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bernardp55432
02-21-2008, 11:01 AM
Just wondering, is there anyone like me that would like to have a good sim based on the planes of the 1950's during the Korean war?
I think it would be great to fly the F86 Sabre and have dog fights with the last of the real dog fighter aircraft. The Sabre and the Mig going at it at high speed and still useing guns would be great.

Mr_Zooly
02-21-2008, 11:12 AM
http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/sim/targetkorea/index.html

VW-IceFire
02-21-2008, 04:01 PM
Rumors are that "Project Galba" from the same folks who brought us the IL-2 1946 content are working with Oleg's new Storm of War engine and are producing a Korean based sim. We've even seen some leaked 3D models.

http://rrgstudios.com/EN_02_08_UnnamedTitle.shtml

So maybe...who knows. It'll be a year or more before I think we have any idea.

ploughman
02-21-2008, 04:10 PM
Oleg confirmed Galba was an RRG Studios Korean War sim based on the SoW engine, although RRG have yet to formally announce leaked info indicates it's in progress although I recollect that SaQson seem to indicate that quite alot of their effort was temporarily directed elsewhere (BoB?) recently.

Some pics.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/mctomney/YAK.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/mctomney/f86.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/mctomney/P82.jpg

ElAurens
02-21-2008, 07:24 PM
F-82....

*Drool*

*Pant*

*ETC*

mortoma
02-22-2008, 06:57 PM
Sweet!! I used to love playing Mig Alley for a while. Had it's limitations but it could be fun.

AlGroover
02-22-2008, 08:16 PM
A few years ago I bought a 3rd party add on for CFS2 with the unpromising title of Sabre vs MiG for $10 in a clearance sale. It was actually pretty good and I certainly got more than $10 worth of fun out of it.

woofiedog
02-23-2008, 04:21 AM
That P-82 is a real Beauty... and waiting for the chance to sit in it's seat and take it for a spin! Wicked http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

stansdds
02-23-2008, 08:09 AM
You won't see this until after the release of Storm of War, which will be in (fill in the blank with your guess of month and year).

Fork-N-spoon
03-02-2008, 10:04 AM
Say, did the P-82 use the M3 or the old M2 standby?

Jaws2002
03-02-2008, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by Ploughman:



http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/mctomney/P82.jpg



Nice.......



200 points. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Choctaw111
03-02-2008, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by Fork-N-spoon:
Say, did the P-82 use the M3 or the old M2 standby?

That is a GREAT question and one that I never thought about...until now. Does anyone know?

Another question about it. It still has only 6 guns in the wings which would make it even more of a nightmare from a convergence standpoint given the extra distance between the guns with the added center wing section. That's just a side thought.
The main question is why were guns never put IN the center wing section? Was it due to that space being reserved for fuel or some other important item?

Patriot_Act
03-02-2008, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by Choctaw111:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fork-N-spoon:
Say, did the P-82 use the M3 or the old M2 standby?

That is a GREAT question and one that I never thought about...until now. Does anyone know?

Another question about it. It still has only 6 guns in the wings which would make it even more of a nightmare from a convergence standpoint given the extra distance between the guns with the added center wing section. That's just a side thought.
The main question is why were guns never put IN the center wing section? Was it due to that space being reserved for fuel or some other important item? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

All the guns were in the center section.
Alternately a gun pod could be carried
in place of the RADAR pod, also in the center.

P.A.

Bo_Nidle
03-03-2008, 05:14 AM
I am REALLY looking forwards to this Korea sim. I've always been interested in the Korean conflict and being able fly two of North American Aviations greatest creations makes me go all giggly and girly! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

About ten years ago I was in my house in central England on a Sunday afternoon when I heard the sound of jets engines approaching. I immediately realised that the engine note was unusual and dashed to an upstairs window in time to see an F-86 Sabre in Korean War USAF colours flying wing to wing with a Mig 15!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif Awesome sight! They were very low and returning from an airshow to Duxford flying NW to SE. It remains a very vivid memory even now!

With regards to the F-82's armament: the prototype XP-82 had six M2 .50's contained in the wing centre section which were augmented by a further 8 M2's in the centre pod but the gun pod was never used operationally. The gun-pod was subsequently replaced by a radar-pod for operational use.

The second prototype was fitted with the faster firing M3 .50's in the centre wing. This was carried over into production with the P-82B/C/D and continued with the F-82E/F/G/H.

This appears to be either the F/G or H versions as shown by the flame dampening exhausts. It is most likely the G or H as these were the only versions deployed to Korea.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/mctomney/P82.jpg

Cannot wait to roll that into the paint shop. Lots of schemes lined up.

A notable achievement for the F-82 was the first air-to-air victory of the Korean war. This occurred on the 27th June 1950. The aircraft was flown by 1st Lt William "Skeeter" Hudson with Lt Carl Fraser as radar operator. They were tasked with covering the evacuation airlift from Kimpo and Suwon. They encountered enemy aircraft attempting to break up the airlift and subsequently shot down a North Korean Yak 11. However there is some dispute as to the validity of this claim as Lt Charles Moran shot down a Yak 9 at virtually the same moment. Later the sameday Major James Little shot down a NKAF La7 giving the F-82G type its third kill.
http://www.riveting-images.com/Mike_Machat_s_Aviation_Art/Mike_Machat_s__Everything_She_/Mike_Machat_s__High_Noon_at_Ki/Machat_High_Noon_500pxl.jpg
"High noon at Kimpo" by Mike Machat

I just hope its flyable. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Rjel
03-03-2008, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Bo_Nidle:
I just hope its flyable. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

It will be when the modders/hackers get to it...... sorry. Couldn't resist. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Doug_Thompson
03-03-2008, 11:21 AM
Whatever happened to "Knights of the Sky," the WWI sim?

JG53Frankyboy
03-03-2008, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by Doug_Thompson:
Whatever happened to "Knights of the Sky," the WWI sim?

http://www.gennadich.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1504&pos...order=asc&start=1755 (http://www.gennadich.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1504&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1755)

tagTaken2
03-05-2008, 02:37 AM
WHEN?

M_Gunz
03-05-2008, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by mortoma:
Sweet!! I used to love playing Mig Alley for a while. Had it's limitations but it could be fun.

It gave a good idea of stall with swept wings! Wait to see the posts on that!