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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 08:36 AM
Towards the end of the war the fw190 had a canopy that was released by a small explosive device , why havent any of the fw190s got that in FB ?

XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 08:36 AM
Towards the end of the war the fw190 had a canopy that was released by a small explosive device , why havent any of the fw190s got that in FB ?

XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 09:21 AM
Probably for the same reason that the relief tube in my P-39 doesn't seem to work.

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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 09:23 AM
hobnail wrote:
- Probably for the same reason that the relief tube in
- my P-39 doesn't seem to work.


AHHH crap thats why the floor is wet around my computer,stupid under modeled releif tube /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 09:27 AM
Pourshot, that's a CA-15, isn't it?

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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 09:30 AM
pourshot wrote:
- hobnail wrote:
-- Probably for the same reason that the relief tube in
-- my P-39 doesn't seem to work.
-
-
- AHHH crap thats why the floor is wet around my
- computer,stupid under modeled releif tube /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
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- No1RAAF_Pourshot
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- src="http://members.optusnet.com.au/~andycarroll68
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- How many people think this is a p-51/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



Thats an MB5 is'nt it, or something very similiar, i cant quite make out if it has contro-rotating props. If it is it had better performance than all of the early jets, plus that deadly array of 4 x 20mm Hispano-Suiza canons in the wing, gave it an impressiv punch. The British Government never took it on though because it was at the point in time when they stopped buying piston and demanded everything be Jet power, despite the fact that it could outperform early jets. Made sense in the long run though i suppose. Be a great 'What if fighter', though just for fun.

XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 09:44 AM
Classicaero, it's the CA-15 Kangaro and she's a beaut.

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08-21-2003, 09:46 AM
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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 12:04 PM
johnnyJohnson_ wrote:
- Towards the end of the war the fw190 had a canopy
- that was released by a small explosive device , why
- havent any of the fw190s got that in FB ?

They were not just introduced by the end, the 190 could jettison it's canopy by a small explosive charge right from the beginn of it's time with the front units./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I also wonder why the pilot in the 190 can't bail at speeds above 450kph...the standart maneuver to bail in the 190 was to kick the stick forward so that the a/c simply dove away from you...

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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 12:24 PM
From my experance in IL2 FB, all FW-190's already have this feature. The canopy pops right off when using explosive charges. The exposive charges from my P-39's 37MM cannon. Works quite well.

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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 01:41 PM
hobnail, that was funny.

For all that don't know what he was refering to, the P-39 was equiped with a "human blader relief mechanism" that enabled the pilot to releve himself inflight. i.e. A tube with a funnel on it I believe.

XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 01:48 PM
tom_007007 wrote:
- hobnail, that was funny.
-
- For all that don't know what he was refering to, the
- P-39 was equiped with a "human blader relief
- mechanism" that enabled the pilot to releve himself
- inflight. i.e. A tube with a funnel on it I believe.

Is damage to that system simulated? I've not yet experienced a "yellow out" in a p39.

XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 02:10 PM
The best part about the late model 190's canopy release is the fact that if you view yourself bailing out it looks like you're in a convertible cruising the skies.

Does anyone have a pic? I'll have to post one tonight.

lil'

XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 05:21 PM
Bremspropeller wrote:
- They were not just introduced by the end, the 190
- could jettison it's canopy by a small explosive
- charge right from the beginn of it's time with the
- front units.
-
- I also wonder why the pilot in the 190 can't bail at
- speeds above 450kph...the standart maneuver to bail
- in the 190 was to kick the stick forward so that the
- a/c simply dove away from you...

Yep - unless there's damage to the canopy area or a serious wound, a FW pilot should be able to bail out at almost any speed.

Surviving a high speed bail out is, of course, optional. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 06:51 PM
Bremspropeller wrote:
-
- I also wonder why the pilot in the 190 can't bail at
- speeds above 450kph...the standart maneuver to bail
- in the 190 was to kick the stick forward so that the
- a/c simply dove away from you...


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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 07:27 PM
Poorly heated P-38's in ETO frequently had the problem of frozen relief tubes that would fill to the top, then during combat, the stuff would come out during negative G's, and freeze to the canopy, yes, causing a "yellow out". I suggested to Gibbage that he model this, but all he did was laugh at me. I get no respect! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 08:02 PM
Why not combining the two ideas and get an explosive relief tube? The most important parts of the pilot could eject themselves thru the cockpit canopy and have a safe return home. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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