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Benito5
10-14-2005, 06:25 AM
please oleg maddox added this plane in fb+ep+pf
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Alfarrabista/3908.htm yes this bomber attak italian ships in battle of harpoon droop the bobms to trento cruisere italian this plane is a goood bomber in campain of africa.

269GA-Veltro
10-14-2005, 08:01 AM
Yes, a very nice bomber:

http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Alfarrabista/3908.jpg

...but i don't think we'll have other bombers after the A20C and Ju 88. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

BTW a brit flyiable bomber would be a nice addition, BRISTOL BLEMHEIN first of all (AI now).

p1ngu666
10-14-2005, 09:00 AM
well, we only have the blehium as AI, and will be getting the IV mossie... we lacking any other homegrown bomber i think...

is somewhat odd, considering 70% of casulties in the RAF where bomber command airmen http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

its depressing to haveto dress up a betty as a wellington http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

269GA-Veltro
10-14-2005, 09:45 AM
Agree...

....Wellington...a wonderfull aircraft...no doubts about it, a very important bomber in the WW2 aviation history. The same for the Lancaster.

Mossie is a "sui generis" aircraft, not exactly a standard two engine bomber.

About A20C....if i'm not wrong i've seen some pics about brits A20C in the MTO...is it possible?

BTW, my bump for the Brits!

Zyzbot
10-14-2005, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:
Agree...

....Wellington...a wonderfull aircraft...no doubts about it, a very important bomber in the WW2 aviation history. The same for the Lancaster.

Mossie is a "sui generis" aircraft, not exactly a standard two engine bomber.

About A20C....if i'm not wrong i've seen some pics about brits A20C in the MTO...is it possible?

BTW, my bump for the Brits!


I think the Britush called it the Boston IIIA.

p1ngu666
10-14-2005, 12:06 PM
its highly likely that it was used in the med by the RAF.

in england they where operated by 2 group and 2nd TAF

Beaufort-RAF
10-14-2005, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Benito5:
please oleg maddox added this plane in fb+ep+pf
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Alfarrabista/3908.htm yes this bomber attak italian ships in battle of harpoon droop the bobms to trento cruisere italian this plane is a goood bomber in campain of africa.

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Nice to hear the Trento mentioned. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

The coup de grace was issued by a Royal Navy submarine but it was crippled and left ablaze by a Beaufort torpdeo attack.


About A20C....if i'm not wrong i've seen some pics about brits A20C in the MTO...is it possible?

Absolutely, the RAF & SAAF flew the Boston in North Africa & Italy.

http://www.pewteraircraft.com/RAF/BOSTON/Boston-JA.jpg

Aaron_GT
10-14-2005, 04:30 PM
About A20C....if i'm not wrong i've seen some pics about brits A20C in the MTO...is it possible?

Also famously used by No. 23 squadron on intruder missions into France, replacing their Blenheims. The A20s were themselves replaced by Mosquito NF.IIs on intruder missions in France and retained when No.23 moved to the Med.

ElAurens
10-14-2005, 05:36 PM
The Havok/Boston was quite successful in every theatre it was used in.

It was by far the best light bomber in the South Pacific.

p1ngu666
10-14-2005, 09:25 PM
hm i remmber someone saying the a20 havoc ingame, can outrun the japanease planes in the onwhine war they where flying

ElAurens
10-14-2005, 09:41 PM
Well..that all depends on situation.

As a side note, I spoke with a former A 20 pilot at the USAF Museum during the 40th anniversary celebration of the USAF. I asked him how fast his A 20 could go. His answer was wonderful: "It depends on who is chasing you."

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p1ngu666
10-14-2005, 09:46 PM
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i dont really like the a20 ingame, the fat rudder in the way, the no gun cut out combined with dodgy clippin meanin u often blast your own tail..

rather have mossie, and the extra 100mph or so http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

269GA-Veltro
10-15-2005, 03:40 AM
Thank you guys! So we could fly a RAF Boston in the MTO mission. Great!

Btw...@to my brit friends i say... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif...Regia Aeronautica is coming, prepare for the battle!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
The next time Trento will be saved! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

VW-IceFire
10-15-2005, 07:20 AM
The A-20G is fast enough at low levels to nearly outpace most of the 109 and 190 crowd if they aren't trying hard enough.

I've had a few running gun battles with 109s where I was just fast enough that they could not really re-position without spending alot of time trying to catch up.

In these lucky instances, I managed to pop a few .50cals into their engine and the game was up. Other days I'm not so lucky and my wing is snapped off right away.

ElAurens
10-15-2005, 07:34 AM
I'm assuming the thet A20C will have a bombsight. This could make for some interesting "Pathfinder" missions. Also, as the C models are lighter than the Gs they should be faster.

And I agree with Veltro, the Blenheim is desperately needed. Especially with the Singapore and upcoming Burma maps.

p1ngu666
10-15-2005, 08:43 AM
yeah the bombsite will be nice http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ElAurens
10-15-2005, 01:20 PM
Any info on the C model's bomb load?

p1ngu666
10-15-2005, 03:34 PM
http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Aircraft/Boston.htm

and this, right at the bottom is interesting
http://home.att.net/~jbaugher2/b25_17.html


Normal bomb load was 3000 pounds, but a maximum bombload of 4000 pounds could be carried on short-range missions. Some had underwing racks for eight 5-inch high velocity aircraft rockets (HVARs).


in "day bomber" the writer mentions dropping 4 1000lb'ers. was in the ETO, so short range, and the RAF ones had less crew, and less equipment. think it was a crew of 4



http://www.torontoaircrew.com/Boston_III/boston_iii.html

http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/A-20_Boston

http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_us/a20i.html

seems like 2000lb's

269GA-Veltro
10-16-2005, 04:36 AM
Fulmar would be another very interesting brit aircraft for FB. We could have a lot of fun with it, and nice mission over the sea (recon, armed recon, naval mission ecc. ecc.).