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Kuna_
02-09-2006, 12:49 PM

WOLFMondo
02-09-2006, 12:56 PM
Its a nice plane. In a 42 scenario it seems to rock compared to fighers of that era, especially at alitude, it turns very nice up high too.

Definately in the catergory for 'new best'!

jds1978
02-09-2006, 01:03 PM
my initial reaction is that this is the RAF fighter bomber we have been waiting for!

jds1978
02-09-2006, 01:04 PM
I didn't even start with bombing yet.

1st thing i did with 4.03 was set up a QMB with 4 Mossies vs enemy Airfield....unbelievable!!!

Abbuzze
02-09-2006, 01:13 PM
Maybe a small bug at the FB mossie?
There seems to be a hitting surface 2m abouve the wing. Mossiepilots take a look at it.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/p123/bilder/mossie_bug.jpg

madsarmy
02-09-2006, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by jds1978:
1st thing i did with 4.03 was set up a QMB with 4 Mossies vs enemy Airfield....unbelievable!!!

Dito!
Had one blow up infront of me thought! Not Pretty! Took a beating myself alsohttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/tommybomb/mossie.jpg

Friendly_flyer
02-09-2006, 01:21 PM
Have the convergence at 3 or 400 meters, aim well and use your speed. This is a great plane!

msalama
02-09-2006, 01:26 PM
Just tested it in QMB vs. 4 ace He-111's. Got them pwned http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif albeit not without nicks, scratches and worse http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

This is one beautiful - and murderous!!! - babe, B sure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

luftluuver
02-09-2006, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
Its a nice plane. In a 42 scenario it seems to rock compared to fighers of that era, especially at alitude, it turns very nice up high too.

Definately in the catergory for 'new best'! This is the FBVI your are talking about? Well it should as the FBVI is a 1943 a/c. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif First one appeared in Feb 1943.

BirdieNum-nums
02-09-2006, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by Abbuzze:
Maybe a small bug at the FB mossie?
There seems to be a hitting surface 2m abouve the wing. Mossiepilots take a look at it.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/p123/bilder/mossie_bug.jpg

Abuzze, did you discover an unintentional weakness in the Mosquito? Does this mean that the wing will take a hit even if the shots graze the wing, or hit a couple feet above?

Very troubling...

Cheers,

Birdie Num-nums

ploughman
02-09-2006, 01:57 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/mctomney/mossiebug.jpg

You guys getting this? Is this a bug?

horseback
02-09-2006, 02:06 PM
That's a windshield wiper. Check to see if you can assign a keyboard stroke or joystick button to it.

cheers

horseback

Xiolablu3
02-09-2006, 02:07 PM
Its firepower is absolutely amazing. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You can rip up planes adn ground targets alike. Those 4 Hispanos in a line make it hard to miss flak guns and trucks.

I rippped a Ju88 and a A20 up with a half sec burst on each.

Was shot down a little easy tho I thought. Its certainly no Beaufighter in Damagemodel on first impressions. A few 20mm flak hit and I was down.

ploughman
02-09-2006, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by horseback:
That's a windshield wiper. Check to see if you can assign a keyboard stroke or joystick button to it.

cheers

horseback

Cheers mate, see it now!

marc_hawkins
02-09-2006, 03:00 PM
So far all i can say is VROOM! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

ploughman
02-09-2006, 03:10 PM
Did it have shrouded exhausts?

p1ngu666
02-09-2006, 03:13 PM
mossies where tough, they didnt have very low loss rates for a reason http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Akronnick
02-09-2006, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by Abbuzze:
Maybe a small bug at the FB mossie?
There seems to be a hitting surface 2m abouve the wing. Mossiepilots take a look at it.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/p123/bilder/mossie_bug.jpg

Naw, man, they're just usin' proximity fuses!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

(Note to self, Aim High!)

StG2_Schlachter
02-09-2006, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by p1ngu666:
mossies where tough, they didnt have very low loss rates for a reason http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I thought this was because of their speed http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

p1ngu666
02-09-2006, 03:44 PM
speed and toughness http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

they where pretty nimble too

Kuna_
02-09-2006, 04:46 PM
Well I guess @ Abbuze was right...
@ Akronnick this ain't no proximity stuff... it is a bug unfortunately. And not a minor one. "#!?** http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.
Check out the track (on TRK you can see where I (Bf-109) have hit the Mosquito and afterwards it exploded right away). First track is very indicative, while two others are just showing Mosquito weak structure (or MG151 power, put it how you like it).

B sure to have arcade=1 in conf.ini.

BUG :-( (http://free-vk.t-com.hr/domagoj/tracks/offline/403__kunabf109g_vs_mosquito_bug.zip)

@ Abbuze you can send the e-mail to pf@1c.ru.

Taylortony
02-09-2006, 04:47 PM
one thing I have noted is it takes careful handling on approach and speed bleeds off at a heck of a rate when you drop the flaps/barn doors down to the landing configuration......... still makes it all the more worthwile when you get it right......I do like the unsynced guns now, much more realistic on some of the aircraft and you feel like you are walking the rounds onto the target as it should be http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Low_Flyer_MkVb
02-09-2006, 05:21 PM
First impressions:-

Fun...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/il2fb2006-02-1022-27-31-48.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/il2fb2006-02-1022-52-41-20.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/il2fb2006-02-1022-53-23-51.jpg

but fragile...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/il2fb2006-02-1022-27-58-34.jpg

Another piddling little gripe is that the default port side lettering is placed under the rear wing root. Still, daresay the skinners will sort that one out. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ARCHIE_CALVERT
02-09-2006, 05:31 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Devastating€¦

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/AircraftImages01/Mossie00.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/AircraftImages01/Mossie01.jpg

Greenie like the cockpit, he's got something to sit on now and admire the view (Perch on, sorry http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif) And there's plenty of room for him to have a little fly around... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Though he does'nt like it if I change course without telling him first... He's given that canope a hell of a beating with his little head... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

ImpStarDuece
02-09-2006, 05:38 PM
Just a quick question, but does anyone know if the 50 gal external wing tanks on the B Mk IV were standard kit or not?

The in game model has them permanently attached. I have pictures from late 41 and early 1942 of B MK IVs both with and without the external tanks.

Its not really an issue, it's just a bit of a puzzler.

P.S THANK YOU Ian (prangster0 for all you work in modelling the Mosquito. Its fantastic! We are all in your debt!

p1ngu666
02-09-2006, 05:48 PM
they where droptanks, they where a standard feature on late war marks, but u could still drop them... they just often didnt. droptanks are actully made of wood too.

Akronnick
02-09-2006, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Kuna_:
Well I guess @ Abbuze was right...
@ Akronnick this ain't no proximity stuff... it is a bug unfortunately. And not a minor one. "#!?** http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.
Check out the track (on TRK you can see where I (Bf-109) have hit the Mosquito and afterwards it exploded right away). First track is very indicative, while two others are just showing Mosquito weak structure (or MG151 power, put it how you like it).

B sure to have arcade=1 in conf.ini.

BUG :-( (http://free-vk.t-com.hr/domagoj/tracks/offline/403__kunabf109g_vs_mosquito_bug.zip)

@ Abbuze you can send the e-mail to pf@1c.ru.

I knew that, I was just being funny. If bullets are "hitting" were the plane ain't at, that is serious, but even worse, if they aren't hitting were the plane is.

carguy_
02-09-2006, 06:14 PM
http://carguy.w.interia.pl/tracki/mossie.jpg

http://carguy.w.interia.pl/tracki/mossie1.jpg


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

dravisar
02-10-2006, 03:02 AM
pingu? The mosquito tough?! its made outta wood, and gas, sheesh http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Its best defense was its speed. Go out and shoot some rounds through a stack of balsa wood, and a few pop cans, and see what I mean.

stathem
02-10-2006, 03:18 AM
When your mate gets killed, you get the message

"Radio Man Killed"

As a fully paid up member of the Navigators club, I'd be blaady anoyed about being called a "radioman"

Sheesh...any idiot can fly...takes brains to be a Nav.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

OD_79
02-10-2006, 03:30 AM
Only thing I am disapointed with is the lack of rockets, for some reason we can only carry bombs.

OD.

WOLFMondo
02-10-2006, 03:33 AM
The more I fly the mossie the more I like it. High up its such a sweet plane and handles so nicely. Its not the toughest plane but vs any other 42/43 aircraft its performance really shows.

The child in me automatically noticed the default lettering to be pretty funny. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif AR-S.

Anyone got any custom skins for it?

Philipscdrw
02-10-2006, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by OD_79:
Only thing I am disapointed with is the lack of rockets, for some reason we can only carry bombs.

OD.

We will get the rockets and the more powerful Merlin 25s when the Norway map is released, or so I hear in the 'whining Mossie' thread.

stathem
02-10-2006, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by OD_79:
Only thing I am disapointed with is the lack of rockets, for some reason we can only carry bombs.

OD.

OD, (and others) check the 'mossie' thread in ORR, a good 'maybe' in there.

OD_79
02-10-2006, 04:32 AM
Cheers, I don't want to join some whining thread, I do like the plane, I just thought that they would be there, I think it is the only thing missing, though I admit I have only been in it once so far! (didn't have much time last night!)

OD

Hawgdog
02-10-2006, 04:34 AM
@archchie http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
blue world http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Almost even LOL

Kuna_
02-10-2006, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by carguy_:
propaganda

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f193/Kuna_/fb/ac_mosquito_1.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f193/Kuna_/fb/ac_mosquito_2.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f193/Kuna_/fb/ac_mosquito_3.jpg

PBNA-Boosher
02-10-2006, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by Abbuzze:
Maybe a small bug at the FB mossie?
There seems to be a hitting surface 2m abouve the wing. Mossiepilots take a look at it.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/p123/bilder/mossie_bug.jpg

If this is the case, no wonder a German M-boat can take me out in one shot while only using it's 5" guns. They've got a larger target box than the plane itself. Still, not complaining. I got picked off easy, but that M-boat had 3 more Mossie's to deal with, which he never got the chance to...

SnapdLikeAMutha
02-10-2006, 11:14 AM
Is anyone else finding the Mossie a tricky beast to land? It seems ruthlessly determined to drift off to the left and if you touch down even slightly harder than a fly on a poop, the undercart breaks

p1ngu666
02-10-2006, 11:31 AM
flak normaly kills me before i get the chance to land at all http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

it was more difficult to land and takeoff than other planes, should be fine once in the air.

the mossie is great if u fly blue, or know very little about mossies...

if uve read a fair bit about mossies then u think its too slow, feels abit too heavy, slow, wrong ammo loadouts, very very weak, no rockets.

IRL mossies where notable for there speed, generaly awsome handling, lots of ammo, surprisingly tough and being a really good rocket attack aircraft.

the do335 because its lacking mw50, is actully a much better mossie, than the mossie ingame http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

SnapdLikeAMutha
02-10-2006, 11:38 AM
I forgot to mention, conversely enough, it seems to be one of the easiest aircraft to get off the ground - the takeoff is so smooth!

Oh and I've been thus far unable to perform the one-engine climbing rolls which so impressed the Air Ministry officials who witnessed the prototype's first flight http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Abbuzze
02-10-2006, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:


If this is the case, no wonder a German M-boat can take me out in one shot while only using it's 5" guns. They've got a larger target box than the plane itself. Still, not complaining. I got picked off easy, but that M-boat had 3 more Mossie's to deal with, which he never got the chance to...

First I just saw this effect at this special point at the right wing, nowhere else.
And I don´t know what is wrong.I have not time to test, so someone should try it with friendly Mossie and 110 with 4x 7.62mm
There are two possibilites:

1st, an invissible hitting surface above the right wing, don´t know how big, this would be a disatvantage, because even when aiming bad, you can weaken the wing.

2nd, the hitting surface is correct just at the visible wing, but when the plane is hit there, the point of explosion is set 2m higher and no direct hit is calculated. So the Mossie would have an advantage of this, because only fragments are damaging the plane!

I don´t know, so Mossie pilots, it´s on you to test this!

VF51_Flatspin
02-10-2006, 12:57 PM
Clarification: those hits are exactly where I was shooting.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/Flatspin/mos_damage.jpg

Akronnick
02-10-2006, 01:54 PM
Has anyone tried taxiing with the Mossie? I made a landing last night but when I tried to taxi clear of the runway, I was unable to get the thing to turn on the ground, I even tried using one engine at a time to swing the nose around but no luck. What I am wondering is whether the plane is really such a dog on the ground, or if something is FUBAR with my control setup.

Abbuzze
02-10-2006, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by VF51_Flatspin:
Clarification: those hits are exactly where I was shooting.



Good idea http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif please turn on
Arcade=1
in conf.ini then you get the arrows and we will clearly see where the hitbox starts!

SlickStick
02-10-2006, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Kuna_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by carguy_:
propaganda

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f193/Kuna_/fb/ac_mosquito_1.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f193/Kuna_/fb/ac_mosquito_2.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f193/Kuna_/fb/ac_mosquito_3.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now, that's one mighty fine way to rack up an easy 400 points. Use the one plane exploding to explode the 2nd one...hehehe. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

ploughman
02-10-2006, 02:48 PM
That's interesting. I've had about 3 Mossies blow up under me today, and a He-111 that'd been hosing down exploded and took me out with it to, not just damaged and going down, but totally vapourised the pair of us!

SlickStick
02-10-2006, 02:52 PM
I know. Since V4.01 and V4.02 proximity to explosion has been modeled. Some would say a bit "overmodeled".

Back in PF V3.04, you could fly right over a plane exploding and nada. Now, as soon as I see a plane set on fire, I make an immediate 90? or 180? turn away from it, lol. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Low_Flyer_MkVb
02-10-2006, 03:46 PM
O.K. Took a spin a Mustang MkIII - what a sweet ride! Might become my regular choice - anyway, here's what I got for you...Mossies are unarmed rookies in the interests of a quick screenie or two...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/il2fb2006-02-1122-25-12-39.jpg

The MkIV seems fine...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/il2fb2006-02-1122-26-55-17.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/il2fb2006-02-1122-27-02-79.jpg

Platypus_1.JaVA
02-10-2006, 03:56 PM
somebody make some pretty skins for it quickly please http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif It is not that I imply that the default skin is bad...

Low_Flyer_MkVb
02-10-2006, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Platypus_1.JaVA:
somebody make some pretty skins for it quickly please http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif It is not that I imply that the default skin is bad...

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/45410763/m/3041042014 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

mortoma
02-10-2006, 04:37 PM
I'd email Oleg and send him a link to this thread, so he can see the strange invisible surfaces that are getting hit with bullets/shells. That oulw be the best course at this time. Oleg will never see this thread otherwise.

Jester_159th
02-10-2006, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Abbuzze:
Maybe a small bug at the FB mossie?
There seems to be a hitting surface 2m abouve the wing. Mossiepilots take a look at it.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/p123/bilder/mossie_bug.jpg


I haven't had much time to try it out, but have noticed something that could be related to this:

If you end up doing wheels up landing the props don't buckle and the engines keep running with no sign of over heating. Give it full power and it will drag itself slowly across the ground.

The_Gog
02-10-2006, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by msalama:
Just tested it in QMB vs. 4 ace He-111's. Got them pwned http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif albeit not without nicks, scratches and worse http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

This is one beautiful - and murderous!!! - babe, B sure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

Yeah, shooting down 4 AI Heinkels makes you reeeeaaaal good! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

FritzGryphon
02-10-2006, 08:32 PM
Here you can see more clearly the errant collision mesh for the Mosquito. After a good hosing from a Hurri IIb. Area over right wing (image was flipped for easier viewing).

It is only on the 1942 version, btw. At least you can use the 1941 version until patch 4.04 comes out http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://members.shaw.ca/fennec/moss.jpg

fighter_966
02-11-2006, 04:23 AM
Tested Mossie last night I like it more than Beau and Me110 Its nicer to fly and esier to
strafe things THANKS OLEG FOR THE PATCH!!

Z4K
02-11-2006, 08:23 AM
http://users.tpg.com.au/izaak/misc/Moquit-doh.jpg

It's odd that, unlike Fritz, I didn't get anything over the port wing.

Also, the shaded areas are pretty much the extent of the hit area. You can get bullets between the ghost hitbox and the wing. I wonder if it's the same from the front (thinking like video polys are only rendered from one side - clearly I have no idea how the hitboxes are implemented).

Z4K
02-11-2006, 07:53 PM
It's odd that, unlike Kuna_, I clearly didn't read Fritz's post properly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Stupid me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Tully__
02-12-2006, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by Z4K:
http://users.tpg.com.au/izaak/misc/Moquit-doh.jpg

It's odd that, unlike Fritz, I didn't get anything over the port wing.

Also, the shaded areas are pretty much the extent of the hit area. You can get bullets between the ghost hitbox and the wing. I wonder if it's the same from the front (thinking like video polys are only rendered from one side - clearly I have no idea how the hitboxes are implemented).

Same on the stationary aircraft model (the one used for ground scenery).

msalama
02-12-2006, 04:38 AM
Yeah, shooting down 4 AI Heinkels makes you reeeeaaaal good! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Never thought of it that way, but OK, if you insist.

I posted my comment because I think this bird is lovely, and thus have/had good feelings towards it. You have a problem with that?

You know, I sometimes think I spam too much on these boards. And heck, maybe I do. But a**eholes like _you_ with their s**te-for-brains comments like this are seemingly even MORE laughable than me, so maybe I _don't_ have anything to worry about really http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif