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Sillius_Sodus
06-24-2007, 03:47 PM
Is anyone out there using this stick? I've had Logitech sticks in the past and found they didn't last too long. I was just wondering if this stick might be different. I like the feel of the sticks, if only the lasted longer.

Good hunting,
Silius_Sodus

Sillius_Sodus
06-24-2007, 03:47 PM
Is anyone out there using this stick? I've had Logitech sticks in the past and found they didn't last too long. I was just wondering if this stick might be different. I like the feel of the sticks, if only the lasted longer.

Good hunting,
Silius_Sodus

tmrtex
06-24-2007, 08:25 PM
I have a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro going on 2 1/2 years now. Lots of posters tend to bash Logitech sticks for their lack of duribility.

I'm almost positive thats a piece of a ham sandwich wedged in the #5 button, and I spilled some beer the other day into the #9 button. I use that for cowl flaps so not real critical, although it still works fine, just has a mushy feel when pressing...hee hee. I love this stick because of it's low profile, heavy base, and all the buttons are nearly flush with the stick or base requiring minimal hand movement.

They're so inexpensive I have a backup in a box just in case, ready to go.

So there ya go, a positive review of a Logitech stick.

fabianfred
06-24-2007, 10:11 PM
I have 3 logitech sticks and they have all gone bottom up.
FF 3D strike force pro etc.

they feel great and have lots of good buttons...
that one has two hat switches too... and I like the wheel on the base for zooming view in and out...

pity they don't last

I've just ordered a new Aviator stick from ebay

polak5
06-25-2007, 02:59 AM
the 3d force pro was my first stick, it lasted maybe 8 months, then it became unusable. Next stick was a saitek FF and ive liked that even more than the force 3d. The saitek has more buttons which has made some manuvers easier. the only thing i dont like about the saitek and i luved about the force 3d was the placement of the slider (trottle setting).

My 2 cents.

Sillius_Sodus
06-25-2007, 05:52 PM
Hi,

Thanks for the responses. I'm no Logitech hater, I do like their sticks, to me they are the most comfortable I've found. I usually get about a year out of one before they start to lose their precision, which is not a big deal with most sims but a big issue with IL2.

I'm currently using an EVO which is just fine. I was looking for a new one as a spare but unfortunately neither Best Buy or Future Shop (Canada) stock them anymore http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif . I could order one online but even if I went with a nice cheap reconned one from Saitek the shipping and brokerage charges would make it a $100+ stick which is way too much for an EVO.

Good hunting,
Sillius_Sodus

Oz_Canuck
06-25-2007, 10:13 PM
I like mine..cheap, too...unfortunately,only sporadic use since birth of child..could last until daughter goes to uni........ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

ytareh
06-27-2007, 05:25 AM
I can think of no higher reccomendation for my Logitech Extreme 3d Pro (same as yours I think but without ForceFeedback)than that I bought a Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar and CH Rudder Pedals(200-400 of any mans currency!) and stopped using them soon after as I far and away preferred using my Logitech.(Definitely no more comfortable /anatomic hand grip available -for right handers.....)

ytareh
06-27-2007, 05:27 AM
I should qualify that statement by pointing out that I realise the many adoring Cougar users will thing Im MAD!!!I once read a guy who said that he preferred driving his Fiat Cinquecento Sporting to his Ferrari 348( I could kinda see where he was coming from.....)

sabbath27
07-17-2007, 02:12 PM
Sorry for digging up a semi-old thread, but if any of you guys see this I have a question:

So I just bought an Extreme 3D Pro (not the force feedback), and right out of the box I noticed a very slight (nit picking) 'mushiness' in pushing left on the hat switch. Up Right Down there is a crisp snap, but left is mushy. Have any of you noticed this? If not I might as well exchange this for a new one.

All others, please don't berate me too hard, yes I am an extreme noob, I just wanted to get something cheap(free, used my Best Buy gift card, nothing else I want there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ) to see if I will play enough to justify a nice CH or something http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Crash_Moses
07-17-2007, 02:29 PM
Extreme noobs welcome. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It seems to me even a new Logitech should have nice crisp buttons. Wouldn't hurt to take it back.

Not a bad stick to start out with, especially for the price. Once you're addicted then you can worry about upgrading. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

sabbath27
07-17-2007, 02:40 PM
re: addiction

I think I am well on my way as I stayed up til 4am (work at 8) last night learning to land my 109. About 2 for 10! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

But boy, I can take off like nobody's business now! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

crucislancer
07-17-2007, 03:31 PM
I have a Extreme 3D Pro that I got in 2000. I think the only reason it's lasted this long is because it only got sporadic use until recently. But, it's falling apart, and loses calibration very quickly. Time for a new stick.

Crash_Moses
07-17-2007, 08:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sabbath27:
re: addiction

I think I am well on my way as I stayed up til 4am (work at 8) last night learning to land my 109. About 2 for 10! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

But boy, I can take off like nobody's business now! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif Yup...that's stage one of IL-2 Syndrome.

Pshaw...I spent my vacation building another PC out of spare parts so I can run UDPSpeed (displays your aircraft guages on a networked PC).

Now I'm using Gimp to draw each instrument...kids haven't seen me in two weeks. Except to bring me food and an occasional sponge bath. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

LEBillfish
07-21-2007, 11:21 AM
Hi All;

Tried posting this on M4T yet head is a bit too fuzzy to deal with it, so here goes in the zoo...

Profile Clear (http://www.geocities.com/pfv78thsentai/downloads/profileclear.zip) is a simple and very basic .exe that was at one time supplied by Logitech as a means of dealing with persistant joystick troubles. All joysticks after a while seem to lose their calibration, centering and so on, and the problem often just gets worse and worse as time goes on......

What the utility does, is actually go into the registry and finds "profiles" for "some" HIDS (human interface devices, that remain there even if you delete the hardware....and quite simply deletes them.

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Now this is a VERY raw utility. Meaning, if you have Hota's, pedals and so on, it may very well WIPE OUT their profiles as well, so use at your own risk.
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SImply place the file anywhere you want (better still make yourself once placed on a drive a shortcut somewhere), and click on it letting it run. You may need to run it a few times to find them all, eventually, your registry will remain at the level you currently use.

That done I suggest the following order to resolve a very fussy stick.

1. Disconnect the stick and/or delete it from Start/Settings/Control Panel/Game Controllers.
2. Run Profile Clear.
3. Set the stick somewhere "perfectly level" (this is very important, and should be that way everytime you start up your pc).
4. Reconnect the stick, and reinstall if needed.
5. Simply "check" to make sure it is all centered in Start/Settings/Control Panel/Game Controllers/Properties......If not calibrate.

That is a one time thing to do...After that, simply insure the stick is always setting level when you start the pc, and if it starts getting fussy again simply unplug it, run profile clear, then plug it back in.

Setting Level is very important...Over time, a sticks springs weaken, and even the weight of the grip can shift the stick from center if on even the slightest incline (setting on its own wire say)......What happens is (don't ask me why)....The stick seems to assume that position is then center, hence the loss of calibration and throw.

Utilizing this utility, yet most importantly KEEPING THE STICK LEVEL AT PC START will make it so that old favorite gets a lot more use out of it before you assume it is junk......BTW, this is a primary reason most think their Logitech and old Sidewinder sticks are no longer any good.

K2

leitmotiv
07-21-2007, 09:01 PM
Yep, Billfish nailed it. This is the legendary Logitech "Clear Calibration Utility." Download it from the Logitech website any time your stick goes insane. This little gem ought to keep your Logitech stick humming for years. I am a big fan of Logitechs. I liked the Wingman Force 3D because it delivered a big dose of force feedback---bigger than the newer Force 3D Pro which, to my taste, is practically watered down to a non-FF stick (but it is a very precise, stable fighting stick). Now I use the Microsoft Sidewider 2 FF stick which is the mother of all FF sticks. Good luck.