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AlexEzio89
11-28-2011, 06:40 AM
Ubisoft is asking consumers for help in deciding the location of the next Assassin’s Creed. A market research survey sent out by the publisher lists eight possible locations, including Ancient Egypt and Victorian England.

It asks: “Among the following propositions, in which of the following historical periods and locations would you like one of the next Assassin’s Creed games to take place?”

It lists the following options:
The violent conflicts of the Imperial Dynasties in Medieval China
The advent of the mighty British Empire during Victorian England
The culmination of the Pharaoh Reign in Ancient Egypt
The invasion of the Americas by the Spanish Conquistadors
The confrontation between British colonists and native Americans during The American Revolution
The overthrow of the Tsar Empire by the Communists during the Russian Revolution
The Warlord Battles in Feudal Japan
The rise of Cesar’s Empire in Ancient Rome

The Ancient Egyptian setting would fall directly in line with rumors from earlier this month, which drew from the ending of the game hinting at its appearance.

Thanks, EmpireStateGamer (via Eurogamer).

LightRey
11-28-2011, 06:45 AM
Anything but feudal Japan.

misterB2001
11-28-2011, 06:51 AM
The way this is worded makes me think this is for the game after AC3. It also, for me, cements the fact that AC3 will be in France.

Schmagelborfer
11-28-2011, 07:10 AM
what about ancient greece? and all those options seem to have nothing to do with the assassins just revolutionaries throwing coup d' etats

thekarlone
11-28-2011, 07:10 AM
The numbers are my order of preference:

6 - The violent conflicts of the Imperial Dynasties in Medieval China
1 - The advent of the mighty British Empire during Victorian England
2 - The culmination of the Pharaoh Reign in Ancient Egypt
7 - The invasion of the Americas by the Spanish Conquistadors
3 - The confrontation between British colonists and native Americans during The American Revolution
5 - The overthrow of the Tsar Empire by the Communists during the Russian Revolution
8 - The Warlord Battles in Feudal Japan
4 - The rise of Cesar’s Empire in Ancient Rome *like but I don't want Roma/Rome again.

dewgel
11-28-2011, 07:10 AM
To be honest, AC3 is unofficially in production as we speak. Concept art and stories will have already been made. This will be for after ac3.

They usually more or less finish the AC games by E3, that's only 7 months or so from now. Not really long enough to build any of these ideas from scratch.

Also, Britain would be nice, but France is better for culture, which is AC's best point.

Revisiting Rome during Caesars time would be interesting, would we meet Jesus and find out he was a templar using a piece of Eden to trick people aha?

thekarlone
11-28-2011, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by dewgel:
To be honest, AC3 is unofficially in production as we speak. Concept art and stories will have already been made. This will be for after ac3.

They usually more or less finish the AC games by E3, that's only 7 months or so from now. Not really long enough to build any of these ideas from scratch.

Also, Britain would be nice, but France is better for culture, which is AC's best point.

Revisiting Rome during Caesars time would be interesting, would we meet Jesus and find out he was a templar using a piece of Eden to trick people aha?

That's right, but maybe they're doing a market research in order to know if they are doing the right thing.

eagleforlife1
11-28-2011, 07:17 AM
1. American Revolution
2. Russian Revolution
3. Spanish Conquistadors
4. Victorian England
5. Medieval China
6. Feudal Japan
7. Ancient Egypt
8. Caesar's Empire

S-EVANS
11-28-2011, 07:22 AM
The advent of the mighty British Empire during Victorian England

Myself being english of course they wasnt really any other choice...

BK-110
11-28-2011, 07:28 AM
I guess I'd be most interested in Victorian England or the Conquistadors or, if done right, feudal Japan. Not quite sure what people have against feudal Japan. It's as if people only hate it because so many want it. And no, I wouldn't want stereotypical ninja stuff. I would like them to make a realistic depiction of feudal Japan, something which I've personally yet to see in a game...

Assassin_M
11-28-2011, 07:32 AM
That list is definitely for whats AFTER AC III..
So AC III will not take place During these Periods and locations..

massmurdera_666
11-28-2011, 07:45 AM
i just finished the game and i don't recall anything Egyption being shown in the final cinematic,(POSSIBLE SPOILER) <span class="ev_code_WHITE">the only image i saw that remotely comes close to a pyramid from Egypt was from the Aztecs or Myans</span>

misterB2001
11-28-2011, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by Assassin_M:
That list is definitely for whats AFTER AC III..
So AC III will not take place During these Periods and locations.. exactly. French Revolution here we come!

massmurdera_666
11-28-2011, 07:59 AM
What about the French and Indian War/Seven Year's War?

johnnyhayek
11-28-2011, 08:06 AM
Any of those locations are good, but please for the love of God, do not set any of the next few AC games in America. American history is just too lame honestly.

twenty_glyphs
11-28-2011, 08:08 AM
I would say this strongly suggests that The French Revolution will be the setting for AC3 because of its absence from the list. If this list was for AC3 this series would be in huge trouble, but we can be confident that AC3 has been in development in some form or fashion almost since AC2 was done (especially with the little leak last spring where someone said they did texture work for AC3 on their online résumé).

A lot of these choices are interesting. My only real preferences would be the Russian Revolution followed by Imperial or Victorian England. Seeing the architecture in The Fall #3 made me really want to climb some of those buildings in an AC3 game. I would like to see a new ancestor who was heavily involved in the revolution and who crossed paths once or twice with Nikolai Orelov.

GameFreak65
11-28-2011, 08:11 AM
Egypt Please Please!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

Schmagelborfer
11-28-2011, 08:17 AM
seriously if they do french revolution that will be awful, everything was all guns then, everyone would have a gun. AC should be about old times with swords and knives, the hidden gun would be either useless or it'll be all players use to play the game

LightRey
11-28-2011, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by Schmagelborfer:
seriously if they do french revolution that will be awful, everything was all guns then, everyone would have a gun. AC should be about old times with swords and knives, the hidden gun would be either useless or it'll be all players use to play the game
I wouldn't be so sure. A lot of the fighting was still done with sabers. Guns were mostly used on the battlefields.

ziljn
11-28-2011, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by misterB2001:
The way this is worded makes me think this is for the game after AC3. It also, for me, cements the fact that AC3 will be in France.

I was wondering why the French Revolution wasn't on there. You're probably right. I hope so.

We should make a poll out of this, and help Ubi out with their decision. Kinda new here so if anyone knows how to do a poll...

Schmagelborfer
11-28-2011, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schmagelborfer:
seriously if they do french revolution that will be awful, everything was all guns then, everyone would have a gun. AC should be about old times with swords and knives, the hidden gun would be either useless or it'll be all players use to play the game
I wouldn't be so sure. A lot of the fighting was still done with sabers. Guns were mostly used on the battlefields. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>well the bastille was the battlefield, a bunch of people with sabres don't win a battle against a huge fortification with cannons,rifleman and archers. yes the people revolting had guns and bows but not to the same extent, all i'm saying is i think it won't work too well for the AC series. can't you just accept that i have MY own opinion?

LightRey
11-28-2011, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by Schmagelborfer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schmagelborfer:
seriously if they do french revolution that will be awful, everything was all guns then, everyone would have a gun. AC should be about old times with swords and knives, the hidden gun would be either useless or it'll be all players use to play the game
I wouldn't be so sure. A lot of the fighting was still done with sabers. Guns were mostly used on the battlefields. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>well the bastille was the battlefield, a bunch of people with sabres don't win a battle against a huge fortification with cannons,rifleman and archers. yes the people revolting had guns and bows but not to the same extent, all i'm saying is i think it won't work too well for the AC series. can't you just accept that i have MY own opinion? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
True, but who says that the Assassins will be mainly fighting on the battlefields? I sincerely doubt that in fact. I would expect them to go after important political figures. Even if they do enter a battlefield, they'll most likely be going after a single target, like a general, and ignore most of the fighting.

RobL92123
11-28-2011, 08:45 AM
Victorian England.
No contest.

Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring-heeled_Jack

LightRey
11-28-2011, 08:49 AM
I'm fine with anything that isn't a terrible cliche, so I absolutely don't want feudal Japan.

I don't really like the idea of Medieval China either, but I'd still much rather have that than feudal Japan.

RzaRecta357
11-28-2011, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
I'm fine with anything that isn't a terrible cliche, so I absolutely don't want feudal Japan.

I don't really like the idea of Medieval China either, but I'd still much rather have that than feudal Japan.

I'm with you. Asian assassin just wouldn't feel right. Not to mention how is Desmond gonna be white again if they do the 200-300 year jump?

They showed New York.


I bet they can work on tons of story on Americans and natives and stuff with the New World that is America.

We'd have templars talking about their new world order in the new world. Haha.

Schmagelborfer
11-28-2011, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
I'm fine with anything that isn't a terrible cliche, so I absolutely don't want feudal Japan.

I don't really like the idea of Medieval China either, but I'd still much rather have that than feudal Japan. well said, i'm more concerned with landmarks as i've always enjoyed learning about them and climbing them as well, i'd be happy with india, ancient greece would be good but i don't know how they would do it but maybe it'd be cool

Agentbarto
11-28-2011, 10:06 AM
I want me some steampunk action. So Industrial Revolution.

Schmagelborfer
11-28-2011, 10:10 AM
if they did the american revolution then the free masons would come into question. also, it's said that the free masons want one world order and all that, sounds similar to templars

Assassin_M
11-28-2011, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by Schmagelborfer:
if they did the american revolution then the free masons would come into question. also, it's said that the free masons want one world order and all that, sounds similar to templars
Thats because, in the game, they are Templars..

Schmagelborfer
11-28-2011, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schmagelborfer:
if they did the american revolution then the free masons would come into question. also, it's said that the free masons want one world order and all that, sounds similar to templars
Thats because, in the game, they are Templars.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>exactly, but think about it... george washington, thomas jefferson, ben franklin, and other important historical american figures all free masons. can you imagine assassinating them? ubisoft would probably get sued by the american gov't lol

TheTruth3402
11-28-2011, 10:27 AM
Link to original story. (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-11-28-ubisoft-survey-public-on-future-assassins-creed-locations)

I think in order to determine which of these choices would be best we have to outline what makes an AC game successful:

-There has to be an interesting culture, much like we see in Istanbul. I love to see all the colors, decorations, converstations etc. (hookahs FTW!)

-There has to be a graphically beautiful setting. I don't see how we could choose Giza when this is factored in. The only colors seen are that of the sky and desert.

-There has to be many well known landmarks and ample places for free running and building scaling. I believe that all the games of the series have done a good job of accounting for this. However, I have my concerns with a few of these destinations, particularly revolutionary America.

-Finally, the time period has to be historically relevant with plenty of leeway for conspiracies and corruption. I think all of these choices are probably suitable in that regard, although I know absolutely nothing of feudal Japan or Imperial China.

(If anyone else wants to add to this list, or make a case for the far east, feel free.)

All factors considered, I think the best choices would be Victorian England or Tsarist Russia.

From a culture standpoint, England provides the most interesting culture and city (London) IMO.

Russia, however, has a ready made assassin solution in Orelov and has the more interesting territory for conspiracies with the work of Tesla and the presence of an artefact.

Assassin_M
11-28-2011, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Schmagelborfer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schmagelborfer:
if they did the american revolution then the free masons would come into question. also, it's said that the free masons want one world order and all that, sounds similar to templars
Thats because, in the game, they are Templars.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>exactly, but think about it... george washington, thomas jefferson, ben franklin, and other important historical american figures all free masons. can you imagine assassinating them? ubisoft would probably get sued by the american gov't lol </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Not really, I mean, they called George Bush a Templar Puppet..


EDIT:
-There has to be a graphically beautiful setting. I don't see how we could choose Giza when this is factored in. The only colors seen are that of the sky and desert. I said it before and I`ll say it again, Egypt is not completely desert, there are cars, roads,bridges,skyscrapers,Villas,T.vs,Computers,Mo torcycles etc.. you know, all that modern stuff..
Darn you American Television for picturing Egypt as nothing but desert, Camels and a freaking Pyramid http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Agentbarto
11-28-2011, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schmagelborfer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schmagelborfer:
seriously if they do french revolution that will be awful, everything was all guns then, everyone would have a gun. AC should be about old times with swords and knives, the hidden gun would be either useless or it'll be all players use to play the game
I wouldn't be so sure. A lot of the fighting was still done with sabers. Guns were mostly used on the battlefields. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>well the bastille was the battlefield, a bunch of people with sabres don't win a battle against a huge fortification with cannons,rifleman and archers. yes the people revolting had guns and bows but not to the same extent, all i'm saying is i think it won't work too well for the AC series. can't you just accept that i have MY own opinion? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
True, but who says that the Assassins will be mainly fighting on the battlefields? I sincerely doubt that in fact. I would expect them to go after important political figures. Even if they do enter a battlefield, they'll most likely be going after a single target, like a general, and ignore most of the fighting. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Also Light, you're forgetting they didn't have silencers back then. Using guns for everything wouldn't be practical for a stealthy Assassin hunting his target.

Here's the thing though, I scared about covering the American Revolution. Can you imagine the flack Canada would get for making some of our "heroes" into villains? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

(Please Ubi, include Thomas Payne as an Assassin infiltrator)

England on the other hand, most they would do if Victoria was vilified is sit down with a cup o' tea and talk for about 6 hours about how they are not amused.


Originally posted by RobL92123:
Victorian England.
No contest.

Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring-heeled_Jack

Dude totally, our Assassin could be named Jack Harkness and he could travel through space and ti- wait wrong series...

Schmagelborfer
11-28-2011, 10:34 AM
am i the only one thinking ancient greece could be a good setting? athens is even in mediterranean defense

Schmagelborfer
11-28-2011, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by TheTruth3402:
Link to original story. (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-11-28-ubisoft-survey-public-on-future-assassins-creed-locations)

I think in order to determine which of these choices would be best we have to outline what makes an AC game successful:

-There has to be an interesting culture, much like we see in Istanbul. I love to see all the colors, decorations, converstations etc. (hookahs FTW!)

-There has to be a graphically beautiful setting. I don't see how we could choose Giza when this is factored in. The only colors seen are that of the sky and desert.

-There has to be many well known landmarks and ample places for free running and building scaling. I believe that all the games of the series have done a good job of accounting for this. However, I have my concerns with a few of these destinations, particularly revolutionary America.

-Finally, the time period has to be historically relevant with plenty of leeway for conspiracies and corruption. I think all of these choices are probably suitable in that regard, although I know absolutely nothing of feudal Japan or Imperial China.

(If anyone else wants to add to this list, or make a case for the far east, feel free.)

All factors considered, I think the best choices would be Victorian England or Tsarist Russia.

From a culture standpoint, England provides the most interesting culture and city (London) IMO.

Russia, however, has a ready made assassin solution in Orelov and has the more interesting territory for conspiracies with the work of Tesla and the presence of an artefact. if i could agree more with all of your points i'd be inhuman

Agentbarto
11-28-2011, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schmagelborfer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schmagelborfer:
if they did the american revolution then the free masons would come into question. also, it's said that the free masons want one world order and all that, sounds similar to templars
Thats because, in the game, they are Templars.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>exactly, but think about it... george washington, thomas jefferson, ben franklin, and other important historical american figures all free masons. can you imagine assassinating them? ubisoft would probably get sued by the american gov't lol </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Not really, I mean, they called George Bush a Templar Puppet.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ooooh how about this? During the revolutionary war, both the Assassins and Templars are looking for new recruits, more support. So!! Some of the Masons are Templar infiltrators, while other are Assassin infiltrators, both trying to sway the Masonic guilds in their direction.

crash3
11-28-2011, 10:40 AM
After seeing AC: Embers it looks like a female chinese assassin is coming next which sounds cool but I would love to have an AC game set in Ancient Rome or the French Revolution

luckyto
11-28-2011, 10:46 AM
I used to be totally against an AC in Asia, but I've grown very fond of the idea lately. Japan or China. Ancient Egypt next. Or perhaps London/Paris in the midst of the two countries competing for colonial domination. But China has really grown on me as my top pick.

Krayus Korianis
11-28-2011, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
I wouldn't be so sure. A lot of the fighting was still done with sabers. Guns were mostly used on the battlefields.

An elegant weapon for a more civilized age.

xCr0wnedNorris
11-28-2011, 11:01 AM
IMO AC3 should be about 90% Desmond at the least. I wouldn't mind if they visited all these places for future releases, but it doesn't really serve any purpose for Desmond to spend so much time in the Animus in AC3.

ARIARAIDEN
11-28-2011, 11:06 AM
I really hope it will set in Persia.

Grandmaster_Z
11-28-2011, 11:07 AM
anceint rome or egypt1

LightRey
11-28-2011, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by Agentbarto:
Also Light, you're forgetting they didn't have silencers back then. Using guns for everything wouldn't be practical for a stealthy Assassin hunting his target.

Here's the thing though, I scared about covering the American Revolution. Can you imagine the flack Canada would get for making some of our "heroes" into villains? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

(Please Ubi, include Thomas Payne as an Assassin infiltrator)

England on the other hand, most they would do if Victoria was vilified is sit down with a cup o' tea and talk for about 6 hours about how they are not amused.

What? who's talking about silencers? I'm saying they generally only used guns on the battlefield, which basically means that the assassins will mostly still be using hidden blades, sabers, etc.

rain89c
11-28-2011, 11:29 AM
Haha. Go China and Japan! And a Ninja ancestor preferably. More acrobatic moves and free running skills such as backflip and such.
I'm glad they didn't consider French revolution and most european regions. Woot!

If they set it in Europe again there won't be as much close combat moves. All they will do is use guns which is gonna be über boring.

Steww-
11-28-2011, 11:33 AM
Firstly, you're an excellent troll rain.

Secondly, personally I'd go for the British Empire.

Oh, and I agree that this strongly hints at French Revolution for AC 3.

Assassin_M
11-28-2011, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by rain89c:
Haha. Go China and Japan! And a Ninja ancestor preferably. More acrobatic moves and free running skills such as backflip and such.
I'm glad they didn't consider French revolution and most european regions. Woot!
Thats probably because the French Revolution will be the setting for AC III

eagleforlife1
11-28-2011, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by Agentbarto:
England on the other hand, most they would do if Victoria was vilified is sit down with a cup o' tea and talk for about 6 hours about how they are not amused.


Just a tiny bit ignorant and generalised don't you think? For anybody who has studied Victorian England and knows anything about England it was never anything like this. Queen Victoria didn't even make that quote. Also, it mentions the British Empire during Victorian London, which included the likes of India, etc.

Agentbarto
11-28-2011, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Agentbarto:
Also Light, you're forgetting they didn't have silencers back then. Using guns for everything wouldn't be practical for a stealthy Assassin hunting his target.

Here's the thing though, I scared about covering the American Revolution. Can you imagine the flack Canada would get for making some of our "heroes" into villains? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

(Please Ubi, include Thomas Payne as an Assassin infiltrator)

England on the other hand, most they would do if Victoria was vilified is sit down with a cup o' tea and talk for about 6 hours about how they are not amused.

What? who's talking about silencers? I'm saying they generally only used guns on the battlefield, which basically means that the assassins will mostly still be using hidden blades, sabers, etc. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Oh I see. Well we still used bayonets back in the major wars just before WW1; ie Franco-Prussian war. And that would be somewhere around the times listed.

Not sure guns would be too bad either, let's not forget we have limited ammunition and the are in no way automatic at that point in time. Plus Bastille Day was not the entire French Revolution, at worst it would be like storming the arsenal in ACR (with the unlimited usage of the brotherhood bars).


Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Agentbarto:
England on the other hand, most they would do if Victoria was vilified is sit down with a cup o' tea and talk for about 6 hours about how they are not amused.


Just a tiny bit ignorant and generalised don't you think? For anybody who has studied Victorian England and knows anything about England it was never anything like this. Queen Victoria didn't even make that quote. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was trying to be sarcastic; failed again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

souNdwAve89
11-28-2011, 12:43 PM
I welcome any country and time period. I have faith in Ubisoft still and I am sure they will provide great new characters, architecture, weapons, new gameplay mechanics, etc. If I was to make a choice, then I would like to see either the French Revolution, Egypt, or feudal Japan.

rain89c
11-28-2011, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Agentbarto:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schmagelborfer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schmagelborfer:
seriously if they do french revolution that will be awful, everything was all guns then, everyone would have a gun. AC should be about old times with swords and knives, the hidden gun would be either useless or it'll be all players use to play the game
I wouldn't be so sure. A lot of the fighting was still done with sabers. Guns were mostly used on the battlefields. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>well the bastille was the battlefield, a bunch of people with sabres don't win a battle against a huge fortification with cannons,rifleman and archers. yes the people revolting had guns and bows but not to the same extent, all i'm saying is i think it won't work too well for the AC series. can't you just accept that i have MY own opinion? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
True, but who says that the Assassins will be mainly fighting on the battlefields? I sincerely doubt that in fact. I would expect them to go after important political figures. Even if they do enter a battlefield, they'll most likely be going after a single target, like a general, and ignore most of the fighting. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Also Light, you're forgetting they didn't have silencers back then. Using guns for everything wouldn't be practical for a stealthy Assassin hunting his target.

Here's the thing though, I scared about covering the American Revolution. Can you imagine the flack Canada would get for making some of our "heroes" into villains? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

(Please Ubi, include Thomas Payne as an Assassin infiltrator)

England on the other hand, most they would do if Victoria was vilified is sit down with a cup o' tea and talk for about 6 hours about how they are not amused.


Originally posted by RobL92123:
Victorian England.
No contest.

Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring-heeled_Jack

Dude totally, our Assassin could be named Jack Harkness and he could travel through space and ti- wait wrong series... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
LOL

lukaszep
11-28-2011, 01:01 PM
I love all of them except the first one.
I think The rise of Ceaser's Empire in Ancient Rome would be the most interesting story wise. Roman history is pretty interesting, and would be cool to see the Assassins struggling against an uprising power.


Can you imagine the flack Canada would get for making some of our "heroes" into villains?

How is that different to making any historical figures in the last 4 AC games villains? E.g. the POPE.

TorQue1988
11-28-2011, 01:07 PM
It saddens me to see Japan and China on the list; that could ruin the future AC games for me.
Victorian England, American Revolution,New World and Ancient Egypt could be great. Ancient Rome sounds good also but i don't think they will return to Italy,although Ancient Rome,Ancient Egypt and Ancient Greece in a single game would be awesome.
But anyway this is probably for after AC3, and French Revolution missing from the list is probably a big hint that it will be the setting of AC3, and i really hope it is.

shop49FAF31A2
11-28-2011, 01:14 PM
After watching Assassin's Creed Embers, Medieval China looks like it would be very cool. So...

1. China
2. Egypt
3. Japan
4. England
5. Conquistadors
6. American Revolution
7. Ancient Rome
8. Russia

IsaacAssassin
11-28-2011, 01:28 PM
Make the next assassins creed game about daniel cross finding a synch nexus and escaping to nearby sweden to experience a swedish ancestor who helps gustav vasa (swedens king, 1496-1560), he lived at the end of ezios time

rob.davies2014
11-28-2011, 01:45 PM
The absence of The French Revolution suggests that it's probably AC3's setting.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif Awesome!

Victorian London for me please.
My second choice would be the Russian Revolution.

RebeccaLH
11-28-2011, 01:53 PM
Not England.
I see it enough everyday. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Derek_Oswald
11-28-2011, 02:09 PM
My favorite is The advent of the mighty British Empire during Victorian England

And then
The culmination of the Pharaoh Reign in Ancient Egypt
or
The violent conflicts of the Imperial Dynasties in Medieval China

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But I think that England is save bet http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

UBOSOFT-Gamer
11-28-2011, 02:14 PM
Well, i would like to see Germany/Europe during the Thirty years war 1618-1648, BUT

from that list, here is my preference:

1. Victorian England
2. Spanish Conquistadors
3. Russian Revolution
4. American Revolution
5. Caesar's Empire
6. Ancient Egypt
7. Medieval China
8. Feudal Japan

rileypoole1234
11-28-2011, 02:16 PM
VICTORIAN ENGLAND. DO IT NOW.

albertwesker22
11-28-2011, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by rileypoole1234:
VICTORIAN ENGLAND. DO IT NOW.

I second that. Though I would really enjoy the French Revolution.

Sevenofnine-st
11-28-2011, 02:29 PM
Either the British Empire or the Tsar Empire. No Ninjas, please!

rob.davies2014
11-28-2011, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by RebeccaLH:
Not England.
I see it enough everyday. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
Not through the eyes of a 19th century Assassin.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

albertwesker22
11-28-2011, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by RussellSparrow:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RebeccaLH:
Not England.
I see it enough everyday. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
Not through the eyes of a 19th century Assassin.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This!

ByronAllanPoe
11-28-2011, 02:47 PM
Victorian London!

UBOSOFT-Gamer
11-28-2011, 02:48 PM
Victorian England would be awasome. Imagine runinng through the narrow foggy streets of London through the night. Climbing Big Ben or get into the Tower of London!

Search for secrets, kill guards.
Maybe fantasyfigure Sherock Holmes may helps us.

I would not have anything against seeing the AC3-assisin takine a trip to Paris or to some british colonies around the globe!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But i wonder waht time period they would choose if the would do the spanish conquistars. because 1493 kolumbus found the americas and when ezio is in old age, the conquest of America had jsut begun. It would had to be an descandt of Ezio. I wonder how the devs would explain how the child or grandchild of ezio got into the spanish conquistadores.

albertwesker22
11-28-2011, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
Victorian England would be awasome. Imagine runinng through the narrow foggy streets of London through the night. Climbing Big Ben or get into the Tower of London!

Search for secrets, kill guards.
Maybe fantasyfigure Sherock Holmes may helps us.

I would not have anything against seeing the AC3-assisin takine a trip to Paris or to some british colonies around the globe!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But i wonder waht time period they would choose if the would do the spanish conquistars. because 1493 kolumbus found the americas and when ezio is in old age, the conquest of America had jsut begun. It would had to be an descandt of Ezio. I wonder how the devs would explain how the child or grandchild of ezio got into the spanish conquistadores.

Giovanni Borgia joined Hernan Cortez's camp by assuming the identity of a Spaniard.

Agentbarto
11-28-2011, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by lukaszep:
I love all of them except the first one.
I think The rise of Ceaser's Empire in Ancient Rome would be the most interesting story wise. Roman history is pretty interesting, and would be cool to see the Assassins struggling against an uprising power.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Can you imagine the flack Canada would get for making some of our "heroes" into villains?

How is that different to making any historical figures in the last 4 AC games villains? E.g. the POPE. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

first off you're assuming no one knows about Borgia's vices. Even Catholics are quite aware of renaissance decadence. So yeeeeeah. The first game established that racial, political borders are artificial by vilifying multiple ethnicities, while raising certain ethnicities conservative America considers to "dangerous." fact is many people around the world celebrate the enlightened founders of America. Maybe not all of their ideals, but definitely their pursuit of freedom and prosperity (which was actually property before the constitution was written).

Twiddledum1506
11-28-2011, 04:13 PM
victorian england http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

LightRey
11-28-2011, 04:16 PM
Last time I checked not even the Catholic church was too happy with the Borgias. They were quite accurately depicted in ACII and ACB.

tarrero
11-28-2011, 04:27 PM
Rise of the British Empire!!!

They had a huge influence over Egypt for instance, so we could visit that place, but on the XIX century, and same goes to India by the way, No feudal Japan/China, PLEASE!!!

I also dig the idea of the Spanish Conquest, love to see Tenochtitlan.

But I guess the French revolution and American revolution are more likely, although I dont know if cities like boston or philly were big enough at the time.

freddie_1897
11-28-2011, 04:33 PM
Victorian England BUT DO IT DURING SUMMER OR WE WON'T BE SEEING ANYTHING.also, you should do London and it's nearby villages as the countryside in England is beautiful during summer.

deskpe
11-28-2011, 04:42 PM
"The overthrow of the Tsar Empire by the Communists during the Russian Revolution"

or victorian england

rob.davies2014
11-28-2011, 05:07 PM
Here's a screenshot of the survey, curtesy of Empire State Gamer:

http://www.empirestategamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Assassins-Creed-Possible-Storylines-Edit-e1322464225390.jpg?9d7bd4

I really want to know what the rest of the survey entails. I remember how before Revelations there was a survey and most of the questions turned out to be an element that was included in the game.

So if anyone has done it please tell what the other Qs were or even better; provide a link http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Arbus87
11-28-2011, 05:30 PM
XIX century = guns everywhere = no fun

For me it's really that simple. Assassin's creed has developed a great meele combat system, and if you want a believable scenario after the widespread of gunpower (XIX century and beyond), you can't have that meele combat. Even the french revolution is almost at the edge, but I concede that Paris in 1789 would be great and one of the last times we could use see meele combat portaited in a believable way.

Now feudal japan or china don't have do be cliche, or all "ninja" like and lame. Ubisoft can do it well, avoid all the folklore, and do something worthy of the franchise. New combat moves, great armors, completely different cities, paper walls and all their possibilities, awesome music. The more I think of it the more I like it. And I hate ninjas, and the ridiculous way feudal japan is often represented, but this one time, if there's anyone able to do it, it's ubisoft.

kriegerdesgottes
11-28-2011, 05:40 PM
No revolutionary France? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I'd prefer that over any of those options but I really don't want an ancient setting for the reason that it would be too difficult to accurately recreate the time period and characters and I don't want an Asian setting at all as long as Desmond is the ancestor so I'd have to settle on Victoria England or even better late 18th century England.

Arbus87
11-28-2011, 05:51 PM
Revolutionary France, os pre-revolutionary france, is likely the next AC... AC3 has been in development since AC2 (the first, italian cities), so the theme has been defined long ago and that's why you don't see it in the list. AC3 will also be the last "episode" of the story of desdmon, so the next AC will have a new main character.

LieutenantJojo
11-28-2011, 06:12 PM
Of the choices in the list, I prefer England, but overall, I'd like France. But this doesn't mean that it has to be the setting for AC3. I would be fine with it being in a later AC game.

As long as the setting for AC3 is well designed and fun to play in, I'm good. I'd prefer if they gave us more cities to free-roam in than they did in ACB and ACR, though.

Radman500
11-28-2011, 06:33 PM
like someone said earlier, this basically confirm's it

AC3- The French Revolution

rileypoole1234
11-28-2011, 06:46 PM
I walk around London everyday imagining how I could climb Big Ben or Parliament or even Buckingham Palace (depending on when they set the game). It would be a fantastic game. I can imagine sitting on top of a building, looking over the rooftops and the fog-filled streets with the smoke coming out of all the chimneys, slinking down to the ground, walking with my walking stick and my top hat(with hood attached of course) into the nearest Assassin's hideout. Maybe they could bend history even and say the Sherlock Holmes was in fact a real person, only later made out to be fictional, and he could act like Da Vinci and Q from James Bond.

Goxxi
11-28-2011, 07:02 PM
I hope these locations are for some next AC after the AC3 couse I bealive that AC3 is already placed in French Revolution and that why French Revolution isn't on the list http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

If I would have to choose from the list then the Russia would be my choice or eventually England.

Also I think the good setting would be South and Central America in late 18 and 19 century during the many of rebellions of the African slaves.
It would be really intresting to see Brasil or Carribean islands.
Also one of the characters in the game and Master Assassin could be a Jean-Jacques Dessalines the Haitian revolutionist and leader of the rebel African slaves from Haiti.

rain89c
11-28-2011, 07:11 PM
Lol, how is French rev not being in the list = confirmation AC3 = set in French Rev?

If it aint on the list, then it simply means they arent considering it as a possible setting.

Echo Yin
11-28-2011, 07:20 PM
I'd like the background in Medieval China.
It could be very nice if playing as Shao Jun. That must be a very different and magnificent gameplay!!

IrishMan2011
11-28-2011, 07:34 PM
Irish assassin as the protagonist for victorian london game! i am actually a scot i don't want to play as an english man a scottish or irish assassin would be better due to the history of antagonism with the english and if the english where the templars that antagonism would work better.

tarrero
11-28-2011, 07:52 PM
For sure, I want to begin as a "side" assassin, ay first being just "one of the others" and later shine....

rain89c
11-28-2011, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by tarrero:
For sure, I want to begin as a "side" assassin, ay first being just "one of the others" and later shine....
Just think of how awesome it would be to play as a farmer at age 16 or so doing simple tasked missions, then eventually joining the Ninja clan and eventually finding their way into the Assassin order. Bringing in the Ninja arts into the order, evolving the order's stealth abilities and tactical abilities against Samurais, templars, and such.
All I see is awesomeness in Japanese and Chinese settings.
They are already copying the Ninja's pack mentality when free running on rooftops, its only inevitable to put in Ninjas and set it in Japan or China. What are we still doing in England or Europe?? Zzz.. Change the regions.

Not like how AC2/B/R & Ezio ruined the Assassin order, cmon man, bombs, causing loud explosion,...using flame throwers, den tower defense, REALLY!? and running around kamikaze and screaming I, EZIO AUDITORE IS HERE, FEAR ME!!
straight up contradiction to Altair's loyalty to the creed's principles. Ezio and his order are a disgrace to the creed.

kudos17
11-28-2011, 08:07 PM
No French Revolution?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Guess we're going to Russia. That sounds the coolest IMO. Could care less about Asia/Egypt. It's not that they're not cool (I love historical backgrounds), but I just have nothing to connect to. AC1 was cool, cause I'm Syrian. AC2/Brotherhood were cool, cause I'm Spanish (screw it, close enough *trollface*), AC:R was cool cause... well, a bit of everything was in Constantinople, and I dig the Turkish.

...

'Kay, so, not really good reasons, but long story short I don't care much for Asia/Egypt. Just too big of a disconnect to my western setting.

American Revolution would be cool - would explain how Desmond's line got to America (although, to be honest, Assasins travel a lot so that wouldn't really matter, but some Assassin's had to settle down somewhere). It would also be AWESOME to see famous characters from that time brought to the light (Spoiler: George Washington was actually an a-hole, and not the truth-telling saint most Americans believe from the legends!)

Hmmm... tricky, tricky. Maybe England, too? But I don't really want to hear more English... I like the brief interrupts of other languages.

Radman500
11-28-2011, 08:08 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rain89c:
Lol, how is French rev not being in the list = confirmation AC3 = set in French Rev?

If it aint on the list, then it simply means they arent considering it as a possible setting.[/QUOTE

it doesn't 100 percent confirm it.... but its most likely true

you just don't want it in the french rev.. lets be honest

tarrero
11-28-2011, 08:08 PM
I would take India over China and Japan everyday, because it is been done hundreds of times, and originality is something that has made AC franchise this good.....

rain89c
11-28-2011, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Radman500:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rain89c:
Lol, how is French rev not being in the list = confirmation AC3 = set in French Rev?

If it aint on the list, then it simply means they arent considering it as a possible setting.[/QUOTE

it doesn't 100 percent confirm it.... but its most likely true

you just don't want it in the french rev.. lets be honest
hehe, or it could be vice versa, you just want it too much.
the survey proves otherwise.

albertwesker22
11-28-2011, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by IrishMan2011:
Irish assassin as the protagonist for victorian london game! i am actually a scot i don't want to play as an english man a scottish or irish assassin would be better due to the history of antagonism with the english and if the english where the templars that antagonism would work better.

Enough with that Braveheart crap. Seriously, if the English monarchy are Templars, that doesn't mean the Assassin can not be an English man.

I don't want to assume you are a xenophobic Scot, but that type of story sounds too much like Braveheart.

Radman500
11-28-2011, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Radman500:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rain89c:
Lol, how is French rev not being in the list = confirmation AC3 = set in French Rev?

If it aint on the list, then it simply means they arent considering it as a possible setting.[/QUOTE

it doesn't 100 percent confirm it.... but its most likely true

you just don't want it in the french rev.. lets be honest
hehe, or it could be vice versa, you just want it too much.
the survey proves otherwise. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

its obvious you don't want it to be french revolution, when most fans want it to be

why would they release a list in november 2011 for AC3, which is suppose to come out december 2012.... if it was for AC3 its simply telling us they haven't started to work on it...

rain89c
11-28-2011, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Radman500:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Radman500:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rain89c:
Lol, how is French rev not being in the list = confirmation AC3 = set in French Rev?

If it aint on the list, then it simply means they arent considering it as a possible setting.[/QUOTE

it doesn't 100 percent confirm it.... but its most likely true

you just don't want it in the french rev.. lets be honest
hehe, or it could be vice versa, you just want it too much.
the survey proves otherwise. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

its obvious you don't want it to be french revolution, when most fans want it to be

why would they release a list in november 2011 for AC3, which is suppose to come out december 2012.... if it was for AC3 its simply telling us they haven't started to work on it... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
LOL most fans? this forum only represents a SMALL portion of BIASED fans who are against anything -Non-European-.
I wouldn't be surprised if the results of the survey conducted by Ubi were given out a week later, and reveals Feudal Japan to rank at #1 or #2.
Feudal Japan would lose in terms of popularity in THIS forum ONLY.

Radman500
11-28-2011, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Radman500:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Radman500:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rain89c:
Lol, how is French rev not being in the list = confirmation AC3 = set in French Rev?

If it aint on the list, then it simply means they arent considering it as a possible setting.[/QUOTE

it doesn't 100 percent confirm it.... but its most likely true

you just don't want it in the french rev.. lets be honest
hehe, or it could be vice versa, you just want it too much.
the survey proves otherwise. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

its obvious you don't want it to be french revolution, when most fans want it to be

why would they release a list in november 2011 for AC3, which is suppose to come out december 2012.... if it was for AC3 its simply telling us they haven't started to work on it... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
LOL most fans? this forum only represents a SMALL portion of BIASED fans who are against anything -Non-European-.
I wouldn't be surprised if the results of the survey conducted by Ubi were given out a week later, and reveals Feudal Japan to rank at #1 or #2.
Feudal Japan would lose in terms of popularity in THIS forum ONLY. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

its obvious you want anything that's Anti-White/Non-White

the fact is the French Revolution sounds more plausible then Japan, since Ubisoft said themselves they weren't going to any Asian Countries soon

take that

EUROPEAN FOREVER.....

rain89c
11-28-2011, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by Radman500:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Radman500:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Radman500:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rain89c:
Lol, how is French rev not being in the list = confirmation AC3 = set in French Rev?

If it aint on the list, then it simply means they arent considering it as a possible setting.[/QUOTE

it doesn't 100 percent confirm it.... but its most likely true

you just don't want it in the french rev.. lets be honest
hehe, or it could be vice versa, you just want it too much.
the survey proves otherwise. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

its obvious you don't want it to be french revolution, when most fans want it to be

why would they release a list in november 2011 for AC3, which is suppose to come out december 2012.... if it was for AC3 its simply telling us they haven't started to work on it... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
LOL most fans? this forum only represents a SMALL portion of BIASED fans who are against anything -Non-European-.
I wouldn't be surprised if the results of the survey conducted by Ubi were given out a week later, and reveals Feudal Japan to rank at #1 or #2.
Feudal Japan would lose in terms of popularity in THIS forum ONLY. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

its obvious you want anything that's Anti-White.....

the fact is the French Revolution sounds more plausible then Japan, since Ubisoft said themselves they weren't going to any Asian Countries soon

take that

EUROPEAN FOREVER..... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
...If i was anti-European, my interest in AC would have died long after AC2 came out, but I have actually played all the AC games till now, I've given it a try and it is getting boring.

I just think European settings are zZz, we've already had 3 games set in it now. I believe it's time to move out of there.

tarrero
11-28-2011, 08:27 PM
I am European myself, visiting some relatives in America right now, and I would take India over Japan and its ninjas if we talk about Asian countries, ninjas are too cliché and overused.

FACT

PD: Even though ACII is the best game so far, ACI and Revelations had the best settings.

But face it dude, French Revolution offers great chances of having a solid plot.

Animuses
11-28-2011, 08:28 PM
If this thread is seriously asking for the location of AC3, I lost all hope for the game. The location should've been picked somewhat recently after AC2. The whole story should be mapped out already as well.

Radman500
11-28-2011, 08:30 PM
plus from playing the da vinci dissaperance the french revolution sounds more plausible then an east asian country

tarrero
11-28-2011, 08:43 PM
Well, considering that we have, literally, HUNDREDS of mangas, movies, animes and video games(tenchu being awesome btw) etc etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_in_popular_culture

Ninjas, even though suit perfectly with the whole idea of the game, are overused.

FACT

rain89c
11-28-2011, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by tarrero:
Well, considering that we have, literally, HUNDREDS of mangas, movies, animes and video games(tenchu being awesome btw) etc etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_in_popular_culture

Ninjas, even though suit perfectly with the whole idea of the game, are overused.

FACT
Any of them done on a realistic simulation-like way like AC? That's right, not ever.
Didn't many people rejected AC3 to be in China at first? Now that people watched Embers, there are some that are actually wanting it now.

And you just admitted yourself that Ninjas suit perfectly for the Assassin role. There's no way Ubi would not take that opportunity to use them, it would be a waste NOT to use them.

kriegerdesgottes
11-28-2011, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Animuses:
If this thread is seriously asking for the location of AC3, I lost all hope for the game. The location should've been picked somewhat recently after AC2. The whole story should be mapped out already as well.

I agree. This survey's mere existence scares me a little.

Radman500
11-28-2011, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tarrero:
Well, considering that we have, literally, HUNDREDS of mangas, movies, animes and video games(tenchu being awesome btw) etc etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_in_popular_culture

Ninjas, even though suit perfectly with the whole idea of the game, are overused.

FACT
Any of them done on a realistic simulation-like way like AC? That's right, not ever.
Didn't many people rejected AC3 to be in China at first? Now that people watched Embers, there are some that are actually wanting it now.

And you just admitted yourself that Ninjas suit perfectly for the Assassin role. There's no way Ubi would not take that opportunity to use them, it would be a waste NOT to use them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ubisoft said they were not going to do asian based games, and good for them

rain89c
11-28-2011, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by Radman500:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tarrero:
Well, considering that we have, literally, HUNDREDS of mangas, movies, animes and video games(tenchu being awesome btw) etc etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_in_popular_culture

Ninjas, even though suit perfectly with the whole idea of the game, are overused.

FACT
Any of them done on a realistic simulation-like way like AC? That's right, not ever.
Didn't many people rejected AC3 to be in China at first? Now that people watched Embers, there are some that are actually wanting it now.

And you just admitted yourself that Ninjas suit perfectly for the Assassin role. There's no way Ubi would not take that opportunity to use them, it would be a waste NOT to use them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ubisoft said they were not going to do asian based games, and good for them </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
?
The recent survey of setting locations contradicts with your current claim.

Radman500
11-28-2011, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Radman500:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tarrero:
Well, considering that we have, literally, HUNDREDS of mangas, movies, animes and video games(tenchu being awesome btw) etc etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_in_popular_culture

Ninjas, even though suit perfectly with the whole idea of the game, are overused.

FACT
Any of them done on a realistic simulation-like way like AC? That's right, not ever.
Didn't many people rejected AC3 to be in China at first? Now that people watched Embers, there are some that are actually wanting it now.

And you just admitted yourself that Ninjas suit perfectly for the Assassin role. There's no way Ubi would not take that opportunity to use them, it would be a waste NOT to use them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ubisoft said they were not going to do asian based games, and good for them </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
?
The recent survey of setting locations contradicts with your current claim. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

and what if it is the French Revolution, what are you going to do...

tarrero
11-28-2011, 09:13 PM
Realistic simulation of a non cliche setting>>>>Realistic simulation on a cliche setting.

At least to me...

And if that survey is true, it worries me, I dont want another rushed game, even though I liked Revelations alot more that Brotherhood.

Radman500
11-28-2011, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by tarrero:
Realistic simulation of a non cliche setting>>>>Realistic simulation on a cliche setting.

At least to me...

And if that survey is true, it worries me, I dont want another rushed game, even though I liked Revelations alot more that Brotherhood.


define "cliche"

tarrero
11-28-2011, 10:31 PM
By cliche I mean "cliche is an expression, idea, or element of an artistic work which has been overused to the point of losing its original meaning or effect"

Therefore, I am talking about Ninja stuff, done like 1000 million times....

twenty_glyphs
11-29-2011, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
I agree. This survey's mere existence scares me a little.

I seriously doubt this survey is meant for AC3 in 2012, but for the series beyond that. A Ubisoft Montreal recruiter posted on Twitter just last week that they were looking for a talented creative director to work on the Assassin's Creed brand (https://twitter.com/borbok/status/139007231583727617). That also can't be for AC3, or else the whole franchise is in trouble. It seems like they are starting to plan for the next iteration of the series after the 2012 plot line runs its course.

Agentbarto
11-29-2011, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
I agree. This survey's mere existence scares me a little.

I seriously doubt this survey is meant for AC3 in 2012, but for the series beyond that. A Ubisoft Montreal recruiter posted on Twitter just last week that they were looking for a talented creative director to work on the Assassin's Creed brand (https://twitter.com/borbok/status/139007231583727617). That also can't be for AC3, or else the whole franchise is in trouble. It seems like they are starting to plan for the next iteration of the series after the 2012 plot line runs its course. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would love to fulfill that role. Ubi pick me, pick me!!!

eagleforlife1
11-29-2011, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by tarrero:
By cliche I mean "cliche is an expression, idea, or element of an artistic work which has been overused to the point of losing its original meaning or effect"

Therefore, I am talking about Ninja stuff, done like 1000 million times....

You lost your credibility when you said 1,000 million times...

kriegerdesgottes
11-29-2011, 01:16 AM
[


I seriously doubt this survey is meant for AC3 in 2012, but for the series beyond that. A Ubisoft Montreal recruiter posted on Twitter just last week that they were looking for a talented creative director to work on the Assassin's Creed brand (https://twitter.com/borbok/status/139007231583727617). That also can't be for AC3, or else the whole franchise is in trouble. It seems like they are starting to plan for the next iteration of the series after the 2012 plot line runs its course.

Yikes I didn't know that about searching for a creative director. So either you are right which is totally plausible or Alex has stepped down being that he clearly doesn't enjoy the cameras like Patrice did or Ubisoft decided to replace him. But your theory that they are asking for the games beyond AC3 certainly did cross my mind but for now we don't know for sure. Now I'm super interested in whether or not Alex will still be creative director next year.

LightRey
11-29-2011, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tarrero:
By cliche I mean "cliche is an expression, idea, or element of an artistic work which has been overused to the point of losing its original meaning or effect"

Therefore, I am talking about Ninja stuff, done like 1000 million times....

You lost your credibility when you said 1,000 million times... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It's called a hyberpole. It's a rhetorical device. As Wikipedia puts it quite well:


It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally.

souNdwAve89
11-29-2011, 02:11 AM
It can be anything to be honest. The team behind the AC games have always been different besides AC1 and AC2. I hope the reason why they are looking for a new Creative Director is not because of Revelations' review score. The rating is in the low 80's while past titles were in the high 80's and low 90's (except AC1).

liebedich555
11-29-2011, 02:47 AM
I hope AC3 will be in china,it will be very funny.

eagleforlife1
11-29-2011, 07:47 AM
Is this poll going to be made public?

twenty_glyphs
11-29-2011, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
Yikes I didn't know that about searching for a creative director. So either you are right which is totally plausible or Alex has stepped down being that he clearly doesn't enjoy the cameras like Patrice did or Ubisoft decided to replace him. But your theory that they are asking for the games beyond AC3 certainly did cross my mind but for now we don't know for sure. Now I'm super interested in whether or not Alex will still be creative director next year.

I never would have expected Alex Amancio to be creative director on AC3 in 2012 because that game has likely been in some kind of development for almost 2 years with its own creative director.

eagleforlife1
11-29-2011, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tarrero:
By cliche I mean "cliche is an expression, idea, or element of an artistic work which has been overused to the point of losing its original meaning or effect"

Therefore, I am talking about Ninja stuff, done like 1000 million times....

You lost your credibility when you said 1,000 million times... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It's called a hyberpole. It's a rhetorical device. As Wikipedia puts it quite well:


It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bloody hell, has anybody ever told you that you can be a patronising, condescending chauvinist at times?

And just so that you know for future reference it is called a hyperbole.

LightRey
11-29-2011, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
Bloody hell, has anybody ever told you that you can be a patronising, condescending chauvinist at times?

And just so that you know for future reference it is called a hyperbole.
Sry, typo. It was late and I was tired when I wrote that.

Way to be a hypocrite btw.

Oh and that's an incorrect use of the word "chauvinist". Chauvinism is an extreme form of nationalism or any similar attitude involving kinds of affiliations other than nations.

SwiftAura2011
11-29-2011, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by johnnyhayek:
Any of those locations are good, but please for the love of God, do not set any of the next few AC games in America. American history is just too lame honestly.

I completly agree...American history has been done to death..plus, who doesn't know about all the American "conspiracy" theories? It's almost as though no other country has ever had interesting historical events or people. And I for one am sick to death of their "history." Factual or fictional... who can tell since they ALWAYS seem to come out on top no matter what...so lame.

eagleforlife1
11-29-2011, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
Bloody hell, has anybody ever told you that you can be a patronising, condescending chauvinist at times?

And just so that you know for future reference it is called a hyperbole.
Sry, typo. It was late and I was tired when I wrote that.

Way to be a hypocrite btw.

Oh and that's an incorrect use of the word "chauvinist". Chauvinism is an extreme form of nationalism or any similar attitude involving kinds of affiliations other than nations. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It was a concious decision to be a hypocrite to give you a taste of your own medicine.

Chauvinism can be nationalistic but is can also be used in terms of social class, sexism, intellect, etc. according to the OED it is an 'unreasoning, overenthusiastic and aggressive person with a sense of superiority'.

LightRey
11-29-2011, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
It was a concious decision to be a hypocrite to give you a taste of your own medicine.

Chauvinism can be nationalistic but is can also be used in terms of social class, sexism, intellect, etc. according to the OED it is an unreasoning, overenthusiastic and aggressive person with a sense of superiority.
chauvinism n. 1 exaggerated or aggressive patriotism. 2 excessive or prejudiced support or loyalty for one's own cause, group or sex.

Concise Oxford English Dictionary > Microsoft Word Dictionary.

SwiftAura2011
11-29-2011, 09:25 AM
I say that whatever location they choose, there HAS TO BE some historical reference to the existence of both Templars and Assassins and since the Templars are closely linked to Christianity, how could they even come close to Asian countries?
Neither Japan nor China have ever (to my knowledge) ever embraced the 'Christian' faith/belief system.

As for where the next AC should be, I think that since Ezio aluded to it more than once in ACB that anything to do with South America and the Spanish would fit well with the historical flow of the series.

rain89c
11-29-2011, 09:30 AM
Lightrey this forum is your life, congrats on winning your 5744th online argument. You feel better now?

LightRey
11-29-2011, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
It was a concious decision to be a hypocrite to give you a taste of your own medicine.

Chauvinism can be nationalistic but is can also be used in terms of social class, sexism, intellect, etc. according to the OED it is an unreasoning, overenthusiastic and aggressive person with a sense of superiority.
chauvinism n. 1 exaggerated or aggressive patriotism. 2 excessive or prejudiced support or loyalty for one's own cause, group or sex.

Concise Oxford English Dictionary > Microsoft Word Dictionary. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://navasamhita.blogspot.co...tual-chauvinism.html (http://navasamhita.blogspot.com/2007/07/intellectual-chauvinism.html) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ah good. You're using blogspot as a reference now. Yes, that's much better than using the Microsoft Word Dictionary. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Oh, and I see you do the same all the time, maybe even more often than myself, so I'd tone it down a little lest people start seeing you as the forum hypocrite.

eagleforlife1
11-29-2011, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
2 excessive or prejudiced support or loyalty for one's own cause, group or sex.


Yeah, the 2011 hardback version of the OED says something similar.

'Excessive loyalty or belief in the superiority of one's self and prejudice against others'.

rain89c
11-29-2011, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by SwiftAura2011:
I say that whatever location they choose, there HAS TO BE some historical reference to the existence of both Templars and Assassins and since the Templars are closely linked to Christianity, how could they even come close to Asian countries?
Neither Japan nor China have ever (to my knowledge) ever embraced the 'Christian' faith/belief system.

As for where the next AC should be, I think that since Ezio aluded to it more than once in ACB that anything to do with South America and the Spanish would fit well with the historical flow of the series.
You're basically making up a silly rule to say we can't have ac3 set here and there because they ain't got this and that. If that was truly the case, why did they include china and Japan in the survey? That shows how unimportant having a foundation of christianity in the settting is. Ideaologies and beliefs evolve over time.

LightRey
11-29-2011, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
2 excessive or prejudiced support or loyalty for one's own cause, group or sex.


Yeah, the 2011 hardback version of the OED says something similar.

'Excessive loyalty or belief in the superiority of one's self and prejudice against others'. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well there you have it then. I don't believe I'm superior to you in any way.

eagleforlife1
11-29-2011, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
It was a concious decision to be a hypocrite to give you a taste of your own medicine.

Chauvinism can be nationalistic but is can also be used in terms of social class, sexism, intellect, etc. according to the OED it is an unreasoning, overenthusiastic and aggressive person with a sense of superiority.
chauvinism n. 1 exaggerated or aggressive patriotism. 2 excessive or prejudiced support or loyalty for one's own cause, group or sex.

Concise Oxford English Dictionary > Microsoft Word Dictionary. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://navasamhita.blogspot.co...tual-chauvinism.html (http://navasamhita.blogspot.com/2007/07/intellectual-chauvinism.html) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ah good. You're using blogspot as a reference now. Yes, that's much better than using the Microsoft Word Dictionary. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Oh, and I see you do the same all the time, maybe even more often than myself, so I'd tone it down a little lest people start seeing you as the forum hypocrite. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just showing you an example of intellectual chauvinism used by somebody other than me. I lazily clicked the first link on google (sorry if that isn't good enough for you).

I couldn't care less about being seen as the forum hypocrite mate. I have already told you that I am doing it to you because you did it to me. I am not normally like that in real life I am a friendly, likeable person who hates arguing but your point really riled me as it wasn't even aimed at you but you decided to get involved just because you can.

eagleforlife1
11-29-2011, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
2 excessive or prejudiced support or loyalty for one's own cause, group or sex.


Yeah, the 2011 hardback version of the OED says something similar.

'Excessive loyalty or belief in the superiority of one's self and prejudice against others'. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well there you have it then. I don't believe I'm superior to you in any way. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You've got a funny way of showing it.

LightRey
11-29-2011, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
Just showing you an example of intellectual chauvinism used by somebody other than me. I lazily clicked the first link on google (sorry if that isn't good enough for you).

I couldn't care less about being seen as the forum hypocrite mate. I have already told you that I am doing it to you because you did it to me. I am not normally like that in real life I am a friendly, likeable person who hates arguing but your point really riled me as it wasn't even aimed at you but you decided to get involved just because you can.
You do realize that that post of yours I originally responded to basically carried the same attitude as mine did, right?

The guy made a valid point, using a hyperbole. Your response was therefore invalid, which I simply made clear by giving you an explanation. If that's enough to tick you off so much that you would go off topic like this and start a whole discussion about how "chauvinistic" I am or not, then that's really your problem.

rain89c
11-29-2011, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
Just showing you an example of intellectual chauvinism used by somebody other than me. I lazily clicked the first link on google (sorry if that isn't good enough for you).

I couldn't care less about being seen as the forum hypocrite mate. I have already told you that I am doing it to you because you did it to me. I am not normally like that in real life I am a friendly, likeable person who hates arguing but your point really riled me as it wasn't even aimed at you but you decided to get involved just because you can.
You do realize that that post of yours I originally responded to basically carried the same attitude as mine did, right?

The guy made a valid point, using a hyperbole. Your response was therefore invalid, which I simply made clear by giving you an explanation. If that's enough to tick you off so much that you would go off topic like this and start a whole discussion about how "chauvinistic" I am or not, then that's really your problem. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think the only one here being ticked off here is you. You seem to always like to argue, argue about even the smallest unimportant things just to prove your right, when in reality nobody even cares.

eagleforlife1
11-29-2011, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
Just showing you an example of intellectual chauvinism used by somebody other than me. I lazily clicked the first link on google (sorry if that isn't good enough for you).

I couldn't care less about being seen as the forum hypocrite mate. I have already told you that I am doing it to you because you did it to me. I am not normally like that in real life I am a friendly, likeable person who hates arguing but your point really riled me as it wasn't even aimed at you but you decided to get involved just because you can.
You do realize that that post of yours I originally responded to basically carried the same attitude as mine did, right?

The guy made a valid point, using a hyperbole. Your response was therefore invalid, which I simply made clear by giving you an explanation. If that's enough to tick you off so much that you would go off topic like this and start a whole discussion about how "chauvinistic" I am or not, then that's really your problem. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're right, although I didn't respond to him in such a demeaning way.

LightRey
11-29-2011, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by rain89c:
I think the only one here being ticked off here is you. You seem to always like to argue, argue about even the smallest unimportant things just to prove your right, when in reality nobody even cares.
I do that because I like to, not because I'm ticked off.

rain89c
11-29-2011, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
I think the only one here being ticked off here is you. You seem to always like to argue, argue about even the smallest unimportant things just to prove your right, when in reality nobody even cares.
I do that because I like to, not because I'm ticked off. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Only reason to want to argue so much is to get relief from being ticked off. A way to vent your anger.

LightRey
11-29-2011, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by rain89c:
Only reason to want to argue so much is to get relief from being ticked off. A way to vent your anger.
Nah, not really. I use video games to vent my anger. Telling people they're wrong is just a hobby of mine. Just ask my friends (if you ever get a chance to meet them that is).

eagleforlife1
11-29-2011, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
Only reason to want to argue so much is to get relief from being ticked off. A way to vent your anger.
Nah, not really. I use video games to vent my anger. Telling people they're wrong is just a hobby of mine. Just ask my friends (if you ever get a chance to meet them that is). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good grief http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

A sign of feeling that you are superior to others that you think that you are always right and everybody else is wrong.

twenty_glyphs
11-29-2011, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by SwiftAura2011:
I say that whatever location they choose, there HAS TO BE some historical reference to the existence of both Templars and Assassins and since the Templars are closely linked to Christianity, how could they even come close to Asian countries?
Neither Japan nor China have ever (to my knowledge) ever embraced the 'Christian' faith/belief system.

The Knights Templar are just one public face of the "Templar" organization in the AC story. Subject 16 described them as "the Organization" when talking about an earlier version of the Templars in one of AC2's Truth puzzles, and the Encyclopedia makes it clear that the Knights Templar under the Church were just the first time the Order had a public face. The red cross is the Mark of Cain and is their sign, but the link to Christianity does not have to stay.

The current version of them at Abstergo has nothing to do with the Church or Christianity. The link to the Church seems to have been for convenience, since it was the most powerful organization at the time of the Crusades and into the Renaissance. Once the world changed and Corporations became the organizations with all the power, the Templars insinuated themselves into that world instead. The Templars (and Assassins) can be linked to any faction in history and don't have to be linked to Christianity.

LightRey
11-29-2011, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
Only reason to want to argue so much is to get relief from being ticked off. A way to vent your anger.
Nah, not really. I use video games to vent my anger. Telling people they're wrong is just a hobby of mine. Just ask my friends (if you ever get a chance to meet them that is). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good grief http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

A sign of feeling that you are superior to others that you think that you are always right and everybody else is wrong. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't think I'm always right. It's just that when I do I say so.

eagleforlife1
11-29-2011, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
Only reason to want to argue so much is to get relief from being ticked off. A way to vent your anger.
Nah, not really. I use video games to vent my anger. Telling people they're wrong is just a hobby of mine. Just ask my friends (if you ever get a chance to meet them that is). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good grief http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

A sign of feeling that you are superior to others that you think that you are always right and everybody else is wrong. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't think I'm always right. It's just that when I do I say so. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So does everybody but they don't make a hobby out of it.

LightRey
11-29-2011, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
So does everybody but they don't make a hobby out of it.
Well I do.
http://thegurglingcod.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c387d53ef0148c84decb8970c-320wi

eagleforlife1
11-29-2011, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
So does everybody but they don't make a hobby out of it.
Well I do.
http://thegurglingcod.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c387d53ef0148c84decb8970c-320wi </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

To quote Alfred Adler:

"We should not be astonished if in the cases where we see an inferiority [feeling] complex we find a superiority complex more or less hidden. On the other hand, if we inquire into a superiority complex and study its continuity, we can always find a more or less hidden inferiority [feeling] complex."

"If a person is a show-off it is only because he feels inferior, because he does not feel strong enough to compete with others on the useful side of life. That is why he stays on the useless side. He is not in harmony with society. It seems to be a trait of human nature that when individuals - both children and adults - feel weak, they want to solve the problems of life in such a way as to obtain personal superiority without any admixture of social interest. A superiority complex is a second phase. It is a compensation for the inferiority [feeling] complex."

"The superiority complex is one of the ways which a person with an inferiority [feeling] complex may use as a method of escape from his difficulties. He assumes that he is superior when he is not, and this false success compensates him for the state of inferiority which he cannot bear. The normal person does not have a superiority complex, he does not even have a sense of superiority. He has the striving to be superior in the sense that we all have ambition to be successful; but so long as this striving is expressed in work it does not lead to false valuations, which are at the root of mental disease."

rain89c
11-29-2011, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
So does everybody but they don't make a hobby out of it.
Well I do.
http://thegurglingcod.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c387d53ef0148c84decb8970c-320wi </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

To quote Alfred Adler:

"We should not be astonished if in the cases where we see an inferiority [feeling] complex we find a superiority complex more or less hidden. On the other hand, if we inquire into a superiority complex and study its continuity, we can always find a more or less hidden inferiority [feeling] complex."

"If a person is a show-off it is only because he feels inferior, because he does not feel strong enough to compete with others on the useful side of life. That is why he stays on the useless side. He is not in harmony with society. It seems to be a trait of human nature that when individuals - both children and adults - feel weak, they want to solve the problems of life in such a way as to obtain personal superiority without any admixture of social interest. A superiority complex is a second phase. It is a compensation for the inferiority [feeling] complex."

"The superiority complex is one of the ways which a person with an inferiority [feeling] complex may use as a method of escape from his difficulties. He assumes that he is superior when he is not, and this false success compensates him for the state of inferiority which he cannot bear. The normal person does not have a superiority complex, he does not even have a sense of superiority. He has the striving to be superior in the sense that we all have ambition to be successful; but so long as this striving is expressed in work it does not lead to false valuations, which are at the root of mental disease." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
My thoughts exactly. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

LightRey
11-29-2011, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
To quote Alfred Adler:

"We should not be astonished if in the cases where we see an inferiority [feeling] complex we find a superiority complex more or less hidden. On the other hand, if we inquire into a superiority complex and study its continuity, we can always find a more or less hidden inferiority [feeling] complex."

"If a person is a show-off it is only because he feels inferior, because he does not feel strong enough to compete with others on the useful side of life. That is why he stays on the useless side. He is not in harmony with society. It seems to be a trait of human nature that when individuals - both children and adults - feel weak, they want to solve the problems of life in such a way as to obtain personal superiority without any admixture of social interest. A superiority complex is a second phase. It is a compensation for the inferiority [feeling] complex."

"The superiority complex is one of the ways which a person with an inferiority [feeling] complex may use as a method of escape from his difficulties. He assumes that he is superior when he is not, and this false success compensates him for the state of inferiority which he cannot bear. The normal person does not have a superiority complex, he does not even have a sense of superiority. He has the striving to be superior in the sense that we all have ambition to be successful; but so long as this striving is expressed in work it does not lead to false valuations, which are at the root of mental disease."
You trying to insult me broah?

eagleforlife1
11-29-2011, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
To quote Alfred Adler:

"We should not be astonished if in the cases where we see an inferiority [feeling] complex we find a superiority complex more or less hidden. On the other hand, if we inquire into a superiority complex and study its continuity, we can always find a more or less hidden inferiority [feeling] complex."

"If a person is a show-off it is only because he feels inferior, because he does not feel strong enough to compete with others on the useful side of life. That is why he stays on the useless side. He is not in harmony with society. It seems to be a trait of human nature that when individuals - both children and adults - feel weak, they want to solve the problems of life in such a way as to obtain personal superiority without any admixture of social interest. A superiority complex is a second phase. It is a compensation for the inferiority [feeling] complex."

"The superiority complex is one of the ways which a person with an inferiority [feeling] complex may use as a method of escape from his difficulties. He assumes that he is superior when he is not, and this false success compensates him for the state of inferiority which he cannot bear. The normal person does not have a superiority complex, he does not even have a sense of superiority. He has the striving to be superior in the sense that we all have ambition to be successful; but so long as this striving is expressed in work it does not lead to false valuations, which are at the root of mental disease."
You trying to insult me broah? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not at all, quite the opposite. I am worried for you and I am trying to help you.

LightRey
11-29-2011, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
Not at all, quite the opposite. I am worried for you and I am trying to help you.
Ah, so you're just being condescending.

eagleforlife1
11-29-2011, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
Not at all, quite the opposite. I am worried for you and I am trying to help you.
Ah, so you're just being condescending. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Condescending? No, I am genuinely trying to help you.

RebeccaLH
11-29-2011, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by RussellSparrow:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RebeccaLH:
Not England.
I see it enough everyday. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
Not through the eyes of a 19th century Assassin.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
How would you know,i may have already been in the animus http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif. Plus i live near lots of victorian buildings. So not England.
I want China. Or Russia.

LightRey
11-29-2011, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
Not at all, quite the opposite. I am worried for you and I am trying to help you.
Ah, so you're just being condescending. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Condescending? No, I am genuinely trying to help you. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
That doesn't mean you're not condescending.

UBOSOFT-Gamer
11-29-2011, 12:19 PM
i don't think we will have the fench rev, because ubisoft nevers uses the settings which are hypend, before an AC game comes out.

vict. eng. for the win!

http://photos2.meetupstatic.com/photos/event/8/7/2/5/highres_6694597.jpeg

perfect running place for an assassin http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
http://webpage.pace.edu/nreagin/F2005WS267/NicoleLemieux/cheapside1900.jpg

we may would visit windsor castle http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Windsor_Castle_at_Sunset_-_Nov_2006.jpg/800px-Windsor_Castle_at_Sunset_-_Nov_2006.jpg

http://www.kto-to.de/bilder/windsor-castle-p252.jpg

http://www.royal-windsor.com/images/castle/state-apartments-windsor-castle.jpg

LightRey
11-29-2011, 12:23 PM
Y'know, looking at those pics I think Victorian England would indeed be a pretty good choice.

killzab
11-29-2011, 12:33 PM
You know, I think China or Japan are more hyped than French Revolution, and also visiting Versailles wouldn't be too bad ^^ !

THe__NoMaD
11-29-2011, 12:40 PM
The advent of the mighty British Empire during Victorian England.

This. I'm hoping it wouldn't just be London though. Perhaps Birmingham, Liverpool and Manchester could get thrown in too.

rob.davies2014
11-29-2011, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
Y'know, looking at those pics I think Victorian England would indeed be a pretty good choice.

This.

It's the ideal setting.
Just thought I'd throw this in as well. When I think of Assassin's Creed in Victorian London, I always remember this pic:
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8094/londonrooftops.jpg

freddie_1897
11-29-2011, 01:28 PM
UBISOFT if your reading this I just want to say that it's pretty obvious that the majority of people(myself included) want Victorian England as the main setting for the game after AC3. CONSIDERING that the French revolution is probably the setting for AC3.
SO Ubisoft I think you should do England for AC4
P.s the amazing pic above should be enough to convince most people!
P.P.s you had better make it so that we have to kill jack the ripper and springheeled jack! That would be epic!

freddie_1897
11-29-2011, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by RussellSparrow:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
Y'know, looking at those pics I think Victorian England would indeed be a pretty good choice.

This.

It's the ideal setting.Just thought I'd throw this in as well. When I think of Assassin's Creed in Victorian London, I always remember this pic:
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8094/londonrooftops.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE> that's an amazing pic! Where did you get it?

rileypoole1234
11-29-2011, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by freddie_1897:
that's an amazing pic! Where did you get it?

I've seen it on Google before. Search "Victorian London rooftops" on Google Images.

ajl992008
11-29-2011, 02:14 PM
i want it in victorian london, iread that at that time it was the largest city in the world, have the game like brotherhod and base it in london, make it 4 times the size of florence but have more diversity like in constantinople as apposed to rome, reason i say just london is becuase none of the other cities are as interesting or as memorable( i would know i live in england), plus PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have the voice actor for the assassin the guy who voiced the prince of persia in sands of time, two thrones and forgotten sands, sorry dont know his name but i think he would be perfect, the princes sarcastic behaviour would be very good on the character aswell becuase in pop it wasnt annoying but funny to see what deep trouble the prince is in, btw the pic a couple of posts above is amazing, if i didnt know it was a random pic you can put an assassin in it and say that it is concept art.

eagleforlife1
11-29-2011, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
Not at all, quite the opposite. I am worried for you and I am trying to help you.
Ah, so you're just being condescending. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Condescending? No, I am genuinely trying to help you. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
That doesn't mean you're not condescending. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I doesn't no. But I'm not.

n00bfi_97
11-29-2011, 02:39 PM
Victorian England for teh win.
And they say people hate their colonisers :P

The worst setting(in my opinion) would be China or Japan. Makes me want to stomp really hard on a baby. I am absolutely fed up with settings akin to the aforementioned.

giblet79
11-29-2011, 02:55 PM
1 Victorian England
2 Spanish Conquestadors
3 The American Revolution
4 Ancient Egypt
5 Ceasar's Empire
6 The Russian Revolution
7 Medieval China
8 Feudal Japan

SaintPerkele
11-29-2011, 03:16 PM
Have to agree with those people who believe that this will only concern future AC games after the end of the Desmond series - so it's probably the French Revolution then, so excited for this.

About the featured ideas:
- The violent conflicts of the Imperial Dynasties in Medieval China - Sounds great actually, especially the 'going back to medieval times'-part. Asia would be completely different to previous games and I'm up for a change. I'd prefer China to Japan though.
- The advent of the mighty British Empire during Victorian England - YESYESYES! The artwork a couple of posts above mine says it all, Victorian England, especially London, would be a perfect AC setting.
- The culmination of the Pharaoh Reign in Ancient Egypt - Might be a bit too old actually. Moreover, the ancient egyptian cities - despite being beautiful for sure - aren't suitable for an AC game in terms of size as far as I know.
- The invasion of the Americas by the Spanish Conquistadors - Same here, Tenochticlan is the only huge city I can think off. And that exact location along with a whole story was featured in Project Legacy. So no, I'm against this idea.
- The confrontation between British colonists and native Americans during The American Revolution - Never been a fan of the American Revolution and Civil Wars as an AC game and this still won't change. Not enough huge cities, too much gunfighting and so on.
- The overthrow of the Tsar Empire by the Communists during the Russian Revolution - Might be a tad to similar to The Fall... but who cares, that setting is awesome.
- The Warlord Battles in Feudal Japan - As said above, Asia would be a great new idea, but I'm not that much for the Feudal Japan idea.. But why not? I wouldn't mind. Just hoping it won't become one of those stupid ninja games (sorry fans, but that's just not my kind of game).
- The rise of Cesar’s Empire in Ancient Rome - Again, would be too similar to the French AC comics (Aquilus? Or something like that?). Moreover, Roman architecture was featured in every single AC game so far (Roman forum in the Kingdom in AC 1; Roman theatre in AC2; Half of the city in ACB; The old Byzantine buildings in ACR), which was quite nice.. but I've seen enough of it, time to move on.

rain89c
11-29-2011, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by RussellSparrow:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
Y'know, looking at those pics I think Victorian England would indeed be a pretty good choice.

This.

It's the ideal setting.
Just thought I'd throw this in as well. When I think of Assassin's Creed in Victorian London, I always remember this pic:
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8094/londonrooftops.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So you want AC3 to set in Florence again? =D
kind of a waste for the big #3

xacimo
11-29-2011, 03:46 PM
I really hope they stay away from America. Assassin's creed is all about ancient cities rich with history, culture and architecture. The environments need to be dense cities with rooftops to leap between, alleyways to hide in, and landmarks to give a sense of place. European cities fit this perfectly.

Colonial America is an awful setting for Assassins Creed. Muddy backwater frontier towns are not what the series is all about.

My pick would be Victorian England. London is a perfect setting for an Assassins Creed game. It is a famous and recognizable city, it is steeped in history and culture, and it has a fantastic atmosphere to it. The foggy gloomy air, the tall menacing buildings, historical figures like Jack the Ripper and Sherlock Holmes.

Russia would be another great setting. Its unique, its something which hasn't been done before, and Russia has some great cities with amazing Architecture (St Basils Cathedral, the Kremlin). I think the Russian Revolution setting might not work though, it is too modern and the style of warfare is too gun-focused.

Feudal Japan is a great fit for the series in terms of gameplay. It also has a setting rich in culture and tradition. The problem is that it is too cliched, Ninja games have been over exploited, and it has no originality.

The series has already been to Rome, so even though an ancient Roman setting could work well, it seems unlikely. If they were going to do Ancient Rome they should have integrated it into Brotherhood, which would have made an amazing game.

Ancient Egypt could work, its a unique setting and it could be made to fit in with the Assassins Creed storyline very conveniently. However I don't know if it has the gameplay potential, from my knowledge (I may be wrong), Ancient Egyptians cities were low rise mud hut sort of things, without the sophistication of architecture seen in other eras.

Somewhere I would love to see which is not on the list is Spain at the turn of the 20th Century, before the Spanish Civil War. If you have read any of Carlos Ruis Zafon's books, set in Barcelona in this time period, you will know what I mean. There is a great time period where Barcelona is a violent, troubled city, rapidly industrializing, with Industrial Magnates walking the streets with Gangsters and thieves. This is not a well known setting and I'm sure it would never happen, but it would make a great game

freddie_1897
11-29-2011, 03:58 PM
London, London, London, London! Jack the ripper could be a Templar you have to kill!

eagleforlife1
11-29-2011, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by xacimo:
The foggy gloomy air, the tall menacing buildings, historical figures like Jack the Ripper and Sherlock Holmes.

Sherlock Holmes isn't a historical figure. He is Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's fictional creation.

LieutenantJojo
11-29-2011, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by xacimo:
The foggy gloomy air, the tall menacing buildings, historical figures like Jack the Ripper and Sherlock Holmes.

Sherlock Holmes isn't a historical figure. He is Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's fictional creation. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah so? Doesn't mean he couldn't be in an AC game. We could investigate stuff with him, which would give us entirely new gameplay elements.

And Jack The Ripper would be a great idea. It would be like the Templar agents from ACB. So technically, he would be a multiplayer character.

LightRey
11-29-2011, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:
So you want AC3 to set in Florence again? =D
kind of a waste for the big #3
http://i.qkme.me/2j8q.jpg

rain89c
11-29-2011, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by LieutenantJojo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by xacimo:
The foggy gloomy air, the tall menacing buildings, historical figures like Jack the Ripper and Sherlock Holmes.

Sherlock Holmes isn't a historical figure. He is Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's fictional creation. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah so? Doesn't mean he couldn't be in an AC game. We could investigate stuff with him, which would give us entirely new gameplay elements.

And Jack The Ripper would be a great idea. It would be like the Templar agents from ACB. So technically, he would be a multiplayer character. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Last time I mentioned Ninjas to be included in AC3, people like you and your -anti-non-european- gang were saying Ninjas didn't do this and that so it won't work.
Now you're supporting a fictional character and claim that it'll work somehow? I thought you were for the historically accurate. Oh that's right, it has to be historically accurate only for Ninjas and East Asian setting but for anything European it'll always work no matter what. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

kriegerdesgottes
11-29-2011, 07:53 PM
This.

It's the ideal setting.
Just thought I'd throw this in as well. When I think of Assassin's Creed in Victorian London, I always remember this pic:
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8094/londonrooftops.jpg

Absolutely gorgeous. This is making me re-think my preference for French Revolution although I agree with UBISOFT-GAMER that it probably won't be just because Ubisoft likes to stray away from the most hyped places. At this point I'd be cool with England too although I'd rather it not be as recent as the Victorian era. I'd rather it be during the late 18th century and maybe be London and maybe some other bigger English cities or even better you can quick travel to Boston or New York during the same time. That would be freaking amazing if they took time on it and made it huge.

Animuses
11-29-2011, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:
So you want AC3 to set in Florence again? =D
kind of a waste for the big #3
Too bad it looks nothing like Florence, oh but wait.... IT HAS A DOME! I forgot that Florence is exclusive to having buildings with dome roofs.

You generalize Europe like it's one culture, but it's a continent filled with many different types of culture and architecture.

albertwesker22
11-29-2011, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Animuses:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
So you want AC3 to set in Florence again? =D
kind of a waste for the big #3
Too bad it looks nothing like Florence, oh but wait.... IT HAS A DOME! I forgot that Florence is exclusive to having buildings with dome roofs.

You generalize Europe like it's one culture, but it's a continent filled with many different types of culture and architecture. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You really want to argue with such a shameless weeaboo?

rain89c
11-29-2011, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by albertwesker22:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Animuses:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
So you want AC3 to set in Florence again? =D
kind of a waste for the big #3
Too bad it looks nothing like Florence, oh but wait.... IT HAS A DOME! I forgot that Florence is exclusive to having buildings with dome roofs.

You generalize Europe like it's one culture, but it's a continent filled with many different types of culture and architecture. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You really want to argue with such a shameless weeaboo? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ah, the big bad gang appears for more policing.

dxsxhxcx
11-29-2011, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by xacimo:
The foggy gloomy air, the tall menacing buildings, historical figures like Jack the Ripper and Sherlock Holmes.

Sherlock Holmes isn't a historical figure. He is Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's fictional creation. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sofia Sorto was based on a painting...

deskpe
11-29-2011, 09:04 PM
for all we know the setting for ac 3 could be part of the survey to throw people off

It is possible.

Although I am hoping for french revolution myself.

kriegerdesgottes
11-29-2011, 09:07 PM
Sherlock Holmes isn't a historical figure. He is Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's fictional creation.


Sofia Sorto was based on a painting...

That's a little different. Sofia was a nameless figure in a painting who probably did live we just know nothing about who she actually was being that it's just a painting of "a Venician woman" but Sherlock Holmes is a straight out made up character and I think Ubisoft shouldn't take any unnecessary liberties with history that are not absolutely necessary like Ezio's existence or that of his family for example.

Animuses
11-29-2011, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by albertwesker22:
You really want to argue with such a shameless weeaboo?
No, but I do like making my point clear regardless if the person gives two ****s or not and if the person'll probably ignore the point I made.

Agentbarto
11-29-2011, 10:46 PM
I like how this thread started off very amicably and very quickly it went the opposite direction.

If we do visit this era, then I sincerely hope its after Desmond as I think it would be a great place to start off fresh.

LightRey
11-30-2011, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by xacimo:
The foggy gloomy air, the tall menacing buildings, historical figures like Jack the Ripper and Sherlock Holmes.

Sherlock Holmes isn't a historical figure. He is Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's fictional creation. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sofia Sorto was based on a painting... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Krieger's right. Said painting was a portrait, which means that it's very likely someone modeled for it.

freddie_1897
11-30-2011, 01:12 AM
ALL THOSE WHO WANT AC4 IN VICTORIAN ENGLAND SAY I. Also ive got 2 points here:

1. Make London the main setting as it's largest, but make somewhere smaller (like York) another location. You should also add another location which is like San Gimigiano from ac2 and make it a countryside map with a small village in the middle.

2. VERY IMPORTANT make it during the conquest of india, then we could go there. OR it could set up the game after. Saying that whatever we were looking for has been taken to India as I know a
lot of people want a game in India!

See ubisoft London would be an excellent starting point for a new assassin! It was linked to SO many different countries during the British Enpire. Hell it could even send us to south Africa after (which is an INCREDIBLY NICE country).

eagleforlife1
11-30-2011, 02:18 AM
Originally posted by LieutenantJojo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by xacimo:
The foggy gloomy air, the tall menacing buildings, historical figures like Jack the Ripper and Sherlock Holmes.

Sherlock Holmes isn't a historical figure. He is Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's fictional creation. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah so? Doesn't mean he couldn't be in an AC game. We could investigate stuff with him, which would give us entirely new gameplay elements.

And Jack The Ripper would be a great idea. It would be like the Templar agents from ACB. So technically, he would be a multiplayer character. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What the guy I quoted said was 'historical figures like Jack the Ripper and Sherlock Holmes' I was just informing him that Sherlock Holmes isn't a historical figure.

LightRey
11-30-2011, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
What the guy I quoted said was 'historical figures like Jack the Ripper and Sherlock Holmes' I was just informing him that Sherlock Holmes isn't a historical figure.
He has an interesting point though. Marco Polo isn't a historical figure either (though there was actually a Marco Polo at the time, 'twas a relatively common name) and he's a character in the AC universe too.

eagleforlife1
11-30-2011, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
What the guy I quoted said was 'historical figures like Jack the Ripper and Sherlock Holmes' I was just informing him that Sherlock Holmes isn't a historical figure.
He has an interesting point though. Marco Polo isn't a historical figure either (though there was actually a Marco Polo at the time, 'twas a relatively common name) and he's a character in the AC universe too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo

LightRey
11-30-2011, 02:37 AM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
What the guy I quoted said was 'historical figures like Jack the Ripper and Sherlock Holmes' I was just informing him that Sherlock Holmes isn't a historical figure.
He has an interesting point though. Marco Polo isn't a historical figure either (though there was actually a Marco Polo at the time, 'twas a relatively common name) and he's a character in the AC universe too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Lol, silly wikipedia. The stories of Marco Polo's travels all come from one single source, which is a supposed journal, which was actually written by a well known fiction writer at the time.

I watched a NatGeo special on it. Historians these days are generally in agreement that the story is mostly fictional and that there might have been a trader named Marco Polo, but if that were the case it would still be very unlikely he ever even came close to China, especially considering he supposedly travelled by land.

The story features many things such as people with 2 faces and stuff like that, which were common misconceptions about what the rest of the world was like at the time.

LieutenantJojo
11-30-2011, 05:55 AM
Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LieutenantJojo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by xacimo:
The foggy gloomy air, the tall menacing buildings, historical figures like Jack the Ripper and Sherlock Holmes.

Sherlock Holmes isn't a historical figure. He is Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's fictional creation. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah so? Doesn't mean he couldn't be in an AC game. We could investigate stuff with him, which would give us entirely new gameplay elements.

And Jack The Ripper would be a great idea. It would be like the Templar agents from ACB. So technically, he would be a multiplayer character. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Last time I mentioned Ninjas to be included in AC3, people like you and your -anti-non-european- gang were saying Ninjas didn't do this and that so it won't work.
Now you're supporting a fictional character and claim that it'll work somehow? I thought you were for the historically accurate. Oh that's right, it has to be historically accurate only for Ninjas and East Asian setting but for anything European it'll always work no matter what. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Me and my anti-non-european gang? What the... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Please, do enlighten me where I would've said anything like that? I couldn't care less for your ninja's. If Ubisoft wants ninja's then I'm fine with that and I'll still play the game, but I think there are other interesting things that could be explored instead of ninja's. This is all a matter of opinion. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Serrachio
11-30-2011, 06:53 AM
I think everyone hates the 'ninja' because it has been conceptualized by the film and entertainment industry.

When people think ninja, they think "Oh it must be a guy in a black outfit that acts all stealthy and mysterious to the point that it's obvious."

People that practised ninjutsu were a lot more normal than most people take them for.

I found this on Wikipedia:


Depictions of ninja range anywhere between realistic to fantastically exaggerated, both fundamentally and aesthetically. In stylized form, a ninja wears a dark hood, or mask, and can move in a stealthy or secretive manner. Ninja are also often a subject of parody.

If you strip the assumption out of your mind, what's stopping there from being an Asian based Assassin's Creed game?

While I would like to see one in Asia, I also do like other places too, and to me, this survey makes me think up "These locations could be for Modern day characters that aren't Desmond, but could possibly share an ancestor with him which we get to play", so we get to look into the life of many different sects of the Assassin Order while providing a reason towards why Desmond is/was so special (Taking past AC3 into mind).

LightRey
11-30-2011, 07:15 AM
There is still one major problem I have with an AC game in Eastern Asia and that is that if it's located there, there is just no way around of having to use or fight against people who use eastern martial arts, which imo would be really really lame/annoying for an AC game.

Serrachio
11-30-2011, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
There is still one major problem I have with an AC game in Eastern Asia and that is that if it's located there, there is just no way around of having to use or fight against people who use eastern martial arts, which imo would be really really lame/annoying for an AC game.

Well, I'd just think it would be an alternate way of fighting with weapons, including unarmed combat, that would differ from Altair or Ezio's (more developed) fist-fighting and swordplay etc.

It would also allow for more stylistic counters deriving from that culture.

hinhin96329
11-30-2011, 07:37 AM
I am from Hong Kong but I don't want the next AC take place in China or Japan. An assassin outfit with Chinese or Japanese style is terrible. Also, I know exactly how Cantonese, Japanese and Mandarin sound like, and an assassin with assassin outfit with Chinese or Japanese style and speak Cantonese, Japanese or Mandarin doesn't seem to be badass.

(sorry for my poor English)

rain89c
11-30-2011, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by LieutenantJojo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LieutenantJojo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by xacimo:
The foggy gloomy air, the tall menacing buildings, historical figures like Jack the Ripper and Sherlock Holmes.

Sherlock Holmes isn't a historical figure. He is Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's fictional creation. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah so? Doesn't mean he couldn't be in an AC game. We could investigate stuff with him, which would give us entirely new gameplay elements.

And Jack The Ripper would be a great idea. It would be like the Templar agents from ACB. So technically, he would be a multiplayer character. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Last time I mentioned Ninjas to be included in AC3, people like you and your -anti-non-european- gang were saying Ninjas didn't do this and that so it won't work.
Now you're supporting a fictional character and claim that it'll work somehow? I thought you were for the historically accurate. Oh that's right, it has to be historically accurate only for Ninjas and East Asian setting but for anything European it'll always work no matter what. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Me and my anti-non-european gang? What the... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Please, do enlighten me where I would've said anything like that? I couldn't care less for your ninja's. If Ubisoft wants ninja's then I'm fine with that and I'll still play the game, but I think there are other interesting things that could be explored instead of ninja's. This is all a matter of opinion. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Whoops I mistakened you for this other guy kriegerdesgotte. You two have the same profile pic. And he had the history of being extremely anti-non-euro.
My apologizes.

rain89c
11-30-2011, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by hinhin96329:
I am from Hong Kong but I don't want the next AC take place in China or Japan. An assassin outfit with Chinese or Japanese style is terrible. Also, I know exactly how Cantonese, Japanese and Mandarin sound like, and an assassin with assassin outfit with Chinese or Japanese style and speak Cantonese, Japanese or Mandarin doesn't seem to be badass.

(sorry for my poor English)
Geez, I wonder why they even featured Shao Jun since Asians are such an embarrassment..

SwiftAura2011
11-30-2011, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SwiftAura2011:
I say that whatever location they choose, there HAS TO BE some historical reference to the existence of both Templars and Assassins and since the Templars are closely linked to Christianity, how could they even come close to Asian countries?
Neither Japan nor China have ever (to my knowledge) ever embraced the 'Christian' faith/belief system.

The Knights Templar are just one public face of the "Templar" organization in the AC story. Subject 16 described them as "the Organization" when talking about an earlier version of the Templars in one of AC2's Truth puzzles, and the Encyclopedia makes it clear that the Knights Templar under the Church were just the first time the Order had a public face. The red cross is the Mark of Cain and is their sign, but the link to Christianity does not have to stay.

The current version of them at Abstergo has nothing to do with the Church or Christianity. The link to the Church seems to have been for convenience, since it was the most powerful organization at the time of the Crusades and into the Renaissance. Once the world changed and Corporations became the organizations with all the power, the Templars insinuated themselves into that world instead. The Templars (and Assassins) can be linked to any faction in history and don't have to be linked to Christianity. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Alrighty then...whatever you say. I still think (as do many others) that setting any future Assassins Creed series in Feudal Japan, China or the American Revolution is a crap idea. Nuff said.

SwiftAura2011
11-30-2011, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by xacimo:
I really hope they stay away from America. Assassin's creed is all about ancient cities rich with history, culture and architecture. The environments need to be dense cities with rooftops to leap between, alleyways to hide in, and landmarks to give a sense of place. European cities fit this perfectly.

Colonial America is an awful setting for Assassins Creed. Muddy backwater frontier towns are not what the series is all about.

My pick would be Victorian England. London is a perfect setting for an Assassins Creed game. It is a famous and recognizable city, it is steeped in history and culture, and it has a fantastic atmosphere to it. The foggy gloomy air, the tall menacing buildings, historical figures like Jack the Ripper and Sherlock Holmes.

Russia would be another great setting. Its unique, its something which hasn't been done before, and Russia has some great cities with amazing Architecture (St Basils Cathedral, the Kremlin). I think the Russian Revolution setting might not work though, it is too modern and the style of warfare is too gun-focused.

Feudal Japan is a great fit for the series in terms of gameplay. It also has a setting rich in culture and tradition. The problem is that it is too cliched, Ninja games have been over exploited, and it has no originality.

The series has already been to Rome, so even though an ancient Roman setting could work well, it seems unlikely. If they were going to do Ancient Rome they should have integrated it into Brotherhood, which would have made an amazing game.

Ancient Egypt could work, its a unique setting and it could be made to fit in with the Assassins Creed storyline very conveniently. However I don't know if it has the gameplay potential, from my knowledge (I may be wrong), Ancient Egyptians cities were low rise mud hut sort of things, without the sophistication of architecture seen in other eras.

Somewhere I would love to see which is not on the list is Spain at the turn of the 20th Century, before the Spanish Civil War. If you have read any of Carlos Ruis Zafon's books, set in Barcelona in this time period, you will know what I mean. There is a great time period where Barcelona is a violent, troubled city, rapidly industrializing, with Industrial Magnates walking the streets with Gangsters and thieves. This is not a well known setting and I'm sure it would never happen, but it would make a great game

I like this post... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

SwiftAura2011
11-30-2011, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
There is still one major problem I have with an AC game in Eastern Asia and that is that if it's located there, there is just no way around of having to use or fight against people who use eastern martial arts, which imo would be really really lame/annoying for an AC game.

I like this too.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

exellano626
11-30-2011, 10:38 AM
Victorian England. Some of the Erudito-released memories for PL were about Victorian London and the Hermetic Society, that would be rally interesting to explore further, there were also other secret societies which could be Templar-inclined like the Freemasons!

luckyto
11-30-2011, 10:42 AM
I'm American and the last thing I want is something in America or England. I want some place more foreign. After seeing Embers, I absolutely want one in China.

kriegerdesgottes
11-30-2011, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by luckyto:
I'm American and the last thing I want is something in America or England. I want some place more foreign. After seeing Embers, I absolutely want one in China.

England is still pretty foreign and I, as an American, agree with you except for the China part but I could learn to deal with America as long as it was at least 250 years ago and not some cowboy game or industrial revolution era. Actually I'd prefer the same era for England as well.

Grandmaster_Z
11-30-2011, 10:52 AM
if they ever do an asian one, it should be a spin off story of a different bloodline, not desmonds.

Xstantin
11-30-2011, 11:03 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hinhin96329:
An assassin outfit with Chinese or Japanese style is terrible.[QUOTE]

It depends how you imagine it. One might believe a Turkish Assassin would look awful - or think about a Russian one, with a fur hat and felt boots, terrible for free-running... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif No matter what location they choose, I have hope in Ubi's art direction.

lukaszep
11-30-2011, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by freddie_1897:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RussellSparrow:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
Y'know, looking at those pics I think Victorian England would indeed be a pretty good choice.

This, coincidentally is by Raphel Lacoste, the AC art director. But it's not for AC.

It's the ideal setting.Just thought I'd throw this in as well. When I think of Assassin's Creed in Victorian London, I always remember this pic:
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8094/londonrooftops.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE> that's an amazing pic! Where did you get it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

luckyto
11-30-2011, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by luckyto:
I'm American and the last thing I want is something in America or England. I want some place more foreign. After seeing Embers, I absolutely want one in China.

England is still pretty foreign and I, as an American, agree with you except for the China part but I could learn to deal with America as long as it was at least 250 years ago and not some cowboy game or industrial revolution era. Actually I'd prefer the same era for England as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Victorian England would be better than Russia, I admit. That picture does spark the imagination. Still, I like swordplay - and I can think of no place better than Asia for it. And the outfits in Embers looked really sweet.

Maybe not even Desmond's DNA, but Eve's; whoever that is.

n00bfi_97
11-30-2011, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by albertwesker22:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Animuses:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rain89c:
So you want AC3 to set in Florence again? =D
kind of a waste for the big #3
Too bad it looks nothing like Florence, oh but wait.... IT HAS A DOME! I forgot that Florence is exclusive to having buildings with dome roofs.

You generalize Europe like it's one culture, but it's a continent filled with many different types of culture and architecture. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't worry. Because he is (presumably and hopefully) American, he thinks that entire continents share the same culture. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

kriegerdesgottes
11-30-2011, 01:35 PM
Whoops I mistakened you for this other guy kriegerdesgotte. You two have the same profile pic. And he had the history of being extremely anti-non-euro.
My apologizes.

First of all, nice to see you again too Rain, and secondly I thought putting an AC game in Constantinople was genius. I also loved every single setting from the first game none of which are european. I just feel that at this point in the franchise, I would rather not have an Asian setting.

albertwesker22
11-30-2011, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
Whoops I mistakened you for this other guy kriegerdesgotte. You two have the same profile pic. And he had the history of being extremely anti-non-euro.
My apologizes.

First of all, nice to see you again too Rain, and secondly I thought putting an AC game in Constantinople was genius. I also loved every single setting from the first game none of which are european. I just feel that at this point in the franchise, I would rather not have an Asian setting. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In Rain's little world, anywhere that isn't east Asia is in Europe.

freddie_1897
11-30-2011, 03:43 PM
Victorian England first, but am I the only one who thinks ancient Rome could be quite fun, you know, comparing it to acb, seeing all the ruins as proper buildings, an intact, new colloseum. As I said before; Victorian england (preferably London) first but I hope they go back to Rome in the future.

uccisopascia
11-30-2011, 04:10 PM
The violent conflicts of the Imperial Dynasties in Medieval China
The advent of the mighty British Empire during Victorian England
The culmination of the Pharaoh Reign in Ancient Egypt
The invasion of the Americas by the Spanish Conquistadors
The confrontation between British colonists and native Americans during The American Revolution
The overthrow of the Tsar Empire by the Communists during the Russian Revolution
The Warlord Battles in Feudal Japan
The rise of Cesar’s Empire in Ancient Rome

i think russian revolution will set perfectly after it has been narrated wisely inside the clusters especially in brotherhood. but advent of the british empire or american revolution can also fit very well in the ac plot. in addition the next story must take in place/ in a time period which will be after 1400's or 1500's. to turn back to egypt or medieval china wont be that good. so here comes my list:
1- Russian Revolution
2- American Revolution
3- Advent of the British Empire

hmm no need to list more http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ProdiGurl
11-30-2011, 04:12 PM
The advent of the mighty British Empire during Victorian England

I'm so hoping they don't do Asia anytime soon

DavisP92
11-30-2011, 08:31 PM
I would love to see AC in egypt, the setting would be amazing. Although, I don't think it'll work for the view points. China would be cool for the martial arts, imo (but Ubisoft wouldn't do that right). Anything except Russia and America, i feel like those are used a lot. maybe not Russia as much, but I'd rather like to see a place i wouldn't ever see anywhere else except in AC. That's one of the things that makes AC so great. But it has to have CO-OP.

rain89c
11-30-2011, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Serrachio:
I think everyone hates the 'ninja' because it has been conceptualized by the film and entertainment industry.

When people think ninja, they think "Oh it must be a guy in a black outfit that acts all stealthy and mysterious to the point that it's obvious." People that practised ninjutsu were a lot more normal than most people take them for. I found this on Wikipedia: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Depictions of ninja range anywhere between realistic to fantastically exaggerated, both fundamentally and aesthetically. In stylized form, a ninja wears a dark hood, or mask, and can move in a stealthy or secretive manner. Ninja are also often a subject of parody. [/B]

If you strip the assumption out of your mind, what's stopping there from being an Asian based Assassin's Creed game?

While I would like to see one in Asia, I also do like other places too, and to me, this survey makes me think up "These locations could be for Modern day characters that aren't Desmond, but could possibly share an ancestor with him which we get to play", so we get to look into the life of many different sects of the Assassin Order while providing a reason towards why Desmond is/was so special (Taking past AC3 into mind). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Quoted for the truth.

Only thing I'd like to add on is that, it is only, and I amplify the ONLY in this forum you'll see hate about Ninjas/Japan. Look at any other sources Ubi conducts their surveys in or youtube, blog posts, facebook polls, you'll see Ninjas and Feudal Japan ranks almost always at #1 or 2.
That's because there is an -Anti-Non-European- gang in this forum that continues to police this forum defending the AC franchise as if it belongs in Europe, because they either claim Desmond is white or italian (which most of these ignorant people always seem to leave out the ARABIAN part either intentionally or not), or Japan/Ninja doesnt fit AC(they'll use some silly bullcrap excuse like the rooftop arent suitable for free running or some stupid crap like that, zZ).

DavisP92
11-30-2011, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by ProdiGurl:
I'm so hoping they don't do Asia anytime soon

I really don't understand why people hate the idea of AC in Asia

destr0lockk
12-01-2011, 12:00 AM
An AC game in Asia would be a nice change of location. I really want to visit Medieval China because of all the interesting things that was going on there like alchemists looking for immortality. Besides there aren't any ninjas in China, they're just in Japan.

LightRey
12-01-2011, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by rain89c:
Quoted for the truth.

Only thing I'd like to add on is that, it is only, and I amplify the ONLY in this forum you'll see hate about Ninjas/Japan. Look at any other sources Ubi conducts their surveys in or youtube, blog posts, facebook polls, you'll see Ninjas and Feudal Japan ranks almost always at #1 or 2.
That's because there is an -Anti-Non-European- gang in this forum that continues to police this forum defending the AC franchise as if it belongs in Europe, because they either claim Desmond is white or italian (which most of these ignorant people always seem to leave out the ARABIAN part either intentionally or not), or Japan/Ninja doesnt fit AC(they'll use some silly bullcrap excuse like the rooftop arent suitable for free running or some stupid crap like that, zZ).
If you keep accusing us of being racist just because most of us have a common opinion on (apparently only) this forum that an Asian setting wouldn't fit well, then you're not getting anymore popular here. It's also starting to border on spam and harassment so either get back on topic or leave.

Xstantin
12-01-2011, 10:39 AM
I couldn't care less if they set it in Asian country, but then again there was this image done awhile ago and it's from one of the AC concept artists.

http://www.dechambo.com/Decham...rk/AC2_page_1.html#5 (http://www.dechambo.com/Dechambo_Artwork/AC2_page_1.html#5)

notafanboy
12-01-2011, 10:58 AM
french revolutuon all the way.

DavisP92
12-01-2011, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
Quoted for the truth.

Only thing I'd like to add on is that, it is only, and I amplify the ONLY in this forum you'll see hate about Ninjas/Japan. Look at any other sources Ubi conducts their surveys in or youtube, blog posts, facebook polls, you'll see Ninjas and Feudal Japan ranks almost always at #1 or 2.
That's because there is an -Anti-Non-European- gang in this forum that continues to police this forum defending the AC franchise as if it belongs in Europe, because they either claim Desmond is white or italian (which most of these ignorant people always seem to leave out the ARABIAN part either intentionally or not), or Japan/Ninja doesnt fit AC(they'll use some silly bullcrap excuse like the rooftop arent suitable for free running or some stupid crap like that, zZ).
If you keep accusing us of being racist just because most of us have a common opinion on (apparently only) this forum that an Asian setting wouldn't fit well, then you're not getting anymore popular here. It's also starting to border on spam and harassment so either get back on topic or leave. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

would someone explain to me why an Asian setting wouldn't work for the game

kriegerdesgottes
12-01-2011, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Pdavis3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
Quoted for the truth.

Only thing I'd like to add on is that, it is only, and I amplify the ONLY in this forum you'll see hate about Ninjas/Japan. Look at any other sources Ubi conducts their surveys in or youtube, blog posts, facebook polls, you'll see Ninjas and Feudal Japan ranks almost always at #1 or 2.
That's because there is an -Anti-Non-European- gang in this forum that continues to police this forum defending the AC franchise as if it belongs in Europe, because they either claim Desmond is white or italian (which most of these ignorant people always seem to leave out the ARABIAN part either intentionally or not), or Japan/Ninja doesnt fit AC(they'll use some silly bullcrap excuse like the rooftop arent suitable for free running or some stupid crap like that, zZ).
If you keep accusing us of being racist just because most of us have a common opinion on (apparently only) this forum that an Asian setting wouldn't fit well, then you're not getting anymore popular here. It's also starting to border on spam and harassment so either get back on topic or leave. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

would someone explain to me why an Asian setting wouldn't work for the game </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We've had this conversations many times but if you go to the AC3 and beyond thread and I think the conversation started at around page 50 or so and goes on and on and on about just that.

tarrero
12-01-2011, 12:41 PM
Here´s my opinion about this.

I consider that "ninjas" Edo Japan and even China, would fit with the mechanics of game, I mean, being Stealth, Freerunning and all that stuff.

BUT, my main problem is how UNORIGINAL that setting is, you can count literally HUNDREDS of video games, movies, mangas and animes related, there´s even a wikipedia entry about that, which is not necessary bad, it is just that I prefer new things.

Therefore I say NO, I am European, but for that reason I totally oppose WWII and I know most americans would go against Wild West, so much BEEN THERE, DONE THAT.

DavisP92
12-01-2011, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by tarrero:
Here´s my opinion about this.

I consider that "ninjas" Edo Japan and even China, would fit with the mechanics of game, I mean, being Stealth, Freerunning and all that stuff.

BUT, my main problem is how UNORIGINAL that setting is, you can count literally HUNDREDS of video games, movies, mangas and animes related, there´s even a wikipedia entry about that, which is not necessary bad, it is just that I prefer new things.

Therefore I say NO, I am European, but for that reason I totally oppose WWII and I know most americans would go against Wild West, so much BEEN THERE, DONE THAT.

Well that point seems rational, AC is a series that takes it's gamers to different locations that other games don't really do. But seeing how they're gonna do the Civil War sooner or later. I would rather play 3 AC games all in Asia rather then America.

luckyto
12-01-2011, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Pdavis3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ProdiGurl:
I'm so hoping they don't do Asia anytime soon

I really don't understand why people hate the idea of AC in Asia </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

At one time, I would have been radically opposed to the idea. But I've really grown to the idea and Embers cemented it for me. Of course, I love swordplay - and I could care less for guns, crossbows or other ranged weapons --- so to me, China's culture fits this perfectly.

rain89c
12-01-2011, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pdavis3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
Quoted for the truth.

Only thing I'd like to add on is that, it is only, and I amplify the ONLY in this forum you'll see hate about Ninjas/Japan. Look at any other sources Ubi conducts their surveys in or youtube, blog posts, facebook polls, you'll see Ninjas and Feudal Japan ranks almost always at #1 or 2.
That's because there is an -Anti-Non-European- gang in this forum that continues to police this forum defending the AC franchise as if it belongs in Europe, because they either claim Desmond is white or italian (which most of these ignorant people always seem to leave out the ARABIAN part either intentionally or not), or Japan/Ninja doesnt fit AC(they'll use some silly bullcrap excuse like the rooftop arent suitable for free running or some stupid crap like that, zZ).
If you keep accusing us of being racist just because most of us have a common opinion on (apparently only) this forum that an Asian setting wouldn't fit well, then you're not getting anymore popular here. It's also starting to border on spam and harassment so either get back on topic or leave. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

would someone explain to me why an Asian setting wouldn't work for the game </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We've had this conversations many times but if you go to the AC3 and beyond thread and I think the conversation started at around page 50 or so and goes on and on and on about just that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
only reasons you and your anti-non-euro gang has been saying is that
Asia doesnt work
because:
1) Desmond is white, therefore Asia setting is not allowed
2) Their rooftops aren't suitable for
running
3) Cause its gonna turn into a ninja game
4) Ninjas imitate supernatural powers
5) Ninjas aren't assassins
6) Asia has no ties to Christianity
7) and pretty much the most popular reason in this forum is that "East Asia doesnt work because it wouldn't feel right" (if that even is a reason)

I can't even read your reasons without not taking you guys seriously., how are those even valid reasons?
You speak as if the game developers are a bunch of close minded employees like you and your gang.

luckyto
12-01-2011, 03:21 PM
At the end of the day, if Ubisoft hasn't ALREADY decided (months and months ago) where the next AC game will take place; then we are all in trouble.

albertwesker22
12-01-2011, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pdavis3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
Quoted for the truth.

Only thing I'd like to add on is that, it is only, and I amplify the ONLY in this forum you'll see hate about Ninjas/Japan. Look at any other sources Ubi conducts their surveys in or youtube, blog posts, facebook polls, you'll see Ninjas and Feudal Japan ranks almost always at #1 or 2.
That's because there is an -Anti-Non-European- gang in this forum that continues to police this forum defending the AC franchise as if it belongs in Europe, because they either claim Desmond is white or italian (which most of these ignorant people always seem to leave out the ARABIAN part either intentionally or not), or Japan/Ninja doesnt fit AC(they'll use some silly bullcrap excuse like the rooftop arent suitable for free running or some stupid crap like that, zZ).
If you keep accusing us of being racist just because most of us have a common opinion on (apparently only) this forum that an Asian setting wouldn't fit well, then you're not getting anymore popular here. It's also starting to border on spam and harassment so either get back on topic or leave. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

would someone explain to me why an Asian setting wouldn't work for the game </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We've had this conversations many times but if you go to the AC3 and beyond thread and I think the conversation started at around page 50 or so and goes on and on and on about just that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
only reasons you and your anti-non-euro gang has been saying is that
Asia doesnt work
because:
1) Desmond is white
2) their rooftops aren't suitable for
running
3) cause its gonna turn into a ninja game
4) Ninjas imitate supernatural powers
5) Ninjas aren't assassins

I can't even read your reasons without not taking you guys seriously., how are those even valid reasons? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pot, kettle, black? Once again "Anti-non Euro" You are just trolling now. Name some names for this Anti-non Euro gang please. How is not wanting Japan anti-non euro?

You are talking about East Asia, which i'm guessing you think is all of Asia right? You are a weeaboo and you are not even subtle about it.

I have listed many places I would like to see AC go to. I have suggested India, Egypt and even 19th century China as have others who you label "anti-non euro"

You have no argument and play the victim anytime someone goes against the idea of feudal Japan, which whether you like it or not is a Cliché.

joaomuas
12-01-2011, 03:29 PM
Medieval China and Victorian England would be the best settings for fresh mechanics, free-running, stealth, creating rich cities and historical facts. Would love to see Medieval Europe stuff though, but it may not be that good for adding new gameplay elements. Ancient Egypt MIGHT work too, but Ubisoft would have to do a really good job. America, both the revolution and its discovery would work too, but the Spanish conquistadors period is during the Renaissance so it wouldn't be as unique. Feudal Japan would be awesome but Medieval China has more historical happenings. Both Ancient Rome and the Russian Revolution would be awesome (I'd love Ancient Rome!) but Rome and the Tsar period have already been done. Also counting on the French Revolution though! And on Modern Day New York...

rain89c
12-01-2011, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by albertwesker22:
Pot, kettle, black? Once again "Anti-non Euro" You are just trolling now. Name some names for this Anti-non Euro gang please. How is not wanting Japan anti-non euro?

You are talking about East Asia, which i'm guessing you think is all of Asia right? You are a weeaboo and you are not even subtle about it.

I have listed many places I would like to see AC go to. I have suggested India, Egypt and even 19th century China as have others who you label "anti-non euro"

You have no argument and play the victim anytime someone goes against the idea of feudal Japan, which whether you like it or not is a Cliché.
No need to name names to make ya'll feel special, you should have the consciousness as to who I refer to via their posts.
If you have suggested a setting in Asia and haven't made subtle racist remarks, then good, that means I am not referring to you, there is no reason for you to get fired up. Unless of course, you are revealing yourself subconsciously that you are one of the ones I am referring to.

Why are you asking me for argument for wanting a setting in a particular region? It is vice versa, the people who are against stepping out of European are the ones who needs an argument.

And lastly, I will ignore all your personal attacks on me because I will just assume you are ignorant about me.

freddie_1897
12-01-2011, 04:03 PM
First off, I'm not anti anything, I don't care where it's set as long as they make it work.
But the person above me dosnt seem to have heard of this really cool thing known as 'opinion', I don't know if you've heard about it but it's basically when someone has their own personal views on something.
Theirs this other new invention which is really popular at the moment and it's called 'human rights', and one of those rights is something called 'freedom of speech', which basically let's you share your 'opinion' without being condemned.
The person above me is condemning someone elses opinion, denying them the right to freedom of speech, and, in doing so 'discarding' his human rights.

rain89c
12-01-2011, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by freddie_1897:
First off, I'm not anti anything, I don't care where it's set as long as they make it work.
But the person above me dosnt seem to have heard of this really cool thing known as 'opinion', I don't know if you've heard about it but it's basically when someone has their own personal views on something.
Theirs this other new invention which is really popular at the moment and it's called 'human rights', and one of those rights is something called 'freedom of speech', which basically let's you share your 'opinion' without being condemned.
The person above me is condemning someone elses opinion, denying them the right to freedom of speech, and, in doing so 'discarding' his human rights.
Im fine as to opinions, but when opinions for a particular region contains subtle racist remarks then it isn't a valid reason, nor should those opinions be taken seriously, especially if those opinions are taken into considerations to develop AC3.

DavisP92
12-01-2011, 04:41 PM
I would love to see AC in Egypt, China, and London. Even Japan would be cool to see 3 factions, ninjas, samurai and Assassins fighting. I'm all for any place except America. And to rain89c, i don't think a lot of the ppl here are saying it's cuz Desmond is white. Cuz then they'd just be stupid, i think they say it won't be good cuz they're used to seeing the japan setting, but i say it'll be nice if they do it right. If u think some ppl are being racist, then it won't really matter where they want AC to be. cuz sooner or later it will be in Japan, China, Egypt, London, Russia and America. That AC3 poll isn't only for AC3 it's for the rest (assuming everyone else knows this too).

And to luckyto, glad to hear that ur not against Asia as a setting. I think they could do something interesting there. but as for the swordplay u mentioned, I don't think Ubisoft will ever do anything to make the swordplay fun like it looked in embers. imo, i think all combat in AC should be like embers. And i'm sorry to say it again butCO-OP is a must now

rain89c
12-01-2011, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by Pdavis3:
I would love to see AC in Egypt, China, and London. Even Japan would be cool to see 3 factions, ninjas, samurai and Assassins fighting. I'm all for any place except America. And to rain89c, i don't think a lot of the ppl here are saying it's cuz Desmond is white . Cuz then they'd just be stupid, i think they say it won't be good cuz they're used to seeing the japan setting, but i say it'll be nice if they do it right. If u think some ppl are being racist, then it won't really matter where they want AC to be. cuz sooner or later it will be in Japan, China, Egypt, London, Russia and America. That AC3 poll isn't only for AC3 it's for the rest (assuming everyone else knows this too).

And to luckyto, glad to hear that ur not against Asia as a setting. I think they could do something interesting there. but as for the swordplay u mentioned, I don't think Ubisoft will ever do anything to make the swordplay fun like it looked in embers. imo, i think all combat in AC should be like embers. And i'm sorry to say it again butCO-OP is a must now
I know you're trying to assure me there are no racism involved here, but I'm not playing when I say I know there's a group of racist here.
Here is just one of these people I am referring to, I won't even put anymore names to make them feel special...
http://s8.postimage.org/lnqss17i9/racistwhiteperson.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/lnqss17i9/)
<IMG class="inline_image" SRC="http://s8.postimage.org/lnqss17i9/racistwhiteperson.jpg"> (http://postimage.org/image/lnqss17i9/) http://postimage.org/image/lnqss17i9/e3aa58ba/

Trust me bro, I've been on the AC3 suggestion threads long enough to witness many racist remarks against many non-european aesthetics/regions/etc.

tarrero
12-01-2011, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:

1) Desmond is white, therefore Asia setting is not allowed
2) Their rooftops aren't suitable for
running
3) Cause its gonna turn into a ninja game
4) Ninjas imitate supernatural powers
5) Ninjas aren't assassins
6) Asia has no ties to Christianity
7) and pretty much the most popular reason in this forum is that "East Asia doesnt work because it wouldn't feel right" (if that even is a reason)


The most popular is:

It has been done HUNDREDS of times, dude there´s even a wikipedia entrance about movies, animes, mangas, video games related to ninjas.....

Stop with the racism stuff, that itself is racist....

rain89c
12-01-2011, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by tarrero:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:

1) Desmond is white, therefore Asia setting is not allowed
2) Their rooftops aren't suitable for
running
3) Cause its gonna turn into a ninja game
4) Ninjas imitate supernatural powers
5) Ninjas aren't assassins
6) Asia has no ties to Christianity
7) and pretty much the most popular reason in this forum is that "East Asia doesnt work because it wouldn't feel right" (if that even is a reason)


The most popular is:

It has been done HUNDREDS of times, dude there´s even a wikipedia entrance about movies, animes, mangas, video games related to ninjas.....

Stop with the racism stuff, that itself is racist.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You fail to understand that those games are not realistically done in a free roaming simulation-like way such as AC.

kriegerdesgottes
12-01-2011, 05:09 PM
I know you're trying to assure me there are no racism involved here, but I'm not playing when I say I know there's a group of racist here.
Here is just one of these people I am referring to, I won't even put anymore names to make them feel special...
http://s8.postimage.org/lnqss17i9/racistwhiteperson.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/lnqss17i9/)
<IMG class="inline_image" SRC="http://s8.postimage.org/lnqss17i9/racistwhiteperson.jpg"> (http://postimage.org/image/lnqss17i9/) http://postimage.org/image/lnqss17i9/e3aa58ba/

Trust me bro, I've been on the AC3 suggestion threads long enough to witness many racist remarks against many non-european aesthetics/regions/etc.

lol, Rain you are just incredible. I must have really gotten to you at some point huh? I wish soo much to take part in name calling and so forth as you do. But I assure you I am no racist. I study history and that includes the history of all places especially Asian cultures which I find fascinating. You continue to see what you want to see no matter how many times you are proven wrong. You refuse to leave no matter how many people are annoyed with you on here including myself. So I will try to simplify this once again for you since I know how difficult it is for you to grasp logic. Desmond's ancestry has so far given us NO hint towards Asian ancestry. I will admit that does not rule out the possibility I am simply saying that as a white American who so far has had Italian and Arabic ancestry, the probability is low for him to have Asian ancestry and is one of many reasons to not have an Asian ancestry at this point. I am sick and tired of you referring to me as a racist even though I have tried to avoid your ******ed conversations. I have tried to avoid you all together because you are in fact a weeaboo and a super annoying one who does not post almost at all unless someone utters the word Asian on here. Otherwise you almost never post. I would be ok with an AC game in the Orient with a different descendent other than Desmond although I too feel that Japan is way overused in games regardless if it was used to a realistic fashion which I know is your only defense to that argument which is also illogical because it's not like every ninja game is total b.s. and has no historical or realistic grounds at all.

Long story short. Stop pulling me into your idiotic arguments or I will report you.

tarrero
12-01-2011, 05:14 PM
What has made AC franchise this succesful is the setting, and Japan and its ninjas, are overused.

I would take XVII century India, The Mogol Empire (the ones who build Taj Mahal) 390293029302 times over Ninjas!

Why?

Because it is been never done before, pretty much like the previous AC games.....

Grazel69
12-01-2011, 06:22 PM
Egypt looking like only viable fun option
either that or ninja but alot of people are against that...

Lurker178
12-01-2011, 06:37 PM
The developers haven't decided yet? Even with all the time to prepare? I guess it doesn't matter as long as they end the modern day storyline, and then Ubisoft can go back to making AC games without the 1 year deadline.

Anywho, I think the next game should take place in either the American Revolution or the Russian Revolution. Even though Ubisoft will have to focus on another Assassin, I hope they can dedicate more time to Desmond and hopefully end his story arc or at least advance it by having him unlock the sixth sense or finding "Eve" or whatever nonsensical task he's suppose to accomplish.

rileypoole1234
12-01-2011, 07:07 PM
Rain you have a problem with krieger? He did say he has done quite a bit of geneology, and he has never seen Asian come up when doing trees. I as well highly doubt that Desmond would have an Asian ancestor, due to the fact that he is a white American. That's not racist. Not at all really. I for one don't know of any white people with Asian ancestors. That still isn't racist. I also highly doubt krieger is racist. I don't know what you're on about.

DavisP92
12-01-2011, 07:47 PM
Actually Desmond isn't white really, he's mix. Rain has a point with the fact that ppl keep calling Desmond white when he's not completely. But i'm not sure about the racist thing, i don't think anyone here is racist (that i've seen). it's odd how riley is saying he's only white when he's arabain too. And if u think about it Desmond is part black too. And i have proof :P

Xstantin
12-01-2011, 07:53 PM
Technically, they could make a game set in Japan/China without using the ancestry as a key point. People travel afterall, Ezio ended up in Constantinople and I believe Sofia was born there.

DavisP92
12-01-2011, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by KEVT2011:
Technically, they could make a game set in Japan/China without using the ancestry as a key point. People travel afterall, Ezio ended up in Constantinople and I believe Sofia was born there.

no sofia was from venice, or florence. I'm pretty sure it's Venice. And the main character can still be asian no matter what anyone says. If u look at it, ppl travel like u say and can have children with ppl native of the land. that is why Desmond is part black too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Xstantin
12-01-2011, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by Pdavis3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KEVT2011:
Technically, they could make a game set in Japan/China without using the ancestry as a key point. People travel afterall, Ezio ended up in Constantinople and I believe Sofia was born there.

no sofia was from venice, or florence. I'm pretty sure it's Venice. And the main character can still be asian no matter what anyone says. If u look at it, ppl travel like u say and can have children with ppl native of the land. that is why Desmond is part black too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope, she was born there. Just checked. She was forced to leave to Venice during the conflict with the Ottomans.

Animuses
12-01-2011, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Pdavis3:
no sofia was from venice, or florence. I'm pretty sure it's Venice. And the main character can still be asian no matter what anyone says. If u look at it, ppl travel like u say and can have children with ppl native of the land. that is why Desmond is part black too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Part black? Did you just pull that out of your ***?

kriegerdesgottes
12-01-2011, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Pdavis3:
And if u think about it Desmond is part black too. And i have proof :P

Which is?

DavisP92
12-01-2011, 08:19 PM
@ Kevt, oh well that's cool. thanks for letting me know.

@ Animuses and krieg, LOL. No i didn't, in ACR there is a recruite mission where you save the mentor in Egypt who is a bloodline descendent of Altair. bam, there is the proof http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

kriegerdesgottes
12-01-2011, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Pdavis3:
@ Kevt, oh well that's cool. thanks for letting me know.

@ Animuses and krieg, LOL. No i didn't, in ACR there is a recruite mission where you save the mentor in Egypt who is a bloodline descendent of Altair. bam, there is the proof http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Egyptians aren't black usually first of all. They are Arabic. Secondly Altair's entire family left Israel/Syria to go to Egypt so there is no hint of anyone being black.

rileypoole1234
12-01-2011, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pdavis3:
And if u think about it Desmond is part black too. And i have proof :P

Which is? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, please share with us http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

DavisP92
12-01-2011, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pdavis3:
@ Kevt, oh well that's cool. thanks for letting me know.

@ Animuses and krieg, LOL. No i didn't, in ACR there is a recruite mission where you save the mentor in Egypt who is a bloodline descendent of Altair. bam, there is the proof http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Egyptians aren't black usually first of all. They are Arabic. Secondly Altair's entire family left Israel/Syria to go to Egypt so there is no hint of anyone being black. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

First of all, Arabic is NOT a nationality, it's a language. I speak arabic, and in today's society when one say's black person they refer to the color of their skin. meaning yea he's part black because his ancestor has dark skin. And you didn't even think your second point through, his entire family moved to egypt but the descendend is 200 years later in Ezio's time. His name is Iskender.

Ohh and by the way when you say usually you aren't proving me wrong ur just saying it could be possible, proving me right.

kriegerdesgottes
12-01-2011, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by Pdavis3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pdavis3:
@ Kevt, oh well that's cool. thanks for letting me know.

@ Animuses and krieg, LOL. No i didn't, in ACR there is a recruite mission where you save the mentor in Egypt who is a bloodline descendent of Altair. bam, there is the proof http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Egyptians aren't black usually first of all. They are Arabic. Secondly Altair's entire family left Israel/Syria to go to Egypt so there is no hint of anyone being black. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

First of all, Arabic is NOT a nationality, it's a language. I speak arabic, and in today's society when one say's black person they refer to the color of their skin. meaning yea he's part black because his ancestor has dark skin. And his entire family comment ur talking about has nothing to do with 200 years later in Ezio's time. His name is Iskender.

Ohh and by the way when you say usually you aren't proving me wrong ur just saying it could be possible, proving me right. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ok well how about I use the term middle eastern which is still not black. Let me put it this way instead since you have a point with the Arabic comment. Egyptians are not black. Also I didn't know that stuff about Iskender. That is interesting. I realize an Egyptian person can be black of course especially considering Egypt is in Africa. But Egyptians are not primarily black. EDIT: oh and just because a person has dark skin does not make them black. If that's the case then most mexicans would considered black which is a ridiculous concept. black is still black.

rain89c
12-01-2011, 08:41 PM
Saying what race Desmond is, to prevent any settings besides europe from being is used is stupid.
If UBI wants to use Asia/Africa, theyll make it work.
Nobody knew Desmond had an Italian ancestor before AC2 was debuted.
there are many variables here, who knew what happened to Ezio's sister? Ezio's daughters' son's son? Altair's hidden brother /sister?? Altair's son's son's daughter?
So stop speaking as if you were part of the dev team and know the entire family tree.

and to people who doubt kriegerdesgotte is racist. just look at his post history and tell me you still think he is not a racist.
connect the context of what he posts to his ideas, you'll see what i mean.

DavisP92
12-01-2011, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pdavis3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pdavis3:
@ Kevt, oh well that's cool. thanks for letting me know.

@ Animuses and krieg, LOL. No i didn't, in ACR there is a recruite mission where you save the mentor in Egypt who is a bloodline descendent of Altair. bam, there is the proof http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Egyptians aren't black usually first of all. They are Arabic. Secondly Altair's entire family left Israel/Syria to go to Egypt so there is no hint of anyone being black. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

First of all, Arabic is NOT a nationality, it's a language. I speak arabic, and in today's society when one say's black person they refer to the color of their skin. meaning yea he's part black because his ancestor has dark skin. And his entire family comment ur talking about has nothing to do with 200 years later in Ezio's time. His name is Iskender.

Ohh and by the way when you say usually you aren't proving me wrong ur just saying it could be possible, proving me right. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ok well how about I use the term middle eastern which is still not black. Let me put it this way instead since you have a point with the Arabic comment. Egyptians are not black. Also I didn't know that stuff about Iskender. That is interesting. I realize an Egyptian person can be black of course especially considering Egypt is in Africa. But Egyptians are not primarily black. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry dude, you still aren't disproving my point, "primarily". Yea I just saw the Iskender thing today.

In the late 20th century, the typological model was revived in the domain of Afrocentric historiography and Black nationalism which tends to insist that Ancient Egypt was a "black civilization". - wiki

kriegerdesgottes
12-01-2011, 08:44 PM
Well you haven't actually proven any point though. You are saying that because there are black people in Egypt(which is true) that means that any ancestors that Altair has there must be black because there are small amounts of blacks in Egypt. That's like me saying oh I have an ancestor who came from England who must have been black because there were some blacks in England in 1747.

rain89c
12-01-2011, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
Well you haven't actually proven any point though. You are saying that because there are black people in Egypt(which is true) that means that any ancestors that Altair has there must be black because there are small amounts of blacks in Egypt. That's like me saying oh I have an ancestor who came from England who must have been black because there were some blacks in England in 1747.
The first moment you brought race in a video game to prevent a setting from being used means you are a racist, look at your post history man, you are either subconsciously unaware of your racism or either just denying it by playing dumb.

and looks like you deleted your old racists posts, I was just gonna pull those up for references.

DavisP92
12-01-2011, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
Well you haven't actually proven any point though. You are saying that because there are black people in Egypt(which is true) that means that any ancestors that Altair has there must be black because there are small amounts of blacks in Egypt. That's like me saying oh I have an ancestor who came from England who must have been black because there were some blacks in England in 1747.

nice point, there. however small there weren't a small amount of blacks in Egypt.that's like saying there is a small amount of whites in nashville. That 's pretty much what Egypt was, assumption. Seeing how I wasn't there and neither were you we can't say it for sure. But either way sir, there is a black (dark skinned) ancestor in Desmonds history. It may not be an important ancestor for the game and it may be, but there is. in fact there are probably more then one.

oh and not Altair's ancestor, and you do seem to be quite against the idea of having an African American assassin. Anyone without a biased opinion would agree that yea it is Very likely that Desmond has multiple black ancestors.

kriegerdesgottes
12-01-2011, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
Well you haven't actually proven any point though. You are saying that because there are black people in Egypt(which is true) that means that any ancestors that Altair has there must be black because there are small amounts of blacks in Egypt. That's like me saying oh I have an ancestor who came from England who must have been black because there were some blacks in England in 1747.
The first moment you brought race in a video game to prevent a setting from being used means you are a racist, look at your post history man, you are either subconsciously unaware of your racism or either just denying it by playing dumb. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

wow I don't even know what to say to your stupidity anymore. Me making a point about the race of a character in a video game about where his ancestry might be from to make a point does not mean I hate any race at all. You clearly do not understand the meaning of the word racism. racism means to hate or have biases towards a certain race for stupid reasons. I do not hate or have biases towards any race what so ever. I am simply saying that I don't want an AC game in Asia at this time because
A: Japan is an overused setting
B: Desmond's ancestry does not in any way point towards Asia.

Someone made the point earlier that a person could travel to a location and not be from that area like Ezio in Constantinople which is true but that still infringes on point A: and I have a feeling that wouldn't be good enough for you anyway would it?