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XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 04:25 PM
Does anyone know where you could get some lead plates? I'm considering replacing the metal weights in my stick with something a little heavier, so I though lead might be the way to go. But, I have no idea where you could get something like this. I've never seen anything of the sort in the typical hardware/homestore. I'm in Northeastern U.S. Does anyone know a local or an online source for stuff like this?

XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 04:25 PM
Does anyone know where you could get some lead plates? I'm considering replacing the metal weights in my stick with something a little heavier, so I though lead might be the way to go. But, I have no idea where you could get something like this. I've never seen anything of the sort in the typical hardware/homestore. I'm in Northeastern U.S. Does anyone know a local or an online source for stuff like this?

XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 04:27 PM
uh, not sure what you're talking about, they have weights in joysticks? try google, yahoo, or your local electronics store /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Tully__
07-22-2003, 04:37 PM
See your local tyre dealer, used tyre weights will probably suit your need.....

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XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 04:37 PM
Any fishing tackle store will have a very large variety of shapes and sizes of lead weights. You can also get tungsten and brass weights in the bass fishing pro shops.

XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 04:41 PM
RS_LT_Aligator wrote:
- uh, not sure what you're talking about, they have
- weights in joysticks?

Yes, they do. Since a plastic shell, a few plastic parts, some wire and a small PCB don't really weigh all that much, a lot of companies put a bunch of metal plates together and screw them up inside the stick housing to give it a little girth. And not just flight sticks. This is done with a lot of electronics. Here, check it out:

http://www.dansdata.com/images/tmsticks/f2pplate480.jpg

Those plates, while they serve their purpose, are not heavy enough, IMO. If I can replace them with the same size plates in lead, the stick would weigh a TON. Nice & stable on the table >8)

XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 04:42 PM
Ah! Tire & Fishing stores! Thanks for the tips. This is just the kind of thing I was looking for. I never would have thought of looking there. I've got a place not far from the house. Thanks!

XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 06:05 PM
Tully's tire store idea is better. If forgot about that one. The weights are a perfect shape for your application and they will probably just give them to you.

XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 09:24 PM
Now I'm getting nervous about my idea. Some of the googling I turned up talks about it being dangerous. I know lead poisoning is a bad thing, but I thought you only got that from prolonged direct exposure. If I have several chunks inside my flight stick, will they eventually break up and get into the air or something? I don't know much about the properties of lead. And, it's not like I'll actually be touching the stuff.... any opinions?

XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 09:42 PM
I don't want my stick moving at all. I use clear silicone to glue it down. It peels off later if I need to remove it.

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XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 09:44 PM
lead does not become airborne in the situation you're suggesting. it would be harmless. i'd be more worried about screwing up my stick than lead poisoning. i would suggest wearing rubber gloves while handling raw lead. i work for an electronics manufacturer. we work with lead all the time and it's completely safe, so long as you're careful not to handle it without gloves and not to ingest it. here's a suggestion, once you get the lead items you want to use, take some electronics solder (lead/tin alloy) from radio shack or your local hardware store and melt it into the cracks to bond the pieces together. this would kill any vibration between the layers and add some weight at the same time.

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XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 11:57 PM
With a little bit of work you could melt down the lead fishing weights and make a custom formed weight.

Sort of like people making their own bullets.

Tully__
07-23-2003, 03:08 PM
CPS_Dragonaire wrote:
- lead does not become airborne in the situation
- you're suggesting. it would be harmless. i'd be more
- worried about screwing up my stick than lead
- poisoning. i would suggest wearing rubber gloves
- while handling raw lead. i work for an electronics
- manufacturer. we work with lead all the time and
- it's completely safe, so long as you're careful not
- to handle it without gloves and not to ingest it.
- here's a suggestion, once you get the lead items you
- want to use, take some electronics solder (lead/tin
- alloy) from radio shack or your local hardware store
- and melt it into the cracks to bond the pieces
- together. this would kill any vibration between the
- layers and add some weight at the same time.
-


If you're really worried, lacquer it before you put the cover back on the stick internals.

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fluke39
07-23-2003, 03:51 PM
as long as you don't eat it or inhale the fumes (when molten)i think lead is fairly harmless

ii'm sure many people have heard of these little 'lead miniatures' fantasy figures - which are sold to any age - child to adult (the only reccomendation being don't chew them)

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XyZspineZyX
07-23-2003, 06:08 PM
fluke39 wrote:
- as long as you don't eat it or inhale the fumes
- (when molten)i think lead is fairly harmless

unless someones shooting it at ya /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-23-2003, 09:03 PM
Taylortony wrote:
- fluke39 wrote:
-- as long as you don't eat it or inhale the fumes
-- (when molten)i think lead is fairly harmless
-
- unless someones shooting it at ya

Heh... thanks everyone. I think I'm going to give those model train/car weights a try. You can get them coated and they have adhesive on the back. I just want to add a little beef to the throttle on my ABII. The stick doesn't come off the desk much, but the throttle tends to tip a bit sometimes.

Buzz... you silicone your stick down?! Hehe... cool idea.

XyZspineZyX
07-28-2003, 05:49 PM
Blind-SC- wrote:
- Does anyone know where you could get some lead
- plates? I'm considering replacing the metal weights
- in my stick with something a little heavier, so I
- though lead might be the way to go.

UPDATE (for anyone interested):

I found a model car/train/plane shop nearby that had the self-adhesive lead weights that come in small gram " Ӕ " sizes. They worked like a charm!! I was able to get lbs. of these for $6 USD. I opened up both the stick & throttle of my TM Afterburner II and started sticking these to the free spaces along the inside of the bottom covers. It added just the perfect amount of extra beef I was lookng for in both pieces, especially the throttle, which I put a little more weight into than the stick. I definitely recommend doing this for anyone who's got a cheaper stick like mine that wants to give it a bit more stability on the desktop.