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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 08:06 PM
Any one know?

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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 08:06 PM
Any one know?

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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 08:09 PM
controlled stall is kind of an oxymoron, but every pilot in training goes though stall recovery practice. A backslide is a stall maneuver.

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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 08:10 PM
any videos?

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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 08:12 PM
Could you be more precise?
If you rfer to som type of hammerhead (climb at 90 degree until you stall, and then roll over and dive on the enemy behind you), dunno, maybe, I did that this morning in a 109 to trick 2 p-39, chasing me, so who knows, as long as is posible, maybe it had a purpose an was used, but could you explain your question tough?

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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 08:16 PM
Von_Zero wrote:
- Could you be more precise?
- If you rfer to som type of hammerhead (climb at 90
- degree until you stall, and then roll over and dive
- on the enemy behind you),

Yeah like that.Take the aircraft to the limit."stall" like manuvers.

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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 08:20 PM
Perhaps in one versus one dogfight.

But in an area with many enemy fighters, I seriously doubt it. A clever fighter pilot would always prefer to keep energy and altitude, not to make funky circus-Barnum aerobatics like the AI-aircrafts of FB.

To say the truth, I find that all the aircrafts in FB (reds and blues, it's not a bias theory) are too agile, when compared to real camera movies or what I remember from the Vampire (a true WWII design which flew until 1991 in Swiss) during my military service as AA gunner.

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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 08:21 PM
stall:The sudden, unintended loss of power or effectiveness in an engine.
A condition in which an aircraft or airfoil experiences an interruption of airflow resulting in loss of lift and a tendency to drop.



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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 08:22 PM
Ty all

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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 08:42 PM
no video - but a nettrack

The big drop (d/l and unzip to records dir under FB)

hehe controlled stall from 10000m
- done better /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif -

no combat manouvre - but it gets ya down real fast without picking up too much speed...



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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 09:04 PM
Hey Thank/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 09:37 PM
From the battle-report of Peter Crump 10./JG54,23.January 45. In a group of 30 Doras they where capping the area around M√ľnster when they spotted a group of Tempest from 274.Squadron.

"Dortenmann was leading the formation in 20.000 feet when i saw bandits on port side and reported it. I was already begining the attack, which i also reported to Dortenmann. I turned into the enemy group, but suddenly i lost contact with Dortenmann and the rest of the group. Instead i found myself alone with my wingman in the middle of a "hornests nest" 8-10 Tempest. In the following seconds we tried to climb away from them, but they were following us in a matter, that i wouldn't have thought possible. I thought i was sitting in a "Stiegliz" (German school a/c Fw44) Finaly i didn't know nothing else to do then to go into a stall. Over the FT i shouted "stall away" to Goos, then i pushed the stick into the stomach and got into a deliberat stall. For the first it was difficult for the enemy to dive after you and futhermore you gave a very difficult target. Quite often the enemy also would think you where hit. I had used this trick quite often over the Channel against Spitfires, as a last resort. You then could easyly pull out, by letting go of all countrolls and applying full throttle. This manovre Ofw. Goos obviosly couldn't handle, and i lost him. I could rescue myself in the last seconds...."

XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 10:56 PM
Nice story.
So it is TRUE!

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