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Urufu_Shinjiro
06-16-2009, 02:02 PM
Ok, this is part four, part three was cut short because of offtopic discussion. I want to be very clear that some discussion about mods is ok but that is not the purpose of this thread, please keep any discussion breif and most importantly ON TOPIC or this thread will receive a permanant lock and no part five, in addition to the offenders receiving a ban of indeterminant length.

Part Three (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/4521002167)

Gibbage1
06-16-2009, 04:28 PM
P-38 early models (E F G and H) have been started by yours truly. More details at the web page we cant link too, but here is a VERY VERY early screen shot of a test model.

http://www.gibbageart.com/files/il2/p38f_01.jpg

Urufu_Shinjiro
06-16-2009, 05:00 PM
Awesome, I can't wait for these redone US planes, 38's, ponies, jugs, yippee!

ElAurens
06-16-2009, 05:00 PM
Very cool.

Gibbage1
06-16-2009, 05:08 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2252/3543406362_2bceafc037.jpg

http://p38assn.org/images/p38s/yippee-bottom.jpg

A real P-38 painted to celibate the 5000th P-38 made.

Art-J
06-19-2009, 05:04 PM
Give me an early P-38, early gunship B-25 and this upcoming bigger New Guinea - New Britain map and my life is complete http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

So far so good, keep it up, Gibbage!

Cheers - Art

DKoor
06-19-2009, 05:13 PM
Fixored FM for B5N (it's quite squirky now) +pit, Avenger pit + proper FM, perhaps Devastotor when we are onto it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ...
Hs-129 pit, Do-17, Bf-109G4, Typhoon developed, Lancaster...

I'd settle with these http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif .

PS. Luv new P-38's! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

R_Target
06-19-2009, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Gibbage1:
P-38 early models (E F G and H) have been started by yours truly. More details at the web page we cant link too, but here is a VERY VERY early screen shot of a test model.

http://www.gibbageart.com/files/il2/p38f_01.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Nice! Hey Gibbage, are you going to use the same mapping and just change the model?

Enforcer572005
06-19-2009, 10:39 PM
Gibbage is the best of anyone doing this methinks. I just wish all the stuff he included wiht his AC were originally included when they were adopted for the sim.

These early versions of AC he is working on are gonna be great.....and they will work and be very accurate. Now Solomons and Guadalcanal projects will be much more accurate, as well as North africa and the med.

I heavily photographed Lefty Gardners P-38L with the F fair9ings for racing back in 89 at Harlingen. They are gonna look great in the sim. Thanx for the work Gib.

fly_zo
06-20-2009, 03:50 AM
just one word for you Gents ,

SWORDFISH !
(beta)

reg
Z

ffb
06-20-2009, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by Art-J:
Give me an early P-38, early gunship B-25 and this upcoming bigger New Guinea - New Britain map and my life is complete http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

So far so good, keep it up, Gibbage!

Cheers - Art

Complete!...so you wont be interested in the Whirlwind, Lancaster and Wellington then...?



http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/RAF_Magpie/24-5162-2091-8281.jpg

Gammelpreusse
06-20-2009, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by Gibbage1:
P-38 early models (E F G and H) have been started by yours truly. More details at the web page we cant link too, but here is a VERY VERY early screen shot of a test model.

http://www.gibbageart.com/files/il2/p38f_01.jpg

Ok, that just owns. Way to go, gotta give those babes some love!

b2spirita
06-20-2009, 04:55 AM
Who needs a '38 when you can have this beauty? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/RAF_Magpie/Whirlwind%20ANNOUNCEMENT/weaponstestA4.jpg

and i wanted to post this

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/RAF_Magpie/Lancaster/200293ce.jpg


Magpie, ill remove these if you want me to.

ElAurens
06-20-2009, 11:21 AM
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5000/sf1n.jpg
On our run.

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7129/sf2o.jpg
A hit!

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5623/sf3h.jpg
The Regia Aeronautica arrives!

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/540/sf4w.jpg
Sorry Antonio...

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5703/sf5p.jpg
We'll be home for tea and medals.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

DD_crash
06-20-2009, 11:50 AM
How many torpedoes to sink the Bismark?

ElAurens
06-20-2009, 12:43 PM
Not tried it yet.

I'm betting at least 8.

ElAurens
06-20-2009, 04:41 PM
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1285/grab0003.jpg

Six actually.

DKoor
06-20-2009, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Gibbage1:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2252/3543406362_2bceafc037.jpg

http://p38assn.org/images/p38s/yippee-bottom.jpg

A real P-38 painted to celibate the 5000th P-38 made.
Celibate? http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/DKoor/smileys/lol.gif
Hehe mate that made me laugh.

BTW I made that P-38 skin some time ago... i haven't updated it... maybe I will some day. It ain't some turbo quality skin but anyhow I thought it would be nice to make it since it is quite famous http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif .

http://www.mission4today.com/i...file=details&id=1866 (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads2&file=details&id=1866)

http://adary.lunarpages.com/~missi19/uploads/downloads/images/2007/01/599_yippee%20screenshot.jpg

Gammelpreusse
06-20-2009, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1285/grab0003.jpg

Six actually.

Hayate, my entry was aimed at a certain mainly british debate, not your ego http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

ElAurens
06-20-2009, 07:31 PM
Hayate?

Are you confusing me with someone else?

Gammelpreusse
06-20-2009, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
Hayate?

Are you confusing me with someone else?

Indeed I did! My apologies for that. Don't ask me where that confusion came from, brain fart deluxe http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

ElAurens
06-20-2009, 07:41 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

No problem.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend!

Gammelpreusse
06-20-2009, 08:39 PM
you as well! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

vpmedia
06-21-2009, 02:19 AM
http://static3.filefront.com/images/personal/v/vpmedia/140963/zrjxmdlclo.jpg

skarden
06-21-2009, 03:33 AM
Now thats beautiful!

DKoor
06-22-2009, 02:25 AM
I like how this looks:

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6244/jun1420091237am.gif

zlin
06-22-2009, 08:11 AM
Yeah , rocket smoke trails , look how big the smoke size is comparing to the plane http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif
It is suffering from pile up of cotton balls flying all over the plane if you look from the side of the plane , which you don't see in this gif , that was one of the reasons 3D bullets smoketrail was never released even thou it was done months before this mod came out.
This guy did released 3D smoketrail and we don't see any fix or solution for it as the game engine can't handle such effect.
This bullets smoketrail effect should have been left as it was done originally in 2D http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

JG52Karaya-X
06-22-2009, 08:50 AM
It also imparts a tremendous performance hit when there's a lot of stuff around (especially ships which let loose with their flak).

I've just played around with this mod yesterday and successfully replaced not only the normal tracer smoke but also the white, Italian tracer and the corkscrew tracers found on the MG151s. Looked very nice at first but then I discovered that when you fire a long sustained burst that the fps continuously goes down until a point where suddenly the game seems to be overloaded by the effect and strange graphical anomalies happen. The propeller animation and the canopy glass disappear for example...

Nice idea but not really working out!

vpmedia
06-23-2009, 04:26 AM
smoking tracers look good you only need to play around with nParticles and LiveTime values to get a shorter trail and then the "cotton balls" will go away...also you need a very small sized file as a smoke not the standard

zlin
06-23-2009, 10:16 AM
Here is plane side screenshot of what I am talking about.
It is possible to almost remove cotton balls effect that is all over the plane but then smoketrail is straight without this rocket look alike smoketrail simulation.
The whole file entries values needs to be changed and still you will never get rid completely
of the cotton balls effect as game engine can't keep up with pushing such emiting frequence. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif
Any FPS loss during heated action have also huge impact on how game engine is emiting this 3D smoketrail effect .
it's like when the game engine struggle with FPS for whatever reason , let's say because of big ships action and flak and guns firing , it will beginning to skip emiting of this 3D smoketrail mod making the visual 3D smoketrail effect much worse .
Try it , make some heavy mission and when your FPS wil start to go down or struggle a little bit start shooting continuously and watch this 3D smoketrail effect , result is cotton balls again .


http://3mb.us/images/919_IL2M_W090613_170047_C080531085.jpg (http://3mb.us/view-919_IL2M_W090613_170047_C080531085.jpg)

http://3mb.us/images/829_IL2M_W090615_053941_C080517080.jpg (http://3mb.us/view-829_IL2M_W090615_053941_C080517080.jpg)

http://3mb.us/images/751_IL2M_W090615_054013_C080518090.jpg (http://3mb.us/view-751_IL2M_W090615_054013_C080518090.jpg)

Skunk_438RCAF
06-23-2009, 12:27 PM
http://lespotesajosse.free.fr/f51.jpg

Urufu_Shinjiro
06-23-2009, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Skunk_438RCAF:
http://lespotesajosse.free.fr/f51.jpg

DO WANT!

Is this WIP shots or is it out/beta released?

Skunk_438RCAF
06-23-2009, 03:00 PM
It was done by Josse, so you wont see it on AAA. He has it up for public beta.

Choctaw111
06-23-2009, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by DKoor:
I like how this looks:

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6244/jun1420091237am.gif

AS nice as it is ( I really liked it a lot) it was a FPS killer for me. Shame really.

Jure_502
06-25-2009, 09:02 AM
New slot Yokosuka K5Y1 Willow http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

http://www.shrani.si/f/1f/j1/gU5JHaR/yokosuka.jpg

Joking...Swordfish hack. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Skin by Zeppo.

AllorNothing117
06-26-2009, 04:03 AM
Beautiful 38! Looking good (Y) I'm so getting that MOD when it is done. Keep up the good work... Oh,and "who needs a 38 when you have this?" ME! XD

Uufflakke
07-10-2009, 09:09 AM
Another repaint. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/I-153a.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/I-153b.jpg

Skunk_438RCAF
07-10-2009, 04:02 PM
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8259/0707200900702.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

triad773
07-10-2009, 05:57 PM
Probably has been posted before but this is what I've been into recently

http://triad773.com/2009/augustshots/IL-2/SeaHurriCrete.jpg

The Sea Hurricane by Maus over 1:1 Crete map by VKG http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

Uufflakke
07-11-2009, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by triad773:

The Sea Hurricane by Maus over 1:1 Crete map by VKG http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

Viking4570 brought mapmaking and texturing to a new level. I still love to fly over Crete. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/Crete001-1.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/Crete01.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/Crete02.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/Crete03.jpg

Jure_502
07-15-2009, 03:54 AM
More high level bombing fun, new slot B-24J with more loadouts.

On picture here, 4x 2000 lb

http://www.shrani.si/f/a/Kp/40qbUEXN/1.jpg

Please note the magnificent Zorin's ordinance retexture!

http://www.shrani.si/f/1X/yJ/3BOQ7lsI/2.jpg

danjama
07-15-2009, 06:37 AM
New slot? Does this have it's own cockpit made up? Is it available at AAA?

Jure_502
07-15-2009, 06:48 AM
Yes it is new slot. Sadly, it still uses the B-25 cockpit, but now waistgunners are added so they can be manned by player.

Available at AAA.

triad773
07-15-2009, 01:29 PM
Been luv'n those new bomb, droptank and object mods by Zorin http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

It's those little things that add up http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

Actually on the USAF stuff, it was
Zorin (3D)
Monguse (textures)

Great work though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

Cheers

Triad

Jure_502
07-15-2009, 03:14 PM
Thanks for correction Triad.

Yes, must agree, top notch work with these objects, I love these kind of work.

ytareh
07-21-2009, 09:16 AM
Well for months I was putting off linking my UI1.1 (Ultimate Installation 1.1) install with my Hyperlobby but I finally did it as it seemed there were more and more full real servers I couldnt join with my non UI install.
Well this was a VERY GOOD IDEA because :
1 The Spits Vs 109s Modded Server is amazing
2 My sound bug whereby I could hear gunfire constantly was gone
3 The BLENHEIM 1F FIGHTER and Ju88 with torps and CANNON

Both the above planes are so much fun to catch over cocky single engined fighters out in !

I only 'discovered' the Blenheim 1F last night ...wow its better than a Hurricane in many respects at least 'on paper' (IL2 Compare)

Sharpe26
07-22-2009, 02:52 PM
just wondering out loud here how you guys feel about the difference in mod between ultrapack and unified installer.

danjama
07-22-2009, 03:07 PM
i wont go near the ultrapack

JG52Uther
07-22-2009, 03:31 PM
An awful lot of people are moving toward the ultrapack now.It is the standard install for il2 war online war.

PanzerAce
07-22-2009, 03:42 PM
Ultra pack? First I've heard of it. Is it the same place the UI is?

ElAurens
07-22-2009, 04:03 PM
No, the Ultra Pack is done by the European mod community. If you even mention it at AAA you risk a ban there.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

The UP differs in that they do change weapons and aircraft performance.

b2spirita
07-22-2009, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
No, the Ultra Pack is done by the European mod community. If you even mention it at AAA you risk a ban there.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

The UP differs in that they do change weapons and aircraft performance.

Does anyone know specifics? Perhaps via pm..

JG52Uther
07-22-2009, 05:00 PM
El things have changed at AAA now.The founder member has gone,and things seem much more open.
Could be good,could be bad.

triad773
07-22-2009, 11:39 PM
With this Ultrapack- I took a glance at the site: can one get individual mods or is it basically all or nothing with that?

I had an interest in the Sea Fury in particular, but don't think it would be worth an entire different install for that only.

PanzerAce
07-23-2009, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
No, the Ultra Pack is done by the European mod community. If you even mention it at AAA you risk a ban there.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

The UP differs in that they do change weapons and aircraft performance.

Then it's a can of worms I want nothing to do with. Thanks for the heads up. I'll be sticking with AAA's UI then

Flight_boy1990
07-23-2009, 03:33 AM
Originally posted by JG52Uther:
El things have changed at AAA now.The founder member has gone,and things seem much more open.
Could be good.

Don't be so sure yet,mate.

Uufflakke
07-23-2009, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
No, the Ultra Pack is done by the European mod community. If you even mention it at AAA you risk a ban there.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif



A ban? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
I know that they don't like it also when you talk about the Cross Channel map by the other mod community the 352nd Virtual Fighter Group.
And now a ban for discussing the Ultrapack?
Probably they forgot that this game still is somebody else's intellectual property...
Ironic situation. Here at the official Ubi site we can talk about all these kind of things (to a certain extend)

FoolTrottel
07-23-2009, 09:47 AM
Here at the official Ubi site we can talk about all these kind of things (to a certain extend)
Yeah, sure.

So, get it back to 'why ppl use the MODS', and leave out discussions on where they came from please, that doesn't belong here.

Uufflakke
07-23-2009, 01:02 PM
Just read that the Avia 534 just needs some fine tuning. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
So we need to have some patience...

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/Avia53401.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/Avia53402.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/Avia53403.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/Avia-2.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/Avia-3-1.jpg

RegRag1977
07-23-2009, 01:08 PM
Good Lord, this IS awsome! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

MatoKKK
07-23-2009, 02:04 PM
And where did u read this about Avia? I suppose not on AAA.

Uufflakke
07-23-2009, 02:57 PM
There is (very interesting) info about it at the site you mentioned months and months ago but they didn't do much with it.
Got my info from other sites actually. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Two other screenies from the end of 2004(!) but it seems to be that it won't take that long anymore.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/Avia53404.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/Avia53405.jpg

Metatron_123
07-23-2009, 04:28 PM
I'm really looking forward to that one, in no small way because it's going to be our only inline engined biplane for a while, and it will be great for spicing up Spanish Civil War scenarios among others.

Flight_boy1990
07-23-2009, 04:31 PM
B 534 and spanish civil war???
It won't be that spanish or civil war. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Flight_boy1990
07-23-2009, 09:47 PM
Anyone wants Horsa Mk.I?

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm63/GringoBG/HorsaGlider1.jpg
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm63/GringoBG/HorsaGlider3.jpg

Will be flyable,cockpit is in the works too.

Metatron_123
07-23-2009, 10:47 PM
I mean it has the look of the 30s bi-plane, like the Fury and the CR42. Plus I believe some Avias were delivered, though never arrived in Spain.

Nice Horsa.

KRISTORF
07-24-2009, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by FoolTrottel:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Here at the official Ubi site we can talk about all these kind of things (to a certain extend)
Yeah, sure.

So, get it back to 'why ppl use the MODS', and leave out discussions on where they came from please, that doesn't belong here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good point well put.

PanzerAce
07-24-2009, 03:18 AM
Hey Uuff, where is that Avia being worked on? I love the late 30s planes in IL2...(and I hate that I haven't found a server with any decent maps with early birds)

Uufflakke
07-24-2009, 05:37 AM
Originally posted by PanzerAce:
Hey Uuff, where is that Avia being worked on?

I let you know by PM 'cause as you can see on the previous page and in the quote above I'm not allowed to mention where mods come from.
But I found the links to it somewhere on the site where you can get Ultrapack.

JG52Uther
07-24-2009, 06:47 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/JG52Uther/Seafury.jpg
Seafury

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/JG52Uther/FW190A7Sturmbock.jpg
FW190 A7 Sturmbock
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

b2spirita
07-24-2009, 07:24 AM
I don't remember seeing the fury at aaa... is it elsewhere?

JG52Uther
07-24-2009, 07:48 AM
It was at AAA,before it disappeared.
Its in the ultr@pack.

p1ngu666
07-24-2009, 10:02 AM
is ultra pack pretty much all the mods in one easy to install bundle?http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

robtek1957
07-24-2009, 10:13 AM
Yes, including FM DM and Weapon changes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

Urufu_Shinjiro
07-24-2009, 10:31 AM
I have nothing against other mod teams, I'm not one of those that are married to AAA, but I do not like weapon FM and DM changes to stock planes! It is a can of worms we shouldn't open...

na85
07-24-2009, 10:45 AM
+1

I would have preferred if they had just cloned, say, the P-51D and inserted it into a new spot with the new weapons models so in the list you'd see something like

P-51-D20-NA
P-51-D20-NA w API
..

Gammelpreusse
07-24-2009, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by na85:
+1

I would have preferred if they had just cloned, say, the P-51D and inserted it into a new spot with the new weapons models so in the list you'd see something like

P-51-D20-NA
P-51-D20-NA w API
..

Agreed. Also, this may cause some severve compatibility issues with other versions of the game. I am pro mods, but this is not a good policy at all.

danjama
07-24-2009, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by na85:
+1

I would have preferred if they had just cloned, say, the P-51D and inserted it into a new spot with the new weapons models so in the list you'd see something like

P-51-D20-NA
P-51-D20-NA w API
..

or P51-D20-NA-How we like it

Screw that stuff, people need to just stay the hell away from it or online WILL fade.

And Pingu, no its not, what you are talking about is the Unified Installer from AAA, not this make believe crap.

na85
07-24-2009, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by Gammelpreusse:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by na85:
+1

I would have preferred if they had just cloned, say, the P-51D and inserted it into a new spot with the new weapons models so in the list you'd see something like

P-51-D20-NA
P-51-D20-NA w API
..

Agreed. Also, this may cause some severve compatibility issues with other versions of the game. I am pro mods, but this is not a good policy at all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It wouldn't cause any more compatibility issues than we already have (i.e. lots). At least with the approach I outlined the stock planes remain stock.

danjama
07-24-2009, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by na85:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gammelpreusse:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by na85:
+1

I would have preferred if they had just cloned, say, the P-51D and inserted it into a new spot with the new weapons models so in the list you'd see something like

P-51-D20-NA
P-51-D20-NA w API
..

Agreed. Also, this may cause some severve compatibility issues with other versions of the game. I am pro mods, but this is not a good policy at all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It wouldn't cause any more compatibility issues than we already have (i.e. lots). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hardly lots is it, it breaks down quite easily, you either have games with 408m, 408mods, or 409m or 409mods. How hard is that to work out?

Urufu_Shinjiro
07-24-2009, 11:59 AM
Ok, I shouldn't have gotten back on this subject, that's my bad. Let's just let this go and get back to showing some cool mods.

p1ngu666
07-24-2009, 01:44 PM
now im confused as to what to get http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
was basicaly planning a fresh install, with a modpack, and plop my old missions and skins on top...

Urufu_Shinjiro
07-24-2009, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by p1ngu666:
now im confused as to what to get http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
was basicaly planning a fresh install, with a modpack, and plop my old missions and skins on top...

I prefer the AAA unified installer.

1. I know it's compatible with most of the 4.09 modded servers

2. I know it's compatible with all the other fine mods at AAA

3. I know that if I fly a stock plane I will not have an unfair advantage over someone who is unmodded.

danjama
07-24-2009, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by p1ngu666:
now im confused as to what to get http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
was basicaly planning a fresh install, with a modpack, and plop my old missions and skins on top...

I prefer the AAA unified installer.

1. I know it's compatible with most of the 4.09 modded servers

2. I know it's compatible with all the other fine mods at AAA

3. I know that if I fly a stock plane I will not have an unfair advantage over someone who is unmodded. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

+1

trust us Pingu, UI 1.1 at AAA is the only way to go.

Viikate_
07-24-2009, 04:41 PM
Isn't that Avia B-534 already in 4.09?

ElAurens
07-24-2009, 04:48 PM
No sir, it is not.

Sadly.

MatoKKK
07-24-2009, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by Uufflakke:

There is (very interesting) info about it at the site you mentioned months and months ago but they didn't do much with it.


Trust me... they did.

But if you don't mind PM me the link to your info sources about Avia too.

p1ngu666
07-24-2009, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by Boosher:
Hey P1ngu!

The 1.1 UI will basically get you up to date. After that it's a matter of downloading mods and tweaking your settings to find something you like.

hey boosher http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ill sort it out tomoz then http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, downloaded both packs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Uufflakke
07-25-2009, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by MatoKKK:

But if you don't mind PM me the link to your info sources about Avia too.
PM sent MatoKKK...


By the way, I would love to fly over this map when it's ready.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/MapMod.jpg

steiner562
07-25-2009, 07:18 AM
Thread cleaned up.
Guys if you need tech support for these mods go to the relevant site you dl them and ask there,its not possible to get tech support of any kind for them here,this thread is solely for showing the work off,or atleast have the courtesy to take it to PM to respect the forum rules.Please keep the thread ontopic
Thanks.

Choctaw111
07-25-2009, 04:33 PM
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/MapMod.jpg [/QUOTE]

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I don't have the words!!!

Freiwillige
07-25-2009, 04:41 PM
P-26 Peashooter released at AAA! Its beautiful!

ElAurens
07-25-2009, 07:13 PM
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/4515/Boeingp2.jpg

http://www.airbum.com/photos/BoeingP-26Peashooter.jpg

http://www.modelartbymarco.com/johnml/IL2P26a.jpg

I now fear for the WW1 mod.

Really I do.

Feathered_IV
07-25-2009, 07:43 PM
Slap em together and get em out the door. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

When someone has upwards of twenty work in progress announcements going, it tends to set alarm bells ringing.

PanzerAce
07-25-2009, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:

When someone has upwards of twenty work in progress announcements going, it tends to set alarm bells ringing.

?


Gotta love the peashooter though. I always thought the pre-war stuff was the most fun to fly.

Anyone have any idea how easy it will be to import IL2 models into SOW? Obviously they will need to be cleaned up, but it could make things REALLY interesting for SOW, you could dogfight Mig-15s with Sopwith Camels http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BillSwagger
07-26-2009, 12:22 AM
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r201/spre77/xwingcopy.jpg

why wouldn't you??

lol

skarden
07-26-2009, 01:57 AM
Yep the new Spit 3D model is starting to look really good http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Uufflakke
07-26-2009, 03:02 AM
Originally posted by ElAurens:

http://www.modelartbymarco.com/johnml/IL2P26a.jpg



Reading the comments before I want to give this nice little plane a chance it doesn't seem to have its own cockpit, FM and DM. So if it's correct you get a Japanese plane with the looks of a Peashooter.
No Frankenplanes for me... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

Skoshi Tiger
07-26-2009, 03:18 AM
Originally posted by BillSwagger:
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r201/spre77/xwingcopy.jpg

why wouldn't you??

lol

Well the flight model is your basic 25lb spit, but no amount of modding is gointo un-pork the quad turbo lasers ( And no, be fore you ask - you can't bounce them off the ground to distroy a tiger tank!!!) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

BillSwagger
07-26-2009, 01:38 PM
sorry, 90 percent of the FM still revolves around the AI, but you can still yell at the droid for a hollywood effect.

ElAurens
07-26-2009, 02:40 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Xiolablu3
07-26-2009, 03:16 PM
Ya know, funnily enough I find the 50 cals more powerful even with just the new sounds !

Wierd I know, but the new sounds actually add a feeling of power to them.

I realise they dont do any more real damage, but it actually feels like you are firing something powerful when you use the sound mod in the inified installer 1.1

This makes all the difference for me. Wierd I know!

RegRag1977
07-26-2009, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by BillSwagger:
sorry, 90 percent of the FM still revolves around the AI, but you can still yell at the droid for a hollywood effect.

So any chance that the Droid can repair damage in flight? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Trefle
07-26-2009, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by BillSwagger:
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r201/spre77/xwingcopy.jpg

why wouldn't you??

lol

lmao , does it exist for real in a mod ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Makes you wonder that a well done Star Wars spacecraft sim with the IL-2 engine would probably sell better on the market than IL-2 itself (providing you have enough money to buy Star wars license though ) . http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JG52Uther
07-26-2009, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by Trefle:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BillSwagger:
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r201/spre77/xwingcopy.jpg

why wouldn't you??

lol

lmao , does it exist for real in a mod ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No,its in the stock game,just disguised as a Spitfire IX.

Uufflakke
07-26-2009, 04:02 PM
It does exist at AAA (= Allied Aeronautics Army)
You can find it in the SFFSFS.
(SFFSFS = Science Fiction Flight Simulation Forum Section)

Freiwillige
07-26-2009, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by Uufflakke:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ElAurens:

http://www.modelartbymarco.com/johnml/IL2P26a.jpg



Reading the comments before I want to give this nice little plane a chance it doesn't seem to have its own cockpit, FM and DM. So if it's correct you get a Japanese plane with the looks of a Peashooter.
No Frankenplanes for me... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its gonna have its own cockpit and fm. Right now its just beta!

Trefle
07-26-2009, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by Uufflakke:
It does exist at AAA (= Allied Aeronautics Army)
You can find it in the SFFSFS.
(SFFSFS = Science Fiction Flight Simulation Forum Section)

Thanks Ufflake , i don't plan to fly it cause i'm more into historical stuffs , but that's fun to see someone had the idea http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ElAurens
07-26-2009, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Freiwillige:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Uufflakke:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ElAurens:

http://www.modelartbymarco.com/johnml/IL2P26a.jpg



Reading the comments before I want to give this nice little plane a chance it doesn't seem to have its own cockpit, FM and DM. So if it's correct you get a Japanese plane with the looks of a Peashooter.
No Frankenplanes for me... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its gonna have its own cockpit and fm. Right now its just beta! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hope they work on th 3D model some more, cause it's just plain wrong.

Urufu_Shinjiro
07-27-2009, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Freiwillige:
Its gonna have its own cockpit and fm. Right now its just beta!

Then why is it in the main AC download section not the Beta AC section? I didn't see where they said it was going to have it's own FM and cockpit, if that is the case then it is most definitely a BETA and should not be with the other, complete and released AC.

general_kalle
07-27-2009, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by Trefle:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BillSwagger:
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r201/spre77/xwingcopy.jpg

why wouldn't you??

lol


lmao , does it exist for real in a mod ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Makes you wonder that a well done Star Wars spacecraft sim with the IL-2 engine would probably sell better on the market than IL-2 itself (providing you have enough money to buy Star wars license though ) . http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

no, Photoshopped, easy to see. look at the lower right wing and both of the left ones...white spots around it.

RS_Spitslayer
07-27-2009, 03:40 PM
We gotta have a tie fighter now!

BillSwagger
07-27-2009, 09:28 PM
It was gonna be a Tie Fighter or the Millennium Falcon.

and yes its a joke...completely photoshopped.

I just thought it was funny to mention considering all the stuff modders can do.

I think if it were made in Il2, its stall speed would be 300-400mph.

A Tie Fighter wouldn't even stay in the air.

and the Millennium Falcon might be more realistic if it could hover like a Harrier.

Otherwise, i think these concepts are well out of Il2s league, but then again these are fictional "spacecraft".

I did see some program where they broke down the Star Wars realism, much like people break down il2 for its realism.

Surprisingly a Tie Fighter was probably the most realistic concept.

Viikate_
07-28-2009, 03:39 AM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
No sir, it is not.

Sadly.

You is wrong sir. Avia is in 4.09

http://simhq.com/_air13/air_420a.html
http://spread-wings.ru/content/view/238/1/

Feathered_IV
07-28-2009, 04:38 AM
Well done Viikate. I know you worked long and hard on that.

Viikate_
07-28-2009, 05:09 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
Well done Viikate. I know you worked long and hard on that.

Well not that much. Avia was Jutocsa's model.

ElAurens
07-28-2009, 05:37 AM
I don't see it in the 4.09 that I am flying.

Could you enlighten me here?

Feathered_IV
07-28-2009, 05:42 AM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
I don't see it in the 4.09 that I am flying.

Could you enlighten me here?

http://simhq.com/_air13/air_420a.html http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

Uufflakke
07-28-2009, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:

http://simhq.com/_air13/air_420a.html http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

OMG!That link is the best news since a looong time. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

ElAurens
07-28-2009, 10:40 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

jarkko2004
07-28-2009, 12:51 PM
Fokker DXXI http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif
Please http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif Launch this patch soon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Metatron_123
07-28-2009, 01:09 PM
Awesome! This made my day!

Some of my fave planes in there.

Uufflakke
07-30-2009, 06:46 AM
On it's way, someday...

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/RogozarskiKI3.jpg

Urufu_Shinjiro
07-30-2009, 01:36 PM
F-84G Thunderjet beta!

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv19/F22-Raptor-2006/2907200920-40-50.jpg

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv19/F22-Raptor-2006/2907200920-41-00.jpg

Xiolablu3
07-30-2009, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by Uufflakke:
On it's way, someday...

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/RogozarskiKI3.jpg

Hi mate, what plane is that please?

Uufflakke
07-30-2009, 04:46 PM
It's a Rogozarski <STRIKE>KI-3</STRIKE> IK-3. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

major_setback
07-30-2009, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Uufflakke:
It's a Rogozarski KI-3.

Maybe instead the ...IK-3?

EmKen
08-01-2009, 03:56 PM
Is it related to the Moraine-Saulnier 406? It looks kinda similar.

carts
08-02-2009, 02:18 PM
Heads up chaps,a Halifax is available over at the "other place!"

waffen-79
08-02-2009, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by carts:
Heads up chaps,a Halifax is available over at the "other place!"

oh boy! oh boy! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Tooz_69GIAP
08-02-2009, 05:35 PM
Hmm, I'll need to give that one a shot!! Although, those screenshots of the model look a little clunky.

VMF-214_HaVoK
08-02-2009, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by carts:
Heads up chaps,a Halifax is available over at the "other place!"

What other place are you referring too? Could you let me know one way or another please? Thanks!

S!

JG52Uther
08-02-2009, 05:57 PM
AAA HaVoK

Feathered_IV
08-03-2009, 03:56 AM
My beer goggles aren't nearly thick enough. That's no Halifax.

JG52Uther
08-03-2009, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
My beer goggles aren't nearly thick enough. That's no Halifax.
So don't use it! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Freiwillige
08-03-2009, 04:09 AM
No its a Hali hack! All kidding aside Rawners did a great job with what he had and this was one of his frank en planes he had burning before the scratch builts showed up on the scene. So instead of scrapping it he released it. Be glad I am sure it took allot of work on his part to just get what he got.

ElAurens
08-03-2009, 05:36 AM
I was humored by one of the lemmmings at AAA saying that Ranwers should get a job with Oleg.

His work wouldn't even get him a foot in the door.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif indeed.

Skunk_438RCAF
08-03-2009, 06:35 AM
I can appreciate Ranwers' so called talent, but at the same time I avoid all his mods like the plague. They cause so many bugs that even the guys who build the UI are reluctant to include them.

Frankenplanes should have been abandoned the minute that importing new models was made possible. But nOOooooOO, most of the 12 year olds at AAA want all these abominations in their game.

Uufflakke
08-03-2009, 07:31 AM
I never understand Frankenplanes. As the "Other Side" consider themselves serious they should not even allow Frankenplanes anymore. Frankenplanes are sooooo 2008.
And this Halifax doesn't look like one with its odd shaped engines (as far as the screenshots are representative)
The more you see this happen the more you long for 4.09

Feathered_IV
08-03-2009, 07:56 AM
You should see the Heinkel 219. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
I don't choose to use these frankenplanes, but I don't begrudge those who do get pleasure from such approximations. The only thing that would worry me is if a legitimate project of a much needed aircraft was cancelled because a hacked version already existed.

Skunk_438RCAF
08-03-2009, 08:39 AM
Its funny you should mention that F_IV, because I know for a fact that the boys at AAA have Harti's Typhoon model in hand and they still let Ranwers' Typhoon get released. I dont know if they cancelled work on Harti's model in favour of Ranwers' work of art but I have a feeling we wont be seeing it soon because there is already a "Typhoon" available.

I know that Harti's model requires some work, but at the same time, why not put a stop to the frankenplane version and have someone work on that instead?

I dont know what goes on behind the scenes at AAA, but sometimes I do wonder who makes all these weird decisions.

Uufflakke
08-03-2009, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by Skunk_438RCAF:

I dont know what goes on behind the scenes at AAA, but sometimes I do wonder who makes all these weird decisions.

Well, even modders do wonder about that. I know that one of them had the strange feeling that you have the be close to the AAA guys or otherwise...and he critized (well, it p!ssed him off actually) a certain mod got released far to soon. That's why he ain't doing that much anymore at AAA.

But I think we start to get OT with discussing their internal affairs and should show some nice mods instead.

Flight_boy1990
08-03-2009, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by Uufflakke:
...show some nice mods instead.
Sounds funny to me.

Boosher
08-03-2009, 10:18 AM
Never seen any other Typhoon model than Ranwers'. I'll ask about it when I get the chance.

Skunk_438RCAF
08-03-2009, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by Boosher:
Never seen any other Typhoon model than Ranwers'. I'll ask about it when I get the chance.

There was a topic about it when they got the model. There were about a dozen replies in it and then it just disappeared.

I asked where the topic had gone too a few days later and that got deleted too.

This is the model they have:
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f239/Skunk24/Tyhpoonlate.jpg

I saved the image the day the topic was made.

danjama
08-03-2009, 04:11 PM
I have Ranwers Typhoon and i actually don't think it's too bad. In fact, i genuinely enjoy flying it, even offline. And i think it looks awesome.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a194/danjama/tiffy2.jpg?t=1249337489

AndyJWest
08-03-2009, 04:25 PM
That Typhoon c o c k pit canopy looks just plain weird to me...

PanzerAce
08-03-2009, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by AndyJWest:
That Typhoon c o c k pit canopy looks just plain weird to me... Yah, that's....weird.


And that's the reason I don't like franked planes :/

VW-IceFire
08-03-2009, 10:49 PM
Hopefully someone will do up a proper Typhoon model at some point. Its a good (excellent even) frankenplane...but its still a frankenplane.

ffb
08-05-2009, 03:23 PM
Some of the posters here sound like old women gossiping over the garden fence..... probably never having made anything themselves, they changed from being violent opponents of the mods to jumping firmly on the fence, and with their purist noses stuck firmly in the air look down upon anything which they see as less than perfect..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

ElAurens
08-05-2009, 04:56 PM
Sorry about your low standards.

I don't think there is one mod aircraft at AAA that would pass Oleg's QC standards.

Maybe the Swordfish would as it is made from scratch to a high standard.

The Frankenplanes are laughable, at best.

MD_Titus
08-05-2009, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
Sorry about your low standards.

I don't think there is one mod aircraft at AAA that would pass Oleg's QC standards.

Maybe the Swordfish would as it is made from scratch to a high standard.

The Frankenplanes are laughable, at best.
f9f and sabre come close i'd say, although still to see final versions of those. not disagreeing with you mind.

Freiwillige
08-05-2009, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
Sorry about your low standards.

I don't think there is one mod aircraft at AAA that would pass Oleg's QC standards.

Maybe the Swordfish would as it is made from scratch to a high standard.

The Frankenplanes are laughable, at best.

You are joking right? If not then set your gaze upon that horrid P-40E/M that Oleg gave us.

The 190's A3\D11\D13 are high standard.

The Tinian air Groups Zero's and KI-43's exceed
Oleg's standards since the repaired the defects in the models.

And what about the Spitfire MK.I?

Flight_boy1990
08-05-2009, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by Freiwillige:
The 190's A3\D11\D13 are high standard.
...
And what about the Spitfire MK.I?

The FW-190 A-3 is basicly the 1C A-4,but with removed tail antenna,and some not correct at all "new" nose section.
The FW-190 D-11/13 are basicly the 1C original D-9,but with some slightly reworked nose section and tail.
And your beloved Spitfire Mk.I is basicly the original 1C Mk.Vb but with removed wing cannons.
Those mods are a simple reworking of ingame meshes,build by 3D party and/or 1C Maddox games modellers,so this is why they look "high standart",because they are 1C or 3rd party build,and are simply reworked by repositioning/deleting some vertexes.
The funny thing is that they are not even bothering to do so for all LOD's.

You make the results by yourself.

MD_Titus
08-05-2009, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by Freiwillige:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ElAurens:
Sorry about your low standards.

I don't think there is one mod aircraft at AAA that would pass Oleg's QC standards.

Maybe the Swordfish would as it is made from scratch to a high standard.

The Frankenplanes are laughable, at best.

You are joking right? If not then set your gaze upon that horrid P-40E/M that Oleg gave us.

The 190's A3\D11\D13 are high standard.

The Tinian air Groups Zero's and KI-43's exceed
Oleg's standards since the repaired the defects in the models.

And what about the Spitfire MK.I? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
the 190's are reworkings of stock models. mainly the cowlings.

the tainan groups work is exceptionally good, but instantly disposes of the skin library. also under the impression that those are reworkings, rather than bolting two bits of different planes together and warping chunks to make it look like something it isn't.

the majority of frankenplanes would not be up to the standards of official il-2. but some folk are happy enough with them, and others do not use them.

jarink
08-05-2009, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
Sorry about your low standards.

I don't think there is one mod aircraft at AAA that would pass Oleg's QC standards.

Maybe the Swordfish would as it is made from scratch to a high standard.

The Frankenplanes are laughable, at best.

Oleg's QC standards have obviously evolved and are far from "standardized". Besides the horrible (and obvious) mistakes with the P-40E's 3D model, there have been numerous other little mistakes (like the B-17F's cheek guns which are backwards because they were unaltered from the G's 3D model) to the quality of skin mappings. Some planes, like the Mustang are a breeze to skin while others (including strangely enough, most of the Soviet planes) are warped all over the place and have mirrored parts, etc.

It's obvious which planes got some lovin' from their creators and which ones didn't. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

I don't consider the frankenplanes laughable. While they obviously don't look as nice as purpose-built models, they have served a valuable purpose in learning how the 3D modeling in IL2 works.

Flight_boy1990
08-05-2009, 05:42 PM
The frankenstein planes have nothing to do with the IL-2 3D modelling at all.

Skunk_438RCAF
08-05-2009, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by ffb:
Some of the posters here sound like old women gossiping over the garden fence..... probably never having made anything themselves, they changed from being violent opponents of the mods to jumping firmly on the fence, and with their purist noses stuck firmly in the air look down upon anything which they see as less than perfect..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Sorry to disappoint. I have modded and know what "modders" go through in terms of post mod release support and the whinery that goes on.

Maybe its just my anal self thriving for perfection expecting too much from other modders.

ElAurens
08-05-2009, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by ffb:
... probably never having made anything themselves,

This is a totally spurious line of "reasoning", and an argument that is old an tired and has no basis in fact.

It's like saying that because I don't make wine I cannot taste the difference between an excellent vintage Chianti Classico Reserva, and a bottle of rot-gut from the local carry out.

Zorin2008
08-05-2009, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Flight_boy1990:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Freiwillige:
The 190's A3\D11\D13 are high standard.
...
And what about the Spitfire MK.I?

The FW-190 A-3 is basicly the 1C A-4,but with removed tail antenna,and some not correct at all "new" nose section.
The FW-190 D-11/13 are basicly the 1C original D-9,but with some slightly reworked nose section and tail.
And your beloved Spitfire Mk.I is basicly the original 1C Mk.Vb but with removed wing cannons.
Those mods are a simple reworking of ingame meshes,build by 3D party and/or 1C Maddox games modellers,so this is why they look "high standart",because they are 1C or 3rd party build,and are simply reworked by repositioning/deleting some vertexes.
The funny thing is that they are not even bothering to do so for all LOD's.

You make the results by yourself. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mind you, comparing the Fw190 mesh with factory drawings revealed how wrong the 1C version was to begin with.

So please, don't try to establish a high stand for something that is factually wrong. I do share your opinion that the frankenplanes are genuinely of poor quality, as they are not purpose build from scratch, yet I consider my XIV for example, to be on par with the rest of the in-game bunch.

Freiwillige
08-05-2009, 09:08 PM
Agreed with the Mk.XIV another that meets or surpasses Olegs req.

Zorin has done wonders with under slung ordinance as well!

While I agree some mods are rough there are some steller quality mods as well.

MatoKKK
08-06-2009, 08:32 AM
Taking Frankenplanes out of any modeling discussion, I see the biggest problems with current modding attitude and modeling attempts for IL-2 in not following technical specifications defined by the official developer of the game. Not even close. I am not talking about some marginal differences, the modders are ignoring most of the good practice in game industry modeling and specific IL-2 modelling.

Today, you can see some new models (many of them ripped from other sims) coming with polygon count 3-5x higher than what would be accepted by Maddox Games during the days when they were willing to include 3rd party planes. You can see new planes that have the most detailed LOD model (Level Of Detail) only, no other LOD models included, thus completely wasting game engine and your HW resources. Not to mention no or very poor internal structures, collision modeling, smoothing and inefficient texture mapping. In other words, something that would mean in terms of modeling a 25-30% job completed if done by the specs, now means 100% finished. Its a nasty shortcut modders are taking, setting a standard that people seem to accept because it is faster and more convenient for them. And this is only working because we got more powerful computers these days. Its working, so what? attitude? Ironically, none of the high polygon models on modding sites I have seen, can not compete in visual quality with some low-polygon planes such as Gladiator, I-185, Fokker D.XXI and Avia B-534 that have been modeled by the specs.

The problem is that when SoW comes out, according to Oleg it will be semi-open for outside modeling through the special tools he will release. However, if people are not willing today to follow the much simplier IL-2 specs, how will they follow more demanding SoW specs? This is the trend that disturbs me.

Flight_boy1990
08-06-2009, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by Zorin2008:
Mind you, comparing the Fw190 mesh with factory drawings revealed how wrong the 1C version was to begin with.

So you're saying that Oleg Maddox,spend useless funds to buy the non-original and non-accuarate WW2 drawings from the archives in Germany?

The drawings that you're using for your A-3 are non original at all.Because the only real original WW2 drawings of aircrafts like the Messerchmitt;Focke Wulf;Heinkel;Junkers;etc.Can only be found in only few,paid archives.
I'll give you an exemple:
-Original WW2 blueprints of the Me Bf-109 series,
http://www.luftfahrt-archiv-hafner.de/ - There as some for most of the Germanys' WW2 designed aircrafts.
-Original WW2 blueprints of the FW-190 series,
http://www.flugwerk.de/index.php-Specially for the FW-190 series.

Mind you,the blueprints that you're using from airwar.ru are not trustfull at all.

Also i won't comment your Mk.XIV,mainly because i don't have anymore time for this thread,and i haven't downloaded this airplane to test it at all.But it's not looking bad considering that you reworked the ingame meshes.
But i'm sure that if i start to digg deep in all the damage meshes,and different LODs and overlays;Null materials;etc...You won't like the list that i'll come up with,Zorin.

Don't take my words personally/or as against your work.I'm talking from professional point of view.

Best requards,
Gringo.

Gammelpreusse
08-06-2009, 09:13 AM
Not to get involved in this discussion or taking sides....but those 190 shots on that page DO look more like the new 190 compared to the old one.

Zorin2008
08-06-2009, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Flight_boy1990:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zorin2008:
Mind you, comparing the Fw190 mesh with factory drawings revealed how wrong the 1C version was to begin with.

So you're saying that Oleg Maddox,spend useless funds to buy the non-original and non-accuarate WW2 drawings from the archives in Germany?

The drawings that you're using for your A-3 are non original at all.Because the only real original WW2 drawings of aircrafts like the Messerchmitt;Focke Wulf;Heinkel;Junkers;etc.Can only be found in only few,paid archives.
I'll give you an exemple:
-Original WW2 blueprints of the Me Bf-109 series,
http://www.luftfahrt-archiv-hafner.de/ - There as some for most of the Germanys' WW2 designed aircrafts.
-Original WW2 blueprints of the FW-190 series,
http://www.flugwerk.de/index.php-Specially for the FW-190 series.

Mind you,the blueprints that you're using from airwar.ru are not trustfull at all.

Also i won't comment your Mk.XIV,mainly because i don't have anymore time for this thread,and i haven't downloaded this airplane to test it at all.But it's not looking bad considering that you reworked the ingame meshes.
But i'm sure that if i start to digg deep in all the damage meshes,and different LODs and overlays;Null materials;etc...You won't like the list that i'll come up with,Zorin.

Don't take my words personally/or as against your work.I'm talking from professional point of view.

Best requards,
Gringo. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do watch your tone, even if its not personal as you say...

I do spend money to buy blueprints of this quality: http://cgi.ebay.de/02-Focke-Wu...d=p4634.c0.m14.l1262 (http://cgi.ebay.de/02-Focke-Wulf-Fw190-Bauplan-Blueprints-Plans_W0QQitemZ220462066027QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRC_M odellbau?hash=item335490296b&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262)

So stop insulting me with stupid and unnecessary airwar.ru bull.

BillSwagger
08-06-2009, 11:38 AM
I enjoy the mods for the most part.
And i think they've added a few nice features to this game.
On the other hand, if someone gave me a glass of water, and told me there was one drop of dookie in it, i still wouldn't drink it.
It only takes one rotten mod or illicit tampering for me to make up my mind, and i have.

I'm a little mystified why the new 4.09 release wont have any kind of restrictions, when they could take the time to hand pick what is acceptable and include it in the patch and be done with the dookie, and preserve the water.
http://www.moviemalls.com/E/imagesE/army-of-darkness-06.jpg

FoolTrottel
08-06-2009, 11:50 AM
No links, just examples of why some people use the Mods

Appearantly ppl keep forgetting what this thread is for. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
Again and again.

Too bad... The end.

Locking.