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blairgowrie
01-12-2011, 12:51 PM
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=18092

UBISoft will be official distributor. March 24th launch date confirmed.

Jaws2002
01-12-2011, 12:54 PM
I didn't se that date anywhere. Got a link BG?

Thx. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

AndyJWest
01-12-2011, 01:08 PM
Seeing that Nearmiss (the forum moderator) wrote:

There is something fishy about all this!
I'd attach no significance to this at all.

blairgowrie
01-12-2011, 01:08 PM
http://translate.google.de/tra...e&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8 (http://translate.google.de/translate?u=http://www.gbase.de/PC/news/Storm-of-War%25253a-Name-%252526-Termin-neu/4992/47703.html&sl=de&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8)

KRISTORF
01-12-2011, 01:11 PM
In German, but the dates the same

http://www.gbase.ch/Global/new...-neu/4992/47703.html (http://www.gbase.ch/Global/news/Storm-of-War%3A-Name-%26-Termin-neu/4992/47703.html)

Translation??
Maddox games' Long-term project storm of war: Battle of Britain Newsposter repeatedly poses little challenges. Current status information and even a new naming policy Publisher Ubisoft. Who has a current date stack up to now unknown game called IL-2 Sturmovik: cliffs of Dover listed. Nowhere were product pages or more information to find, so we launched a more detailed search.

Our score: Storm of war was once and is now marketed under the IL-2 titles at least in European regions. Chief Designer Oleg Maddox is the new name little enthusiastically and prefers had wished the storm of war title containing "from the makers of the excellent IL 2 series". We thought we agree with him, but first in a new extension to the flight simulation game series, but not the storm of war project.

Ubisoft is 24. March 2011 release date. Realistic? On it we would bet a cent in view of the bumpy history anyway. Oleg itself but confirms that the game is in final beta. Below a video showing current game scenes.

Jaws2002
01-12-2011, 01:17 PM
Thx.

Ba5tard5word
01-12-2011, 01:36 PM
March eh? Damn, hopefully it sticks.

And hopefully Ubi has been very hands-off in its publishing of the game and has let 1C/Maddox be in charge of making the game.

Chivas
01-12-2011, 01:46 PM
Its starting to look very much like the phoney war will soon be over and we will be scrambling over the channel in the Spring.

JG52Uther
01-12-2011, 01:53 PM
Lets hope Oleg confirms this on Friday,if not before.

AndyJWest
01-12-2011, 02:11 PM
This all seems to be sourced from a single website: http://www.exlibris.ch/games/p...er/?id=3307219934469 (http://www.exlibris.ch/games/pc/il2-sturmovik-cliffs-of-dover/?id=3307219934469)
Nothing official at all. Until we get official comments from 1C:Maddox and/or Ubisoft, I'm going to assume it is just more hype, to drum up orders.

DuckyFluff
01-12-2011, 02:15 PM
I'll beleive it when I see it.

March 24th eh? that would be a nice birthday present to myself http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

blairgowrie
01-12-2011, 02:27 PM
Would I lie to you or feed you bad information?

DuckyFluff
01-12-2011, 02:34 PM
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/daniel.clarke17/ndb00201012101541291588.jpg


This looks promising http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

AND UBI is the publisher if this is genuine.

danjama
01-12-2011, 02:42 PM
Wow. Almost here eh.

Edit:

"Internew connection required to activate game"

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Uufflakke
01-12-2011, 02:54 PM
Yeah, that box art reminds me of this thread at 1C:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/s...ghlight=cliffs+dover (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=17304&highlight=cliffs+dover)

So it's just a joke, a rumour, a hoax.
Reminds me of all the pre-orderings at several websites with a release date of SOW. Well a couple of years further and still nothing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Talking about rumours. I've heard another rumour that Oleg works full time at Vizzera now and left 1C totally. Because they deranked him.
Still waiting for the guy to send me the link with that info though...

DuckyFluff
01-12-2011, 02:55 PM
Better not be internet connection required.....or it'll be stillborn. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Chivas
01-12-2011, 02:59 PM
It appears to be showing up on a few game selling websites in europe.

WTE_Galway
01-12-2011, 03:01 PM
It will be a real shame if Ubisoft are the publisher as they have a tendency to use very intrusive badly thought out DRMs.

DuckyFluff
01-12-2011, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by Uufflakke:
Yeah, that box art reminds me of this thread at 1C:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/s...ghlight=cliffs+dover (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=17304&highlight=cliffs+dover)

So it's just a joke, a rumour, a hoax.
Reminds me of all the pre-orderings at several websites with a release date of SOW. Well a couple of years further and still nothing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Talking about rumours. I've heard another rumour that Oleg works full time at Vizzera now and left 1C totally. Because they deranked him.
Still waiting for the guy to send me the link with that info though...


You is wrong http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

jarink
01-12-2011, 03:11 PM
True or not, I think going back to the "Il-2" name would be a mistake. Sure, it offers brand recognition for those already familiar with the genre, but it would do little to entice those looking for their first flight sim. The game has far outgrown those roots and the humble Il-2 hasn't been the centerpiece of the sim since Forgotten Battles came out.

JG52Uther
01-12-2011, 03:15 PM
I don't think Oleg wanted the name,but has to go with what the publisher wants...
I like to think its real,would be quite an elaborate hoax,and for no purpose.

blairgowrie
01-12-2011, 03:15 PM
I don't get the il2 name either nor the name change to Cliffs of Dover.

More on this tomorrow.

WTE_Galway
01-12-2011, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by jarink:
True or not, I think going back to the "Il-2" name would be a mistake. Sure, it offers brand recognition for those already familiar with the genre, but it would do little to entice those looking for their first flight sim. The game has far outgrown those roots and the humble Il-2 hasn't been the centerpiece of the sim since Forgotten Battles came out.


Do not meddle in the affairs of Marketing Men, for they are subtle and quick to anger.

Mr_Zooly
01-12-2011, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by DuckyFluff:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/daniel.clarke17/ndb00201012101541291588.jpg


This looks promising http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

AND UBI is the publisher if this is genuine.

I absolutely hate the name, why the Il-2 reference? almost everyone who buys the game will know who its dev team is so in my mind its a lot silly to add the subtitle.

DuckyFluff
01-12-2011, 03:30 PM
MARKETING. Simples...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

I think COD is way more suitable than Storm of War for a Battle of Britain sim.

I also believe that whatever Olegs plans, that the money men have taken over, and that is never a good thing. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I didn't say it was genuine, It may well be an elaborate fake. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

thefruitbat
01-12-2011, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by AndyJWest:
This all seems to be sourced from a single website: http://www.exlibris.ch/games/p...er/?id=3307219934469 (http://www.exlibris.ch/games/pc/il2-sturmovik-cliffs-of-dover/?id=3307219934469)
Nothing official at all. Until we get official comments from 1C:Maddox and/or Ubisoft, I'm going to assume it is just more hype, to drum up orders.

you is wrong, be sure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

WTE_Ibis
01-12-2011, 03:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gqBt-hhob0

Ibis.


.

K_Freddie
01-12-2011, 03:36 PM
Any DRM and like SH5.. you can kiss another customer goodbye http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

danjama
01-12-2011, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by kneebonejockey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gqBt-hhob0

Ibis.


.

If that's how the Spitty's are going to sound, we haven't come very far have we?

Will not be buying or upgrading my PC to buy, if that's the sound of the engines.

They sound better internally though.

A lot of that video just looks too similar to IL2 to me, even the AI.

WTE_Galway
01-12-2011, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by K_Freddie:
Any DRM and like SH5.. you can kiss another customer goodbye http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

+1

blairgowrie
01-12-2011, 03:49 PM
I don't think there will be DRM. I think their experience with Silent Hunter V was a bitter experience for UBI. Appears to be a single Internet confirmation needed and that is all.

DuckyFluff
01-12-2011, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kneebonejockey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gqBt-hhob0

Ibis.


.

If that's how the Spitty's are going to sound, we haven't come very far have we?

Will not be buying or upgrading my PC to buy, if that's the sound of the engines.

They sound better internally though.

A lot of that video just looks too similar to IL2 to me, even the AI. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Those sounds are "apparently" just placeholders for the finished sounds. This video was made MANY months ago. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

DuckyFluff
01-12-2011, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by blairgowrie:
I don't think there will be DRM. I think their experience with Silent Hunter V was a bitter experience for UBI. Appears to be a single Internet confirmation needed and that is all.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Hopefully.

ElAurens
01-12-2011, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kneebonejockey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gqBt-hhob0

Ibis.


.

If that's how the Spitty's are going to sound, we haven't come very far have we?

Will not be buying or upgrading my PC to buy, if that's the sound of the engines.

They sound better internally though.

A lot of that video just looks too similar to IL2 to me, even the AI. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That video is quite old. It was shown on the banana forum some time ago. The sounds are place holders from IL2, the ground textures are alpha level, etc... It's all old work in progress stuff.

Folks we should not jump to conclusions here.

Ba5tard5word
01-12-2011, 03:52 PM
I don't particularly care about DRM if it's in the background, though requiring an internet connection is dumb, I always liked that the few times my internet went down and I couldn't play my DRM games, I could always go back to Il-2 and play until my connection was back up.

I'm mainly concerned with the game being good. I could totally see Ubi forcing a lot of dumb things into it, again hopefully they are really hands-off. I'm probably going to wait a while after its release to consider getting it, and wait and see what people say about it in terms of it feeling like a finished product, being buggy or not. And are they going to include new planes for free with updates or is it going to be pay-to-play like ROF? If it's the latter, that really puts me off.

But annoying DRM is...annoying. It makes ROF really annoying to play.

Ba5tard5word
01-12-2011, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by blairgowrie:
I don't think there will be DRM. I think their experience with Silent Hunter V was a bitter experience for UBI. Appears to be a single Internet confirmation needed and that is all.

Isn't requiring an internet connection DRM? I don't see why else you would need it. It might not be as bad as RoF where it can only be played on your computer, or games where the DRM is really buggy, but requiring an internet connection seems to be done to provide a DRM connection between the game and the publisher to prevent illegal copies, do bug reports, etc.

JG52Uther
01-12-2011, 03:58 PM
A one off activation would do me just fine.
Its SoW for gods sake,Olegs Magnum Opus!
I would buy this on the day of release,warts and all.
24th is just after my birthday as well,so I hope its true.

Dolemite-
01-12-2011, 04:17 PM
Supposedly SH5's internet connection was changed from being needed constantly to only needed once at game start up. Not that it makes it any better but shows UBI is at least willing to cut back some of their intrusive DRM. As for RoF, it hasn't needed an internet connection to play for some time now. Just if you want to update your stats for career mode and the like.

ROXunreal
01-12-2011, 04:29 PM
March 24th? So by november it will be out... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

I have no issues with a one-off internet activation, anything more is undesirable.

Also have no issues with Cliffs of Dover name, it's a lot more original than Battle of Britain. They should have put "From the creators of IL-2 Sturmovik" on the bottom, not as a sub-title though.

Crash_Moses
01-12-2011, 04:32 PM
Crossing my fingers but not holding my breath.

Always wanted to put those two together...

DuckyFluff
01-12-2011, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by ROXunreal:
March 24th? So by november it will be out... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

I have no issues with a one-off internet activation, anything more is undesirable.

Also have no issues with Cliffs of Dover name, it's a lot more original than Battle of Britain. They should have put "From the creators of IL-2 Sturmovik" on the bottom, not as a sub-title though.

DOH!

The sim is a sim about The Battle of Britain. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

R_Target
01-12-2011, 04:37 PM
This forum has really gone downhill. Nobody mentioned two weeks yet. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

ElAurens
01-12-2011, 04:42 PM
Be sure!

Ba5tard5word
01-12-2011, 04:46 PM
Be su-

dammit!

R_Target
01-12-2011, 04:50 PM
I'm hoping for a Collector's Edition available in a hand-crafted Deltawood carrying and presentation case.

And Oleg was wrong. There is a Spitfire made from a wood:

http://www.thewoodenmodelcompany.co.uk/spitfire-index.jpg

C.W.M.V.
01-12-2011, 04:57 PM
Well, Ill believe it when I see it in my hands. If there is invasive DRM I will not buy it.
So what are the system requirements for this?

Chivas
01-12-2011, 05:42 PM
There has been no system specs posted yet. Although the developers are using average pc's to develop the sim. This helps them insure that people with average sims will be able to play the game. Of course with a very highend system you will be able to turn on more bells and whistles.

I had no issues with ROF's DRM and UBI apparently has lifted their constant internet connection requirement for SH. I don't have a problem with developers and publisher trying stop as many people as possible from stealing their money. If its available for nothing a large percentage of people WILL take advantage. Combat flight sim margins are small enough already.

WTE_Galway
01-12-2011, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by Chivas:
If its available for nothing a large percentage of people WILL take advantage.

Lawyer propaganda http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The experience of "Sins of a Solar Empire" which has no DRM at all indicate otherwise. It is one of the top selling games in its genre.

VW-IceFire
01-12-2011, 06:24 PM
After all of the bad press... the Ubisoft activation now appears to be limited to activation/deactivation system which is about as good as it gets for DRM these days. I haven't used it but they seem to have gotten the hint that draconian DRM measures are bad for business.

Feathered_IV
01-12-2011, 06:57 PM
That box set looks very much like concept art to me. Not the finished product.
I suspect we've a ways to go yet.

K_Freddie
01-12-2011, 07:28 PM
"Nineteen years of age, eight years public education, three years military service. Intelligent, normally observant and answered all questions freely. He was arrogant and proud to be a pilot. Fellow prisoners in hospital consider him mentally unstable."
If you think a bit...
19 - 3 years military service makes him 16 when he joined. 3 years military in the hardcore zone, with an attitude, make him a POW at 19yrs.
Sure he was arrogant, he was full of crap.. actually he was in hospital coz of his crap, and when the average age in WW2 was 26, I'm not surprised he was given a 'wide berth'
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Chivas
01-12-2011, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chivas:
If its available for nothing a large percentage of people WILL take advantage.

Lawyer propaganda http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The experience of "Sins of a Solar Empire" which has no DRM at all indicate otherwise. It is one of the top selling games in its genre. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This statement has no baring on the amount the sim was pirated. It may have been the top selling game ever, and also the most pirated.

Feathered_IV
01-13-2011, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by K_Freddie:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">"Nineteen years of age, eight years public education, three years military service. Intelligent, normally observant and answered all questions freely. He was arrogant and proud to be a pilot. Fellow prisoners in hospital consider him mentally unstable."
If you think a bit...
19 - 3 years military service makes him 16 when he joined. 3 years military in the hardcore zone, with an attitude, make him a POW at 19yrs.
Sure he was arrogant, he was full of crap.. actually he was in hospital coz of his crap, and when the average age in WW2 was 26, I'm not surprised he was given a 'wide berth'
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you think a bit, if Masajiro Kawato entered the Imperial Japanese Navy as a cadet when he was sixteen, he'd be nineteen when posted to Rabaul, shot down and captured three years later. Which when he was recovering from burns in a US pow hospital and the interrogation report (from which the quote is taken) was written.

Falcke
01-13-2011, 05:32 AM
So we haven't seen any videos, a trailer, not even any proper screenshots that look like the finalized game. Can anyone genuinely believe it will be kicked out the door in 1 or 2 months?

No way in hell unless everyone has gone mad over there.

RSS-Martin
01-13-2011, 05:41 AM
Maybe they are already working on the first fix patches 4.01 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

JG52Uther
01-13-2011, 06:23 AM
Sometimes the German il2 forum is an interesting place to visit!

stalkervision
01-13-2011, 06:54 AM
"Drizzle of Destruction" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Feathered_IV
01-13-2011, 06:57 AM
Eh? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Oh, I see. A bit of recycling been going on.

RSS-Martin
01-13-2011, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by JG52Uther:
Sometimes the German il2 forum is an interesting place to visit!
Ha ha yeah especially in the "Hanger" "Der inoffizielle Flittchen-Fred" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif otherwise it is the normal Ubi-zoo like here too.

JG53Frankyboy
01-13-2011, 07:15 AM
if you were just-in-time you were able to read UBI-marc's post (that he deleted some minutes later).
short summarize:
1. the info was leaked, official announcmenet is planned next week
2. you need to be online only for first registration.

Uufflakke
01-13-2011, 11:45 AM
SOW: Smell Of Women.
This seems to be the box-art for UK release in March 2011.

( All credits go tho max_thehitman. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif )

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b75/paulhewson/z_SOW_SmellOfWomen_IL2.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b75/paulhewson/z_SOW_SmellOfWomen_IL2_package2.jpg

C.W.M.V.
01-13-2011, 11:55 AM
Saw that as SAS. Much LOL was had.

DuckyFluff
01-13-2011, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by Falcke:
So we haven't seen any videos, a trailer, not even any proper screenshots that look like the finalized game. Can anyone genuinely believe it will be kicked out the door in 1 or 2 months?

No way in hell unless everyone has gone mad over there.

You been living under a stone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&v=Z469HXN0hlQ

waffen-79
01-13-2011, 12:55 PM
Smell of Women, now that I would buy, steam or not http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

WholeHawg
01-13-2011, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by jarink:
True or not, I think going back to the "Il-2" name would be a mistake. Sure, it offers brand recognition for those already familiar with the genre, but it would do little to entice those looking for their first flight sim. The game has far outgrown those roots and the humble Il-2 hasn't been the centerpiece of the sim since Forgotten Battles came out.


AGREE 100%

Boosher
01-13-2011, 03:01 PM
Oh I really hope not. Sorry UBI, but you've proven to be just irresponsible when it comes to the title. If I recall correctly, you LOST the passwords to update the main site long ago. Still, if you're willing to keep flight sims going, then I have to give you props.

Chivas
01-13-2011, 03:37 PM
This was posted by goud @ Simhq when asked about the delay in their Oleg interview.

"Name change is finalized... IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs Of Dover"

"This was one of the delays for the interview, but I couldn't say earlier. My guess on the interview now is first part of February. I'm guessing so don't hold me to that timeline. I'd guessed December before and was wrong on that! There are a few more things coming before Oleg can complete his responses. But it should be worth the extra wait."

thefruitbat
01-13-2011, 04:10 PM
I love watching how many people want to cut of there nose to spite there face.

the i'm not buying SOW or COD whatever because.... (fill in blank)

personally i couldn't give a rats *** if these people don't buy it on some higher 'principle', whoever they are, because in the grand scheme of things a computer game is way down my list of things that are actually remotely important in the world.

me personally, i can't wait, and i'll be having fun playing it from day one, because i'm lucky and can.

blairgowrie
01-13-2011, 04:12 PM
Well said fruitbat.

WTE_Galway
01-13-2011, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by thefruitbat:
I love watching how many people want to cut of there nose to spite there face.

the i'm not buying SOW or COD whatever because.... (fill in blank)

personally i couldn't give a rats *** if these people don't buy it on some higher 'principle', whoever they are, because in the grand scheme of things a computer game is way down my list of things that are actually remotely important in the world.

me personally, i can't wait, and i'll be having fun playing it from day one, because i'm lucky and can.


Just means IL2 will get to stay around for longer.

C.W.M.V.
01-13-2011, 04:56 PM
That's all well and good, but my biggest concern isn't the DRM (I'm sure that's already been sorted out) but the seeming lack of campaign options. I tried reading over some of the non-english reviews, but my German is very rusty. It seems that this is going to be little more than a spitfire simulator, with no Luftwaffe campaigns? That would seriously suck. Who wants to fly RAF all the time anyway? All the best machines and pilots wore Balkenkreuz.

ElAurens
01-13-2011, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by C.W.M.V.:
All the best machines and pilots wore Balkenkreuz.


What utter rubbish.

Nice troll effort though.

And since no one really knows for sure what the full content will be why get in a twist over it?

Unless of course you are just trolling, then I'd give a C+ on this one.

Chivas
01-13-2011, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by C.W.M.V.:
That's all well and good, but my biggest concern isn't the DRM (I'm sure that's already been sorted out) but the seeming lack of campaign options. I tried reading over some of the non-english reviews, but my German is very rusty. It seems that this is going to be little more than a spitfire simulator, with no Luftwaffe campaigns? That would seriously suck. Who wants to fly RAF all the time anyway? All the best machines and pilots wore Balkenkreuz.

If you followed SOW (IL-2 Cliffs of Dover) news at all you would know there is a german campaign in the works.

thefruitbat
01-13-2011, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by C.W.M.V.:
Who wants to fly RAF all the time anyway? All the best machines and pilots wore Balkenkreuz.

roflmao.

spot the luftwiner/troll.

newsflash, the were good, mediocre, and bad on all sides.

try reading some books, if you can. Its amazing what you can learn, lol.

as to COD, don't buy it then, couldn't care less.

@WTE_Galway, no skin of my nose, i love it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

knightflyte
01-13-2011, 06:05 PM
Smell of women? "Hoooo Ahhhhhhhhh!"

C.W.M.V.
01-13-2011, 06:56 PM
You fools are as bad as the banana forums tools.
As far as following the development please, saying they are working on a luftwaffe campaign means they have no luftwaffe campaign, which is what I had asked about to begin with. Post back when you have something substantive.
And to the trolls, face fact. Luftwaffe planes were superior to allied planes with very few exceptions, most notably being the lack of long range bomber. The pilots were demonstrably better as well. allied ace scores were insignifigant compared to their Luftwaffe counterparts. Good pilots and equipment were on all sides but their stuff was better. We just a number advantage. Oh ya and we had competent people at the top, not something the Luftwaffe can claim

Choctaw111
01-13-2011, 07:18 PM
March, eh?
This is the first I have heard this.
Did Oleg say that?

Jaws2002
01-13-2011, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by C.W.M.V.:
allied ace scores were insignifigant compared to their Luftwaffe counterparts.

Hehe. This is so funy.
Actually it was the other way around. After all was said and done, the allied victories help win the war. In the end all German victories didn't count for crap. All they could do in the end was watch a foreign flag fly over their home airbase. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Talk about feeling insignificant. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

BadA1m
01-13-2011, 07:27 PM
CWMV, While I love the German's machinery as well(Air, ground and sea), your reasoning is utterly simplistic mate. You might want to do some more research, before you make such wide sweeping comments and make a fool of yourself. The facts are way more complex, as they usually are.

Falcke
01-13-2011, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by DuckyFluff:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Falcke:
So we haven't seen any videos, a trailer, not even any proper screenshots that look like the finalized game. Can anyone genuinely believe it will be kicked out the door in 1 or 2 months?

No way in hell unless everyone has gone mad over there.

You been living under a stone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&v=Z469HXN0hlQ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

An early build and everything is WiP and subject to change. And this is from November. I don't know at what point you think during development you're still working on features, but unless they want to do a crazy rush job March is absurdly soon.

Things need to be programmed, tested, improved and tested again. Especially for such a highly complex piece of software on a brand new engine that SoW clearly is.

It might very well be possible that all work had to be cut short, and they have no choice. But a March release imo can't lead to anything but a game in dire need of a heavy load of patching, to sort everything out they didn't have time for anymore during normal development.

horseback
01-13-2011, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by C.W.M.V.:
You fools are as bad as the banana forums tools.
As far as following the development please, saying they are working on a luftwaffe campaign means they have no luftwaffe campaign, which is what I had asked about to begin with. Post back when you have something substantive.
And to the trolls, face fact. Luftwaffe planes were superior to allied planes with very few exceptions, most notably being the lack of long range bomber. The pilots were demonstrably better as well. allied ace scores were insignifigant compared to their Luftwaffe counterparts. Good pilots and equipment were on all sides but their stuff was better. We just a number advantage. Oh ya and we had competent people at the top, not something the Luftwaffe can claim First, I’d recommend avoiding calling people you don’t know fools just because they express opinions that differ from your own.

Second, I’d suggest that you revisit your sweeping claim about the superiority of Luftwaffe aircraft. While I and most of the folks on this forum would agree that the Germans were well ahead in the tactics and combat experience department in the first half of WWII, ‘superiority’ is a slippery concept when applied to fighter aircraft of that period.

The Hurricane and Spitfire held certain advantages over the Bf-109E at the altitudes that most combat was entered, and Commonwealth pilots quickly learned them and did their best to entice the Jagdewaffe into engaging them on more desirable terms.

While the Germans inflicted more fighter vs fighter victories, the contest is hard to judge when the Commonwealth fighters were concentrating far more on taking down bombers rather than Messerschmitts (and bear in mind that the USAAF escort pilots who decimated the LW over Germany enjoyed the same advantage of being more able to sneak up on guys who were more concerned with taking down bombers instead of looking for single engined kills).

And by the way, the numbers in the Battle of Britain appear to have been even at the very best from the Commonwealth perspective. The Germans had significant reserves and the initiative to go along with their tactical expertise; they could obtain concentrations at the point of the attack that the Brits, limited by range and the need to protect the whole southern coast could not.

Finally, the German head start gave the surviviors an experience advantage; even so, an awful large percentage of the top German scorers were someone else's victory on multiple occasions; I seem to recall one top experten having been shot down by Allied aircraft way more than a dozen times ove thecourse of the war, and there were several others who took to their chutes nearly as often.

These guys were statistical anomalies as much as they were highly skilled.

cheers

horseback

Feathered_IV
01-13-2011, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by C.W.M.V.:
Well, Ill believe it when I see it in my hands. If there is invasive DRM I will not buy it.
So what are the system requirements for this?

System requirements for the collectors edition are as follows:

Desk or tabletop, 900x600mm or better. Good natural light or reading lamp with a single or dual hand input. Some users may find reading glasses useful.

Chivas
01-13-2011, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by C.W.M.V.:
You fools are as bad as the banana forums tools.
As far as following the development please, saying they are working on a luftwaffe campaign means they have no luftwaffe campaign, which is what I had asked about to begin with. Post back when you have something substantive.
And to the trolls, face fact. Luftwaffe planes were superior to allied planes with very few exceptions, most notably being the lack of long range bomber. The pilots were demonstrably better as well. allied ace scores were insignifigant compared to their Luftwaffe counterparts. Good pilots and equipment were on all sides but their stuff was better. We just a number advantage. Oh ya and we had competent people at the top, not something the Luftwaffe can claim

Maybe if you could read you might have an idea whats going on.

PhantomKira
01-13-2011, 08:55 PM
I feel like chanting "FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!" High school BS, anyone? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Howsabout treating each other respectfully like the civil adults we all should be.

danjama
01-13-2011, 08:59 PM
Actually, i've quite missed having a troll/luftwhiner around.

Can we keep him? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

AndyJWest
01-13-2011, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by danjama:
Actually, i've quite missed having a troll/luftwhiner around.

Can we keep him? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Is he housetrained?

danjama
01-13-2011, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by AndyJWest:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
Actually, i've quite missed having a troll/luftwhiner around.

Can we keep him? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Is he housetrained? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe we should ask his previous owners? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

willyvic
01-13-2011, 11:04 PM
Keep it civil gang.

Thanks in advance.

WV

RSS-Martin
01-13-2011, 11:20 PM
I am just wondering if there is going to be any nitpicking between the games "Call of Duty CoD" and "Cliffs of Dover CoD" that should be interesting! Wonder will it be like with NG in the end? So that the game must be renamed back to Sow
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b75/paulhewson/z_SOW_SmellOfWomen_IL2.jpg

Ba5tard5word
01-13-2011, 11:28 PM
For another thing, a lot of the German aces with ridiculous kill counts (like over 200) got those kills against the USSR, whose air force was pretty woeful in the very early part of the war.


But yeah guys, please stop bickering. Can't we all get along? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

RSS-Martin
01-13-2011, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by Ba5tard5word:
But yeah guys, please stop bickering. Can't we all get along? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif
Hey this is the Ubi-Zoo....that is like hoping for Christmas and Easter to fall on one day...
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Jaws2002
01-14-2011, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
I am just wondering if there is going to be any nitpicking between the games "Call of Duty CoD" and "Cliffs of Dover CoD" that should be interesting! Wonder will it be like with NG in the end? So that the game must be renamed back to Sow


Was thinking about that. The last thing Oleg needs is another lawsuit. Are this guys at UBI really that thick. Cant they think about stuf like this in advance. Last time they totaly f#ked up with using names of US companies on the cover without proper use uf trademark rules.
Are they going to do this again and get into some legal chit storm with Activision over this title? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Ba5tard5word
01-14-2011, 12:59 AM
Having the same initials I don't think would be a problem. Activision does not call Call of Duty "COD," they call it by the full name. It would be a problem if it was called like "The Call of Duty: Battle of Britain" or something like that though.

Jaws2002
01-14-2011, 01:29 AM
This days you just never know. This large companies have lawyers doing nothing but trying to sue someone in the name of their employer. Why risk it.

relcox
01-14-2011, 01:45 AM
Seriously terrible name, I'm really disappointed in this choice, I'd wager it wasn't thought up by a Brit or German http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif

It's obvious to me that very little thought went into the name, as anyone here that has studied the Battle of Britain is aware and I'm sure there are many, all know full well that most of the skies over the British Isles was flown and fought over and during that incredible period in the history of air warfare.

As a Brit (and I maybe in the minority here I don't know about the feelings of my fellow countrymen/women)I find this new name rather insulting to the memories of the Battle.

Bottom line, not impressed.

Back to the Eastern Front now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

P.S. Apologies for the rant, sometimes I just have to say something.

RSS-Martin
01-14-2011, 02:06 AM
Well as a German, I say the name sounds kind of "fishy" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

TheGrunch
01-14-2011, 04:04 AM
It would have been better if they'd called it IL-2 Sturmovik Series: Cliffs of Dover, even. At the moment it just sounds nonsensical.

TX-Gunslinger
01-14-2011, 06:27 AM
I find myself a bit perplexed at the level of emotion a bit of semantics can generate these days.

At the risk of insulting the entire United Kingdom - I'd have to say, I think "Cliffs of Dover" isn't all that bad, if that's what the name is actually.

Maybe we have been waiting for this product for so long we've become attached to the title?

Somehow we lasted through "Ace's Expansion Pack" and "Pacific Fighters" without anyone ever complaining about the title (not that I can find or remember anyway).

For me, it's the content in the box thats most significant - not the outside wrapper.

DRM? I'm just glad the cost of the sim won't be $100+

We have never had any kind of invasive DRM in a single Il2 product so why would we expect one now?

I so wish SOW/COD would get released so that the relevant forums could return the their usual rants about other issues beyond anyone's control, like "Why did Oleg pork the MG/FF?"

S!

Gunny

JG52Uther
01-14-2011, 06:40 AM
As a Brit,I don't find the title 'Cliffs Of Dover' insulting.I DO find the 'IL2' bit very strange.People will think its an addon to the ten year old il2,rather than a brand new title.
I would hazard a guess that Oleg is not happy with it,but has to go with what the publisher wants.
Oh and Gunslinger,we won't mention the boontybox fiasco...

Feathered_IV
01-14-2011, 07:11 AM
Interestingly Oleg just said in the Friday update that the March release date is fake. Should be a few broken hearts over that one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

JG52Uther
01-14-2011, 07:32 AM
Not sure why you find that so funny.
It could be sooner FIV! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Personally,I think its done,but we have to wait for the publisher,and with ubi,that could be months...

ROXunreal
01-14-2011, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by relcox:
Back to the Eastern Front now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


Careful, the Russians are probably offended that the game is called Il-2 Sturmovik instead of The Great Patriotic War.

ElAurens
01-14-2011, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by TX-Gunslinger:
I find myself a bit perplexed at the level of emotion a bit of semantics can generate these days.

At the risk of insulting the entire United Kingdom - I'd have to say, I think "Cliffs of Dover" isn't all that bad, if that's what the name is actually.

Maybe we have been waiting for this product for so long we've become attached to the title?

Somehow we lasted through "Ace's Expansion Pack" and "Pacific Fighters" without anyone ever complaining about the title (not that I can find or remember anyway).

For me, it's the content in the box thats most significant - not the outside wrapper.

DRM? I'm just glad the cost of the sim won't be $100+

We have never had any kind of invasive DRM in a single Il2 product so why would we expect one now?

I so wish SOW/COD would get released so that the relevant forums could return the their usual rants about other issues beyond anyone's control, like "Why did Oleg pork the MG/FF?"

S!

Gunny

Gunny, if you keep making sense like this I will be forced to not fire on you if we meet over East Anglia.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Ba5tard5word
01-14-2011, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
Interestingly Oleg just said in the Friday update that the March release date is fake. Should be a few broken hearts over that one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Seriously? I had a feeling that would be the case, it seemed too good to be true. I would have expected them to announce a release date further out than 2 months, and to provide more information.

Is the COD moniker a fake too?

kimosabi79
01-14-2011, 11:00 AM
Cliffs of Dover sucks. If they don't name it "Flying T*its, My milkshake brings all the bois to the yard", I'm not buying it.

Mr_Zooly
01-14-2011, 11:56 AM
The name isn't just insulting...it's misinformed, misguided and just plain ridiculous, the BoB was fought over many areas of England (yes even the northern squadrons got some action (black Thursday 15th August to name but one instance)) and not just Dover but other southern towns and cities.
Bring back the original name slap the person who instigated the change, I was under the impression that SoW was a series title ie SoW: The Battle of Britain, then maybe SoW: The Battle for France etc...
I'll still buy it though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

thefruitbat
01-14-2011, 11:59 AM
personally, i couldn't care less if it was called 'Mr Pongo's flying circus'

I don't really tend to think about the name of il2 much when i'm playing it, more about the actual game itself http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

arthursmedley
01-14-2011, 01:27 PM
Ah, now I'm torn between Mr. Pongo or Kimosabi's suggestion. I must admit Kimo's name does have a certain ring to it.

Fruitbat; you're a local boy. This rather impressive 'technical' video at 30 seconds in;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&v=Z469HXN0hlQ

Tell me why there are trees growing on the beach? Is Kent well known for Mango swamps?

kimosabi79
01-14-2011, 01:30 PM
I'm gonna steal you two's avatar. Much gooder res and nicer.

*Edit* Oh hi Arthur. Snuck in for some spooning action? Are there no trees in Kent? Have Fruitbat cutted them all?

thefruitbat
01-14-2011, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by arthursmedley:


Fruitbat; you're a local boy. This rather impressive 'technical' video at 30 seconds in;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&v=Z469HXN0hlQ

Tell me why there are trees growing on the beach? Is Kent well known for Mango swamps?

WTF, is this thread turning into a dangerdogz day out, lol.

@Arthur, in short no.

there's trees at the bottom of the cliffs in Dover itself, mainly because the seas nowhere near them now due to the sea defenses/road/port etc... but in general at the bottom of the cliffs tends to be the sea http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

@Kimo, i'm working on it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

BadA1m
01-14-2011, 03:13 PM
It would be good at least to have a name that I don't have to repeat three times, then explain every time I tell someone about it.

What's that? Isle two? What the hell's that got to do with flying?

rfxcasey
01-14-2011, 03:18 PM
How about "Just hit fly!" or "Ok we'll restart.....AGAIN!!!"

Feathered_IV
01-14-2011, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by JG52Uther:
Not sure why you find that so funny.
It could be sooner FIV! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Personally,I think its done,but we have to wait for the publisher,and with ubi,that could be months...

I really don't think so. I wish, but no.
The sounds aren't final yet for at start. They are still working on placement of French objects according to Oleg. Plus the latest shots are still taken from an incomplete version dated just before Christmas. Not enough time for them to complete the game over the holidays.

A mock up of proposed packaging and a false release date don't make a complete game.

Jediteo
01-14-2011, 03:18 PM
I second Kimo's suggestion, I think that the title flying T#ts would sell really well.

How about Sgt. Oleg's luftie whiners banned?

rfxcasey
01-14-2011, 03:21 PM
How about "Hey, my TrackIR isn't working!"

Mr_Zooly
01-14-2011, 03:23 PM
looks like this thread is going to the dogs http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Jediteo
01-14-2011, 03:23 PM
How about 20 seconds II, Teamkill harder.

rfxcasey
01-14-2011, 03:24 PM
How about "I'll do air starts this time."

thefruitbat
01-14-2011, 03:24 PM
is this what dogging is?

rfxcasey
01-14-2011, 03:25 PM
This forum has lost all dignity. It has officially been dogged.

Jediteo
01-14-2011, 03:25 PM
It had dignity? Are you high or something?

rfxcasey
01-14-2011, 03:36 PM
Well, the air up here is pretty thin.

Jaws2002
01-14-2011, 03:39 PM
Who let the dogs out. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Uufflakke
01-14-2011, 03:42 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://www.petconnection.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/bigstockphoto_dogs_are_not_allowed_1904256.jpg

thefruitbat
01-14-2011, 03:43 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Dance
01-14-2011, 03:44 PM
Ah so this is what they mean by dogging http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

rfxcasey
01-14-2011, 03:44 PM
Just don't lift your leg to the couch or they will put us out for the night.

blairgowrie
01-14-2011, 03:47 PM
A farce to be reckoned with!

ElAurens
01-14-2011, 04:48 PM
Be careful or I will unleash Pigs on this place.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

kimosabi79
01-14-2011, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
Be careful or I will unleash Pigs on this place.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

http://www.foreverwallpapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Wolf-1.jpg

Bring on the little piggys! We're hungry! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Bearcat99
01-14-2011, 05:02 PM
Regardless .. as soon as it is released in hardcopy I will have it on my drive..

ElAurens
01-14-2011, 05:29 PM
Me too Bearcat.

ElAurens
01-14-2011, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by kimosabi79:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ElAurens:
Be careful or I will unleash Pigs on this place.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

http://www.foreverwallpapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Wolf-1.jpg


Bring on the little piggys! We're hungry! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Jaws2002
01-14-2011, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
Be careful or I will unleash Pigs on this place.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Yeah. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Let's see a blitzpigs vs dogs fight, like the good fun days with the blitzpigs vs Smoky Jaguar. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif Damn I miss those days. What a hoot. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

ElAurens
01-14-2011, 06:08 PM
Cliffs of Dover will bring a few of the old Pigs back, for a while anyway. Many have just moved on.

A few of us are still at it though.

Mercanario
01-14-2011, 07:27 PM
I dont know why anyone British would find the name Cliffs Of Dover an insult.
Vera Lyn, White Cliffs of Dover, Battle of Britain are all synonymous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...iM6c&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUx3MU9iM6c&feature=related)

jensenpark
01-14-2011, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by rfxcasey:
This forum has lost all dignity. It has officially been dogged.

I've been warning people about this problem for years and no one ever listened.

RSS-Martin
01-15-2011, 04:34 AM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
Cliffs of Dover will bring a few of the old Pigs back, for a while anyway. Many have just moved on.

A few of us are still at it though.
Oh there are more piggies than that! There is also a German squaudron call "Die fliegende Schweine"
http://www.fliegende-schweine.de/
I also fly when personal skins are allowed with a piggy! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/RSS-Martin/Comics/pig.gif
Even the little tykes like piggies!
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/RSS-Martin/Comics/pig-kiss.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/RSS-Martin/Comics/eusa_shifty.gif

RSS-Martin
01-15-2011, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by jensenpark:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rfxcasey:
This forum has lost all dignity. It has officially been dogged.

I've been warning people about this problem for years and no one ever listened. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P1tbxjHX_E
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

DKoor
01-15-2011, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by thefruitbat:
I love watching how many people want to cut of there nose to spite there face.

the i'm not buying SOW or COD whatever because.... (fill in blank)

personally i couldn't give a rats *** if these people don't buy it on some higher 'principle', whoever they are, because in the grand scheme of things a computer game is way down my list of things that are actually remotely important in the world.

me personally, i can't wait, and i'll be having fun playing it from day one, because i'm lucky and can.

+100

Urufu_Shinjiro
01-15-2011, 10:08 AM
Forget dogs, if pigs show up I'm calling these guys!

http://www.greatereader.org/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/7f922_angry-birds-live-action-video.jpg

Messaschnitzel
01-15-2011, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
Forget dogs, if pigs show up I'm calling these guys!

http://www.greatereader.org/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/7f922_angry-birds-live-action-video.jpg

You better call Biggin Hill instead. They're already over Battersea now:

http://dummidumbwit.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/spiderpig_big.jpg

Edit: Forget it, my mistake. That's one of the new barrage balloons which is designed to cause the attackers to assume that the area is already under friendly control and hopefully won't bomb it.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

RSS-Martin
01-15-2011, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
Forget dogs, if pigs show up I'm calling these guys!

http://www.greatereader.org/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/7f922_angry-birds-live-action-video.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/RSS-Martin/Comics/BR-online-Publikation--130735-20080519154121.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/RSS-Martin/Comics/137553349948964ca9963e8.gif
http://linguistlist.org/images/gratuitous_pig.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

DKoor
01-15-2011, 11:54 AM
He's sui, no doubt http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif .
Not many pigs that can think like men. Like one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif .

kimosabi79
01-15-2011, 01:02 PM
Where's my food?

Rjel
01-15-2011, 01:11 PM
I think any WWII history buff would recognize Cliffs of Dover, if that is to be it's title, as a BoB sim. I'm not sure of a more casual gamer and to me that is the bigger issue. If our hobby is going to continue we need to draw in a bigger segment of the gaming community as has been discussed here many times in the past.

Something else that I think needs to be addressed are the absolutely ugly box covers that have hindered IL2 from it's very beginning. Nothing about them is eye appealing to a casual shopper. We might not care about something like that as long time users, but most of us understand how most purchases can be impulsive. You aren't going to grab someone's attention with extra $$$ in their pocket with that box art. If that's the best Ubi's art department can come up with, then they need to hire some of the folks here who have posted far far better looking and more exciting screen shots that would better provide a prospective buyer with an idea of what comes in the box.

bun-bun195333
01-15-2011, 06:45 PM
I'd buy it if the name was "Cat Box Contents".
Two weeks - be sure...

http://pondstonecommunications.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/cute-kitten-sleeping-in-food.jpg

kimosabi79
01-16-2011, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
Forget dogs, if pigs show up I'm calling these guys!

http://www.greatereader.org/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/7f922_angry-birds-live-action-video.jpg

I tried out a friends iPad the other day and checked out Angry Birds. That game is hard to get away from man. LOL

Stiletto-
01-16-2011, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by Rjel:
I think any WWII history buff would recognize Cliffs of Dover, if that is to be it's title, as a BoB sim. I'm not sure of a more casual gamer and to me that is the bigger issue. If our hobby is going to continue we need to draw in a bigger segment of the gaming community as has been discussed here many times in the past.

Something else that I think needs to be addressed are the absolutely ugly box covers that have hindered IL2 from it's very beginning. Nothing about them is eye appealing to a casual shopper. We might not care about something like that as long time users, but most of us understand how most purchases can be impulsive. You aren't going to grab someone's attention with extra $$$ in their pocket with that box art. If that's the best Ubi's art department can come up with, then they need to hire some of the folks here who have posted far far better looking and more exciting screen shots that would better provide a prospective buyer with an idea of what comes in the box.


I didn't think I was going to get involved in this thread as I have had very much fun just reading... But yeah, calling it Cliffs of Dover is like calling a game like Call of Duty "BEACHES OF NORMANDY" or a Sub sim "WAVES OF THE PACIFIC" or a tank game "SNOW COVERED KURSK".

Also, the CoD abbreviation, I dunno about you guys but I abbreviate almost every game I am talking about when I'm chatting with people, that's going to get confusing when someone not in the know is going to think Call of Duty has accurate flight physics.

The name needs to describe what is happening at the location, not just here is the location. Obviously it would be silly to steal from Dynamix, but ACES over Dover sounds a hell of alot better, or WINGS over Dover, or maybe FIRE over Dover... or maybe... FLAMING CLIFFS of Dover! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I crack myself up sometimes...

Also, the IL-2 moniker could easily be replaced with "Forgotten Battles Series", though less known than the IL-2 naming, it would still fit and tell people who are familiar with the previous titles that it is from the same maker.

But then I don't work in marketing... I used to work with people in marketing.. And I am certain that I will (unfortunately) work with these silly people again, since goes with the territory of being in advertising. I can't even fathom what those people were thinking most of the time..

WTE_Galway
01-16-2011, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Stiletto-:

But then I don't work in marketing... I used to work with people in marketing.. And I am certain that I will (unfortunately) work with these silly people again, since goes with the territory of being in advertising. I can't even fathom what those people were thinking most of the time..

The marketing people at my university seem obsessed with something called "branding".

Basically anytime someone has a university pamphlet, poster, booklet or other publication looking good and ready to print they have to submit it to Marketing where it gets delayed three months while they decide if they want to approve the logo's and typeface.

The other big initiative was to confuse the locals by paying a fortune for individual custom air-brushed paint jobs covering university vehicles with penguins,sheep, over-sized colored pencils and similar oddities that have nothing whatsoever to do with the university http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

RSS-Martin
01-17-2011, 09:07 AM
To all that marketing stuff one can only say:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/RSS-Martin/Dontyouguyshaveanythingbettertod-13.jpg

tsisqua
01-17-2011, 11:38 AM
Is the music for the sim going to be composed by guitarist Eric Johnson?

Urufu_Shinjiro
01-17-2011, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by tsisqua:
Is the music for the sim going to be composed by guitarist Eric Johnson?

A brief google search for Cliffs of Dover seem to indicate this, lol.

PhantomKira
01-17-2011, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Stiletto-:
But yeah, calling it Cliffs of Dover is like calling a game like Call of Duty "BEACHES OF NORMANDY" or a Sub sim "WAVES OF THE PACIFIC" or a tank game "SNOW COVERED KURSK".

Also, the CoD abbreviation, I dunno about you guys but I abbreviate almost every game I am talking about when I'm chatting with people, that's going to get confusing when someone not in the know is going to think Call of Duty has accurate flight physics.

The name needs to describe what is happening at the location, not just here is the location.

Also, the IL-2 moniker could easily be replaced with "Forgotten Battles Series", though less known than the IL-2 naming, it would still fit and tell people who are familiar with the previous titles that it is from the same maker.

Right on, Stiletto-. Additionally, for the majority of the gaming crowd, if you say "War" or "Battle", their eyes light up, and their wallets crack open. Likely, they'll just walk by "Cliffs". People have short attention spans, usually when going for the snap-judgment buy. The picture will hopefully catch their eye, but you have only the few words of the title to get them interested, and get them to turn the box over to learn more. "Cliffs of Dover" isn't exactly what I'd call exciting or informative wording to get them interested, even with a pretty airplane on the front.

Chivas
01-18-2011, 01:22 AM
Its hard to believe so many people get their panties in a twist over the name of a game. Get over it. If the sim sucks then the name will soon be forgotten. If it excels it will be an even more successful brand than IL-2 already is.

IL-2 Strumovik is the Brand, and Cliffs of Dover is just the first in a series of names as the game progress thru the theaters of war.

The series won't live or die by the name on the package, its the content that really counts.

joeap
01-18-2011, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by Chivas:
Its hard to believe so many people get their panties in a twist over the name of a game. Get over it. If the sim sucks then the name will soon be forgotten. If it excels it will be an even more successful brand than IL-2 already is.

IL-2 Strumovik is the Brand, and Cliffs of Dover is just the first in a series of names as the game progress thru the theaters of war.

The series won't live or die by the name on the package, its the content that really counts.

+10000000

OMG, can't believe "pre-whining" has started over such a dumb issue.

leitmotiv
01-18-2011, 01:37 AM
I think COD, or "cod" is very on target considering the cod feeds a good number of the country on any given day.

ElAurens
01-18-2011, 05:29 AM
Originally posted by joeap:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chivas:
Its hard to believe so many people get their panties in a twist over the name of a game. Get over it. If the sim sucks then the name will soon be forgotten. If it excels it will be an even more successful brand than IL-2 already is.

IL-2 Strumovik is the Brand, and Cliffs of Dover is just the first in a series of names as the game progress thru the theaters of war.

The series won't live or die by the name on the package, its the content that really counts.

+10000000

OMG, can't believe "pre-whining" has started over such a dumb issue. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's even worse at the "Banana Forum".

Amazing.

DKoor
01-18-2011, 05:35 AM
Yeah, bunch of old pharts with nothing better to do in their lives... saying because young(er) people are usually much more open to new stuff.

Being old has nothing to do with actual years of age, BTW. It's state of mind.

RSS-Martin
01-18-2011, 05:53 AM
Well it is nothing new that blah blah has been around before every patch, and now with a new Version of the game coming out people just go bananas! Especially at the banana-forum as El mentioned - the DRM-thread is totally stupid, they don´t even take into account that Ubi has said that it is a one time registration only, they blab and blab on....looks like a lot of simpletons have a lot of free time!

Messaschnitzel
01-18-2011, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by PhantomKira:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Stiletto-:
But yeah, calling it Cliffs of Dover is like calling a game like Call of Duty "BEACHES OF NORMANDY" or a Sub sim "WAVES OF THE PACIFIC" or a tank game "SNOW COVERED KURSK".

Also, the CoD abbreviation, I dunno about you guys but I abbreviate almost every game I am talking about when I'm chatting with people, that's going to get confusing when someone not in the know is going to think Call of Duty has accurate flight physics.

The name needs to describe what is happening at the location, not just here is the location.

Also, the IL-2 moniker could easily be replaced with "Forgotten Battles Series", though less known than the IL-2 naming, it would still fit and tell people who are familiar with the previous titles that it is from the same maker.

Right on, Stiletto-. Additionally, for the majority of the gaming crowd, if you say "War" or "Battle", their eyes light up, and their wallets crack open. Likely, they'll just walk by "Cliffs". People have short attention spans, usually when going for the snap-judgment buy. The picture will hopefully catch their eye, but you have only the few words of the title to get them interested, and get them to turn the box over to learn more. "Cliffs of Dover" isn't exactly what I'd call exciting or informative wording to get them interested, even with a pretty airplane on the front. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If they really wanted this game to get bought on impulse, they should title it with something like 'Spitfire Vixens vs. Messerschmitt Kittens over Dover'. Portray the female pilots in uniforms similar to this and it'll be an instant success, even if the buyers don't like flight sims.

http://www.libidex.com/images/garmentimages/large/UN100%20Army%20Uniform/army2.jpg


Hey, if it sells like hotcakes, who cares if the game is not entirely historically accurate along with unimportant stuff like ammo types and effectiveness, weather conditions, etc. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

RSS-Martin
01-18-2011, 12:28 PM
Yes like they did with the game "B-17 Flying the mighty eighth" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
This could be a nice start for a "babe thread" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1002/fionaujfinalfs3.jpg