS to support it!!"....

On and on.

Clever plan you CFS fans.....Stop any and all improvement on anything only muddling up every thread with your perpetual whines and fluff. Naturally anyone who could make changes simply giving up as the topic they were willing to address is quickly turned into a plethora of personal gripes and whines about things unrelated...

I just wanted to let you all know.........Bill Gates thanks you...good job http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

BBB_Hyperion
08-10-2005, 04:46 AM
CI can we have this Lady as Mod ?

Maybe she can do for this room where others failed yet.

LEXX_Luthor
08-10-2005, 05:42 AM
A real Developer ignores what gamers want, and offers them what they will like.

MEGILE
08-10-2005, 06:08 AM
But where is the Mosquito?

nakamura_kenji
08-10-2005, 06:47 AM
you right LEBillfish see it alot especailly when discuss japanese plane there always someone that pop up and want start talk about spitfire bf-109 or p51 .50 cal like as you say to them "well who cares about Japanese fighters" v_v you see also in oleg thread where he post it turn into bug thread even though there dedicate one ie person talk about how p51 got out turn by b25 v_v

VW-IceFire
08-10-2005, 07:04 AM
Billy's paying them off somewhere...

Who else would say that they actually liked CFS3 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

LEBillfish
08-10-2005, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by BBB_Hyperion:
CI can we have this Lady as Mod ?

NOOOOOOOO thank you. Been there done that, and will not waste another second of my life doing it.

MEGILE
08-10-2005, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Billy's paying them off somewhere...

Who else would say that they actually liked CFS3 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Me, and Bill hasn't sent me a cheque yet.

Sounds are brilliant, 3D models are good, and very good immersion.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Dexmeister
08-10-2005, 08:59 AM
Let me get this straight. You have a vendetta against CFS like most others in these forums, and so you choose to take a stab at anyone who likes that sim, even if they have suggestions that may improve this sim?

Broad sweeping generalizations not backed up by anything always fare well, don't they?

I've had fun playing both sims. PF/FB has surely been better in my mind, but I don't feel so loyal to FB that I need to **** all over anything else.

One thing for sure, the FS and CFS communities are a lot more open-minded, cooperative, and creative than those in this one. Then again, I guess that's to be expected considering this sim is locked down and CFS and FS aren't.

p1ngu666
08-10-2005, 09:20 AM
hm, you have links with trotskyism, ermm combat flight sim, u will be tried and sentanced to death/ban right away http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

i want teh mossie, probably my fave aircraft, deadly, potent and all that. but imagine what it did to teh leaders of german. <hitler>what do u mean theyve bombed berlin twice in daylight, on our aniversary http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

and teh heros of teh luftwaffe, cant catch a plane made of plywood and balsa http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

TAGERT.
08-10-2005, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by Dexmeister:
Let me get this straight. You have a vendetta against CFS like most others in these forums, and so you choose to take a stab at anyone who likes that sim, even if they have suggestions that may improve this sim?

Broad sweeping generalizations not backed up by anything always fare well, don't they?

I've had fun playing both sims. PF/FB has surely been better in my mind, but I don't feel so loyal to FB that I need to **** all over anything else.

One thing for sure, the FS and CFS communities are a lot more open-minded, cooperative, and creative than those in this one. Then again, I guess that's to be expected considering this sim is locked down and CFS and FS aren't. The *only* good thing about CFS is the ability to add user planes.
The bad thing about CFS is the ability to add user planes.

It is that simple, it is neat that a user can add planes, but allowing that to happen insures the flight sim will never make it popular online. In that the user can add a WWI plane with a F22 FM. That simple fact insures there will be someone online cheating, thus online play is surly never going to take off.. pun intended.

LEBillfish
08-10-2005, 09:40 AM
LMAO.....and so now it begins, this obviously a CFS thread now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


Ok hehe, lets try again....and I'll simplify it for those that get confused easily...

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">When you you post your own unrelated to the thread wants, gripes, an whines steering it off track it quickly becomes a thread that will be ignorred.

Doing it in every other thread insures nothing will get fixed and good idea's are ignorred.

In the end, the lack of rapid fixes/bug reporting is directly influenced by that.

So if you are doing the above....Stop....Though is probably too late at this point.</span>

Dexmeister
08-10-2005, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
LMAO.....and so now it begins, this obviously a CFS thread now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


Ok hehe, lets try again....and I'll simplify it for those that get confused easily...

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">When you you post your own unrelated to the thread wants, gripes, an whines steering it off track it quickly becomes a thread that will be ignorred.

Doing it in every other thread insures nothing will get fixed and good idea's are ignorred.

In the end, the lack of rapid fixes/bug reporting is directly influenced by that.

So if you are doing the above....Stop....Though is probably too late at this point.</span>

Thanks for clarifying your condescending and inaccurate point, now I'm sure I get it.

I'm not a CFS fanboy whatsoever, I just dislike dictatorial folks who are clearly closed-minded to anything that may come from CFS.

"When you post your own unrelated to the thread... yadda yadda"... So only CFS people post unrelated whines? No, I don't think so, there's lots of whiners that post unrelated facts in threads.

"Doing it in every other thread insures nothing will get fixed..." Yes, well posting legitimate bugs or errors in legitimate threads about bugs or errors doesn't yield much either. Once again, not just CFS people doing this. Besides, what do YOU know about how the dev team reviews threads and prioritizes what gets fixed?

"In the end, the lack of rapid fixes/bug reporting is directly influenced by that". According to who? And once again it's not just CFS folks interfering with the dev team's bug tracking, it's even *gasp* some of your fellow fanboys!

In summary, I think if your points were all directed at *posters* who flood threads with irrelevent info, I'd agree with you, but since you make it a clear stab against CFS fans, I just wanted to point out the inaccuracies of your point.

I get what you're saying, I just think it's unfounded and wrong, that's all.

BTW, I don't play either CFS anymore. I played PF until the latest patch, which brought me the "permanent gunsight view" "improvement"... So I'm not really partial to either. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

LEBillfish
08-10-2005, 10:26 AM
Dexmeister....consider this;

Deliberate sabotage of this sim using CFS as a rediculous subversive plot being the sole competitor.......Obviously there is no plot....and the off topic posts not meant to deliberately derail improvement....

So deliberately stated as though having paranoid delusions yet to still make the point and have it be entertaining at the same time...

Getting it now? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

ElAurens
08-10-2005, 11:08 AM
Billfish, yer killin' me here...

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LEXX_Luthor
08-10-2005, 11:44 AM
I already have Microsoft Windows, that's enough for me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

carguy_
08-10-2005, 12:51 PM
My points:

1.Open code means IL2 death,faster then it would be with closed due to hacks,cheats.
2.Oleg is the only guarantee that either side gets fully objective FM.Nothing gets passed him thus creates biggest likelyhood of the game being objective to all.
I trust him on every issue in the game more than anybody be it .50cal,fw190 bar,P38LLate.
The community proved him to be wrong more than once.He made changes according to proof.That is why I trust him.

OMK_Hand
08-10-2005, 01:52 PM
Q.E.D. lol...

LEBillfish, rarely has a point been so well proven to be right. S!

LeadSpitter_
08-10-2005, 02:02 PM
Theres nothing worse then conspiracy theories, people who been have been reading and researching wwii aircraft since the early 80s not for games just because they have a love for all fronts and wwii aircraft.

Im proud to be a cfs fan I enjoyed all the series cfs1 2 and yes even 3 with bears 1% fms and many of the aeroplaneheaven and shockwave addons, I also enjoy ms2004 and xplane 8.0 alot. Out of them all I do fly this game the most because currently it is without a doubt the only wwii dogfight sim out with the most online players and minimal cheating. What brought me to the il2 demo was people spamming the msn gaming zone get a real flight sim, fms never have been a strong point of il2 sturmovik, dms, tracer color brightness nor sound were pretty **** bad and still are. Stalls and online payloads are a huge improvement from cfs2 but the small square maps are a step backwards in the history of flight sims.

The main thing that brought me here was il2s anti cheating care, il2 difficulty selection locked cockpit, no target tracking aids, labels or external views.

I think there is more then enough mods here that can do the job and are, I just dont get some of their decisions on locking good threads, rather then removing the spammers and giving them a 3 day ban. I also do not get the choices of moving threads out of orr just by personal choice but leave 20 other similiar threads about other same game issues in orr.

han freak solo
08-10-2005, 02:56 PM
Wake me up when this ends. ZZZZZZZZZ....

Enforcer572005
08-11-2005, 12:00 AM
LEBill, you didnt happen to use a soviet female aces name as a callsign about 3 yrs ago, and maybe drive a jeep? You remind me of another lady who was incredibly knowing about the cfs sims and was the one who turned me on to this sim in its developement.

I loved cfs2 for about 2 yrs, especially the adon planes and ships which i really miss, but the FMB was a piece of Poopy, and it rarely worked wiht the adons properly, unless you went into the misn files and manually changed stuff. you had to get about a million adon improvements, fixes etc to actually enjoy the sim.

What good are adon planes if you cant use them properly because of a defective misn blder? CFS is totally unsupported by MS, who refuses to fix even the most extreme of bugs. I never saw things the way your describing, but i can appreciate the perspective.

LeadSpitter_
08-11-2005, 12:16 AM
billgatesfish?

http://www-etsi2.ugr.es/alumnos/mu01/img/bill-gates-tetas.jpg

faustnik
08-11-2005, 12:18 AM
Lead,

Too far dude, you'll get banned.

LeadSpitter_
08-11-2005, 01:00 AM
why becuase they have the same haircut?

x__CRASH__x
08-11-2005, 01:42 AM
IBTL!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

LeadSpitter_
08-11-2005, 01:43 AM
The End
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LEBillfish
08-11-2005, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
why becuase they have the same haircut?

LOL....BUNK!!!.....mine is much darker and thicker.....& I have no gray...I know, I see one I kill the bassid and pluck it out http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

LStarosta
08-11-2005, 10:51 AM
I believe the term is "ensure".

rnzoli
08-11-2005, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
However, I have noticed how many of you are in actuality CFS sim fans, really doing all you can to sabotage any good idea presented

Any leading product must build on its strenghts. Following into the footsteps of a lesser product is a sure way back to mediocracy, and given that product comes from largest software empire every, a sure way to a complete failure.

CFS-ish whine should go unheard, period.

LEBillfish
08-11-2005, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by rnzoli:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LEBillfish:
However, I have noticed how many of you are in actuality CFS sim fans, really doing all you can to sabotage any good idea presented

Any leading product must build on its strenghts. Following into the footsteps of a lesser product is a sure way back to mediocracy, and given that product comes from largest software empire every, a sure way to a complete failure.

CFS-ish whine should go unheard, period. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



LOL.......some of you just are NOT getting this, or are bigger jokers then I http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

joeap
08-11-2005, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Dexmeister:
BTW, I don't play either CFS anymore. I played PF until the latest patch, which brought me the "permanent gunsight view" "improvement"... So I'm not really partial to either. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Hey Dex what gunsight view are you talking about??