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Extreme_One
12-31-2003, 04:42 AM
As per the Gamestop site at:-
http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?cookie%5Ftest=1&product%5Fid=645593
http://www.gamestop.com/common/images/lbox/645593bm.jpg
Short Description.
IL-2 Sturmovik: Forgotten Battles Ace Expansion yet again puts you into a cockpit over the war-torn skies of Germany and Russia during World War II, where you fly accurately designed and realistically modeled aircraft in stunning 3-D environments. The numerous action-packed single-player missions involve air-to-air and air-to-ground missions, as well as search, destroy, and escort objectives. Up to 32 human opponents can experience multiplayer action over the Internet or a LAN.



* New Flyable Aircraft

* New Non-Flyable Aircraft

* 3 Unexplored Environments

* 20 New Single Missions

* 7 New Dynamic Campaigns

* 10 New Co-op Multiplayer Missions

* New AI Ground Objects for Each New Map Area

* Improvements in Flight Dynamics

* Ranking and Award Campaign System

* Redesign of AI


According to the site its Pre-Release ETA: 2/2/2004
Sounds good doesn't it?

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Extreme_One
12-31-2003, 04:42 AM
As per the Gamestop site at:-
http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?cookie%5Ftest=1&product%5Fid=645593
http://www.gamestop.com/common/images/lbox/645593bm.jpg
Short Description.
IL-2 Sturmovik: Forgotten Battles Ace Expansion yet again puts you into a cockpit over the war-torn skies of Germany and Russia during World War II, where you fly accurately designed and realistically modeled aircraft in stunning 3-D environments. The numerous action-packed single-player missions involve air-to-air and air-to-ground missions, as well as search, destroy, and escort objectives. Up to 32 human opponents can experience multiplayer action over the Internet or a LAN.



* New Flyable Aircraft

* New Non-Flyable Aircraft

* 3 Unexplored Environments

* 20 New Single Missions

* 7 New Dynamic Campaigns

* 10 New Co-op Multiplayer Missions

* New AI Ground Objects for Each New Map Area

* Improvements in Flight Dynamics

* Ranking and Award Campaign System

* Redesign of AI


According to the site its Pre-Release ETA: 2/2/2004
Sounds good doesn't it?

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SpinSpinSugar
12-31-2003, 04:46 AM
Ach, I thought you were about to release your English Voice pack there http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Still, good news that it's coming, eh - even to see a speculative release date.

Cheers,

SSS

Extreme_One
12-31-2003, 04:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SpinSpinSugar:
Ach, I thought you were about to release your English Voice pack there http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Still, good news that it's coming, eh - even to see a speculative release date.

Cheers,

SSS<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The RAF campaign WILL be out before the add-on! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
The campaign folder and "The Battle over Britain" campaign is finished, we're just waiting for the voices which I reckon are about 98% complete.
Not long to wait now guys...

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tenmmike
12-31-2003, 04:51 AM
if it says ai improvment in the ace pact what do ya think v1.22 is about?

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Extreme_One
12-31-2003, 04:52 AM
I reckon 1.22 is gonna be part of the addon.
So you're gonna have to pay to fly online...

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tenmmike
12-31-2003, 05:04 AM
now you dont believe that..... aint gonna be any pay to fly on line...may be it just keeps the ai in inline relitive to what the expansion pack as a whole is gonna do

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LeadSpitter_
12-31-2003, 05:23 AM
Improved flight dynamics and 3 new unexplored areas = 3 new maps http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

That has to be the ugliest box cover and bad name the ace expansion.

Throw the tempest and spit on the cover and it will sell like hotcakes

"The forgotten battles forgottens" is a better title

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SeaFireLIV
12-31-2003, 05:27 AM
Very nice. Who cares about the cover. It`s the content that matters! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Then again i did expect to see a Spit on the front. Maybe it`s just a working cover...

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TX-Zen
12-31-2003, 05:28 AM
At least it's coming though...any wagers on the exact date actually being 2 Feb?

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robban75
12-31-2003, 05:34 AM
I waited 2 years for LOMAC, I think I can wait 2 months for my Ta 152! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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nutt3r
12-31-2003, 05:34 AM
excellent news thanx mate http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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essemm
12-31-2003, 05:55 AM
For me, the most exciting feature listed is the redesign of the AI. Please, oh please Wingman AI, stop shooting me!

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LeadSpitter_
12-31-2003, 06:20 AM
I waited for lockon as well and was disapointed and the only flight sim i ever returned. I have been watching the development the il2 exp planes from il2 sturmovik on il2center for too long where i dont care anymore i even stopped checking netwings because all the delays and will just buy it when ever its out and am confident it will be great and not a lomac dissapointment.

what im concerned about is I hope ubi makes an all ai patch for those who dont buy il2 aces so it doesnt cause a multiple versions problem on HL like thier sloppy release of patches have previously.

People who buy the expansion should be able to use the flyables with people who dont buy the expansion addon. "of course they would not have the option to fly them but see the exp planes as AI only" But ubi definatly does not have the wits for something like that.

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tenmmike
12-31-2003, 06:23 AM
leadspitter maybe thats what v1.22 is

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WUAF_Badsight
12-31-2003, 06:36 AM
ok to use new anything requiers a new version of FB

ppl flying with all add-on stuff loaded into their FB game on their computer will have a different version than non ADD-ON players


i dont know where you thought that their was a patch comming when you all have knowen for quite some time that there was the ADD-ON looming

there never was any AI patch

for the short term .... just this expansion



& BTW .... you have been especially negative toward UBI & Maddox games lately LeadSplitter ... i mean more than normal lol ,,, whys that ?



theres no way new content could play online with FB V1.21

it requires a SFS Files file update ....... & theres a conflict all on its own & thats just the start

basically you should buy the expansion anyway

it would be silly not too considering the content

if i was UBI & i then released a whole new load of content for all , id be blowen away that ppl would complain about compatibility issues considering how much more fun all this new content is going to be

WUAF_Badsight
12-31-2003, 06:39 AM
wheres my manners ....



THX for the heads up Extreme_One

Kirin_9.JG54
12-31-2003, 06:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>...those who dont buy il2 aces...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I bet that won't be too many (speaking of HL addicts). Hey, we got so much for free (planes, maps etc.) it's time we support 1C again!

IL2:FB isn't perfect - I am really pi**ed off at it sometimes - but it's the best out there and steadily improving (more or less - hint: O.M., don't listen to the whiners!). Looking forward to the expansion and of course BoB!!!

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Future-
12-31-2003, 07:44 AM
I just bought a new PC games magazine and on it's cover DVD, there are screenshots of a game called

BATTLE OVER EUROPE

- I checked the screenies out, and although there weren't any new planes, it was definitely the Forgotten Battles add-on. Screenies show a battle between a huge US B-17 bomber formation escorted by P-51s on one side and numerous 190s and 109s on the other, intercepting the formation and flying high-alt turn combat.

So now we know the true name of the expansion (at least for the german version) - "Battle over Europe".

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p1ngu666
12-31-2003, 08:21 AM
nah thats a different one?
aces is a crap name
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oFZo
12-31-2003, 08:29 AM
That name is 'not good' to say the least http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
(OK, it SUCKS!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

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Dunkelgrun
12-31-2003, 08:44 AM
Thanks for the info Simon. Anyone got an idea where the 3 new 'environments' (maps?) are?
Cheers!

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DONB3397
12-31-2003, 08:46 AM
Thanks, Extreme, for birddoging this. Went to the url and it looks like Gamestop is taking pre-release orders against the 2/2 date. Good.

In the meantime, keep us posted on the release date for the RAF Campaign. The Add-on will give us new a/c for your missions, I suspect.

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WUAF_Badsight
12-31-2003, 09:24 AM
actually that has nothing to do with the 1C Maddox games expansion for FB

its a product for FB yes but it has nothing to do with our eagerly awaited expansion

the official add-on is called "Aces" so it seems

comes across as a little lacking in imagination but ho well , who cares as long as it gets here ! ! ! !



<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Future-:
I just bought a new PC games magazine and on it's cover DVD, there are screenshots of a game called

BATTLE OVER EUROPE

- I checked the screenies out, and although there weren't any new planes, it was definitely the Forgotten Battles add-on.So now we know the true name of the expansion (at least for the german version) - "Battle over Europe".

S!- Future<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Aeronautico
12-31-2003, 09:33 AM
There are three add-ons planned the year to come, plus a possible fourth one (from 1C/UBI):

1. The official Expansion Pack (I doubt it will be called ACE, and surely the cover will be different: can't you read "for display purposes only"?!). It will include the improvements you read about, and a new map should be K√¬∂nigsberg (nowadays' Kaliningrad). I bet 1.22 will be out before that.
2. The "Battle over Europe" add-on by Just Flight and Luthier/Starshoy, endorsed by 1C, that will include new dynamic campaign improvements (including an on-line camapaign system), new AI formation flights (the "boxed" B-17 that are not currently available), new skins, campaigns and missions, and will focus on the Western front. Most of the stuff appeared in 1.2 was actually developed with this add-on in mind.
3. The Luthier's project, an entirely new project scheduled for end of the year which will add new theatres, planes, features to FB, about the same way FB added to IL-2. It is planned to be a stand-alone product apparently, but working with FB the same way EECH worked with EEAH, for the ones in the know.
4. Another official add-on, which may be and may be not for pay. Or exhisting at all. It depends on the first add-on sale figures, obviously.

Then, of course, BoB with expantions and follow-ons (other projects like Luthier's in the while, should BoB be delayed?)...


Everything's clear now?

Aero out

Platypus_1.JaVA
12-31-2003, 09:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Extreme_One:
I reckon 1.22 is gonna be part of the addon.
So you're gonna have to pay to fly online...

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That would pretty much kill the game (for me)

Anyways, a redesigned AI? Hmmm, a redesigned sound engine would be better.

Anyways, i'm still buying the add-on http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Platypus_1.JaVA
12-31-2003, 09:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aeronautico:
There are three add-ons planned the year to come, plus a possible fourth one (from 1C/UBI):

1. The official Expansion Pack (I doubt it will be called ACE, and surely the cover will be different: can't you read "for display purposes only"?!). It will include the improvements you read about, and a new map should be K√¬∂nigsberg (nowadays' Kaliningrad). I bet 1.22 will be out before that.
2. The "Battle over Europe" add-on by Just Flight and Luthier/Starshoy, endorsed by 1C, that will include new dynamic campaign improvements (including an on-line camapaign system), new AI formation flights (the "boxed" B-17 that are not currently available), new skins, campaigns and missions, and will focus on the Western front. Most of the stuff appeared in 1.2 was actually developed with this add-on in mind.
3. The Luthier's project, an entirely new project scheduled for end of the year which will add new theatres, planes, features to FB, about the same way FB added to IL-2. It is planned to be a stand-alone product apparently, but working with FB the same way EECH worked with EEAH, for the ones in the know.
4. Another official add-on, which may be and may be not for pay. Or exhisting at all. It depends on the first add-on sale figures, obviously.

Then, of course, BoB with expantions and follow-ons (other projects like Luthier's in the while, should BoB be delayed?)...


Everything's clear now?

Aero out<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

DANG, this is getting complicated...

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Jaws2002
12-31-2003, 10:58 AM
If Ta-152 and BF-110 G2 is there I'll get two copies. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

noshens
12-31-2003, 11:08 AM
and Pre-Release
ETA was moved to: 2/18/04 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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necrobaron
12-31-2003, 11:38 AM
So where is Konigsberg and what happened there? I remember IanBoys saying that map might be included in the new add-on. Excuse my ignorance,but can anyone enlighten me?http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

zoomar2
12-31-2003, 11:55 AM
Who cares what the name is as long as we get it. I can't wait!

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12-31-2003, 12:40 PM
Very good news thanks http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif!

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12-31-2003, 01:10 PM
"Battle over Europe" is a Separate, 3rd party, product...for FB...It offers new Campaigns, etc...

It is being done by some of the best people who have been GIVING their 3rd party FREE additions to IL2 and FB for a couple of years...I look forward to BUYing it!

It is NOT the Expansion Pack!...Which I Also am anxious to BUY!

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LW_lcarp
12-31-2003, 01:32 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by TX-Zen:
At least it's coming though...any wagers on the exact date actually being 2 Feb?


LOL just looked at the site with this add on and it says Feb 18. So as far as wagers no thanks ill pass

Copperhead310th
12-31-2003, 02:02 PM
Yeah but your still gonna buy it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I'm getting it. I'm also getting the Add on from Luthier/Starshoy. Unlike the barbossa 3rd party add on for FB this gonna be a little bit more than missions & skins. No new planes but they've been talking about an Online multi player campain. that's gonna be very cool. Screw the missions & skins....i just want the multi player campain.
That's due out in Jan.
So we've got 2 addons comming in the 1st part of 2004. It's going to be a very happy new year for us FB guys. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Oh & Simon.. could you please get that damn Englishman outa my control tower?!? he don't belong there! lol we're flying the PTO map. I try to pretend he's an Aussie... but he just sounds too ummmm Proper. Very well Cheerio. hahahaha.

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Old_Canuck
12-31-2003, 02:13 PM
Thank you, Extreme_One for this heads up and in fact for ALL your positive contributions to the community.

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NTESLA
12-31-2003, 02:16 PM
Not to worry Copperhead,

On the RAF voice pack that will be included in the RAF B.o.B campaign you and everyone else will have a South African as your control tower! Australian, English and South African as Bomber squads. Canadian, Irish, English and New Zealanders as your wingmen!

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NTESLA
12-31-2003, 06:21 PM
RAF Voice Pack for Extreme One's B.o.B campaign 95% complete. Almost there!

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adlabs6
12-31-2003, 08:39 PM
I wonder if you'll have to purchase all these addons to continue to play online? For example...If I wait on buying the upgrade Extreme_One has detailed until I find out what I'm getting from others here (I mean worth my while considering how little I play FB now), and I deceide to pass on it... Will I have to buy it anyway to use the Battle for Europe addon, which I think I would find much more interesting? And what about the later addons, if any? Again do I have to purchase all the upgrades and install them (like patches in the right order) to use say, the dynamic online campaign?

Only time will tell.

The AI upgrade sounds best to me, and the new maps, of all that's listed on the first addon, though.

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WUAF_Badsight
12-31-2003, 10:30 PM
if the Host has v1.22 (expansion FB)

you will need it too

cant join v1.11 rooms as a FB v1.21 player now can we

Troll2k
12-31-2003, 11:56 PM
EB games has it shipping on 2/18/04 for $29.99 usd.

VMF-214_HaVoK
01-01-2004, 12:29 AM
No pic on ebgames.com but here is the promo quote UBI gave them:

THE BAR GET'S RAISED YET AGAIN...
IL-2 Sturmovik was a benchmark WWII flight sim, Forgotten Battles only added to that legacy, this add-on will continue the tradition of excellence from a developer who seems to know no other way to approach his work. With the inclusion of some of the more well known planes like several varients of the P-51, Spitfires, and P-38, Forgotten Battles will move the original game from an Easternfront only game, to cover some of the more well known battles of western Europe as well. For any fan of WWII games, this will be a must have addition to your library.
&lt;br&gt;
Notice this text to all those who keep saying that FB is eastern front only -- "Forgotten Battles will move the original game from an Easternfront only game, to cover some of the more well known battles of western Europe as well." So no more whining about new planes being added...ok http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Extreme_One
01-02-2004, 06:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Badsight:
if the Host has v1.22 (expansion FB)

you will need it too

cant join v1.11 rooms as a FB v1.21 player now can we<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's all I meant when I said you'll have to pay to fly online. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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NTESLA
01-02-2004, 07:34 AM
RAF Voice Pack 99% Complete....

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p1ngu666
01-02-2004, 07:39 AM
cant wait
bit of a mess over the expanision packs tho :|