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jmk396
04-08-2005, 08:33 AM
I'm currently using an MS Sidewinder Precision Pro 2 joystick. It's really starting to show it's age and while learning to fly (MS Flight Simulator 2004, IL-2) I'm having a tough time and I think it's partially due to the crappy (?) joystick.

So... I'm wondering what is currently the best joystick for somebody who isn't a diehard flight simmer? (but perhaps I'll become diehard)

The Saitek X52 looks really nice and thats the one I'm leaning towards, but I've heard that the axes (axises?) don't respond very well and that the reliability is questionable.

...or instead of buying a new joystick should I buy a TrackIR 3 Pro? I'm tempted to buy a TrackIR instead of a new joystick, but what's the use of being able to see better if I can only barely control the simulator to begin with?

jmk396
04-08-2005, 08:33 AM
I'm currently using an MS Sidewinder Precision Pro 2 joystick. It's really starting to show it's age and while learning to fly (MS Flight Simulator 2004, IL-2) I'm having a tough time and I think it's partially due to the crappy (?) joystick.

So... I'm wondering what is currently the best joystick for somebody who isn't a diehard flight simmer? (but perhaps I'll become diehard)

The Saitek X52 looks really nice and thats the one I'm leaning towards, but I've heard that the axes (axises?) don't respond very well and that the reliability is questionable.

...or instead of buying a new joystick should I buy a TrackIR 3 Pro? I'm tempted to buy a TrackIR instead of a new joystick, but what's the use of being able to see better if I can only barely control the simulator to begin with?

Bearcat99
04-08-2005, 02:49 PM
Go here (http://store.yahoo.com/saitekusa/recprod.html) and get a reconditioned X-45 joystick for $39 US. Then go here (http://www.provantage.com/buy-22043985-ch-pro-pedals-usb-shopping.htm) and get a set of CH rudder pedals. Total cost? $129..... as opposed to spending $129 for an X-52. Dont get me wrong TIR is great. But with the X-45 and pedals combo in my opinion you will get more enjoyment in your simming. The X-45 has a mouse pan feature that will give you smooth panning, it just takes a little getting used to but once you do it is great. I still use mine when my TIR2 decides to jump all over the place....

Airmail109
04-08-2005, 02:57 PM
Bearcat, you and ivan are about the best mods I ever had the honour of being modded by! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Just thought Id say that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bearcat99
04-08-2005, 03:01 PM
Why thank you...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Phas3e
04-08-2005, 03:08 PM
I am in the same boat,
my ol' PP2 just isnt cutting it and X52s are out in New Zealand at the moment so im looking at either waiting for one of them, getting an X45 and pedals or getting a trackIR.
Now my beast is about due for an upgrade for Battlefield 2 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
sooo much to buy so much time to save to get it all

-HH- Beebop
04-08-2005, 04:52 PM
Both.

If you follow Bearcats' advice and add TIR3Pro your total cost is only $268.

$268 you say!!!

Well you can spend as much as $500 for a complete Cougar system and then, as I understand, you can spend another $200-$300 getting it made bullet-proof.
Mind you cougar is considered the caviar dream of HOTAS, but my X-45 has treated me like a girl in ove for nearly a year now.

Believe me, unless you tend to slam your sitck around like a WWE wrestler (that did sound a bit.....strange didn't it?) you probably won't be disappointed in the least. You will own the most immersive flight sim and the most immersive control system currently available.

Good luck on your decision.

LW_Icarus
04-08-2005, 05:41 PM
I like the X-52, don't have a problem with deadzone as some people report. I also like my old X-45, and used it well with the rocker rudder.

so 39 bucks for a reconditioned x-45. then see if you get involved or interested enough to spend rudder pedal and trackir money

Or get the X-52 somewhere locally that will let you return it if you don't like it.

I had a generic joystick when I picked up IL2, it certainly made it more difficult for me to fly. and the logitech FFB I tried was horrible.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
04-09-2005, 10:33 AM
Hmm having run with an X45 (now starting to breath its last on me) and Tir3pro for some time now. I have got to admit I am reaching the end of my teather with crappy plastic joysticks/and hotas combinations. The best buy I made were my non-usb chpro pedals they realy have performed excellently and do exactley what it says on the tin.

X45 is by far the best introductory hotas but after a couple of years if your still playing sim pilot then maybe the cougars price is justifyable in the long run?

http://www.simw.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=dsp_product_details&pid=307

IAFS_Painter
04-09-2005, 12:12 PM
Hmmm - get HOTAS first (X-45) would be a good way to go.
TiR is great, but unless you're made of money, it wont keep you flying - the joystick will.

BTW - I use X-45 throttle and Sidwinder JS (wonder where I got THAT idea - Bearcat)