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blakduk
07-10-2005, 07:43 PM
Hi Guys
I'm curious about how well people perform in offline campaigns. Does anyone manage to complete a campaign without being killed or captured at least once?
I can get through them with some impressive tallies yet i have not managed to get through even ONE without being terminated.
On some i seem to get stuck on individual missions until i manage to employ the right tactics. I cant imagine i would have had any chance of surviving the war.

bird_brain
07-10-2005, 08:14 PM
I bail out and get captured alot, but I don't get killed very often. Usually from doing something stupid like running into the back of a bomber or the ground. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I have a very impressive crash landing tally too. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I can't remember the last time I got shot down by an AI fighter (at least 2 weeks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif)

J_Weaver
07-10-2005, 08:19 PM
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Actually, I've never completed a campaign. I spend most of my time in the QMB and FMB. But yes, I die fairly often, although mostly due to flak and sniper bombers gunners.

bird_brain
07-10-2005, 09:03 PM
To answer your other question, I think I have completed a campaign once without loosing a single plane.

blakduk
07-10-2005, 09:22 PM
I'm glad to hear it- i get frustrated with the embarassing ways i get killed. Just the other day i made a slashing move against a Blenheim from his high 4 o'clock- one bullet from the ventral turret and i was dead http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
I was in a I16 and i assumed that a large radial in front of me would be some protection from the magic bullet. I had to play back the track to confirm that was how i was killed- i had thought maybe someone had snuck up behind me or i'd accidently crossed in front of an AI colleague. I had to admit it, i was killed attacking a Blenheim http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

ImpStarDuece
07-11-2005, 01:08 AM
My rule is that if you get killed or captured in a campaign than that is IT. No refly, no second chance, no nothing. Start it all over again.

So far I have managed to complete 3 of the DGEN campaigns (P-47D-10 over Stalingrad, FW-190F Berlin and a Yak-9 campaign) and quite a few static campaigns as well (IceFire's 'Lightning Strikes' and Chuck Olders AVG campaigns being the latest).

Generally, as a primarily offline player, I have between 5-8 campaigns I am playing at anyone time, usually with 3-4 different aircraft. My completion ratio is usually less than about 25%, maybe lower. Not only because I get shot down but also because I tend to get a little bored with sometimes. Unless its a P-47 or Fw-190 I tend to peter off after aboout 20 missions.

My favourite campaign was a Finnish Brewster campaign when FB was released. Must of been a hundred missions long. Lots of bomber intercepts (first mission was a dusk scramble against Pe-8s at 6500 m) and close escorts. I can still remember the sheer terror of watching straffers dive onto my my airfield around the 50th mission and leave my plane a flaming wreck but only slightly injure my virtual pilot.

elephant_il2
07-11-2005, 01:30 AM
I usualy get killed or captured after 10 or so missions.
My most often death is crashing on sraffing passes (getting too greedy to get one more car)or by AA gun fire. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Friendly_flyer
07-11-2005, 01:59 AM
My favourite campaign was a Finnish Brewster campaign when FB was released.

That was my favourite too, until Extreme-ones BoB came along. A Russian fighter crashed into me over enemy territory on the 30th or so mission. Miraculously my pilot survived and bailed. I was caught, and I didn't have the heart to start all over again.

Generally, I try to fly without being killed. The only times I refly is when I am killed when botching a landing or somesuch. Naturally, my tallies aren€t that impressive. In my Brewster campaign, I only had 6 kills at time I was captured.

BSS_Goat
07-11-2005, 07:58 AM
14 missions into Cactus Diary, 8 kills. Playing DID(dead is dead http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) Got caught with a burnt out engine running for home. I could see the Point in the distance, tracers all around me, calling for help, all my wingmen dead. Nose up to get some alt to bail. I'm almost over friendly territory and "WHAM" one of the Japanese fighter runs into me. Cut the computer off, felt sick to my stomach and have not played since. Got to get fired up again.

FlatSpinMan
07-11-2005, 08:15 AM
I tend to eat it pretty often on strafing runs,too. Getting really good at ditching/ crash-landing, too. That **** boat strafing mission in Cactus Diary finished me off about three times cos I just couldn't stop myself from going back for "just one more". "Landing craft infantry - once you pop, you just can't stop."Thanks a bunch BirdBrain! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Generally though I really try not to hit refly but then I'll go and do something ridiculous (see above) and so I find myself crawling back and continuing when no-one is looking.We all have our dirty secrets.

I also get bored after a while, except in static campaigns. Dgen is pretty good but I prefer all the extra stuff in custom campaigns and The Last Days Dgen campaign.

Still going on Cactus, haven't played much this last week but thanks for your work again BB.

3.JG51_BigBear
07-11-2005, 08:16 AM
I'd say I've gotten through three or four of the dgen campaigns without biting the bullet. I've lot aircraft and bailed over friendly territory at times but neve killed or captured in those campaigns.

In the offline campaigns I try to use tactics and fight the way I think a real pilot would handle combat. I achieve the objective but I expose myself and the rest of my pilots to as little risk as possible. I usually end up with less kills for myself that way but I make it all the way through. Using the AI effectivly, which can be extremely frustrating at times, can really cut down on the number of times you die in a campaign.

han freak solo
07-11-2005, 08:39 AM
The thing that kills me the most is mis-judging head on attacks. Sometimes, I really can't make out the enemy until it is too late. Mid-air head-on collisions are brutally terminal.

dieg777
07-11-2005, 09:39 AM
most of my virtual deaths are crash landings on return to base - must be a mental block just trying to come in too fast to get to next mission- or getting that little bit too close in a firing pass and crashing into bandit http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
Im a bit too impatient to finish one campaign as something like TLD or flying tigers comes along and Iv got to give it a go so usually have about 6 campaigns on the go at once. Iv promised myself I ll settle on one and try to play as dead is dead and fly accordingly but just too much fun to go screamin in with all guns blazin sometimes

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Hydra444
07-11-2005, 10:58 AM
When I first started getting into the offline campaigns,I was surprised at how much harder it can be at times than playing against real human opponents.My first campaign was that in a Hurricane Mk.2C flying with the Russians.Did incredibly well...That was until my unit transferred over to La-5's,then it all went to hell.

But my last couple endeavors have been met with great success.Since my first campaign,I have not yet been sucker punched in the family jewels by the wicked hand of fate...Just started a campaign with the B-25 though,so I have a feeling my luck might change soon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Covino
07-11-2005, 11:06 AM
One thing that may make surviving the dynamic campaigns harder that surviving the real war is that just about all campaign missions include combat while in real life (especially on the American side), a pilot could have gone 50 missions or more without seeing combat.

But how would the game sell if only very few missions in the campaign had combat? It's one of the Catch-22's of nearly all WWII sims.

horseback
07-11-2005, 02:14 PM
My record is painfully similar to that of the earlier posters-although I find that my AI wingmen are distressingly much more likely to collide with me if I collect more than three kills. Jealousy, I suppose.

cheers

horseback

BelaLvgosi
07-11-2005, 02:48 PM
All of my 5 campaigns terminated abrutly after completing a mission and the apply button not working (neither any). Only thing to do, is brute force exit the game, and when the campaign is called again, the game crashes and my pilot name is repeated all over the screen. Well, I bit the bullet and started another (109F4 moscow 41) which is early in mission 20 something, by now I guess I was captured some 4 times, and got an ugly head on colision with an I-16.

Zeus-cat
07-11-2005, 07:35 PM
I think I completed bird_brain's Cactus Diary campaign with 5 or 6 deaths. I think 3 or 4 of those were stupid deaths like crashing on takeoff because I got distracted.

I usually play with the TV on and get distracted by "SEE BRITNEY SPEARS NUDE!" Crash. "... Not on this TV show of course, but maybe in next month's Playdude."

'****! Stupid TV show! $#&%!!&'

2 or 3 of the kills were legitimate. AI gunners on bombers getting me or escort fighters taking out my controls while I was busy shooting up Betty's and I didn't bail out in time. I try to fly smart and not attack something that is a low-probability kill in a dangerous atmosphere.

Zeus-cat

fordfan25
07-11-2005, 07:39 PM
i have never been shot down on or offline http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

bird_brain
07-11-2005, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by FlatSpinMan:
That **** boat strafing mission in Cactus Diary finished me off about three times cos I just couldn't stop myself from going back for "just one more". "Landing craft infantry - once you pop, you just can't stop."Thanks a bunch BirdBrain! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif... but thanks for your work again BB. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


Originally posted by Zeus-cat:
I think I completed bird_brain's Cactus Diary campaign with 5 or 6 deaths. ....Zeus-cat
I really am glad you guys actually flew the whole thing. If it kept you interested all the way through, it must be OK. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Cadet_Bobo
07-12-2005, 12:55 AM
Yeah, it's a good one BB. I'm reading Lundstrom's Guadacanal Campaign and the history is very good. The bomber formations are right out of the book as well as most sh*tuations I find myself in. I suspect you spent as much time typing the story out as you did making the missions! Excellent job much appreciated by me!! I'm on 18th mission, 18 AC kills, one plane lost and no deaths! YET! :-)
When I run DCG campaigns, I quit when I'm killed or captured. Linear campaigns get a more liberal treatment cause I want to fly all the missions. So far Cactus, WTCF and BoB have been my faves! Thanks guys!!

Bobo

SeaFireLIV
07-12-2005, 03:38 AM
Originally posted by ImpStarDuece:
My rule is that if you get killed or captured in a campaign than that is IT. No refly, no second chance, no nothing. Start it all over again.



That`s rough iron rules, but I must say I applaud your patience. I want to try it but just don`t feel I`m ready yet. I do have a rule that if I do something dumb, like prang my prop or crash on take off alive I`ll simply sit out the mission (go do something else), return when the AI`s done the mission and see what the results are. This usually teaches me to make GOOD take offs!

Out of many Campaigns I`ve never gone through every single one without being captured or killed. It`s a sobering thought - this technically means that I would probably NOT have survived WWII as a fighter pilot. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I think it`s possible to succeed on iron man rules with this attitude which I may try.

1. Never take on more than in your own flight.

2. Never fight alone.

3. Never take on flak first in line.

4. Never go back for flak for `one more go`.

5. Never attack ships or harbours (at least not without at least a Squad with you). Strike onec GET OUT.

6. If any missions seem impossible -say your Russian Comrade leader insists on you attacking that dense flak-covered harbour patrolled by fighters with your I16 - Then just say, `Yes ,comrade leader, fly out a little way, empty your guns and land back at the airfield! Hit Apply!

Then maybe that way, I`ll survive the whole war.

HoldSteady641
07-12-2005, 06:09 AM
Originally posted by BelaLvgosi:
All of my 5 campaigns terminated abrutly after completing a mission and the apply button not working (neither any). Only thing to do, is brute force exit the game, and when the campaign is called again, the game crashes and my pilot name is repeated all over the screen. Well, I bit the bullet and started another (109F4 moscow 41) which is early in mission 20 something, by now I guess I was captured some 4 times, and got an ugly head on colision with an I-16.

Had that a few times before. Only thing to do is wait for the mission accomplished message. Stand on the runway for half an hour if necessary, but sometimesit just needs friendly or enemy planes to reach a certain waypoint..
Last mission I was ordered to protect stuka's. We flew ahead over their target and returned to base, Even by then, the bombers were still 10 minutes away. So I flew back, did a few fighting, returned to base due to oil loss, landed, waited a 15 minutes untill all stuka's were back at base waypoint. only then the message came..

HoldSteady641
07-12-2005, 06:28 AM
3. Never take on flak first in line.

4. Never go back for flak for `one more go`.

these are sooo true.. The one about the harbor too, but I don't get much of these missions, so..

han freak solo
07-12-2005, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by ImpStarDuece:
My rule is that if you get killed or captured in a campaign than that is IT. No refly, no second chance, no nothing. Start it all over again.


That's what I liked about CFS2. I had a bunch of pilots listed as dead or captured. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif


originally posted by fordfan25:
i have never been shot down on or offline http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif
When I grow up, I want to be just like you! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

1.JaVA_Hornet
07-12-2005, 08:30 AM
Since patch 4.1 its impossible to fly
campaigns. I think the dgen files are
corrupted now. So since then i don`t fly
offline anymore.

FlatSpinMan
07-12-2005, 09:31 AM
@java_Hornet
Nah, I've flown a few Dgen campaign missions this last week, well actually The Last Days Dgen campaigns and they were fine.By the way, like the pic in your sig.

TgD Thunderbolt56
07-12-2005, 09:46 AM
Just Curious about your performance offline

My Wife says my performance offline is better than ever. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif