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raaaid
08-05-2006, 08:35 AM
im smoking a cigarrete as i write this down and i would like to quit but dont have enough will

any advice plz?

raaaid
08-05-2006, 08:35 AM
im smoking a cigarrete as i write this down and i would like to quit but dont have enough will

any advice plz?

Frankenstein000
08-05-2006, 08:42 AM
Nicotime gum is useless, but I've had some good sucess with the patch. 20+ year pack a day smoker and the patch took away the cravings for me (just had to beat the "habbit" of smoking after that if you know what I mean).

Good luck and stick with it. It only takes one smoke and you're right back where you started.

Like the old saying goes; "Quitting's easy, I've done it a hundred times..."

WarWolfe_1
08-05-2006, 08:43 AM
I use to be a pack and a half a day smoker. I haven't quiet quit yet, I'm down to about a pack a week. By the end of this month I will quiet completely.

I think its a mind power thing and you have to fight the urge. I stay busy, I'm always doing something. I don't smoke in the in house because of the kids, nor the car for the very same reason. I use to but have noticed since I quit doing that my kids health is far greater. No earaches, runny noses (well they still have my allergys), or coughing.

Mackane1
08-05-2006, 09:28 AM
I quit successfully by using the patch.

...or...Google "diseased lung" and click "images".

PBNA-Boosher
08-05-2006, 09:41 AM
My science teacher used to smoke 2 and a half packs a day. He used the patch AND coffee to quit. Now he's just addicted to coffee.

heywooood
08-05-2006, 09:50 AM
think of what it will be like in a few years - dragging around your oxygen bottle and coughing hard enough to crack a rib at times....you'll quit...oh yeah most people don't think ahead. nevermind.

Smoking is satisfying.

F6_Ace
08-05-2006, 09:50 AM
I used to smoke for about 6 months a long time ago. I quit by smoking cigars like cigarettes.

After a week, I detested the taste of cigs and that was it.

Having said that, I might cadge the odd *** (English expression!) after a heavy session on the ale.

WeeRapscallion
08-05-2006, 10:27 AM
First off all you have got to want to quit.
I went and saw my local GP who put me in touch with the NHS no smoking clinic. I saw someone there and we went through the reasons why I started smoking in the first place, why I smoked now and the reasons why I would like to give up among other things.
The key is preparation, setting a quitting day and sticking to it. I used patches and dealt with one day at a time. It actually wasn't that hard in the end. I used to smoke 40 a day and have now been a non-smoker for 18 months - I've never looked back.

http://www.givingupsmoking.co.uk/

p-11.cAce
08-05-2006, 12:19 PM
I was a pack - 1 1/2 pack a day smoker for 10 years (15-25 yrs old). Heart disease runs in my family and I quit after attending an uncles funeral and realizing that I too could end up there far too soon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif So I gathered up all my cigs, lighters, etc and trashed everything - no gum, patches,etc just cold turkey. It sucked horribly for a month, less so after two, not too bad after 3 and after 4 months I basically considered myself no longer addicted. I still get cravings (7 years later) but have not started again. I assume that, like alcohol, the cravings will never be truly resolved. Good luck to anyone who is quitting and don't beat yourself up if you fall off the wagon. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Dew-Claw
08-05-2006, 12:43 PM
Forget all those unproven methods and go with mine.
It may not waork as well but its a million times more enjoyable.

Every time you want a smoke, have sex instead, preferably with a willing partner.

Of course as soon as your done you'll want a smoke....
so have sex again.
Keep this cycle going and sooner or later.....
your to exhasted to smoke.

blairgowrie
08-05-2006, 12:44 PM
I was a two large pack a day man for many years and finally quit cold turkey. Not one puff since and the craving finally went away. Sometimes I will dream that I have started again and get disgusted with myself in the dream. Then I wake up and realise it was only a dream and feel so relieved.

Today, knowing that I was able to stop, I often wonder why I did not have the courage to do it many years earlier. Let me tell you, you will pay for it in later life in ways you just can't imagine now.

heywooood
08-05-2006, 12:45 PM
ignore my earlier post - and good luck to everyone that wants to quit smoking.

I almost started when I was a kid. Luckily I hated it more than I wanted to fit in.

You only start thinkng about 'quality of life' after its almost too late to make a difference.
Smoking makes a huge difference - emphezima? and heart failure made my dad miserable before he died.

VonKlugermon
08-05-2006, 12:53 PM
Wanting to quit is the first thing and health issues are the biggest reason to quit. It really helps to hang around with friends that don't smoke and are not afraid to pester you about it. At first, try to quit for two-three weeks at a stretch. Notice how different and nice your clothes begin to smell and how bad your house and car (if you smoke in them) stink. It was a real eye-opener for me (after I quit) to go out on the town, smelling real nice, then come home and smell the cigarettes from the clubs I had visited. Yuk! Imagine that smell and worse in your lungs!

Good luck!

Willy

steve_v
08-05-2006, 01:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raaaid:
im smoking a cigarrete as i write this down and i would like to quit

any advice plz? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Find what works for you and stay with it. I stopped cold turkey, but that was years ago. Others have used gum, patches, and even church groups. Remember, nicotine is an addictive substance, so it is common to go back to smoking before finally quitting. It has nothing to do with a lack of will.

Good luck on quitting.

horseback
08-05-2006, 01:57 PM
I was able to quit several times over the course of 8 years.

I had my last smoke some time in 1980, and more than anything, I was finally able to taper off. I just found it easier to put that next cigarette off for another hour, then for two hours, then for a day, and then finally, I realized just how God-awful a stale cigarette tastes, and how much a new pack costs (they were up to almost 75 cents a pack at the PX in 1980...), and I eventually stopped buying packs, and not too long after that, I stopped borrowing an occasional smoke from friends.

Food tastes better, I can smell things (not always a desirable state), my health is better, morning mouth is no longer a problem involving the EPA, and there are no little burn marks in all my clothes or furnishings.

Hang in there. It's worth it.

cheers

horseback

BrotherVoodoo
08-05-2006, 02:16 PM
Today is my quit day. I am on the way out to get some patches. Wish me luck. I've been a pack a day for 20 years. You can do it to buddy.

StellarRat
08-05-2006, 02:25 PM
Zyban...it works! Go see your doctor.

cawimmer430
08-05-2006, 02:27 PM
Try to stay away from it for 4 weeks.

Apparently, the human body looses its cravings for something after 4 weeks. Read that on focus.de. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I know it is easier said than done, but I guess if you want to live longer, give it a try.

Good luck!

Targ
08-05-2006, 02:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raaaid:
im smoking a cigarrete as i write this down and i would like to quit but dont have enough will

any advice plz? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It has been almost a year for me and I used Zayban and that stuff really helps. Plan ahead and set a date and stick to it, you wont regret it!
It is hard at first but you will get past that and than only now and then will you get the urge.
Good luck to you!

leitmotiv
08-05-2006, 03:00 PM
I quit in 1997 after smoking heavily since 1970. I tried everything: several rounds of hypnosis, acupuncture, Zyban, special filters, cold turkey, patches, and several types of gum. The Nicorette gum (and profound self-disgust) worked best for me---but I used the gum for five years (except for a six-month relapse) until I was, at last, able to give up nic in 2002.

Flyby_99
08-05-2006, 03:24 PM
I quit cold turkey back in '90. I'd tried to quit several times before, but I wasn't committed to quiting. It was too easy to give in to the familiarity of it all. But finally I got fed up with making excuses for why I'd sit on the can and smoke, mow the lawn while smoking, ask for a smoking section in a resturant,and countless other scenarios where I had to be able to light up. It's really bad when you stop in the local store and the clerk automatically reaches for your brand.
I realized I was "owned". So I prepared to quit. I knew I'd be facing withdrawal symptoms, and just made up my mind I'd overcome them. I did. At first it felt like a dragon trying to claw it's way out of my chest. But eventually the dragon got weak, and finally died. I haven't smoked since. Also, no more hack-coughing myself to sleep, no more "hawking" a pound of mucous each morning, no more seeing the wife suffer passive smoke, no more closet (or car) that smells of cigarettes. It really is a filthy habit. Good luck in cutting it loose. Use the savings to upgrade for SoW_BoB. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Flyby out

clayman_52
08-05-2006, 04:01 PM
Best of luck to all .... tought I'd share something that may help those trying to quit.

I've never talked about it much except to friends because I thought it was stupid ... but after 11 years of not smoking, maybe not.

Speaking as an ex-two pack a day smoker for over 15 years ... Steve, WeeRapscallion and so many others have the right advice.

Like many I tried quitting 3 or 4 times. Funny, but the last couple of times I noticed myself holding pencils and pens like a cigarette at work more and more up to the point where I'd give in. So the next time I wanted to quit I walked out and bought a pack of Pal Mal reds (no filter). When I felt the urge to "hold" a cigarette I did ... days and weeks into it when I wanted a smoke ... I did. I'd take a unlit Pal Mal and inhale it just like I was smoking. Granted ... it looked stupid.

But it worked.

Before that pack of Pal Mals was used up it was 30 days ... then 60 ... then 10 years and I can't remember the day I quite. Only that it was after spring break.

I tried using the patch. I tried cutting back. I tried Poking holes in my smokes. I tried support groups and on my own I figured out it was NOT just the nicotine but the oral fixation that was doing me in and that's when I came up with my insane idea.

Those first few months my Marlboro's were all still in my house and car, my wife continued to smoke, I still partied with my friends that all smoked ... but I had my "safety net" LOL.

Now all but two of my friends have quit for over 5 years ... and my wife of 16 years still smokes. Yup, that made it tougher.

You see I really, really wanted to quit each of those times. And like each I woke up another morning and said the same thing "I'm tired of this!" But this time those straights got me through ... even tasted good, must have been the bit of nicotine.

I chose to keep my enemy close ... and all kinds of things came back I didn't know I was missing. Of course your lung capacity, but food and drink, run and play longer, I look younger, less colds, smells are outrageous. I didn't know what I was missing.

Yes, it is tough. Find what you need ... use any trick in the book. It is worth it, you just don't fully know it till ya get there.

I'm 56. I quit when I was 45.


---Flyby 99, your right. I forgot. I saved over $2000 a year. I also used a new box as a hook ... built 3 the first 5 years. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

F16_Neo
08-05-2006, 05:18 PM
In sweden we got this nasty "snus" stuff... its kinda moist fermented salty tobacco powder to put under upper-lip, kinda grouse, but a fun thing to offer foreigners http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. Anyway this thing is a bit more addictive than cigs, but less dangerous, atleast to lungs. Managed to quit 9 years ago now, but still feel the urge every now & then..
Just quit & good luck http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bearcat99
08-05-2006, 09:27 PM
I used a patch for like... the first week.. by then I was able to wean myself from that.... I bvasically got tired of wheezing up a flight of stairs... Not to mention the smell, and the expense didnt hurt either...

WskyStr8
08-05-2006, 09:43 PM
I was a 35 a day smoker for 30 odd years 'til about 9 years ago. Went to a lung specialist who told me I only had about 40% lung capacity left. I quit the same day and haven't had a smoke since. Still get the cravings now and then though.

WWMaxGunz
08-05-2006, 09:56 PM
My bro kept a small aspirin tin with the butt of the last cig he smoked.
When he wanted another he would take that out and smell it while thinking about the pictures
and all he was shown, what the smoke does to you.
15 years of filling ashtrays at work and he quit that way.

I never smoked that sh_t. My father was up to 5-6 packs a day (Kents) when I was a kid and
I had to do the respect thing and sit there and breathe like nothing while he'd talk with
what seemed every breath he took a deep drag. It got me bronchitis and he kept going, his
right he needed it for his nerves, etc. Before I started school I knew I wouldn't smoke.
I have no idea what about the stuff makes anyone cool unless stupid = cool to them.

Ratsack
08-05-2006, 10:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raaaid:
im smoking a cigarrete as i write this down and i would like to quit but dont have enough will

any advice plz? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Try a mob called Smoke Enders (tm). They're an American company, but they're franchised around the place. I used them to quit in 1998, and haven't looked back.

I smoked 50 a day. So did my wife, and if couldn't quit at the same time, forget it. Smoke Enders involves no drugs or hypnotism, no religion or other 'motivational' cr@pola. It just deals with the addiction, and the habit. Frankly, the first bit is the easy part, it's the habit that is the killer.

It works by a series of exercises based on plain old good psychology. They make you hate the habit so much you can't wait to stop.

The course takes seven weeks, and you quit at the end of the fifth. By the end of the fourth you WANT to stop, but they recommend you don't: seriously. I heard them say this on the first night of the course and I thought, 'Yeah, right, polish my purple one,' but three weeks later I had to admit they were right. Nobody was more gobsmacked than I.

It cost about $350 Australian back in 1998. Best $350 I've ever spent.

cheers,
Ratsack

Stackhouse25th
08-05-2006, 10:20 PM
Le mort

leitmotiv
08-05-2006, 10:32 PM
I just remembered my most classic post-quitting nicotine fit. I had quit cold turkey and I was into around my third month. I was eating at a restaurant with a knock-out blond 20 years my junior. There was a huge plate glass window behind her, and a sprinkler was running, but it was malfunctioning. The spray was hitting the window at full force and creating (in my feverish nicotine-craving brain) the very image of a huge cloud of cig smoke. We sat there for over an hour chatting while I stared at the pseudo cloud getting progressively more and more ravenous for nicotine. Later, I went home and was up for hours with stomach cramps from nic depravation. Drug experts claim nicotine is harder to kick than heroin---I can vouch for it. Went back to smoking shortly after this. Only the gum removed the stomach cramps and allowed me to quit.

Udidtoo
08-06-2006, 07:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by clayman_52:
Best of luck to all .... tought I'd share something that may help those trying to quit.

I've never talked about it much except to friends because I thought it was stupid ... but after 11 years of not smoking, maybe not.

Speaking as an ex-two pack a day smoker for over 15 years ... Steve, WeeRapscallion and so many others have the right advice.

Like many I tried quitting 3 or 4 times. Funny, but the last couple of times I noticed myself holding pencils and pens like a cigarette at work more and more up to the point where I'd give in. So the next time I wanted to quit I walked out and bought a pack of Pal Mal reds (no filter). When I felt the urge to "hold" a cigarette I did ... days and weeks into it when I wanted a smoke ... I did. I'd take a unlit Pal Mal and inhale it just like I was smoking. Granted ... it looked stupid.

But it worked.

Before that pack of Pal Mals was used up it was 30 days ... then 60 ... then 10 years and I can't remember the day I quite. Only that it was after spring break.

I tried using the patch. I tried cutting back. I tried Poking holes in my smokes. I tried support groups and on my own I figured out it was NOT just the nicotine but the oral fixation that was doing me in and that's when I came up with my insane idea.

Those first few months my Marlboro's were all still in my house and car, my wife continued to smoke, I still partied with my friends that all smoked ... but I had my "safety net" LOL.

Now all but two of my friends have quit for over 5 years ... and my wife of 16 years still smokes. Yup, that made it tougher.

You see I really, really wanted to quit each of those times. And like each I woke up another morning and said the same thing "I'm tired of this!" But this time those straights got me through ... even tasted good, must have been the bit of nicotine.

I chose to keep my enemy close ... and all kinds of things came back I didn't know I was missing. Of course your lung capacity, but food and drink, run and play longer, I look younger, less colds, smells are outrageous. I didn't know what I was missing.

Yes, it is tough. Find what you need ... use any trick in the book. It is worth it, you just don't fully know it till ya get there.

I'm 56. I quit when I was 45.


---Flyby 99, your right. I forgot. I saved over $2000 a year. I also used a new box as a hook ... built 3 the first 5 years. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't think it was stupid at all. You gave your mind and the hand that was used to holding a smoke something to do.

Smoked over 25 years. When I decided to quit I snuffed the last one in the last pack I had out on the front steps went inside and grabbed some toothpicks. When ever the urge got to be to much I reached up over my ear, grabbed a toothpick and it was ok after that. 5+ years now and no smokes. Got a horrible toothpick habit though. Go through the 250 count box in a month or less. Trying to switch to the plastic minty ones. Gotta think green you know.

Feathered_IV
08-07-2006, 04:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cawimmer430:
Try to stay away from it for 4 weeks.

Apparently, the human body looses its cravings for something after 4 weeks. Read that on focus.de. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I know it is easier said than done, but I guess if you want to live longer, give it a try.

Good luck! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Took me two years before my cravings went away (cold turkey too).
Better than an ugly, humiliating and expensive death though .

SeaFireLIV
08-07-2006, 04:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WWMaxGunz:
My bro kept a small aspirin tin with the butt of the last cig he smoked.
When he wanted another he would take that out and smell it while thinking about the pictures
and all he was shown, what the smoke does to you.
15 years of filling ashtrays at work and he quit that way.

I never smoked that sh_t. My father was up to 5-6 packs a day (Kents) when I was a kid and
I had to do the respect thing and sit there and breathe like nothing while he'd talk with
what seemed every breath he took a deep drag. It got me bronchitis and he kept going, his
right he needed it for his nerves, etc. Before I started school I knew I wouldn't smoke.
I have no idea what about the stuff makes anyone cool unless stupid = cool to them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Interesting.

The first and only time I was ever tempted to smoke was when I caught my friends smoking around the back of the school in 1978. They had a variety of dumb reasons why I should also smoke which would translate to "It`s cool" and "Fun!" etc.

I did actually put the unlit cigarette to my mouth, and then said, "Nah. Forget it." I really couldn`t see the point. Now if they`d said "It`ll get you girls!" That might have altered history. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Considering kid peer-pressure, I`m quite please that I was strong enough to resist.

That in the late `70s, everyone and their Grandma was a smoker and you couldn`t even eat without it being shoved in your face, it`s a wonder I never took it up.
I guess my father being a non smoker helped.


As to the original question, all I can say is, I saw a friend of mine who was a chain-smoker for many years try unsuccessfully to give up. But his health was gradually being affected. He could see the difference between him and me as we were the same age. I`d run up a stairs, but he`d be knackered after the first floor. He tried loads of artificial stuff that didn`t work.

Then 5 years ago, he decided just to STOP. And he did, never touched a cigarette again after that.

JG10r_Bull
08-07-2006, 05:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raaaid:
im smoking a cigarrete as i write this down and i would like to quit but dont have enough will

any advice plz? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> join the club mate

and what is real bad is that when playing IL2 i smoke more so IL2 is real bad 4 my health http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

JG10r_Bull
08-07-2006, 05:14 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gifso 4 me to Quit i need to stop playing IL2......... come on BOB http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

F19_Ob
08-07-2006, 05:34 AM
Perhaps not so much advice, more reflection.

I got rid of my addiction some 15 years ago.
I belive I succeeded because I stopped using nicotine when I was really ill with the flu (2 weeks), wich masked the illnes associated with terminating addictions.
The other thing with nicotine use is that it has become a habit, a pattern in behavior, wich is even harder to break.

The habit is also hard to break because it isn't ment to be broken. In evolution the habit is what u are used to be doing and doing is what u have learned. So habit is an aid to remember what we have learned and in a way becomes cemented in our being.

Perhaps a bit too deep but I think it provides an excellent explanation to why it is so hard to break the habit.
The addiction and need for nicotine is practically gone in 2 weeks in most cases as I understand it , and the rest is the force of habit.


I would suggest doing something else than u are used to, a new project. Anything that gives new angles on things. Be occupied with something rewarding.

I've heard a story of a person who rewarded another person with more advanced bedroom-activities during the critical period of quitting. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Unfortunately this other person wasn't me, but I have the fortune to be able to lose myself in studies, and I think it may have helped some.

Still after 15 years I occasionally dream I use nicotine, but when I wake I'm so glad I got rid of it.
This 'habit'-thing must be really strong when the images still are present after such a long time.

I wish u good luck m8.

TSmoke
08-07-2006, 12:25 PM
Good luck to you raaaid.

Good post by the way, better than some of the nut job ones you have put up. But they always gave me a chuckle.

Been smoking for almost 40 years, down to about 10 a day. I enjoy smoking and will never quit. Thats because I chose not to.

blakduk
08-07-2006, 08:06 PM
I used to smoke a packet a day. I was started to get concerned about the number of my patients that had lung problems from smoking- their birth dates were often uncomfortably close to mine!

Raaid- my best advice is to only try to quit when things are going well. Dont try it if you're in the middle of changing jobs, moving house, getting married etc. Stopping smoking is very hard on you physically as well as psychologically so be prepared for a hard time.
The best piece of advice is to remember that the craving for a cigarette, the times of the day when you really feel like you need one, only last for about ten minutes. If you can distract yourself for that amount of time when the cravings hit you will forget that you wanted one. My major talent is for procrastination so it was easy for me to use this method.
Use the money you save from smoking to do something else you enjoy- go to the movies, save for a TrackIR, rudder pedals etc.
I also took to smoking a pen- i look ridiculous and my patients laugh at me but that's okay. I work in mental health so i can appear as eccentric as i like http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I find the act of 'dragging' on a pen and holding my breath for a second or so calms me down a lot. I believe the relief i got from smoking was actually a result of taking 5 minutes to sit down and take a deep breath.
Finally, go cold-turkey. Dont bother with the expensive chewing gum and patches- its much cheaper to just stop and the physiological effects of nicotine addiction only last a couple of days. The rest is lifestyle and ways of dealing with stress.
Most people who quit smoking are always left with the feeling that they could easily start again- i'm one of them. I actually quit 15years ago and there are still times i could easily pick up a packet and start again. Whenever i feel like that i remember to delay the idea for ten minutes- it works like a charm.
Depending on what country you are in you might find there is a government sponsored health campaign to offer advice and support.
Good luck.