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llama_thumper
06-02-2007, 09:05 AM
since the Spit doesn't have adjusting of the aiming recticle like later US planes have (both distance/type), I was wondering if someone could tell me at what distance a 109's wingtips fill my aiming circle - that way i can set up the convergence to that distance, and know that when he fills the circle with his wingtips, he is precisely at convergence distance (correct?)...

Ciapka_69.GIAP
06-02-2007, 09:55 AM
I think this short video may answer all your questions; gunnery and convergence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpnJeM3wjew)

llama_thumper
06-03-2007, 11:59 AM
thx for that!

Snuffy Smith
06-03-2007, 12:35 PM
I like that very much. That's one of the most practical helps that I've seen anywhere.

Thank you for link.

SlickStick
06-04-2007, 09:34 AM
Here is some fantastic stuff in written form as well:

Gunnery (http://ww2airfronts.org/Flight%20School/transition/weaponsschool/gunnery.html)

Here is a .pdf from that site that is a gunnery manual from RAF 1943. I found it very helpful, but couldn't find the link on their site:

Bag The Hun (http://www.mediamax.com/slickstick/Hosted/bagthehun-full.pdf)

Right Click and Save As.

XyZspineZyX
06-04-2007, 09:52 AM
After seeing Dart's video on the subject and reading "The Blonde Knight of Germany" about Erich Hartmann, I went from a convergence of 300m to one of 150m and the hit and run techniques described by Hartmann. Now I hit everything I shoot at in the air. Most importantly, I get more kills quicker now too.

VW-IceFire
06-04-2007, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by Ciapka_69.GIAP:
I think this short video may answer all your questions; gunnery and convergence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpnJeM3wjew)
Love that video. I'll definitely point it out to anyone thats having any difficulty. Thanks for posting the link!

Billy_DeLyon
06-05-2007, 12:27 AM
Check out http://www.darts-page.com/ , there's some good stuff on there. Some educational, some just entertaining. Love the dry humor.

(Not OT, this is the IL-2 related homepage of the guy who made the gunnery and convergence video...)

Ciapka_69.GIAP
06-06-2007, 07:33 AM
It just so happens that one of our pilots came across it. Dart's got some great videos on his page, all the credit goes to him.

tigertalon
06-06-2007, 08:46 AM
I use 200m for machineguns and 120m for cannons. That's actually for every plane that has a pair of cannons far out on the wings backed up with some MGs. I fire cannons only at ranges below 150m and rarely fire all guns together. These settings work like a charm for me.

TgD Thunderbolt56
06-08-2007, 06:50 AM
400m



TB