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Bearcat99
07-20-2005, 04:37 PM
Consider this as one $19.99 DVD multi front sim.
IL2 1946 is IL2 Forgotten Battles, The Aces Expansion Pack, Pacific Fighters, Pe-2, Sturmoviks over Manchuria and 46.. all on one DVD.

IL2 1946 http://content.vcommerce.com/products/576/7274576/main-150.jpg (http://www.gogamer.com/IL-2-Sturmovik-1946-Front-Page_stcVVproductId7274576VVcatId444710VVviewprod. htm)


Here is a list of what is available in IL2 1946...

This is what you get to fly in Sturmovik: 1946:

<span class="ev_code_RED">Allied Aircraft</span>
A-20C
A-20G
B-25J-1NA
Beaufighter
BI-1
BI-6
Buffalo MkI
Corsair Mk I
Corsair Mk II
Corsair Mk IV
F2A-2
F4F-3
F4F-4
F4U-1A
F4U-1C
F4U-1D
F6F-3 Late
F6F-5
FM-2
Hawk81A-2
Hurricane Mk II field mod
Hurricane Mk IIb
Hurricane Mk IIc
I-153 M-62
I-153P
I-16 Type 18
I-16 Type 24
I-16 Type 24 SPB
I-185 M-71
I-185 M-82A
I-250
IL-10
IL-2 1941 1.Series
IL-2 1941 2.Series
IL-2 1941 3.Series
IL-2 1941 field mod
IL-2Type3
IL-2Type3M
IL-2I
IL-2M 1942 1.Series
IL-2M 1942 Late Series
IL-2T
La-5
La-5F
La-5FN
La-7 3xB-20
La-7
La-7R
LaGG-3 1941 4.Series
LaGG-3 1942 29.Series
LaGG-3 1942 35.Series
LaGG-3 1943 66.Series
LaGG-3IT
LaGG-3RD
MiG-3 2xShVAK
MiG-3 2xUB
MiG-3 AM-35
MiG-3
MiG-3U
MiG-3ud
MiG-9 I-300
MiG-9 FS
Mosquito FB MK VI
Mustang Mk.III
P.11C
P-38J
P-38L
P-38L Late
P-39D-1
P-39D-2
P-39N
P-39N-1
P-39Q-1
P-39Q-10
P-400
P-40B
P-40C
P-40E
P-40E M-105 field mod
P-40M
P-47D
P-47D-10
P-47D-22
P-47D-27
P-51B-NA
P-51C-NT
P-51D-20NA
P-51D-5NT
P-63C-5
Pe-2 1.Series
Pe-2 110.Series
Pe-2 359.Series
Pe-2 84.Series
Pe-3
Pe-3bis
SBD-3
SBD-5
Seafire F MK III
Seafire L MK III
Spitfire HF MkIXe
Spitfire LF MkIXc CW
Spitfire LF MkIXe CW
Spitfire LF MkVb
Spitfire LF MKVb CW
Spitfire LF MkVc 2c
Spitfire LF MkVc 4c
Spitfire MkIXc 25lbs
Spitfire MkIXc
Spitfire MkIXe
Spitfire MkVb
Spitfire MkVb CW
Spitfire MkVIII
Spitfire MkVIII CW
TB-3 4M-17
TB-3 4M-34R
TB-3 4M-34R SPB
Tempest Mk.V
Tomahawk Mk.IIa
Tomahawk Mk.IIb
Yak-1
Yak-15
Yak-1B
Yak-3
Yak-3 VK-107
Yak-3P
Yak-3R
Yak-7A
Yak-7B 1941
Yak-7B 1942
Yak-9
Yak-9B
Yak-9D
Yak-9K
Yak-9M
Yak-9T
Yak-9U
Yak-9UT
YP-80

<span class="ev_code_BLUE">Axis Aircraft</span>
A6M2
A6M2-21
A6M2-N
A6M3
A6M5
A6M5a
A6M5b
A6M5c
A6M7-62
A6M7-63
Ar-234B-2
B-239
Bf-109E-4
Bf-109E-4B
Bf-109E-7Z
Bf-109E-7B
Bf-109F-2
Bf-109F-4
Bf-109G-10
Bf-109G-14
Bf-109G-2
Bf-109G-6
Bf-109G-6Late
Bf-109G-6AS
Bf-109K-4
Bf-109K-4C3
Bf-109Z
Bf-110G-2
D3A1
DO-335A-0
DO-335V-13
Fiat CR.42
Fiat G.50
FW-190A-4
FW-190A-5
FW-190A-5 1.65 ATA
FW-190A-6
FW-190A-8
FW-190A-9
FW-190D-9 1944
FW-190D-9 1945
FW-190F-8
G4M1-11
GO-229A-1
He-111H-2
He-111H-6
He-162A-2
He-162B
He-162C
Heinkel Lerche III B-2
Hurricane Mk.I
IAR.8O
IAR.81a
IAR.81c
J2M3
J2M5
J8A Gladiator
Ju-87B-2
Ju-87D-3
Ju-87D-5
Ju-87G-1
Ju-88A-4
Ki-100-I Ko
Ki-27 Ko
Ki-27 Otsu
Ki-43-Ia
Ki-43-Ib
Ki-43-Ic
Ki-43-II
Ki-43-II Kai
Ki-61-I Hei
Ki-61-I Ko
Ki-61-I Otsu
Ki-84-Ia
Ki-84-Ib
Ki-84-Ic
MC.200 Serie 3
MC.202 Serie III
MC.202 Serie VII
MC.202 Serie XII
MC.205V Serie I
MC.205V Serie III
Me-163B-1a
Me-262A-1a
Me-262A-1a/U4
Me-262A-2a
Me-262HG-II
N1K2-Ja
Ta-152C
Ta-152H-1
Ta-183

AI ONLY AIRCRAFT <span class="ev_code_RED">AlLLIED </span><span class="ev_code_GREEN">&</span> <span class="ev_code_BLUE">AXIS</span>

B_17D
B_17E
B_17F
B_17G
B_24J100
B_25C25
B_25G1
B_25H1
B_29
BLENHEIM4
F2A2
C_47
G_11
IL_4_DB3B
IL_4_DB3M
IL_4_DB3T
IL_4_DB3F
IL_4_IL4
LI_2
MBR_2AM34
PBN1
PE_2SERIES1
PE_2SERIES84
PE_2SERIES110
PE_2SERIES359
PE_3SERIES1
PE_3BIS
PE_8
R_10
SB_2M100A
SB_2M103
SU_2
TBF1
TBF1C
TBM3
TBM3AVENGER3
TU_2S
U_2VS
AR_196A3
B5N2
BF_110C4
BF_110C4B
BLENHEIM1
BLENHEIM4
FI_156
FW_189A2
FW_200C3U4
GLADIATOR1
GLADIATOR2
H8K1
HE_111Z
HS_129B2
HS_129B3Wa
J2M3
JU_52_3MG4E
JU_52_3MG5E
JU_88MSTL
KI_43_II
KI_43_IIKAI
KI_46_OTSU
KI_46_RECCE
KI_46_OTSUHEI
L2D
ME_210CA1
ME_210CA1ZSTR
ME_321
ME_323
MS406
MS410
MSMORKO
N1K1J
N1K1JA
P_36A3
P_36A4
Do-335A-0
Ju-88A4
Tempest MK.V
Mosquito FB.MK.VI
MC-200 III
MC-202 III
MC-202 VII
MC-202 XII
MC-205 I
MC-205 III
J2M3
Bf-109K4 C3
Spitfire MK.IX 25lbs
FW-190A5 1.65Ata
J2M5
N1K2-Ja
Mosquito F.MK.IV
MC-200 I
MC-200 VII
MC-200 VIIFB

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">In addition there are......</span>

Maps-70+ <span class="ev_code_GREEN">*</span>

Moving Objects <span class="ev_code_GREEN">*</span>
Armor-227
Vehicles-56
Trains-22
Ships-75

Stationary Objects: <span class="ev_code_GREEN">*</span>
Armour-61
Ships-74
Other Objects-173
Buildings etc-431

Placeable Static Cameras

ALSO.......

A full mission Builder that once you get past the outward complexity... and the lack of things like triggers notwithstanding that can fully utilize all of the above mentioned objects. In addition settable targets for Recon, Escort,Ground Attack,Air Attack,Take Off,Landing......

Add to that:
The ability to record viewable tracks either on the fly or after the mission is done.. depending on whether or not you are online.

24 settable levels of difficulty ranging from no death no crash no damage to locked in the cockpit with your head on a swivel.

Scalable controls for the guy with the $300 HOTAS setup... or the guy with the $39 bargain stick....

Scalable settings so that if you have a 4 year old CPU on a 4 year old video card you can fly..... if you have a top of the line mega system you can REALLY fly......

Offline or online play... with as many planes in the air as your CPU can handle... up to 128....

Stunning graphics that are almost photo realistic. Damage models that are un equaled in any WW2 era air combat simulator. AI that while stupid at times.. with the right mix of numbers and skill levels can present a challenge to just about anyone.

A clock that runs in real time. Run a mission offline. Set the time to your time.... park your plane and go to bed. When you wake up the next morning....

User made utilities that make up for some of the shortcomings in the sim... and some that just make the good things even it better.

I may have missed a thing or two but thats the gist of it. Not too shabby if you ask me.


This sim is not as perfect and all inclusive as some of us might like..... and yes.... there should absolutely be a flyable Avenger & Kate in here if there were only two other planes added.... but as this sim is right now it is a top notch product..... that is unequaled.

<sub><span class="ev_code_GREEN">*</span> This portion of this list was made prior to patch 4.03m more has been added in 1946 and in patch 4.08</sub>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif This sim is hands down the best WWII combat flight sim to date. You wont be sorry. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Bearcat99
07-20-2005, 04:37 PM
Consider this as one $19.99 DVD multi front sim.
IL2 1946 is IL2 Forgotten Battles, The Aces Expansion Pack, Pacific Fighters, Pe-2, Sturmoviks over Manchuria and 46.. all on one DVD.

IL2 1946 http://content.vcommerce.com/products/576/7274576/main-150.jpg (http://www.gogamer.com/IL-2-Sturmovik-1946-Front-Page_stcVVproductId7274576VVcatId444710VVviewprod. htm)


Here is a list of what is available in IL2 1946...

This is what you get to fly in Sturmovik: 1946:

<span class="ev_code_RED">Allied Aircraft</span>
A-20C
A-20G
B-25J-1NA
Beaufighter
BI-1
BI-6
Buffalo MkI
Corsair Mk I
Corsair Mk II
Corsair Mk IV
F2A-2
F4F-3
F4F-4
F4U-1A
F4U-1C
F4U-1D
F6F-3 Late
F6F-5
FM-2
Hawk81A-2
Hurricane Mk II field mod
Hurricane Mk IIb
Hurricane Mk IIc
I-153 M-62
I-153P
I-16 Type 18
I-16 Type 24
I-16 Type 24 SPB
I-185 M-71
I-185 M-82A
I-250
IL-10
IL-2 1941 1.Series
IL-2 1941 2.Series
IL-2 1941 3.Series
IL-2 1941 field mod
IL-2Type3
IL-2Type3M
IL-2I
IL-2M 1942 1.Series
IL-2M 1942 Late Series
IL-2T
La-5
La-5F
La-5FN
La-7 3xB-20
La-7
La-7R
LaGG-3 1941 4.Series
LaGG-3 1942 29.Series
LaGG-3 1942 35.Series
LaGG-3 1943 66.Series
LaGG-3IT
LaGG-3RD
MiG-3 2xShVAK
MiG-3 2xUB
MiG-3 AM-35
MiG-3
MiG-3U
MiG-3ud
MiG-9 I-300
MiG-9 FS
Mosquito FB MK VI
Mustang Mk.III
P.11C
P-38J
P-38L
P-38L Late
P-39D-1
P-39D-2
P-39N
P-39N-1
P-39Q-1
P-39Q-10
P-400
P-40B
P-40C
P-40E
P-40E M-105 field mod
P-40M
P-47D
P-47D-10
P-47D-22
P-47D-27
P-51B-NA
P-51C-NT
P-51D-20NA
P-51D-5NT
P-63C-5
Pe-2 1.Series
Pe-2 110.Series
Pe-2 359.Series
Pe-2 84.Series
Pe-3
Pe-3bis
SBD-3
SBD-5
Seafire F MK III
Seafire L MK III
Spitfire HF MkIXe
Spitfire LF MkIXc CW
Spitfire LF MkIXe CW
Spitfire LF MkVb
Spitfire LF MKVb CW
Spitfire LF MkVc 2c
Spitfire LF MkVc 4c
Spitfire MkIXc 25lbs
Spitfire MkIXc
Spitfire MkIXe
Spitfire MkVb
Spitfire MkVb CW
Spitfire MkVIII
Spitfire MkVIII CW
TB-3 4M-17
TB-3 4M-34R
TB-3 4M-34R SPB
Tempest Mk.V
Tomahawk Mk.IIa
Tomahawk Mk.IIb
Yak-1
Yak-15
Yak-1B
Yak-3
Yak-3 VK-107
Yak-3P
Yak-3R
Yak-7A
Yak-7B 1941
Yak-7B 1942
Yak-9
Yak-9B
Yak-9D
Yak-9K
Yak-9M
Yak-9T
Yak-9U
Yak-9UT
YP-80

<span class="ev_code_BLUE">Axis Aircraft</span>
A6M2
A6M2-21
A6M2-N
A6M3
A6M5
A6M5a
A6M5b
A6M5c
A6M7-62
A6M7-63
Ar-234B-2
B-239
Bf-109E-4
Bf-109E-4B
Bf-109E-7Z
Bf-109E-7B
Bf-109F-2
Bf-109F-4
Bf-109G-10
Bf-109G-14
Bf-109G-2
Bf-109G-6
Bf-109G-6Late
Bf-109G-6AS
Bf-109K-4
Bf-109K-4C3
Bf-109Z
Bf-110G-2
D3A1
DO-335A-0
DO-335V-13
Fiat CR.42
Fiat G.50
FW-190A-4
FW-190A-5
FW-190A-5 1.65 ATA
FW-190A-6
FW-190A-8
FW-190A-9
FW-190D-9 1944
FW-190D-9 1945
FW-190F-8
G4M1-11
GO-229A-1
He-111H-2
He-111H-6
He-162A-2
He-162B
He-162C
Heinkel Lerche III B-2
Hurricane Mk.I
IAR.8O
IAR.81a
IAR.81c
J2M3
J2M5
J8A Gladiator
Ju-87B-2
Ju-87D-3
Ju-87D-5
Ju-87G-1
Ju-88A-4
Ki-100-I Ko
Ki-27 Ko
Ki-27 Otsu
Ki-43-Ia
Ki-43-Ib
Ki-43-Ic
Ki-43-II
Ki-43-II Kai
Ki-61-I Hei
Ki-61-I Ko
Ki-61-I Otsu
Ki-84-Ia
Ki-84-Ib
Ki-84-Ic
MC.200 Serie 3
MC.202 Serie III
MC.202 Serie VII
MC.202 Serie XII
MC.205V Serie I
MC.205V Serie III
Me-163B-1a
Me-262A-1a
Me-262A-1a/U4
Me-262A-2a
Me-262HG-II
N1K2-Ja
Ta-152C
Ta-152H-1
Ta-183

AI ONLY AIRCRAFT <span class="ev_code_RED">AlLLIED </span><span class="ev_code_GREEN">&</span> <span class="ev_code_BLUE">AXIS</span>

B_17D
B_17E
B_17F
B_17G
B_24J100
B_25C25
B_25G1
B_25H1
B_29
BLENHEIM4
F2A2
C_47
G_11
IL_4_DB3B
IL_4_DB3M
IL_4_DB3T
IL_4_DB3F
IL_4_IL4
LI_2
MBR_2AM34
PBN1
PE_2SERIES1
PE_2SERIES84
PE_2SERIES110
PE_2SERIES359
PE_3SERIES1
PE_3BIS
PE_8
R_10
SB_2M100A
SB_2M103
SU_2
TBF1
TBF1C
TBM3
TBM3AVENGER3
TU_2S
U_2VS
AR_196A3
B5N2
BF_110C4
BF_110C4B
BLENHEIM1
BLENHEIM4
FI_156
FW_189A2
FW_200C3U4
GLADIATOR1
GLADIATOR2
H8K1
HE_111Z
HS_129B2
HS_129B3Wa
J2M3
JU_52_3MG4E
JU_52_3MG5E
JU_88MSTL
KI_43_II
KI_43_IIKAI
KI_46_OTSU
KI_46_RECCE
KI_46_OTSUHEI
L2D
ME_210CA1
ME_210CA1ZSTR
ME_321
ME_323
MS406
MS410
MSMORKO
N1K1J
N1K1JA
P_36A3
P_36A4
Do-335A-0
Ju-88A4
Tempest MK.V
Mosquito FB.MK.VI
MC-200 III
MC-202 III
MC-202 VII
MC-202 XII
MC-205 I
MC-205 III
J2M3
Bf-109K4 C3
Spitfire MK.IX 25lbs
FW-190A5 1.65Ata
J2M5
N1K2-Ja
Mosquito F.MK.IV
MC-200 I
MC-200 VII
MC-200 VIIFB

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">In addition there are......</span>

Maps-70+ <span class="ev_code_GREEN">*</span>

Moving Objects <span class="ev_code_GREEN">*</span>
Armor-227
Vehicles-56
Trains-22
Ships-75

Stationary Objects: <span class="ev_code_GREEN">*</span>
Armour-61
Ships-74
Other Objects-173
Buildings etc-431

Placeable Static Cameras

ALSO.......

A full mission Builder that once you get past the outward complexity... and the lack of things like triggers notwithstanding that can fully utilize all of the above mentioned objects. In addition settable targets for Recon, Escort,Ground Attack,Air Attack,Take Off,Landing......

Add to that:
The ability to record viewable tracks either on the fly or after the mission is done.. depending on whether or not you are online.

24 settable levels of difficulty ranging from no death no crash no damage to locked in the cockpit with your head on a swivel.

Scalable controls for the guy with the $300 HOTAS setup... or the guy with the $39 bargain stick....

Scalable settings so that if you have a 4 year old CPU on a 4 year old video card you can fly..... if you have a top of the line mega system you can REALLY fly......

Offline or online play... with as many planes in the air as your CPU can handle... up to 128....

Stunning graphics that are almost photo realistic. Damage models that are un equaled in any WW2 era air combat simulator. AI that while stupid at times.. with the right mix of numbers and skill levels can present a challenge to just about anyone.

A clock that runs in real time. Run a mission offline. Set the time to your time.... park your plane and go to bed. When you wake up the next morning....

User made utilities that make up for some of the shortcomings in the sim... and some that just make the good things even it better.

I may have missed a thing or two but thats the gist of it. Not too shabby if you ask me.


This sim is not as perfect and all inclusive as some of us might like..... and yes.... there should absolutely be a flyable Avenger & Kate in here if there were only two other planes added.... but as this sim is right now it is a top notch product..... that is unequaled.

<sub><span class="ev_code_GREEN">*</span> This portion of this list was made prior to patch 4.03m more has been added in 1946 and in patch 4.08</sub>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif This sim is hands down the best WWII combat flight sim to date. You wont be sorry. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

fordfan25
07-20-2005, 04:40 PM
in the words of Red Fox. "thank you,for that unsalisated testomonel" "sanford and son"

Mescof1
07-20-2005, 04:41 PM
Agree Bear! Starting to panic here. Always planned on buying a back up set just to have in case something goes wrong with one of my CD's.

Sim is just too good not to have a backup.

Mescoff

Capt_Kernel
07-20-2005, 05:16 PM
Good Point Bearcat. A whole lot of meat without much filler. But Geez.. man you must have alot of time on your hands..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Tallyho1961
07-20-2005, 05:59 PM
An excellent point that deserves to be re-presented from time-to-time, lest some forget.

I've yet to come across better value than the few bucks I've spent on the IL2 series.

Well said, Bearcat!

ytareh
07-20-2005, 06:54 PM
Here here Bearcat!And mescof1 im glad Im not the only one who's considered getting "Backups" for their IL2 collection.Like its gotta be worth gettin' the AEP anyway as it gets rarer.And a gold pack seems like a good investment even for those who already have the full set.You never know when a drive will mangle a disc!!!(Ive just bought my third copy of Wings of War,the WW1 "sim"-we all have our dark secrets!!!)I think it might be a bit early to start worrying about Il2,FB or PF availability they seem to be in widespread supply.Its a shame(bargain)how the original Il2 languishes in the bargain bins at 5 euro/pounds/bucks.There CANT be a better way to spend that kinda cash!!!And while its often said it bears repeating the original Il2 was the momma of them all .And is still more than able to hold its own-Ive no doubt it will kick the A** off the forthcoming(?-their "two weeks" lasts 2 months!!!)BOB2 Rowan rehash.

A.K.Davis
07-20-2005, 06:55 PM
ahem...Buffalo, 38L late, Ki-100...

Tully__
07-20-2005, 07:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by A.K.Davis:
ahem...Buffalo, 38L late, Ki-100... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
There's always a sad sack http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

(p.s. CAC Boomerang, Mosquito http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

Bearcat99
07-20-2005, 07:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by A.K.Davis:
ahem...Buffalo, 38L late, Ki-100... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yah I know I missed some stuff... there is just too much for me to get everything.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

shinden1974
07-20-2005, 07:51 PM
think AK Davis meant that bearcat forgot the 4.01m planes already in there:

got the betty under blue flyable

but missed: spitfire Vc(2 and 4 cannon), in addition to Ki-100, P-38L late and buffalo and...the ai TEMPEST!!
...the ohka and it's betty carrier

he got the mustang III though...guess the others don't rate! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif sure he just forgot in the massive number of planes available...

good point anyways...thanks bearcat.

Tully__
07-20-2005, 08:06 PM
And I'm supposed to be an expert http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

LEXX_Luthor
07-20-2005, 09:07 PM
Yough Go Bear!

Although, the greatest dollar to mass ratio for me must be the StrikeFighters, as I recently spent 10$ for the jewelcase CD, and with all the 3rd Panty mods out there and the map creation tool, spending much time trying to twist it into 1948-1968 high altitude high speed strategic bomber/interception simulation. The game engine was NOT made for this. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif But, there is nothing else to work with.

mmm that's not really true, I am using a few components from Wings Over Vietnam extension, which cost 20$, so thats 30$ total. Never mind spending near 200$ for a number of Yefim's books and a sweet book about Cold War attacks against mainly B-50s and B-47s. B-45s too. Lots of interesting stuff out there.

Mescof1
07-20-2005, 09:13 PM
Just got back from checking all over town. Live in "sticks" so rode into town to check.

Can find the Ace's Expansion Pack everywhere. But, no original "Forgotten Battles" or the "Gold Pack." Was told by two different places that the original Forgotten Battles and the Gold pack have been discontinued!!! May have to go to Dallas.

Panic setting in for getting backups--wil pay $5000.00 in gold or trade 100 barrels of Oke Sweet Crude for complete unused set.

Mescoff
"Deep in the Heart of Texas"

Tully__
07-20-2005, 10:43 PM
EB will probably tell you they're discontinued, but other stores still regularly replenish their stock... go figure. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

AerialTarget
07-20-2005, 11:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Stunning grphics that are almost photorealistic </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Er, no... However many strong points this game has, graphics is not one of them. Have you ever seen Lock On: Modern Air Combat?

Bearcat99
07-21-2005, 05:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AerialTarget:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Stunning grphics that are almost photorealistic </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Er, no... However many strong points this game has, graphics is not one of them. Have you ever seen Lock On: Modern Air Combat? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Errrr YAH!!! Stunning graphics....... if LOMAC is the only thing you can come up with to compare the graphics of this sim... this basically 6 year old engine... then I think it is saying a lot about it, apparently more than you would like to ...... I HAVE LOMAC so yeah... I have seen the grphics... and they are quite good also.... I notice how people are now beginning to restrict all comparisons of this sim to LOMAC..... Which is like comparing two different citrus fruits..... For you to go as far as to say that the graphics are not one of the strong points of this sim tells me that you are either blind, have a $hitty rig..(no crime...),dont have your rig set up properly, or you are one of those people who always look at glasses as half empty rather than half full, sees the why instead of the why not, and will never truly be satisfied with anything because all you see is the deficit in everything.

Ranger_80
07-21-2005, 06:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AerialTarget:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Stunning grphics that are almost photorealistic </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Er, no... However many strong points this game has, graphics is not one of them. Have you ever seen Lock On: Modern Air Combat? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah they are better, but at what cost?
The product was prematurely forced out the door and runs much worse than it should. IL2 has been definately more playable for more people for more systems for more years.

triggerhappyfin
07-21-2005, 08:49 AM
Into what perspective?...Into a perspective where wishes and discussions are forbidden?

Hope not.

Bolt40
07-21-2005, 09:50 AM
My turn to piss on the cheerios..AI planes dont mean jack to me..dont list 'em http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif now ..I want YOU ALL to Count the many VARIANTS of 1 plane thats listed as flyable . I'll say it for you ..it's too freakin many ..it's easy to copy the code off one plane & just add to it as opposed to building an all new plane . Not only that ..but whats with the Uber planes that had no impact AT ALL on the war ? you know the ones I speak of . the energy spent on all the variants & uber planes could have been spent on planes like the Ju88 , Pe2 , Hs129 among others , and lets dont talk about the crappy *** engine sounds ..Bearcat don't tell me that a Merlin sounds like that Murray lawnmower that we have now..I know what a Merlin , Allison , Pratt & Whitney & DB series engines sounds like..it's a shame that we have all these pretty planes with crappy engine sounds ,too bad we can't fix the soundpack ourselve . Now moving on to PTO , alot of us Yanks & Brits are not happy with no torp bombers ..they and a few others should be added before Oleg files for divorce and runs off with BoB http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

ReligiousZealot
07-21-2005, 10:01 AM
I'd have to say, Bolt, I feel your pain yet I agree with Bearcat - there's just too much in this sim to overlook. It's better to view the glass as half-full, not half-empty. Despite the lack of excellent engine sounds or various flyable aircraft, this series is excellent in what it attempts to do. I still haven't given up hope on seeing another expansion pack or patches add the much wanted and whined for things...PF+FB+AEP still has a lot of life left in it, so if Ubisoft will see that they can still produce a substantial income from it *cough cough letter written by community cough* they may be willing to allow Oleg and team or another trusted team to produce additional content for it.

Hoarmurath
07-21-2005, 10:02 AM
Lock on, better? not really. It's always disturbing to fly at mach 2 over water and not see a riddle at the surface.

Lock on is nice, different, but better? nope.

Michcich_303
07-21-2005, 10:05 AM
Sure, comparisons are limited to LOMAC because LOMAC (and particularly Flaming Cliffs) is Oleg`s ***** of conscience - it shows what FB/PF could have been in terms of realism if Oleg didn`t make some "strategically" wrong choices: quantity instead of quality of AC and fps market instead of hardcore sim market.

This should be reminded constantly if anyone here wants BoB to be a sim.

MiamiEagle
07-21-2005, 10:53 AM
Bearcat99 you are right. This is a great Sim without doubt. You are also very bais and that obscure your objectivity. Yes the sceneries are of good quality but they are also not as well adapted for the Pacific Theater or the Western Front.

Your list those have a large number of high quality World war two planes. But I did notice a lack of aduaquate list of Pacific Theater planes, especially Japanese.

So its far from complete. While it those represent the Eastern Front adequatly its still comes short of what its require for the completion of this sereie.

I have always said that if you give us a more complete list of Pacific planes and maps the better position you will be to start the new Series.

Satifaction will only make us hungrier for the next meal.

If I did not care I would not have written this post.

Miamieagle

Rebel_Yell_21
07-21-2005, 11:29 AM
The game is what it is. What it is, is up to you.

No game will ever be everything I want.

More importantly, no matter where you go, ...there you are.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

triggerhappyfin
07-21-2005, 12:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rebel_Yell_21:
The game is what it is. What it is, is up to you.

No game will ever be everything I want.

More importantly, no matter where you go, ...there you are.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Beeing satisfied with what you got..never want to get more?? You must be a happy guy living in such simple world http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif.

Actually things wont change without ppl expressing their thoughts and wishes. The main issue is that those wishes and wants to improvemt should not be flamed upon.

AFJ_Locust
07-21-2005, 01:50 PM
and all of that dosent mean beandip now after 401 the patch that ruined it all.


by 4 now

Rebel_Yell_21
07-21-2005, 03:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by triggerhappyfin:

Beeing satisfied with what you got..never want to get more?? You must be a happy guy living in such simple world http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif.

Actually things wont change without ppl expressing their thoughts and wishes. The main issue is that those wishes and wants to improvemt should not be flamed upon. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't believe I said I was satisfied. In fact, I believe I mentioned that no game would ever be everything I want. I am not even remotely "satisfied" with this game. I enjoy it, and there isn't anything better, but there is list as long as your arm of things that could be so much better.

There should absolutely be discussion of thoughts and wishes, without flames. Just like there should be the occasional post with a bit of levity intended when folks are getting testy, without flames.

Bolt40
07-21-2005, 06:16 PM
Word Rebel...word http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Mescof1
07-21-2005, 06:24 PM
Wow! Finally found my backups... Spent all morning on the phone:
Babbages=discontinued;
Best Buy=discontinued;
Hastings=discontinued;
Gamestop=discontinued;
EBGames=discontinued;

CompUSA=BINGO! They had one copy of Gold Pack. Wife is mad tonight---had her drive 140 miles to get my backups.

Seriously, Forgotten Battles is getting hard to get in my area--extremely hard to get. I'm sure it's still available on the net. If you want backups I would suggest rounding them up now.

S
Mescoff

shinden1974
07-21-2005, 06:59 PM
Well, my definition of whether a game/sim (your preference) is great or not is a question: having fun yet?

It's good to be cranky about little tidbits and missing content, I am...but it's important to remember that this product was made to sell to the general public, not to please two or three guys and their love for one aircraft and it's absolute perfect model in perfect environment in one tiny theater of the war.

There's nothing wrong with compromise and changes to please some of the public and potentialy make more money...there is something wrong with thinking that some game developer owes you an airplane and the perfect sim, he doesn't.

In my fantasy world, Oleg is from Hawaii, built a sim called 'TBF Avenger' and models every plane and ship in the pacific, no 190's, few spits, La-7 comes with the 'AEP near china' add-on, and everyone here is begging 'more german planes!!'

Bearcat99
07-21-2005, 07:32 PM
No bias at all here.. Im just enjoying what I have... it could always be better.... but at the moment... there is no "better" WW2 sim... just sims with different stuff in them....

I.m having fun.. thats what matters to me.... if you arent.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

sakai2005
08-08-2005, 06:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Consider this as one $49.98 to $119.97(depending on when and/or where you buy/bought.. it could be less than that today) CD multi front sim.


FB ACES GOLD pack. http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00018RR6G.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg Pacific Fightershttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0002AL1YW.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg


Here is a list of what is available in the full merged version FB + Aces + PF + patches as far as available aircraft go:

FLYABLE RED PLANES
A_20G
B_25J1
BEAU21
Brewster Buffalo
BI_1
F4F3
F4F4
F4F_FM2
F4U1A
F4U1C
F4U1D
F4UCORSAIR1
F4UCORSAIR2
F4UCORSAIr
F6F3
F6F5
HurricaneMkIIb
HurricaneMkIIc
HurricaneMkIIbMod
I_153_M62
I_153P
I_16TYPE18
I_16TYPE24
I_16TYPE24DRONE
I_185M71
I_185M82A
IL_2_1940Early
IL_2_1940Late
IL_2_1941Early
IL_2_1941Late
IL_2I
IL_2MEarly
IL_2MLate
IL_2Type3
IL_2Type3M
IL_2T
LA_5
LA_5F
LA_5FN
LA_7
LA_7B20
LAGG_3SERIES4
LAGG_3SERIES29
LAGG_3SERIES35
LAGG_3SERIES66
LAGG_3IT
MIG_3EARLY
MIG_3SHVAK
MIG_3AM38
MIG_3U
MIG_3UB
MIG_3UD
P_38J
P_38L
P-38L Late
P_39D1
P_39D2
P_39N
P_39Q1
P_39Q10
P_400
P_40E
P_40EM105
P_40M
P_47D10
P_47D22
P_47D27
P_51B
P_51C
P_51D5NT
P_51D20NA
Mustang MkIII
P_63C
P_80A
SBD3
SBD5
SEAFIRE3
SEAFIRE3F
SPITFIRE5B
SPITFIRE5BCLP
SPITFIRE5BLF
SPITFIRE5BLFCLP
Spitfire5c
SPITFIRE8
SPITFIRE8CLP
SPITFIRE9C
SPITFIRE9CCLP
SPITFIRE9E
SPITFIRE9ECLP
SPITFIRE9EHF
TB_3_4M_17
TB_3_4M_34R
TB_3_4M_34R_SPB
YAK_1
YAK_1B
YAK_3
YAK_3P
YAK_7A
YAK_7B
YAK_9
YAK_9B
YAK_9D
YAK_9K
YAK_9M
YAK_9T
YAK_9U
YAK_9UT

AI ONLY RED PLANES
B_17D
B_17E
B_17F
B_17G
B_24J100
B_25C25
B_25G1
B_25H1
B_29
BLENHEIM4
F2A2
C_47
G_11
IL_4_DB3B
IL_4_DB3M
IL_4_DB3T
IL_4_DB3F
IL_4_IL4
LI_2
MBR_2AM34
PBN1
PE_2SERIES1
PE_2SERIES84
PE_2SERIES110
PE_2SERIES359
PE_3SERIES1
PE_3BIS
PE_8
R_10
SB_2M100A
SB_2M103
SU_2
Tempest
TBF1
TBF1C
TBM3
TBM3AVENGER3
TU_2S
U_2VS

FLYABLE BLUE PLANES
A6M2
A6M2_21
A6M2_N
A6M3
A6M5
A6M5A
A6M5B
A6M5C
A6M7_62
A6M7_63
BF_109E4
BF_109E4B
BF_109E7
BF_109E7NZ
BF_109F2
BF_109F4
BF_109G2
BF_109G6
BF_109G6Late
BF_109G6AS
BF_109G10
BF_109G14
BF_109K4
BF_109Z
BF_110G2
CR_42
D3A1
F2A_B239
FW_190A4
FW_190A5
FW_190A6
FW_190A8
FW_190A8MSTL
FW_190A9
FW_190D9
FW_190D9LATE
FW_190F8
TA_152H1
G4M1_11
G50
GLADIATOR1J8A
GO_229A1
HE_111H2
HE_111H6
HE_162A2
HurricaneMkIa
IAR_80
IAR_81A
IAR_80C
JU_87B2
JU_87D3
JU_87D5
JU_87G1
KI_43_IA
KI_43_IB
KI_43_IC
KI_61_IKO
KI_61_IHEI
KI_61_IOTSU
KI_84_IA
KI_84_IB
KI_84_IC
KI_100
ME_163B1A
ME_262A1A
ME_262A1AU4
ME_262A2A
P_11C

AI ONLY BLUE PLANES
AR_196A3
B5N2
BF_110C4
BF_110C4B
BLENHEIM1
BLENHEIM4
FI_156
FW_189A2
FW_200C3U4
GLADIATOR1
GLADIATOR2
H8K1
HE_111Z
HS_129B2
HS_129B3Wa
J2M3
JU_52_3MG4E
JU_52_3MG5E
JU_88A4
JU_88MSTL
KI_43_II
KI_43_IIKAI
KI_46_OTSU
KI_46_RECCE
KI_46_OTSUHEI
L2D
ME_210CA1
ME_210CA1ZSTR
ME_321
ME_323
MC_202
MS406
MS410
MSMORKO
N1K1J
N1K1JA
P_36A3
P_36A4

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">In addition there are......</span>

Maps-70

Moving Objects

Armor-227
Vehicles-56
Trains-22
Ships-75

Stationary Objects:
Armour-61
Ships-74
Other Objects-173
Buildings etc-431

Static Cameras

ALSO.......

A full mission Builder that once you get past the outward complexity... and the lack of things like triggers notwithstanding that can fully utilize all of the above mentioned objects. In addition settable targets for Recon, Escort,Ground Attack,Air Attack,Take Off,Landing......

Add to that:
The ability to record viewable tracks either on the fly or after the mission is done.. depending on whether or not you are online.

24 settable levels of difficulty ranging from no death no crash no damage to locked in the cockpit with your head on a swivel.

Scalable controls for the guy with the $300 HOTAS setup... or the guy with the $39 bargain stick....

Scalable settings so that if you have a 4 year old CPU on a 4 year old video card you can fly..... if you have a top of the line mega system you can REALLY fly......

Offline or online play... with as many planes in the air as your CPU can handle... up to 128....

Stunning grphics that are almost photorealistic. Damage models that are un equalled in any WW2 era air combat simulator. AI that while stupid at times.. with the right mix of numbers and skill levels can present a challenge to just about anyone.

A clock that runs in real time. Run a mission offline. Set the time to your time.... park your plane and go to bed. When you wake up the next morning....

User made utilities that make up for some of the shortciomings in the sim... and some that just make the good things even it better.

I may have missed a thing or two but thats the gist of it. Not too shabby if you ask me.


This sim is not perfect and as all inclusive as some of us might like..... and yes.... there should absolutely be an Avenger in here if there were only one other plane added.... but as this sim is right now it is a top notch product..... that is unequalled.

I just thought that had to be said....... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">there ya happy......</span> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


holly cow thats about 180 planes flyable.ill be flying this for years.never realized there are that many.for what i payed thats like 60 cents per plane for unlimted fun.

LeadSpitter_
08-08-2005, 07:35 PM
so roughly 25 red flyables planes 2-6 varients of each. 21 blue flyables 2-4 varients each.

when we bought them they cost 29 FB 29 AEP 40 for PF.

Now you can even pick up the series on ebay for under 5-20 dollars but theres not much left there.

I dont think we can compair the ammount of stuff in other sims but as for a dogfighting game nothing offers this many ac but also nothing cost the original price of fb aep pf merged.

I really dont think this game can be compaired to cfs3 and fs2004 theres multiple millions of addon aircraft, map meshes, sounds, campaigns, weather, game effects, plus its full global terrain and changing weather.

I agree with you theres no competition at all for this dogfighting first person shooter and low alt graphically.

It definatly go down in history as one of the greats following EAW, Janes WWII FIGHTERS, CFS, WARBIRDS, ACES HIGH

Xiolablu3
08-20-2005, 05:37 PM
Wow that list is pretty amazing when u list them all like that BC http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

goshikisen
08-20-2005, 07:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by triggerhappyfin:
Actually things wont change without ppl expressing their thoughts and wishes. The main issue is that those wishes and wants to improvemt should not be flamed upon. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

When people no longer post their wishes for the series (or are browbeaten into not posting theirs wishes) is when IL2 has truly run its course. Wishes = interest. It amazes me that people get defensive because other enthusiasts see unrealized potential in the series.

Gogling
08-21-2005, 04:09 AM
no bias here?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

marhkimov
01-14-2006, 04:06 AM
This thread is still worth something, because it just convinced me to buy PF.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

SeaFireLIV
01-14-2006, 05:37 AM
Looking at that list certainly puts it into perspective, i`m still amzed that half the aircraft available I still have yet to try! This after 2 years!

And graphics... Hmmm. Well, when I look at at a custom P40 (or spit) with my chosen girlie image on the side,with my pokey pilot`s face clear as day, flying over the new DLL seas on a cloudy day...

Well you gotta be deluded to say that the graphics aren`t excellent.

Too many spoiled kids abound... Don`t get me wrong, it`s always good to ask for improvements or a fave plane (mosquito, Tempest), it`s just the stubborn rudeness and lack of appreciation that smacks of self-destructiveness of one`s enjoyment of this great artwork! Yes, ARTWORK! Still, I guess I can understand their mentality. My own daughter still can`t imagine a world with graphics limited to 16 colours and basic blocks to represent anything!

ElAurens
01-14-2006, 11:57 AM
Yeah, this sim looks like C R @ P doesn't it?

http://www.blitzpigs.com/photos/DesertHawk.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Comparison to LOMAC is way off base. Imagine how good this sim would be if they only modeled one frigging map...

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

WOLFMondo
01-14-2006, 12:02 PM
ElAurens, point proven without a doubt.

Bearcat, your an IL2:FB/PF fanboy:P

Er...wait, thats a good thing! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AerialTarget:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Stunning grphics that are almost photorealistic </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Er, no... However many strong points this game has, graphics is not one of them. Have you ever seen Lock On: Modern Air Combat? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gotta say some aspects of the Lockon are not actually that great. The planes look fantastic but the ground vehicals, some of the AI planes and especially the carrier look dated. Other aspects look nice though. PF wins on explosions and things like that, special effects etc.

Old_Canuck
01-14-2006, 12:14 PM
Bearcat, your point is well taken by this fanboy but let's not forget the huge contribution by mission builders, skinners, volunteers who keep the online squadrons going, movie makers and WWII aviation experts who add a lot of bottom to this already deep sim experience.

Most of those who are still complaining have to admit that it's still on their hard drives and they're still getting some enjoyment out of it - even if their enjoyment is to simply drop in for a *****fest from time to time. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Bearcat99
01-14-2006, 12:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Old_Canuck:
Bearcat, your point is well taken by this fanboy but let's not forget the huge contribution by mission builders, skinners, volunteers who keep the online squadrons going, movie makers and WWII aviation experts who add a lot of bottom to this already deep sim experience.
Most of those who are still complaining have to admit that it's still on their hard drives and they're still getting some enjoyment out of it - even if their enjoyment is to simply drop in for a *****fest from time to time. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Absolutley..... LMAO..... I am surprised to see this 6 month old puppy resurected....

Treetop64
01-14-2006, 12:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
...I am surprised to see this 6 month old puppy resurected.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not only that, but there has been more stuff added since then.

Great stuff we have here!

marhkimov
01-14-2006, 01:44 PM
I only resurected the thread because it told me everything I needed to know. Then the next morning, I hit the stores and bought both PF and LOMAC... Then I put it on top of my copy of IL2+FBA.

Oleg really needs a webpage with all of this info. It's just mind-boggling how much stuff is in the entire IL2 game.

zoinks_
01-14-2006, 01:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ElAurens:
Yeah, this sim looks like C R @ P doesn't it?

http://www.blitzpigs.com/photos/DesertHawk.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Comparison to LOMAC is way off base. Imagine how good this sim would be if they only modeled one frigging map...

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

beautiful screen shot. can you describe your resolution and video settings? after seeing this screenie, i discovered setting landscape to perfect helped. any other tips like your config settings would help. can't believe what i've been missing.

Enforcer572005
01-14-2006, 04:51 PM
yup, this is great, and needs some correcting, but everything is relative. I know some of you were in the CFS2 community, so you know about how you had to import a million user made fixes to get it to work right, and alot of glaring defects (like the lousy FMB) were NEVER fixed, since MS NEVER fixes their stuff or patches anything. While i was fascinated wiht all the user made planes, ships etc, (a common comparison to this sim), they were almost useless since the misn blder didnt function properly with many user made items.

My overextended point is that everything is relative, and the amount of stuff is amazing that we have and all the stuff taht DEOS work right. Yeah, im kinda miffed at teh lack of ships, but what ships....man, i disagree that tehy look dated....position a camera where you can stand on the decks of these things. Amazing. Especially the BRit carrier...sheeesh.

Ive learnde to use what does work right....which is why i wont make a cmpn project where you fly the P51 (toy guns, paper engine, wings fall off, spins out etc). So, i jsut do stuff that works....and there is plenty of it. Yeah, some needs to be fixed, but this is by far the best offering. Dont forget the amount of work involved in this stuff. A little more user input would be nice, but at least this is consistant.

The changes weve seen, good and bad, are proof that Oleg and crew DO listen....and TRY to fix stuff, to varying degrees of success. Ill be quiet now..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Yog_Shoggoth
01-14-2006, 09:28 PM
I keep forgeting how old this game is. It always seems like a new release to me.

ElAurens
01-14-2006, 09:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by zoinks_:
beautiful screen shot. can you describe your resolution and video settings? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

First go over to Oleg's Ready Room, to the sticky thread about the neww graphic .dlls. read it and DL and install the appropriate .dll for your video card.

Max out all in game graphic settings. I run my resolution at 1024x768x32. Then open up the game directory and go into the conf.ini and under the [render_OpenGL] heading find water=, and set it to water=4 (for nvidia cards). And there ya go!

I am running a 3gig Intel P4 Hyperthreading 800fsb processor (slithtly overclocked to 3.14gig) on an Abit IC7 mobo with 2 gigs of Mushkin Level 1 Black series PC3200 ram, and a Gainward Golden Sample Nvidia 6800GT card at stock timing with the 81.94 drivers.

zoinks_
01-15-2006, 12:22 AM
thanks ElAurens. had dll's from 12-16-05 and water=3. i'll try these and water=4. didn't have perfect landscape until today and it was bugging me after seeing some screen shots.
also, been playing with the conf file today adding 3dgunners=1 and changing some values.

got real confused, imagine that, but spent time comparing different settings and i now like what i see. just built a new rig and i felt like such a loser!


edit: i said my dll's were from 12-16-05. doh, that's when i installed the game...i am a loser!

jds1978
01-15-2006, 05:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">zoinks_
Posted Sat January 14 2006 23:22
thanks ElAurens. had dll's from 12-16-05 and water=3. i'll try these and water=4. didn't have perfect landscape until today and it was bugging me after seeing some screen shots.
also, been playing with the conf file today adding 3dgunners=1 and changing some values.

got real confused, imagine that, but spent time comparing different settings and i now like what i see. just built a new rig and i felt like such a loser! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

right on zoinks!
post some screenies in the screenshot pages!

this thread won't die http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

zoinks_
01-15-2006, 06:46 PM
lol...go look.