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snowdawg1
04-24-2005, 08:38 PM
This will be the last entry of Lieutenant Jr. Snowdawg. On our first patrol after sinking 2 merchant vessels in grid # BF17 we were on our way back to Kiel when we spotted a 14 vessel convoy in Grid BF33 heading South with 2 Escorts. We submerged and snuck up on the V&W Destroyer at the rear, sinking it with one shot. Since the Armed Trawler was way up in front, We surfaced and went straight to the Tankers with the deck gun blazing. It never occurred to me that they would even try what happened next. As I was on the bridge I looked to starboard and saw a C2 merchant vessel bearing down right on top of me. I order a crash dive and managed to get below, but we were too late. The C2 struck us just behind the conning tower and forced us down on to the sea bed We are now sitting on the bottom with both diesel and electrical engines destroyed, our rudder blown off and leaking diesel marking location. My incredible crew has managed to stop the leaks and we have no injured or dead. ( YET! ) Warrant Officer Zinke on sonar reports enemy Warships are closing fast. I can€t move and if I surface I will be shot to ribbons or runover again. I have asked the Liaison Officer from UBISoft to push the surrender button, he has informed me there is no such button aboard this vessel. How can you build a submarine that can travel thousands of miles and submerge hundreds of feet under the water and not have a surrender button when everything falls to ****. He Said you are in the German Kriegmarine and you will fight well or die fighting! The Crew has just placed our UBISoft Liaison Officer in torpedo tube # five and fired it with the outer doors closed. Warrant Officer Zinke reports Warships are on us. €œ Depth Charges in the water!€. I will place this log in a sealed container in hopes it is found.

Last entry of the U-49
Lieutenant Jr. Snowdawg
and 51 souls onboard

P.S. When on the surface near a Convoy, Watch your backs !!!!
Really need a Surrender Button !!!

PPSS Really love this Game

CapBackassward
04-24-2005, 09:02 PM
Good post. Maybe they will get around to a surrender option. There were U-boats that surrendered. U-352 surrendered off the North Carolina coast during the war. Some of the crew died and a large number were taken aboard the USCG Cutter Icarus before the damaged sub finally sank. Icarus had depth charged the sub in a 114 feet of water.

Rick

Iphicles2005
04-24-2005, 11:07 PM
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RedTerex
04-25-2005, 12:00 AM
I re-call being in similar circumstances last week.

I remember staying on the bottom about 300 feet and silent running..even though static.
I stayed there in silent mode for about 5 hours and surfaced about 20 or so hours later...to a nice clear sea and I managed to crawl her home on one partly damaged engine.

An "abandon ship" feature however, would have been a nice option like in SHI I think it was.

Indianer.
04-25-2005, 02:24 AM
An abandon ship option WITH cinamatics showing the crew leave the boat....not just a death screen as we have now.

that would be cool

snowdawg1
04-27-2005, 01:24 AM
I know they are busy working on other things for the patch and stuff and I really think they did a good job on the game. I have been one of the lucky ones I geuss and only had a little trouble in the beginning but that was my own machine (Wrong Chipset drivers) But for the guys playing in realistic mode, the captain should be doing what ever he could to save his crew in a situation like this. Even if it means sitting the rest of the war as POW's. If not in the patch, maybe for SH4.

BlitzPig_Rivet
04-27-2005, 07:51 AM
I agree that a surrender option would be good, snowdawg1, although I can't help wondering if it would be used un-necessarily on occasion. I do realise that in your case, being totally immobilised you have no other option. I love the UBI Liaison Officer's fate - classic http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Here's a story of my 11th patrol. I would have been tempted to use the surrender option on a couple of occasions had it been available.

We had just been re-located to St. Nazaire. Our trusty VIIB U-47 was re-armed, fuelled up and ready to go.

We were in good spirits until our orders came through. "Patrol grid AN52!" What?? Why didn't they send us there when we were based at Kiel? Well it was a long way back up the west coast of Ireland and up past Scapa again, so I elected to try and sneak through the English Channel. This was a bad mistakein December 1940.

I thought we were doing ok, (we got a C3 Cargo on the way), until we reached the Dover Strait. Man, it's sewn up tighter than a gnat's chuff . We got bounced by just about half the British fleet! There were about 5 destroyers, numerous armed trawlers (some with DC's), and to add to the irritation a couple of torpedo boats. There were others being alerted by the minute. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I thought "Man, this is it, but I'm not giving up." Now that old Channel isn't deep and with all those ships spread around me like the tentacles of an octopus, I didn't have many options. My hydrophone guy was spinning that wheel like there was no tomorrow and whispering contact headings.

There could quite possibly be no tomorrow. I'm not sure how, but one destroyer ended up on the bottom, it certainly wasn't me - I was just trying not to be noticed. After some evasive knuckles and other maneuvres (and getting nowhere) I decided to try to hide beside the stricken destroyer, silent and on the bottom. By this stage my stern dive planes were already destroyed together with both the deck gun and the flack gun. We had bad flooding in the stern torpedo room but my well qualified repair crew did an excellent job and managed to repair the leak and pump out the water. The forward deck and radio antenna were also destroyed. I think at some stage of the proceedings every compartment of the boat suffered damage of varying degrees. My repair detail was extremely busy. Occasionally I had to risk working the repair crew with enemy ships pinging me. It was either that or sink. This is desperation.

After about 5 hours of this cat and mouse, a lucky hit by a DC destroyed both periscopes. I wasn't getting anywhere like this and hull integrity was down to 30%. I figured I'd be just about out of the Strait, and in another 30 minutes it would be dark. Co2 levels were rising and I needed to surface soon. I decided to go for broke. I ordered full speed ahead when the enemy were behind me. The hydrophones were ok. There was no point ordering flank speed as the engines were already damaged and it was no faster than full speed.

So, here we are trying to outrun destroyers at a maximum submerged speed of 6 knots. It's a sphincter factor of 10, I'm blind, stern dive planes out, very little oxygen, deck and AA guns destroyed and bridge badly damaged. The stern Sub-Lieutenants quarters were also destroyed . I have no idea how, other than alternating between full speed, knuckles, and going silent, but eventually the sounds of the props were getting fainter astern. Had we done it? Had we finally shaken them off, or had they just given up the chase? I was past caring. It was dark now, and if we didn't surface now, I doubted that we ever would. I owed it to my veteran crew of 10 patrols to try.

I gave the order, "Surface the boat". Like a tired leviathan struggling for it's last breath we broke the surface into a starlit night. You could have heard our breathing over the noise of the diesels as we gulped down the cold Atlantic air. We'd made it - for now.

My crew, repaired what they could which consisted of the bridge and uzo. We limped our way to Wilhelmshaven, the nearest friendly base. I thought that given the state of the boat, it was the most prudent thing to do.

Um, I think I'll give the Channel a miss next time. It's getting far too busy.

Just goes to show - if you can move, never give up. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

snowdawg1
04-27-2005, 11:53 AM
Nice Post Blitzpig_Rivet. Its sounds like you were very close to my situation there. And yes if I could have done anything to move my craft I would have tried it. But alas it was not to be. I find I get very drawn in to this game and try to make decision the way I think a real Captain of a U-boat would have, and as always the survival of my crew would be important to me. ( Yes it was my mistake getting them into that pickle cause I was too busy shooting that tanker to see the C2 sneak up on me. My Bad ) But I wish I could have done more for them ( Sniff ) They were all so young (sniff) and now I think my new crew has heard about the last one. They are watching me. All of them. Even the Deck Crew. Always watching me. Some how they KNOW!!!!!!! OH GOD!!! THEY KNOW!!!!

U-49
04-27-2005, 01:12 PM
Good war stories, both snowdawg1and BlitzPig. I enjoyed reading 'em. Thanks for sharing.

BlitzPig_Rivet
04-27-2005, 01:29 PM
Thanks snowdawg1. Yes, I had serious doubts on surviving that one. With a less experienced crew, (especially repair) I think it would have been the end.

You're right in that this game does indeed draw you in, not least in these desperate situations. I think I was actually sweating at one stage http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Of the two of us, it would seem that lady luck had a broader smile for me this time around. Snowdawg, you need to stamp your authority on your rookie crew before the whisperings and mistrust get out of hand. Before you know it, you will be known as Kapitan Lieutnant Jonah throughout the Kriegsmarine http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

I wish you good hunting on your future patrols.

U-49, thanks. Glad you enjoyed them.

Hyper_Fish
04-27-2005, 03:22 PM
Perhaps surrender shouldn't be a permanant option, but something that your Chief Engineer could suggest as a last resort, such as being immobilised. That way you know you're in deep trouble. Ignore him for too long under adverse circumstances, like going after that last convoy with only one engine left and 12% hull integrity, and you get mutinied for being a nork.