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WOLFPLAYER2007
07-26-2007, 05:36 PM
If in BOB will we be able to fly big heavy bombers or we will continue to fly ****ty twin engined bombers?

berg417448
07-26-2007, 05:52 PM
Which 4 engined bombers participated in the Battle Of Britain?

WOLFPLAYER2007
07-26-2007, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by berg417448:
Which 4 engined bombers participated in the Battle Of Britain?

So the game will have only german and britsh aircraft?

berg417448
07-26-2007, 06:25 PM
And a few Italian aircraft.

Remember..BOB is just supposed to be the first of the Storm Of War series. 4 engine aircraft might be possible if the series is a success and later theaters are added.

WOLFPLAYER2007
07-26-2007, 06:30 PM
Thank you for the information..lets hope that BOB will be sucssesful!...my last long range bombing run was in CFS1 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

VW-IceFire
07-26-2007, 07:52 PM
If they are to do long range bombing campaigns then we should have all of the bits and pieces attributed with that type of campaign. If its by night then night fighters equipped with radar and bombers equipped with navigator radar (in 1944 anyways) are something that you have to think about. Apparently radar is going to be well modeled in the new sim so lets hope thats a springboard for some of that type of flying.

Battle of Britain is a great starting point and I think we'll see large bombers come along at some point. I don't like the people who think bombers are great but refuse to fly and use the twin engined bombers properly in the first place. We're going to be treated to a few of those twins right off the bat in Battle of Britain with the Blenheim IV, Ju-88A-1, and He-111 all flyable from the start. Which is nice.

If we're going to the Med after as the rumors suggest then hopefully we're talking about B-17s or B-24s alongside the Bostons, Baltimores, and others.

WOLFPLAYER2007
07-26-2007, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
If they are to do long range bombing campaigns then we should have all of the bits and pieces attributed with that type of campaign. If its by night then night fighters equipped with radar and bombers equipped with navigator radar (in 1944 anyways) are something that you have to think about. Apparently radar is going to be well modeled in the new sim so lets hope thats a springboard for some of that type of flying.

Battle of Britain is a great starting point and I think we'll see large bombers come along at some point. I don't like the people who think bombers are great but refuse to fly and use the twin engined bombers properly in the first place. We're going to be treated to a few of those twins right off the bat in Battle of Britain with the Blenheim IV, Ju-88A-1, and He-111 all flyable from the start. Which is nice.

If we're going to the Med after as the rumors suggest then hopefully we're talking about B-17s or B-24s alongside the Bostons, Baltimores, and others.

Dont forget the Lancaster and Halifax pleeeaaassee.

Skoshi Tiger
07-26-2007, 08:21 PM
I don't think my PC will handle a 1000 bomber raid! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

WOLFPLAYER2007
07-27-2007, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Skoshi Tiger:
I don't think my PC will handle a 1000 bomber raid! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Yea, you better be worried about BOB because im sure that we'll see near 1000 Heinkels over England.
But you will rarely see 1000 heavy bombers over anything because 500 heavies makes the job of 1000 medium bombers...or even better http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Skoshi Tiger
07-27-2007, 11:04 PM
500 bombers! 1 spitfire Mk1, 8 Browning Machine guns, 300 rounds per gun (on the MK1) thats 2400 rounds.

Now all I need is 'Tail Gunner' accuracy and I could almost get the lot! Even taking out the Pilot and Co-Pilot thats only 1000 rounds! Just need good triger control http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

csThor
07-27-2007, 11:51 PM
Those "1000 bombers" is simply a myth. With a few exceptions most intrusions were made by a Gruppe (roughly 40 bombers) plus an extensive fighter escort. From the german POV the british fighters were the primary target and they needed fighters to shoot them down - bombers were often just the bait.

NAFP_supah
07-28-2007, 05:51 AM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
If they are to do long range bombing campaigns then we should have all of the bits and pieces attributed with that type of campaign. If its by night then night fighters equipped with radar and bombers equipped with navigator radar (in 1944 anyways) are something that you have to think about. Apparently radar is going to be well modeled in the new sim so lets hope thats a springboard for some of that type of flying.

Battle of Britain is a great starting point and I think we'll see large bombers come along at some point. I don't like the people who think bombers are great but refuse to fly and use the twin engined bombers properly in the first place. We're going to be treated to a few of those twins right off the bat in Battle of Britain with the Blenheim IV, Ju-88A-1, and He-111 all flyable from the start. Which is nice.

If we're going to the Med after as the rumors suggest then hopefully we're talking about B-17s or B-24s alongside the Bostons, Baltimores, and others.

I'd love to see nightfighters! But first I'd love to see any information at all about Sow:BOB. The current drought of information about it doesn't look good to me.

VW-IceFire
07-28-2007, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by NAFP_supah:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
If they are to do long range bombing campaigns then we should have all of the bits and pieces attributed with that type of campaign. If its by night then night fighters equipped with radar and bombers equipped with navigator radar (in 1944 anyways) are something that you have to think about. Apparently radar is going to be well modeled in the new sim so lets hope thats a springboard for some of that type of flying.

Battle of Britain is a great starting point and I think we'll see large bombers come along at some point. I don't like the people who think bombers are great but refuse to fly and use the twin engined bombers properly in the first place. We're going to be treated to a few of those twins right off the bat in Battle of Britain with the Blenheim IV, Ju-88A-1, and He-111 all flyable from the start. Which is nice.

If we're going to the Med after as the rumors suggest then hopefully we're talking about B-17s or B-24s alongside the Bostons, Baltimores, and others.

I'd love to see nightfighters! But first I'd love to see any information at all about Sow:BOB. The current drought of information about it doesn't look good to me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Why doesn't it look good? Everyone is saying that but I'm not the slightest bit worried...I've not seen anything that worries me at all.

Chivas
07-28-2007, 11:47 AM
I'm not worried either. We should be getting some information shortly as Oleg had hoped to start updates this month. I would imagine the updates will start soon or Oleg will give us another update on the next possible start of updates. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Kongo Otto
07-28-2007, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by berg417448:
Which 4 engined bombers participated in the Battle Of Britain?

The Short Stirling was the only 4 engined Bomber
in British Service at that Time.

berg417448
07-28-2007, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Kongo Otto:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by berg417448:
Which 4 engined bombers participated in the Battle Of Britain?

The Short Stirling was the only 4 engined Bomber
in British Service at that Time. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Stirling did not attain perational status until January of 1941.

WOLFPLAYER2007
07-29-2007, 10:28 AM
The Stirling could hold more than 8 tons of bombs...**** this aircraft was fat... just 1 ton less than the load of the B29

Kongo Otto
07-29-2007, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by berg417448:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kongo Otto:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by berg417448:
Which 4 engined bombers participated in the Battle Of Britain?

The Short Stirling was the only 4 engined Bomber
in British Service at that Time. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Stirling did not attain perational status until January of 1941. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes you are correct.My mistake sorry.
No.7 Squadron had become the first Aircraft in
August 1940,but was ,as you said correct, operational at January 1941.

Skoshi Tiger
07-31-2007, 12:37 AM
I'd love to see nightfighters! But first I'd love to see any information at all about Sow:BOB. The current drought of information about it doesn't look good to me.

The Spitfire MkI/II was used as a night fighter with warious degrees of success early in the war. I'ld like to see the search lights modeled to be able to work in that role.

I read that they were so successfull that they forced the LW bombers to fly missions above 18000 feet or so (out of the range of the lights) at night which seriously reduced their accuracy.

polak5
08-17-2007, 04:34 AM
You can fly 4 engined bomber now

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bAYdD0qGxCk

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif what a tease....

JG53Frankyboy
08-17-2007, 04:49 AM
so far as its "known" till today, in SoW:BoB the flyable bombers will be:
Blenheim IV
He111 (different versions, H & P)
Ju88A-1
Ju87B http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
FIAT Br.20M

sounds good im my ears , espacially if compared to the amount of flyable bombers in the original IL2 release http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

carguy_
08-17-2007, 01:15 PM
Making a single engined aircraft for BoB takes up to 6 months.From the general tone of Oleg interview I`d say there would be few or maybe even no flyable 4 engined bombers.

Gitano1979
08-17-2007, 01:33 PM
If 4 engined will be, i wish there are not all the gunner stations modelled. Less work to model --> better probability to see them in SOW...

i wish also they will fly in realistic combat formations, not the fighter-wise mode we have now!

WOLFPLAYER2007
08-18-2007, 12:40 AM
Heinkel 111 sucks, they couldnt badly hold 2000 tons of bombs and it was slow.

what saves it is that it was a beauty.