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Monson74
03-29-2006, 07:56 AM
Is there any news on this pretty bird? Does anyone know if/when it will be included?

HotelBushranger
03-29-2006, 08:10 AM
By all looks of things, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

Beaufort-RAF
03-29-2006, 08:22 AM
Exactlty what I've been wondering.


The A-20C/G were commercial models, bought from 3rd party. Thus, they appear only in commercial titles. The A-20C, much probably will be coming in one of the upcoming commercial add-ons for FB+PF merged. I am not sure in which one, though.


SaQSoN posted that on Feb 19th.

Fingers crossed.

VW-IceFire
03-29-2006, 03:17 PM
My guess is that it will come with IL-10 Manchuria. That seems like the most logical place for it to appear...the Pe-2 addon seems very focused.

Flakwalker
03-29-2006, 03:59 PM
Thats a good new, what about the A-20H, its similar to the A-20G but with a little HP boost.

Beaufort-RAF
03-29-2006, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
My guess is that it will come with IL-10 Manchuria. That seems like the most logical place for it to appear...the Pe-2 addon seems very focused.

Hopefully.

Although the IL10 & Sally are in IL2-Compare which has just been released, the A20C isn't.

Grey_Mouser67
03-29-2006, 08:09 PM
I sure hope we get another allied bomber aircraft...especially early war with a bombsight. It is too bad we never got one of the heavies flyable nor did we get the Mosquito B IV flyable either.

darkhorizon11
03-29-2006, 09:02 PM
Don't count out any more free patches too.


Viikate asked about the Fokker he modeled.
Oleg make it somewhat his response posts that although he gets the say of whether or not to include a plane in the sim, he doesn't choose which patch. Theres a seperate programmer that codes the planes in and he basically just puts em as they come.

He said that it should be in the next patch. Maybe the A-20C will also come as well along with the CW-21 and the Avia 534 since they would really be oddball aircraft in the Manchuria map.

The A-20C was mainly used by the RAF.

Nimits
03-29-2006, 10:29 PM
But it would do for an A-20B for PTO USAAF use (better than an A-20G anyway).

pdog1
03-29-2006, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by Nimits:
But it would do for an A-20B for PTO USAAF use (better than an A-20G anyway).

USAAF used very little numbers of B/C for combat... most of them went to russia or raf.
G model saw cost combat with USAAF in PTO.
Still need C model for DAF. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

jeanba2
03-30-2006, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by pdog1:

USAAF used very little numbers of B/C for combat... most of them went to russia or raf.

The A20-C would fit very well with the Pe-2 addon

Monson74
03-30-2006, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by pdog1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nimits:
But it would do for an A-20B for PTO USAAF use (better than an A-20G anyway).

USAAF used very little numbers of B/C for combat... most of them went to russia or raf.
G model saw cost combat with USAAF in PTO.
Still need C model for DAF. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That would be nice for an MTO map http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BH-21
03-30-2006, 06:52 AM
The USAAF and the RAAF in New Guinea in the early days (pre-1943) used several A-20As though. The RAAF stationed Beaufighter Mk 1s and A-20A at the new Wards Drome in September 1942.

Beaufort-RAF
04-05-2006, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by SaQSoN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Will a paid add-on or patch include the A-20C

Yes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's a quote from the Pe-2 addon thread today, so good news. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Monson74
04-05-2006, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Beaufort-RAF:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SaQSoN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Will a paid add-on or patch include the A-20C

Yes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's a quote from the Pe-2 addon thread today, so good news. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Awesome http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Krt_Bong
04-05-2006, 05:12 PM
B-25-H for PTO would be more realistic than A-20 and with that gun pack and 75mm cannon who would argue

A.K.Davis
04-05-2006, 05:37 PM
Yea! Perhaps the expense of the flight manual will not go to waste.

Beaufort-RAF
04-06-2006, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by Krt_Bong:
B-25-H for PTO would be more realistic than A-20 and with that gun pack and 75mm cannon who would argue

The A20-C isn't intended for the PTO though.

It's seeing the light of day because of it's use by the Soviets, not the Americans or British.

HotelBushranger
04-06-2006, 07:44 AM
Doesn't mean we cant use it in the desert http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Beaufort-RAF
04-06-2006, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
Doesn't mean we cant use it in the desert http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Absolutely.

I want it for the RAF. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I was so disappointed when I realised we were getting the solid nosed version with PF.

Nimits
04-06-2006, 08:54 PM
And its better for 1942 RAAF/USAAF New Guinea ops than the current A-20G . . .

HotelBushranger
04-07-2006, 03:21 AM
By the looks of my RAAF A-20 shots, it seemed they used A-20Cs with about 4 HMG in the glasshouse nose, and 2 .303 guns instead of 2 .50s for protection.

I450IVex
04-07-2006, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by Beaufort-RAF:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Krt_Bong:
B-25-H for PTO would be more realistic than A-20 and with that gun pack and 75mm cannon who would argue

The A20-C isn't intended for the PTO though.

It's seeing the light of day because of it's use by the Soviets, not the Americans or British. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well the brits used it a fair bit in the desert as the boston Mk3

i'm hanging for it.

BH-21
04-07-2006, 06:49 AM
The A-20C was used in the Pacific. When an A-20 unit needed to level bomb that C variant would lead the way and the others would drop on his cue, late 43' into 44 and to the end of the war. Read A Year in a Havoc if you don't believe me.

A.K.Davis
04-07-2006, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
By the looks of my RAAF A-20 shots, it seemed they used A-20Cs with about 4 HMG in the glasshouse nose, and 2 .303 guns instead of 2 .50s for protection.

All the guns were .303s, which was the primary difference between the A-20C and Boston Mk.III.


Originally posted by BH-21:
The A-20C was used in the Pacific. When an A-20 unit needed to level bomb that C variant would lead the way and the others would drop on his cue, late 43' into 44 and to the end of the war. Read A Year in a Havoc if you don't believe me.

Probably A-20J/Ks more typically.

HotelBushranger
04-07-2006, 08:58 AM
Righto, thought so http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Beaufort-RAF
04-07-2006, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by I450IVex:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beaufort-RAF:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Krt_Bong:
B-25-H for PTO would be more realistic than A-20 and with that gun pack and 75mm cannon who would argue

The A20-C isn't intended for the PTO though.

It's seeing the light of day because of it's use by the Soviets, not the Americans or British. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well the brits used it a fair bit in the desert as the boston Mk3

i'm hanging for it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I want it for the RAF, not so I can fly it on the eastern front. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I was just making the point that the reason it's been developed as a flyable is the Russian conection. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

luthier1
04-15-2006, 08:37 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

http://www.il2center.com/A-20C_01.jpg
http://www.il2center.com/A-20C_02.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

_VR_ScorpionWorm
04-15-2006, 08:54 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Tease. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Look forward to it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Tooz_69GIAP
04-15-2006, 10:07 PM
A good candidate for the "how low can you go" thread we had a while back!! It looks good from the bomb station - hope to see it in the not too distant future!

HotelBushranger
04-16-2006, 12:27 AM
Veeery nice http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Monson74
04-16-2006, 03:25 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

JG52Uther
04-16-2006, 04:12 AM
More bombers! Coooool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

_VR_ScorpionWorm
04-16-2006, 09:32 AM
Holy Cr@p, at first glance I thought it was crashed, but dang that is LOW!!

p1ngu666
04-16-2006, 02:59 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

HotelBushranger
04-17-2006, 02:56 AM
Surprised the props didn't go http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Crop-Duster.
04-18-2006, 06:15 PM
photoshopped

PBNA-Boosher
04-18-2006, 10:31 PM
I was going to say, Luthier, flying a bit low?

darkhorizon11
04-19-2006, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
I was going to say, Luthier, flying a bit low?

Luthier is always lays a bit low on these forums haven't you noticed? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I think its funny the way when ever he posts theres the thread is ussually bound to be 5 plus pages just because he posts so rarely. Its kind of amusing... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Copperhead310th
04-19-2006, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by darkhorizon11:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
I was going to say, Luthier, flying a bit low?

Luthier is always lays a bit low on these forums haven't you noticed? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I think its funny the way when ever he posts theres the thread is ussually bound to be 5 plus pages just because he posts so rarely. Its kind of amusing... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Abit low? any dam lower and he'd be in his grave already.
serously i thought he WAS dead. Don't come round here much any more.
hmmm wonder why that could be.

nice screenies though

JG53Frankyboy
04-19-2006, 04:39 AM
lets hope it will get a normal Bomber AI !

Feathered_IV
04-19-2006, 07:30 AM
LUTHIER!!!!!!!

Great to see you around http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Don't be a stranger now, ye hear http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

J_Weaver
04-22-2006, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by JG53Frankyboy:
lets hope it will get a normal Bomber AI !

Something needs to be done. It really makes the B-25 useless for offline level bombing. I think it would be a good idea for a feature to be added that would make ai bombers like the B-25 and A-20C level bomb above a certain altitude.

Example: Say below 2000m the ablove mentioned ai types would conduct "low level" attacks like they do now. Above 2000m they would act as level bombers like the B-17 He-111, etc.

Pig_Mac
04-28-2006, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by J_Weaver:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG53Frankyboy:
lets hope it will get a normal Bomber AI !

Something needs to be done. It really makes the B-25 useless for offline level bombing. I think it would be a good idea for a feature to be added that would make ai bombers like the B-25 and A-20C level bomb above a certain altitude.

Example: Say below 2000m the ablove mentioned ai types would conduct "low level" attacks like they do now. Above 2000m they would act as level bombers like the B-17 He-111, etc. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Amen to that! I havn't been able to run an offline campaign in the B-25 since all in my flight dive down to strafe targets, after dropping bombs, (airport in this case) only to die horribly while cursing me for not staying on course.