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JovialTempest
10-02-2006, 12:49 PM
XBOX 360 has superior AI (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/29/assassins-creed-360-has-superior-ai-says-ubisoft-producer/)

right from the horses mouth....
360 ftw.

XBfreak_101
10-02-2006, 01:10 PM
Thanks, but i'm pretty sure a lot of people knew this already. And I doubt that you could tell the AI's difference between the PS3 and Xbox 360. But I truely hope I'm wrong!

lpcrispo
10-02-2006, 01:14 PM
I think it will not really make a difference...

JovialTempest
10-02-2006, 01:26 PM
As significant the AI seemes to be in this game then I would say that it very well might make a difference........

We will see...........

DarkCrawler90
10-02-2006, 01:34 PM
Eh, I'm pretty sure the interview is from X-Box magazine...

XBfreak_101
10-02-2006, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by DarkCrawler90:
Eh, I'm pretty sure the interview is from X-Box magazine...

Actually, Jade said it herself. I don't feel like giving a link but it was at the X06 event.

DarkCrawler90
10-02-2006, 02:27 PM
Yeah, but it is still an X-Box event...I am not saying that it can't be true, I'd just say that it isn't excatly unbiased. And hey, maybe Ps3 has something else that is better. I am sure that the difference between the two versions is marginal at best, if even noticeable. I am not going to pay much focus on the excat workings of the AI, just enjoy the game. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

XBfreak_101
10-02-2006, 02:37 PM
. And hey, maybe Ps3 has something else that is better. I am sure that the difference between the two versions is marginal at best, if even

Shut up you Ps3 fanboy! Lol just kidding. Yeah i guess you're right. There won't be that much of a difference in the AI anyways.

HorTyS
10-02-2006, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by DarkCrawler90:
Eh, I'm pretty sure the interview is from X-Box magazine...

actually, it was from IGN.com a multiplatform game site, so there was no bias, it just happened to be at an xbox event, but thats where they had the chance to talk to her. anyways, here's the exact quote:


Originally stated at IGN.com:
While the PlayStation 3 and 360 versions of Assassin's Creed are virtually identical, Raymond did say that on the 360 the team is putting a special emphasis on achievements. The hardware also allows for improved threading, which will improve even further the crowd AI.
Source:
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/736/736325p1.html

kew414
10-02-2006, 07:48 PM
Cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JovialTempest
10-02-2006, 09:20 PM
If you ask me. AI is the focal point of where this game is. Better and more complex AI is the futer of all games. MIO If you dont jump on the train your going to be left behind. IE Bioshock, more and more games are leaning towards AI and enimies that learn and grow to a players style. Eventually it may even get to the point that a game could wind up being completely different just judged on how the user plays.
Say a user is more inclined to use arrows to attack. Well perhapse the enemy may learn to brace right away for a distance attack instead of a sword fight. Or the enemy may start to cover the paths to roof tops if the user has a tennancy to be skilled at climbing up the rooftops at the first sign of thouble.
The crowd interaction is also very interesting. So in tune with how you act that they get mad if you bump into them or agitate them where as some just fall down and cry like a noob. lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

And on the PS3, I used to be a sony fanboy. I will **** my pants if this system is as much better than 360 as everone is making it out to be. What game developer would spend more time on the PS version of thier game just bc PS3 has more potential anyway?

quicksilver_502
10-03-2006, 01:33 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif i read from a ps3 developer that actually the ps3 can perform better. this is because it has seven cores instead of th 360s 5. i think ubi are keeping the ai the same

Fates.Dark.Hand
10-03-2006, 01:47 PM
No it wont http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Why would UBI do this....oh yeah i remember, cause they hate PS3 and they hate sony and Sony and UBI are both making a plan against people who buy PS3 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif thats why...

Fer-DS
10-07-2006, 08:54 AM
The ign site has been updated:


"While the PlayStation 3 and 360 versions of Assassin's Creed are virtually identical, Raymond did say that on the 360 the team is putting a special emphasis on Achievements. And while the 360 hardware enables Ubisoft's team to use multiple threads to enhance the crowd's AI, the end result for the game on both systems will be the same. "While the method for distributing AI load is different on each platform, the AI code itself is the same. Players will experience the exact same crowd results on PS3 and Xbox360," Ubisoft explained.

Impact93
10-07-2006, 12:47 PM
One word, ADVERTISING.

Cmon you guys, every forum on the net has a topic on this now, and why? So PS3 fanboys and Xbox 360 fans have something to fight over = ADVERTISING.

You wont notice any difference in gameplay exept for what has been expressed as far as the rumble functionality, and if there was REALLY going to be a powerhouse as far as NPC dynamcis go it would be the PC.

Personaly im a PC/PS3/Wii fan. (yes i know its not coming out for Wii)

ifiwerearichman
10-07-2006, 02:00 PM
"While the method for distributing AI load is different on each platform, the AI code itself is the same. Players will experience the exact same crowd results on PS3 and Xbox360," Ubisoft explained.
I think that what Fer-DS wants to say is.... PWND!

Legendary_111
10-07-2006, 06:19 PM
O.K. The Xbox will have better AI thing is over...

http://www.ps3land.com/article-820.php

butni
10-08-2006, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Legendary_111:
O.K. The Xbox will have better AI thing is over...

http://www.ps3land.com/article-820.php
yea but the oppinion of who wrote that might just be biased look at the site url "ps3land" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

ifiwerearichman
10-08-2006, 08:13 PM
Thing is, the scandal of "360 will have better AI" began during X06, which is of course pro Xbox. Also, an updated article has been posted on ign which you see here:
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/736/736325p1.html

AlexCrimson
10-10-2006, 11:31 AM
You'll get a better AI for a crappy controller. Us PC users get not as good AI (who cares really) on some great controls. Mouse/Keyboard rules! :P

Now that the "Bias" post is out of the way, I'll go find something constructive to do. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Madrid_Vercetti
10-13-2006, 06:30 PM
quote:
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posted by Fates.Dark.Hand:

No it wont

Why would UBI do this....oh yeah i remember, cause they hate PS3 and they hate sony and Sony and UBI are both making a plan against people who buy PS3 thats why...
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You are an utter idiot.

zgubilici
10-13-2006, 11:04 PM
Let's keep the discussions nice in here http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
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allthiscrap
10-13-2006, 11:06 PM
Ubisoft has already responded to this rumor. The IGN/GameSpot articles were edited because of it. This place is gets news late...<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RuskiRUSKI
10-14-2006, 03:15 AM
I love consol wars. WOOOOOO!!
Btw the 360 will hav better AI. Jade said it herself.

newbienew2006
10-14-2006, 01:06 PM
Actually, what Jade said (who by the way hasn't written code in years and when she did it was boring backend code, not engine stuff) was that threading on the 360 was better than had been available in the past. She said nothing about as compared to the future or present or as compared to the ps3. And she was talking specicically about threading. I don't remember her saying anything about AI, except that AI is one example where multitheading is useful. Again, she made no comparison to the ps3 whatever. She also was being interviewed specifically for the 360 version of AC.

Fanboyism is one thing. Misleading people is decietful, wrong, and no different than lying.

jackmup1974
10-14-2006, 02:18 PM
This game is gonna kick as! I have the xbox360 and no plans for ps3. I hope they take full advantage of 360's capabilities and prove its not inferior to ps3.

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10-14-2006, 02:32 PM
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Untimely_demise
10-15-2006, 02:20 PM
I just have one thing to say, teletubies will rule the world as soon as sony makes a better consle than xbox 360.
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ashishgurung
10-15-2006, 04:16 PM
I agree with Untimely_demise,
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butni
10-15-2006, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by AlexCrimson:
You'll get a better AI for a crappy controller. Us PC users get not as good AI (who cares really) on some great controls. Mouse/Keyboard rules! :P

Now that the "Bias" post is out of the way, I'll go find something constructive to do. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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10-16-2006, 04:52 PM
I've never had a problem with mouse/keyboard, but I prefer a hand controller anyway.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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allthiscrap
10-16-2006, 09:38 PM
Please read the updated article on IGN (also posted by someone here.)

Jade Raymond was saying the 360 version will focus more on achievements. Ubisoft does not know if Sony is going to have something like that for the PS3 which is why the statement said PS3/360 version will be identical but more focus will be put on achiements for the 360. After that she went on to talk about the hardware available for them to work on which is both the 360 and the PS3.

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Str4ngeBrew
11-30-2006, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Fer-DS:
The ign site has been updated:


"While the PlayStation 3 and 360 versions of Assassin's Creed are virtually identical, Raymond did say that on the 360 the team is putting a special emphasis on Achievements. And while the 360 hardware enables Ubisoft's team to use multiple threads to enhance the crowd's AI, the end result for the game on both systems will be the same. "While the method for distributing AI load is different on each platform, the AI code itself is the same. Players will experience the exact same crowd results on PS3 and Xbox360," Ubisoft explained.

Oh thank God!!! Oh praise the heavens! What a relief!! I was down for months over what I thought was true about the 360 version being better but now its all cleared up http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif My PS3 is still worth getting in March!!!! What a relief! So happy! thank you for posting that or I would never of found out until the release!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

klc123
12-02-2006, 07:06 AM
xbox 360 users are just horrible people,they are constantly comparing too ps3 ,saying haha now its on 360 well ive got news for u dudes,ps3 is better than 360 will eva be,this is just one game and i bet the difference is unnoticeable,i cant wait too see all ur dissapointed faces when ps3 uses its better and newer technology too suparce all the 360 games,atm they are bin too genorose making multi platform games,they should make one but use ps3s ablilitys too the best,not just notch it down because 360 isnt as good
EDIT:gettin back too the point shame who ever started this thread she didnt accully say 360 is better, she just sed that the 360 technology lets them use better AI's than MOST GAMES ,NOT THE PS3 VERSION OF THIS GAME.get ur facts rite please

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12-02-2006, 08:12 AM
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12-02-2006, 07:34 PM
<span class="ev_code_GREY">Simply to post in a thread like this one would make you a "fanboi" seeing how the only possible reason to say anything here is to instigate..

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lpcrispo
12-04-2006, 07:21 AM
Fanboys are so funny... always trying to start a console war...
I prefer oranges to apples... I must be an oranges fanboy so now I gotta try to bash anyone who likes apples!

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12-04-2006, 07:33 AM
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12-04-2006, 02:12 PM
klc123, do not flame or ignite flame wars again- when posting, just give your opinion on the matter, without bashing or flaming other users or group of users.

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Spblob
12-04-2006, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by AlexCrimson:
You'll get a better AI for a crappy controller. Us PC users get not as good AI (who cares really) on some great controls. Mouse/Keyboard rules! :P

Now that the "Bias" post is out of the way, I'll go find something constructive to do. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I think AI makes a big difference... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif...though the PS3 and the 360 are not going to be that different.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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lawkspower
12-10-2006, 02:04 AM
they just dont know to work with the ps3 ubisoft had more time to find out wat the 360 is holding in him the ps3 is just released they dont realy know wat it's capable of i believe in sony ps2 never tought they cud make a game like socom 3 even the x-box (released later than ps2) cudn't do that so wait and see ps3 will crash the 360


ok sorry i only read the first poste /edit/

allthiscrap
12-10-2006, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by lawkspower:
they just dont know to work with the ps3 ubisoft had more time to find out wat the 360 is holding in him the ps3 is just released they dont realy know wat it's capable of i believe in sony ps2 never tought they cud make a game like socom 3 even the x-box (released later than ps2) cudn't do that so wait and see ps3 will crash the 360

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