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Hunde_3.JG51
11-08-2004, 06:26 PM
Just checked, P-63 still has phantom wings after the first hit or so. I supplied a track to Gibbage awhile back and just made another. Will this be fixed in upcoming patch, I know things have been busy so I thought maybe this may have been forgotten about.

Korolov
11-08-2004, 07:59 PM
I tested the P-63 against the Mk108, Ho-103, MG151/20 and the Oscar's 12.7mm guns. It seems the P-63 still catches fire from the lightest of hits, but the structure is always solid with rare catastrophic failures. Repeated hits from almost all weapons will eventually cause structural failure.

Possibly a low priority fix.

Hunde_3.JG51
11-09-2004, 11:25 AM
Sent another track to Oleg.

He replied "confirmed and fixed."

Good news.

Kwiatos
11-09-2004, 11:37 AM
Other plane which strange DM is Lagg3. These plane is nearly impossible to shot down from 12 x 0.303 kms. I made some test - i get Hurricane with 12 kms and firing to different planes. Most planes like Fw-190, Bfs, even P-63 had damage and get fire. But not Lagg3 - i hit it many burst and nothing even no visual damages.

Hunde_3.JG51
11-09-2004, 11:46 AM
Yeah, I sent two tracks to Oleg a long time ago. One showed a P-47 getting lit up by Hurricane IIb with only a few .303 rounds (and I mean a few), the other showed Lagg-3 taking my entire ammo load without so much as a scratch. I think it is a case of Lagg-3 still having a simplified DM or something, but it still should be vulnerable to small mg rounds (if it still isn't).

A.K.Davis
11-09-2004, 12:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kwiatos:
Other plane which strange DM is Lagg3. These plane is nearly impossible to shot down from 12 x 0.303 kms. I made some test - i get Hurricane with 12 kms and firing to different planes. Most planes like Fw-190, Bfs, even P-63 had damage and get fire. But not Lagg3 - i hit it many burst and nothing even no visual damages. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm fairly certain the Lagg-3 is one of the few flyables that still has old, simplied Il-2 damage model. Shooting the tail section has almost no effect.

Gibbage1
11-09-2004, 12:52 PM
Im glad is getting fixed. I liked flying the P-63 but I would not till the DM was fixed. Having Mk-108 shells pass through the wings was nice, but not fair.

jurinko
11-10-2004, 07:31 AM
also notice that the wing tanks in Yaks are almost impossible to lit, yesh they leak heavily and eventually the wing goes off but no fire.. well, almost never. The engine is the same, especially in LaGG is VK105 invulnerable. After so many hits which would cut P47 into two pieces, VK105 coughes and stops working, no leak, no oil, no fire.

A.K.Davis
11-10-2004, 08:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jurinko:
also notice that the wing tanks in Yaks are almost impossible to lit, yesh they leak heavily and eventually the wing goes off but no fire.. well, almost never. The engine is the same, especially in LaGG is VK105 invulnerable. After so many hits which would cut P47 into two pieces, VK105 coughes and stops working, no leak, no oil, no fire. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, this is the old, original Il-2 damage model. Remember the 190 before it received a new DM. Engine had two states: working and dead. Nothing in between