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zomgcookie
11-04-2010, 01:33 PM
Throughout the story it is explained that Desmond escaped from his family, from the farm, an assassins headquarters. Knowing about the war between the Templar's and Assassins he never uses his real name until he goes to get a motorcycle license. Abstergo is able to find him through the information he gives and captures him. So whenever Ubisoft decides to make a modern AC what motorcycle would you like Desmond to own, not just commandeer. I think a white Ducati 848 would be nice. http://motoaus.com/images/stories/ducati2008/2008-ducati-848.jpg
How bout you?

magesupermaster
11-04-2010, 01:35 PM
I kind of picture Desmond as having his own unique motorcycle that he built probably by himself.

notafanboy
11-04-2010, 01:35 PM
maybe a hayabosa ?

glenneey
11-04-2010, 01:38 PM
sounds great magesupermaster

zomgcookie
11-04-2010, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by magesupermaster:
I kind of picture Desmond as having his own unique motorcycle that he built probably by himself. Or one Lucy helped him with http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

DeafAtheist
11-04-2010, 01:41 PM
I agree with MageMaster... I pictured Desmond having a Chopper. He lived off the grid in attempt to avoid being tracked by Assassins in his order or by Templars so it stands to reason that he build his own chopper rather than buying a retail motorcycle that would lead a paper trail to him.

SlimeDynamiteD
11-04-2010, 01:43 PM
Either that one or a Kawasaki Ninja
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2007models/2007-Kawasaki-NinjaZX-14i-small.jpg

ninja_7_7
11-04-2010, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by DeafAtheist:
I agree with MageMaster... I pictured Desmond having a Chopper. He lived off the grid in attempt to avoid being tracked by Assassins in his order or by Templars so it stands to reason that he build his own chopper rather than buying a retail motorcycle that would lead a paper trail to him.
Not a chopper. It will be white I think and 1000cc engine. I wont take a guess at the model only because that is unknown. It will be a speed bike though. Like the Ducati 848 posted above.

zomgcookie
11-04-2010, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by DeafAtheist:
I agree with MageMaster... I pictured Desmond having a Chopper. He lived off the grid in attempt to avoid being tracked by Assassins in his order or by Templars so it stands to reason that he build his own chopper rather than buying a retail motorcycle that would lead a paper trail to him. Desmond having a Chopper is like Altair and Ezio riding beasts of burden, slow for the job and imo uncool.

magesupermaster
11-04-2010, 01:49 PM
Glad to know there are others that think like me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I don't know a lot about bikes and motorcycles but I'll probably be happy with what they will come up with eventually..

SlimeDynamiteD
11-04-2010, 01:53 PM
This one's beast:
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com...saki-NinjaZX-14i.jpg (http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2007models/2007-Kawasaki-NinjaZX-14i.jpg)

I'd love to see Desmond on that :P

zomgcookie
11-04-2010, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by SlimeDynamiteD:
This one's beast:
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com...saki-NinjaZX-14i.jpg (http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2007models/2007-Kawasaki-NinjaZX-14i.jpg)

I'd love to see Desmond on that :P Leads to a page of diff motorcycles not just the ninja

DeafAtheist
11-04-2010, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by zomgcookie:
Desmond having a Chopper is like Altair and Ezio riding beasts of burden, slow for the job and imo uncool.

A crotch rocket is too flashy and draws too much attention. Desmond would want to keep a low profile. Looking cool and turning heads was not what he would be going for when he was living off the grid.

Plus a chopper can be fit with saddle bags and such in case he needed to pack up his stuff and move on because people he was avoiding were closing in on his location. A speed bike is impractical for a person who is living on the run.

SlimeDynamiteD
11-04-2010, 01:58 PM
Oh what?! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif
To me it links to a picture of this awesomesauce Kawasaki Ninja >.< Hold on...

This better?
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2878/kawasakininjaawesomesau.jpg

EDIT: Yea that works! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sparty2020
11-04-2010, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by DeafAtheist:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by zomgcookie:
Desmond having a Chopper is like Altair and Ezio riding beasts of burden, slow for the job and imo uncool.

A crotch rocket is too flashy and draws too much attention. Desmond would want to keep a low profile. Looking cool and turning heads was not what he would be going for when he was living off the grid.

Plus a chopper can be fit with saddle bags and such in case he needed to pack up his stuff and move on because people he was avoiding were closing in on his location. A speed bike is impractical for a person who is living on the run. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>As a motorcycle fanatic I would rather have Desmond on a bicycle than a chopper. Chopper's are incredibly loud, incredibly cumbersome, slow, and a pain in the ***. The only thing good about choppers are that it uses alot of cheap gas. Not exactly something for an assassin, especially in Italy where they prefer sleek nice vehicles (Ferrari's and Lamborghini's as an example) over America where large, loud, obnoxious vehicles are the craze (Hummers and Trucks come into mind).

I think a custom bike would be the best bet as long as its a sports bike. Sleek, small, quiet, and fast is the name of the game with those things. And they look bad@$$

Sparty2020
11-04-2010, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by SlimeDynamiteD:
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EDIT: Yea that works! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif sorry for the double post but SEXY SEXY SEXY SEXY SEXY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SlimeDynamiteD
11-04-2010, 02:14 PM
I KNOW RIGHT! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I SO want that motorcycle!

zomgcookie
11-04-2010, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Sparty2020:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DeafAtheist:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by zomgcookie:
-snip- As a motorcycle fanatic I would rather have Desmond on a bicycle than a chopper. Chopper's are incredibly loud, incredibly cumbersome, slow, and a pain in the ***. The only thing good about choppers are that it uses alot of cheap gas. Not exactly something for an assassin, especially in Italy where they prefer sleek nice vehicles (Ferrari's and Lamborghini's as an example) over America where large, loud, obnoxious vehicles are the craze (Hummers and Trucks come into mind).

I think a custom bike would be the best bet as long as its a sports bike. Sleek, small, quiet, and fast is the name of the game with those things. And they look bad@$$ </div></BLOCKQUOTE> This. Bikers are everywhere dude, not just America. Plus in AC, a horse clacking along the road is hard to ignore so noise doesn't matter in other AC games. They'll always hear you coming on a vehicle. But yes a sleek speed bike fits the style plus i would never get on a chopper.

ninja_7_7
11-04-2010, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by DeafAtheist:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by zomgcookie:
Desmond having a Chopper is like Altair and Ezio riding beasts of burden, slow for the job and imo uncool.

A crotch rocket is too flashy and draws too much attention. Desmond would want to keep a low profile. Looking cool and turning heads was not what he would be going for when he was living off the grid.

Plus a chopper can be fit with saddle bags and such in case he needed to pack up his stuff and move on because people he was avoiding were closing in on his location. A speed bike is impractical for a person who is living on the run. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Its the opposite. Speed bikes are everywhere. Now if you saw a custom built chopper you would look at it right? He is not going to carry things he wants to be as light as possible or wear a backpack. Plus a speed bike can get away. I would love to see Desmond on a green kawasaki zx 10r but if anything it will be white http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif.

younas456
11-04-2010, 02:27 PM
he wont have the ninja but the limited edition only one example was made THE!!!!! "kawasaki ASSASSIN"

SlimeDynamiteD
11-04-2010, 02:28 PM
Lol yea xD

Caligula__
11-04-2010, 02:49 PM
You could ask DecanDK (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/4071083098) to make an epic motorbike, his Assassin's car and Templar's car are pretty epic

notafanboy
11-04-2010, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Vx_McTavish_xV:
You could ask DecanDK (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/4071083098) to make an epic motorbike, his Assassin's car and Templar's car are pretty epic
ive got mcla i could make a nice bike http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

DeafAtheist
11-04-2010, 03:07 PM
On 2nd thought I don't think he'd have a chopper. I was originally thinking of something he built himself, but that doesn't necessarily have to be the case.

Rethinking here, I'd say he probably would ride an older model Triumph that he bought 2nd hand and restored. Not a speed bike either. I still disagree with that. A speed bike is just too flashy and high profile. I'd say something like a 1990ish Triumph Thunderbird.

zomgcookie
11-04-2010, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by DeafAtheist:
On 2nd thought I don't think he'd have a chopper. I was originally thinking of something he built himself, but that doesn't necessarily have to be the case.

Rethinking here, I'd say he probably would ride an older model Triumph that he bought 2nd hand and restored. Not a speed bike either. I still disagree with that. A speed bike is just too flashy and high profile. I'd say something like a 1990ish Triumph Thunderbird. An old man trying to feel young revving his chopper while traveling in a pack of other old men acting obnoxious and weird to get noticed and feel cool is not something id like to picture while playing as an efficient assassin. In the previous AC games, who wouldn't notice you clacking around on an armored warhorse? The point of the vehicles is a faster way to get around that fits the character. Cant see Desmond ever having a chopper. Safely believe the majority would agree. Sorry if i offended you.

Edit: reread your post, and all motorcycles are flashy, a faster one would fit the assassin role. Not an old refurbished Triumph.

steelernati0n
11-04-2010, 04:20 PM
theres a pretty sweet assassins car posted here:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1069024/m/4071083098 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/4071083098)

DeafAtheist
11-04-2010, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by zomgcookie:
An old man trying to feel young revving his chopper while traveling in a pack of other old men acting obnoxious and weird to get noticed and feel cool is not something id like to picture while playing as an efficient assassin. In the previous AC games, who wouldn't notice you clacking around on an armored warhorse? The point of the vehicles is a faster way to get around that fits the character. Cant see Desmond ever having a chopper. Safely believe the majority would agree. Sorry if i offended you.

Edit: reread your post, and all motorcycles are flashy, a faster one would fit the assassin role. Not an old refurbished Triumph.

Not all chopper owners are old men. There are a lot of younger guys that ride them as well. But yeah, I changed my mind about the chopper because I didn't think it really fit.

You guys gotta keep in mind here that prior to being kidnapped by Abstergo Desmond wasn't an assassin. He belonged to the Assassin order by being born into it and had had some training, but he did NOT want any part of it which is why he was on the run and living off the grid. So he wasn't at the time an "efficient assassin".

He would be trying to shake the assassin image and look like an average guy living off what he could fit on his back and on his bike. He would not be buying a brand new bike because it would leave a paper trail which he was trying to avoid. If you go into a bike shop and buy a brand new bike you have to show documentation and fill out paperwork. If you buy from a private owner often you can get away without showing any documents or filling out any paperwork by buying it under the table.

Like I said a speed bike is impractical for someone who is doing a lot of riding or may need to travel a great distance like someone who is living on the run. They aren't comfortable enough to ride for long periods of time and don't offer much storage space for belongings.

All motorcycles are NOT flashy. If someone passes me on the road on a touring cycle I would hardly take notice... someone zooming by me on a Ducati may as well be driving a Ferrari for how little they obviously care about being inconspicuous.

So I stand by my opinion that he would not be trying to look like a sleek assassin zooming around Europe on a superbike. He'd be driving a 2nd hand sports touring bike that he probably restored or at least maintains himself. The bike wouldn't be too old or too new because being too old would make it a classic and unlike other bikes on the road. Being too new would be too noticeable and likely have required a paper trail to acquire it.

So like I said a mid to late 90's Triumph Thunderbird would probably be most fitting for the character.

And no, it doesn't offend me that anyone here may disagree with me. We're all entitled to our opinions.

ninja_7_7
11-04-2010, 04:27 PM
I still dont understand how speed bikes are flashy? If you drive anything fast people will take notice.

itsamea-mario
11-04-2010, 04:29 PM
when he described he said something like "guilty pleasure" or something along those lines, meaning it wouldn't be his main mode of transport, just something he likes, you know for fun, i doubt his entire life is spent being every second of the day.

zomgcookie
11-04-2010, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by DeafAtheist:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by zomgcookie:
-snip- Cant bring up the having to sign paperwork as he already did when he went to get his license. Making that point invalid, and how was he trying to shake the assassin image? All he said was that he didn't want to be controlled. As he was never allowed to see the world outside the farm. If i were in his boots, 25 and getting a motorcycle of my choice, id go with the superbike.

SWJS
11-04-2010, 04:36 PM
I agree with DeafAtheist. If I saw anything like the bikes people are posting, and I were a templar, I'd immediately think "Assassins, how typical." RuleOfCool doth not equal practical.


Not exactly something for an assassin, especially in Italy where they prefer sleek nice vehicles (Ferrari's and Lamborghini's as an example) over America where large, loud, obnoxious vehicles are the craze (Hummers and Trucks come into mind). Hahah, really now. Are you seriously going by egregious stereotypes to try and pass off these sleek white hotrods as viable transport for Desmond?

I live in America my friend, and I assure you, I see more sports bikes than I do choppers, and a Hummer is about as rare as bigfoot in my area.

Try doing a little more research than just basing your assumption of what we drive of what you see on Mr. TV. I believe I got told off for that, on this very forum.


Cant bring up the having to sign paperwork as he already did when he went to get his license.
What's worse, getting a little license, or being arrested for not having one and getting a criminal record?


Making that point invalid, and how was he trying to shake the assassin image?
He says so in AC1, to Lucy. He was purposely living off the grid, so his parents, or anybody hired by them, or anyone else, couldn't find him. He didn't want to be found.

And, after his little fiasco with Abstergo, that's even more-so now.

DeafAtheist
11-04-2010, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
when he described he said something like "guilty pleasure" or something along those lines, meaning it wouldn't be his main mode of transport, just something he likes, you know for fun, i doubt his entire life is spent being every second of the day.

Dude someone living on the run wouldn't have multiple modes of transportation. They'd have one dependable ride. So by "guilty pleasure" he probably opted to have a motorcycle instead of a car but it would still likely be his only mode of transportation because someone living off the grid may need to move at a moment's notice and take what little he has with him leaving nothing behind that could be traced to him.

DeafAtheist
11-04-2010, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by zomgcookie:
]Cant bring up the having to sign paperwork as he already did when he went to get his license. Making that point invalid, and how was he trying to shake the assassin image? All he said was that he didn't want to be controlled. As he was never allowed to see the world outside the farm. If i were in his boots, 25 and getting a motorcycle of my choice, id go with the superbike.

The license was his mistake which got him caught but otherwise he would have been trying to be careful and avoid a paper trail. So no, he would not have bought a brand new bike from the shop.

He was trying to shake the image because he didn't want to be found by either the Assassin Order or the Templars. It's common sense. When you are trying to get away from your old life you shed your old image that would make you readily recognizable.

Desmond would not be trying to look cool or be cool. He'd be being practical.

NuclearFuss
11-04-2010, 04:45 PM
He wouldn't have a motorcycle. He'd have a unicorn. Ezio has one: http://i53.tinypic.com/jhyp0z.jpg

notafanboy
11-04-2010, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by sackboy411:
He wouldn't have a motorcycle. He'd have a unicorn. Ezio has one: http://i53.tinypic.com/jhyp0z.jpg
how fast can it go ?

NuclearFuss
11-04-2010, 04:54 PM
It travels by rainbow so the speed of light

notafanboy
11-04-2010, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by sackboy411:
It travels by rainbow so the speed of light
and i thought the hayabosa was fast

ninja_7_7
11-04-2010, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by notafanboy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sackboy411:
It travels by rainbow so the speed of light
and i thought the hayabosa was fast </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
hayabusa hayabusa hayabusa hayabusa BUSA

flyryassassin
11-04-2010, 05:47 PM
Yamaha V-Max 4 sure

flyryassassin
11-04-2010, 05:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztrPR3BR_zQ

yea V-Max for sure

zomgcookie
11-04-2010, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by DeafAtheist:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
when he described he said something like "guilty pleasure" or something along those lines, meaning it wouldn't be his main mode of transport, just something he likes, you know for fun, i doubt his entire life is spent being every second of the day.

Dude someone living on the run wouldn't have multiple modes of transportation. They'd have one dependable ride. So by "guilty pleasure" he probably opted to have a motorcycle instead of a car but it would still likely be his only mode of transportation because someone living off the grid may need to move at a moment's notice and take what little he has with him leaving nothing behind that could be traced to him. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Hes not living on the run Jesus Christ...he said he was a bartender lol. Bartenders don't leave town every week. He wanted to settle into a new life where he was free and could make his own choices. Don't forget Templar's aren't going to shout "hey look another guy in a cool looking vehicle. APPREHEND HIM IMMEDIATELY!" This is the 21st century where most people have some form of transportation, it really doesn't matter which one will make it easier to identify hes not driving a tank for Christs sake. We're just discussing what we think fits his personality, if you think a refurbished bike is what fits him, good for you. Don't go around talking about paper trails and him 'living on the run' when the most he did was relocate and when asked "whats your name" replied some random crap.

X10J
11-04-2010, 07:22 PM
can't see Desmond on a chopper. got to go with a sport bike like a Ducati 996. white and red of course.

zomgcookie
11-04-2010, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by X10J:
can't see Desmond on a chopper. got to go with a sport bike like a Ducati 996. white and red of course. Don't you think the headlights on the 848 look better?

ninja_7_7
11-04-2010, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by zomgcookie:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by X10J:
can't see Desmond on a chopper. got to go with a sport bike like a Ducati 996. white and red of course. Don't you think the headlights on the 848 look better? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>much

DeafAtheist
11-04-2010, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by zomgcookie:
Hes not living on the run Jesus Christ...he said he was a bartender lol. Bartenders don't leave town every week. He wanted to settle into a new life where he was free and could make his own choices. Don't forget Templar's aren't going to shout "hey look another guy in a cool looking vehicle. APPREHEND HIM IMMEDIATELY!" This is the 21st century where most people have some form of transportation, it really doesn't matter which one will make it easier to identify hes not driving a tank for Christs sake. We're just discussing what we think fits his personality, if you think a refurbished bike is what fits him, good for you. Don't go around talking about paper trails and him 'living on the run' when the most he did was relocate and when asked "whats your name" replied some random crap.

From Assassin's Creed Wiki (http://www.psu.com/PS3-Assassins-Creed--Brotherhood-will-be-same-as-360-version--a009931-p0.php) :


After leaving the Assassin compound, he went into hiding for nine years. While keeping a low profile, he eventually became a bartender. Aware of the Knights Templar, and wanting to avoid both them and the Assassins, Desmond never used his real name and used only cash to purchase items. However, he was eventually found, traced through a fingerprint needed for a motorcycle license, and was brought to the Abstergo laboratory.

Someone living in hiding is the same as being on the run dude. Being on the run doesn't necessarily mean you're always moving every week. It simply means that you make sure you are able to move fast if you're exposed and the place you've settled into is no longer safe to stay at. That's what makes a bartending job ideal, because it's possible to get such a job without paperwork. One could be paid to do that under the table... happens all the time and he could leave at any time if he felt exposed.

Of course Templars aren't going to shout about some guy in a cool vehicle and to apprehend him. That's not the point. The point is when you are in hiding you don't do things that call attention to yourself including driving vehicles that are impractical and make you more noticeable. Point is he would be less likely to be discovered by keeping a low profile and driving a vehicle that wouldn't call unnecessary attention to him. It's just totally unrealistic for someone in his situation to be cruising around on a speed bike drawing unnecessary attention to himself.

X10J
11-04-2010, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by zomgcookie:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by X10J:
can't see Desmond on a chopper. got to go with a sport bike like a Ducati 996. white and red of course. Don't you think the headlights on the 848 look better? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

you are most certainly correct. also maybe a ninja, cause you know killer.

zomgcookie
11-04-2010, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by DeafAtheist:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by zomgcookie:
Hes not living on the run Jesus Christ...he said he was a bartender lol. Bartenders don't leave town every week. He wanted to settle into a new life where he was free and could make his own choices. Don't forget Templar's aren't going to shout "hey look another guy in a cool looking vehicle. APPREHEND HIM IMMEDIATELY!" This is the 21st century where most people have some form of transportation, it really doesn't matter which one will make it easier to identify hes not driving a tank for Christs sake. We're just discussing what we think fits his personality, if you think a refurbished bike is what fits him, good for you. Don't go around talking about paper trails and him 'living on the run' when the most he did was relocate and when asked "whats your name" replied some random crap.

From Assassin's Creed Wiki (http://www.psu.com/PS3-Assassins-Creed--Brotherhood-will-be-same-as-360-version--a009931-p0.php) :


After leaving the Assassin compound, he went into hiding for nine years. While keeping a low profile, he eventually became a bartender. Aware of the Knights Templar, and wanting to avoid both them and the Assassins, Desmond never used his real name and used only cash to purchase items. However, he was eventually found, traced through a fingerprint needed for a motorcycle license, and was brought to the Abstergo laboratory.

Someone living in hiding is the same as being on the run dude. Being on the run doesn't necessarily mean you're always moving every week. It simply means that you make sure you are able to move fast if you're exposed and the place you've settled into is no longer safe to stay at. That's what makes a bartending job ideal, because it's possible to get such a job without paperwork. One could be paid to do that under the table... happens all the time and he could leave at any time if he felt exposed.

Of course Templars aren't going to shout about some guy in a cool vehicle and to apprehend him. That's not the point. The point is when you are in hiding you don't do things that call attention to yourself including driving vehicles that are impractical and make you more noticeable. Point is he would be less likely to be discovered by keeping a low profile and driving a vehicle that wouldn't call unnecessary attention to him. It's just totally unrealistic for someone in his situation to be cruising around on a speed bike drawing unnecessary attention to himself. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Frankly we're just speculating and repeating the same argument over and over again. Lets let the guys over at Ubisoft decide :P

ninja_7_7
11-04-2010, 09:14 PM
Motorcycle = helmet = conceal identity = Kawasaki ninja is the best = this argument is stupid now. No ones opinion will change until we get straight answers.

zomgcookie
11-04-2010, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by ninja_7_7:
Motorcycle = helmet = conceal identity = Kawasaki ninja is the best = this argument is stupid now. No ones opinion will change until we get straight answers. Both are equally badass but the Kawasaki is Japanese so may be harder for him to acquire..

X10J
11-04-2010, 09:22 PM
They probobly won't have an actual brand. more likely just a generic sport bike.

zomgcookie
11-04-2010, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by X10J:
They probobly won't have an actual brand. more likely just a generic sport bike. This

SWJS
11-04-2010, 09:25 PM
Motorcycle = helmet = conceal identity = Kawasaki ninja is the best
"Ooooh look at me, I'm Desmond the assassin! I'm riding around on my super kewl totally not-conspicuous superbike being an obnoxious showoff and not acting like an assassin at all. This very expensive and super awesome bike isn't conspicuous at all, and all that paper work I just did defiantly can't help the templars trace me! Look Lucy! No hands! lololololololololololol" *CRASH*

X10J
11-04-2010, 09:27 PM
mate, motercycles aren't all that ostentacious.

ninja_7_7
11-04-2010, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by zomgcookie:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ninja_7_7:
Motorcycle = helmet = conceal identity = Kawasaki ninja is the best = this argument is stupid now. No ones opinion will change until we get straight answers. Both are equally badass but the Kawasaki is Japanese so may be harder for him to acquire.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I did forget he was in Italy but Ducati's are expensive especially on a bartender salary. Plus it is easy to acquire a Ninja in American even though they are made in japan.

SWJS
11-04-2010, 09:31 PM
Mate, motorcycles aren't all that ostentatious.
No, but a bright white Kawasaki Ninja? Seriously? For people who preach what is and isn't assassin-like all the time, you sure seem to want him to stick out like a sore thumb on an expensive hotrod.

X10J
11-04-2010, 09:33 PM
@ EA: hey mate you seem a bit hostile. but look at it this way. we know he's got a motercycle. a sport bike seems more his style, to me at least. white is what assassins wear it seems likely that the trend will continue. But Idk what do you think he'd ride


@ ninja: actualy, now I think he's on escaping assassin salary.

ninja_7_7
11-04-2010, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by EzioTheAssassin:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Mate, motorcycles aren't all that ostentatious.
No, but a bright white Kawasaki Ninja? Seriously? For people who preach what is and isn't assassin-like all the time, you sure seem to want him to stick out like a sore thumb on an expensive hotrod. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
White isnt bright but their bright green is my future motorcycle and is very ostentatious http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif.

DeafAtheist
11-04-2010, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by ninja_7_7:
Motorcycle = helmet = conceal identity = Kawasaki ninja is the best = this argument is stupid now. No ones opinion will change until we get straight answers.

Please tell me that's not a serious answer. 2 different formidable groups are looking for someone... one which has near unlimited financial and technological resources at their disposal in which to aid the search. You don't think that if they suspect someone they'd not put them under surveillance and identify them when they removed the helmet? I don't think Desmond would wear the helmet 24/7.

You really thought that one out, huh?

X10J
11-04-2010, 09:45 PM
Food for thought: We may never know. They're on the run and left the country. Maybe he didn't pack his bike.

SWJS
11-04-2010, 09:45 PM
@ EA: hey mate you seem a bit hostile. but look at it this way. we know he's got a motercycle. a sport bike seems more his style, to me at least. white is what assassins wear it seems likely that the trend will continue. But Idk what do you think he'd ride
Sorry if I come off as hostile. Text is hard to convey emotion in. Think about it like this, Desmond is a bartender with a tattoo who likes hoodies, jeans, black t-shirts with what appears to be death-metal style logos on them, and motorcycles. What kind of bike usually fits that type of personality? Surely not a Kawasaki hotrod.

Also, let's not forget that with all he's learned, plus the fact that he is now an official assassin on the run from the ever oppressive Templars, he wouldn't just go buy a new one, and he wouldn't get something that would stick out. Instead, he would choose a very common bike. "Hide in plain sight."

Right?

DeafAtheist
11-04-2010, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by X10J:
Food for thought: We may never know. They're on the run and left the country. Maybe he didn't pack his bike.

It's possible they could show flashback scenes in a game of that time before he was kidnapped by Abstergo and might show the bike he rode. I've also heard rumors of a film being made surrounding Desmond's beginnings which is likely to show Desmond with his bike unless they start the film the same way they started AC1 and don't have any flashbacks of that time.

X10J
11-04-2010, 09:56 PM
I understand the "emotion-text proboblem"

I missed the tattoo. Whats it look like?

Hoodies: He's an assassin. He's got to where the uniform. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jeans: who doesn't?

Black T: It's actualy a raptor(I think).I had one like it made by element.

Kawasawki: more of a joke actualy. ninja, assassin, get it? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

He seems a bit city to like choppers and such to me.

Disclaimer: the preceding was not trying to be argumentative. realy want to see that tattoo.

zomgcookie
11-04-2010, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by EzioTheAssassin:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">@ EA: hey mate you seem a bit hostile. but look at it this way. we know he's got a motercycle. a sport bike seems more his style, to me at least. white is what assassins wear it seems likely that the trend will continue. But Idk what do you think he'd ride
Sorry if I come off as hostile. Text is hard to convey emotion in. Think about it like this, Desmond is a bartender with a tattoo who likes hoodies, jeans, black t-shirts with what appears to be death-metal style logos on them, and motorcycles. What kind of bike usually fits that type of personality? Surely not a Kawasaki hotrod.

Also, let's not forget that with all he's learned, plus the fact that he is now an official assassin on the run from the ever oppressive Templars, he wouldn't just go buy a new one, and he wouldn't get something that would stick out. Instead, he would choose a very common bike. "Hide in plain sight."

Right? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Not death metal style logos bro, but an eagle. Hoodies are the most unbikerish thing ever. A lot of people have tattoos, and hes not wearing a jean jacket dude don't even try to pull that.

EVERYBODY!! LETS NOT FORGET THIS IS THE 21ST CENTURY, THERE ARE DIFFERENT FLASHY AND GARBAGE VEHICLES EVERYWHERE, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT KIND HE HAS BUT WHAT FITS HIS PERSONALITY!

Frankly, no valid arguments have been given about him leaning towards a chopper or a used bike or anything, just that he'd have a fast cool looking one. Good for a young man wanting to impress women or go really fast. He has to have some luxuries while 'on the run' as you guys love to say.

X10J
11-04-2010, 10:02 PM
I don't work at Ubi. I can't know.

ninja_7_7
11-04-2010, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by DeafAtheist:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ninja_7_7:
Motorcycle = helmet = conceal identity = Kawasaki ninja is the best = this argument is stupid now. No ones opinion will change until we get straight answers.

Please tell me that's not a serious answer. 2 different formidable groups are looking for someone... one which has near unlimited financial and technological resources at their disposal in which to aid the search. You don't think that if they suspect someone they'd not put them under surveillance and identify them when they removed the helmet? I don't think Desmond would wear the helmet 24/7.

You really thought that one out, huh? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yea it was a serious answer http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif . We need a sarcasm face. What I am saying that if a guy rode on a bike you wouldnt even be able to tell his identity. Full face helmet of course.

DeafAtheist
11-04-2010, 10:12 PM
I've never heard of Desmond having a tattoo although it wouldn't surprise me. However the real dude Desmond is modeled after, Francisco Randez has a full sleeve on his left arm.

zomgcookie
11-04-2010, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by DeafAtheist:
I've never heard of Desmond having a tattoo although it wouldn't surprise me. However the real dude Desmond is modeled after, Francisco Randez has a full sleeve on his left arm. On his left wrist. Plus notice the eagle on his shirt, not death metal or a raptor.http://nerdreactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Desmond-Assassins-Creed-Brotherhood-New-Look.jpg

X10J
11-04-2010, 10:16 PM
sweet thanks

also: raptor means bird of prey, like an eagle. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

DeafAtheist
11-04-2010, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by ninja_7_7:
Yea it was a serious answer http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif . We need a sarcasm face. What I am saying that if a guy rode on a bike you wouldnt even be able to tell his identity. Full face helmet of course.

I knew it was a real answer. I was being sarcastic because a helmet is only a temporary thing to conceal an identity only worn for the duration of while the person is on the bike. You obviously missed the point of my response to your helmet post so let me break it down for you.

Abstergo would be very meticulous in their search for descendants. Someone cruising around on a flashy speed bike would draw attention. Abstergo agents would be acting on intelligence from agents regarding possible sightings, last know locations... etc. So if a guy was cruising around on a flashy speed bike and Abstergo agents were around they would likely investigate even if to eliminate the rider as a suspect. So agents would follow him and watch for him to remove the helmet. Take photos of him and confirm them. So the helmet would not protect him for more than the duration of his bike ride. Once he stopped he'd remove the helmet and be exposed.

It's just not likely that someone in hiding would be cruising around in a flashy speed bike which would draw attention to them. It would be a stupid move and the helmet would not conceal their identity for long.

zomgcookie
11-04-2010, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by DeafAtheist:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ninja_7_7:
Yea it was a serious answer http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif . We need a sarcasm face. What I am saying that if a guy rode on a bike you wouldnt even be able to tell his identity. Full face helmet of course.

I knew it was a real answer. I was being sarcastic because a helmet is only a temporary thing to conceal an identity only worn for the duration of while the person is on the bike. You obviously missed the point of my response to your helmet post so let me break it down for you.

Abstergo would be very meticulous in their search for descendants. Someone cruising around on a flashy speed bike would draw attention. Abstergo agents would be acting on intelligence from agents regarding possible sightings, last know locations... etc. So if a guy was cruising around on a flashy speed bike and Abstergo agents were around they would likely investigate even if to eliminate the rider as a suspect. So agents would follow him and watch for him to remove the helmet. Take photos of him and confirm them. So the helmet would not protect him for more than the duration of his bike ride. Once he stopped he'd remove the helmet and be exposed.

It's just not likely that someone in hiding would be cruising around in a flashy speed bike which would draw attention to them. It would be a stupid move and the helmet would not conceal their identity for long. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Your argument still holds no weight and you seem to be ignoring my posts. IT. DOES. NOT. MATTER. WHAT. HE. RIDES. If they get Intel they get Intel, in previous AC's you were attacked by guards when riding on a horse. The new rule would probably be the more you ride a vehicle the more notoriety it gets. So go by some guards on any vehicle that is tagged and you get chased, end of story, not because they notice your 'crotch-rocket' as you like to call it. Your personal vehicle would probably act as the Auditore cape in AC2.

DeafAtheist
11-04-2010, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by zomgcookie:
Your argument still holds no weight and you seem to be ignoring my posts. IT. DOES. NOT. MATTER. WHAT. HE. RIDES. If they get Intel they get Intel, in previous AC's you were attacked by guards when riding on a horse. The new rule would probably be the more you ride a vehicle the more notoriety it gets. So go by some guards on any vehicle that is tagged and you get chased, end of story, not because they notice your 'crotch-rocket' as you like to call it. Your personal vehicle would probably act as the Auditore cape in AC2.

Yes it does indeed matter what he rides dude. People are MUCH less likely to notice riding a sports touring bike than a speed bike. Just like you'd be more likely to notice someone driving a Corvette than someone driving Ford Taurus. Common friggin' sense.

So if someone is sticking out and being more noticeable they are more likely to be caught.

Ezio and Altair are entirely different issues because it was a different time period and also part of the animus not the modern world. Ezio was also never noticed on a horse. Altair was noticed on a horse but only if he was riding fast or ran into a guard. If you walked the horse you could blend with the horse and not arouse any suspicion. But like I said that doesn't have anything to do with Desmond and his motorcycle.

My argument makes a lot of sense and does indeed hold weight. Someone on the run would not want to draw unnecessary attention to them and riding a speed bike would draw more attention to you than riding a sport touring bike. They would want to keep a low profile and try to remain as invisible as possible It's just common friggin' sense.

zomgcookie
11-04-2010, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by DeafAtheist:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by zomgcookie:
Your argument still holds no weight and you seem to be ignoring my posts. IT. DOES. NOT. MATTER. WHAT. HE. RIDES. If they get Intel they get Intel, in previous AC's you were attacked by guards when riding on a horse. The new rule would probably be the more you ride a vehicle the more notoriety it gets. So go by some guards on any vehicle that is tagged and you get chased, end of story, not because they notice your 'crotch-rocket' as you like to call it. Your personal vehicle would probably act as the Auditore cape in AC2.

Yes it does indeed matter what he rides dude. People are MUCH less likely to notice riding a sports touring bike than a speed bike. Just like you'd be more likely to notice someone driving a Corvette than someone driving Ford Taurus. Common friggin' sense.

So if someone is sticking out and being more noticeable they are more likely to be caught.

Ezio and Altair are entirely different issues because it was a different time period and also part of the animus not the modern world. Ezio was also never noticed on a horse. Altair was noticed on a horse but only if he was riding fast or ran into a guard. If you walked the horse you could blend with the horse and not arouse any suspicion. But like I said that doesn't have anything to do with Desmond and his motorcycle.

My argument makes a lot of sense and does indeed hold weight. Someone on the run would not want to draw unnecessary attention to them and riding a speed bike would draw more attention to you than riding a sport touring bike. They would want to keep a low profile and try to remain as invisible as possible It's just common friggin' sense. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Doesnt matter what type of bike, it still gets a lot of attention no matter what. Whenever i see a motorcycle i think 'unique'(tour bike or sports bike idc) or 'what a bunch of losers'. Of course i will notice the difference between a 70000 dollar car and some average ford. All motorcycles draw attention like no other. I see some brave guy on a bike im gonna stare at him til he disappears.

Good night

SWJS
11-04-2010, 11:12 PM
not wearing a jean jacket dude don't even try to pull that.
Where in my post do I ever say Desmond wears a jean jacket? I said he like JEANS. As in Blue Jeans.
Frankly, no valid arguments have been given about him leaning towards a chopper or a used bike or anything, just that he'd have a fast cool looking one. I never implied I believed Desmond rides a chopper. All my argument ever was is that Desmond wouldn't have a very expensive, flashy hotrod. The guy's a friggin bartender. As if he'd have enough cash for a flashy speed bike.

Desmond is Mr. Average-Joe-Who-Doesn't-Want-to-Attract-Attention, not Mr. Awesome McCoolguy-Who-Wants-Women-and-Money.

Honestly, I'm beginning to think the only reason anybody wants Desmond to have a speed bike is because it's cool and it's what they'd want to drive in AC3.

Serenity9066
11-04-2010, 11:18 PM
Maybe he's just a badass, and by the time he has this "new bike" he has super l337 assassin powers to subdue whatever onlookers that want to attack.

It's just a motorcycle <.<

zomgcookie
11-04-2010, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by EzioTheAssassin:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">not wearing a jean jacket dude don't even try to pull that.
Where in my post do I ever say Desmond wears a jean jacket? I said he like JEANS. As in Blue Jeans.
Frankly, no valid arguments have been given about him leaning towards a chopper or a used bike or anything, just that he'd have a fast cool looking one. I never implied I believed Desmond rides a chopper. All my argument ever was is that Desmond wouldn't have a very expensive, flashy hotrod. The guy's a friggin bartender. As if he'd have enough cash for a flashy speed bike.

Desmond is Mr. Average-Joe-Who-Doesn't-Want-to-Attract-Attention, not Mr. Awesome McCoolguy-Who-Wants-Women-and-Money.

Honestly, I'm beginning to think the only reason anybody wants Desmond to have a speed bike is because it's cool and it's what they'd want to drive in AC3. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Right before i go to sleep, you were implying how people with death metal shirts who like jeans favor a certain vehicle. Dont try to go back on it, makes your argument even weaker. I was giving an example with the women/money thing. If we are going to be nit-picky about this why cant he just lease one with his Bartender salary? So shouldn't the majority get what they want if it doesn't hinder the game and fits the character/storyline? He could steal one in AC3/4/whatever for all we care.

Caligula__
11-05-2010, 01:10 AM
Desmond shall hath...

http://decan.dk/ACRides/ACB_01.jpg

http://decan.dk/ACRides/ACB_02.jpg

http://decan.dk/ACRides/ACB_03.jpg

http://decan.dk/ACRides/ACB_04.jpg

http://decan.dk/ACRides/ACB_05.jpg

http://decan.dk/ACRides/ACB_06.jpg

Made by DecanDK, as I've already said, go here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/4071083098/p/1) for his epic designs http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Serenity9066
11-05-2010, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by Vx_McTavish_xV:
Desmond shall hath...

http://decan.dk/ACRides/ACB_01.jpg

http://decan.dk/ACRides/ACB_02.jpg

http://decan.dk/ACRides/ACB_03.jpg

http://decan.dk/ACRides/ACB_04.jpg

http://decan.dk/ACRides/ACB_05.jpg

http://decan.dk/ACRides/ACB_06.jpg

Made by DecanDK, as I've already said, go here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/4071083098/p/1) for his epic designs http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif
Very nice.

SlimeDynamiteD
11-05-2010, 01:21 AM
Nice Motorcycle!
But Imma stick with the White Kawasaki Ninja that I posted on the 1st or 2nd page ;d

Serenity9066
11-05-2010, 01:57 AM
Sometimes simplicity is better then detail. I dig the one posted by Mr V.

SlimeDynamiteD
11-05-2010, 02:33 AM
Mr V? What is he, 54? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Account_Deleted
11-05-2010, 03:02 AM
pw 50 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

zomgcookie
11-05-2010, 07:35 AM
Dont think the flower design really goes with the assassin theme and there needs to be less red. Im such a critic lol...

ninja_7_7
11-05-2010, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by DeafAtheist:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ninja_7_7:
Yea it was a serious answer http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif . We need a sarcasm face. What I am saying that if a guy rode on a bike you wouldnt even be able to tell his identity. Full face helmet of course.

I knew it was a real answer. I was being sarcastic because a helmet is only a temporary thing to conceal an identity only worn for the duration of while the person is on the bike. You obviously missed the point of my response to your helmet post so let me break it down for you.

Abstergo would be very meticulous in their search for descendants. Someone cruising around on a flashy speed bike would draw attention. Abstergo agents would be acting on intelligence from agents regarding possible sightings, last know locations... etc. So if a guy was cruising around on a flashy speed bike and Abstergo agents were around they would likely investigate even if to eliminate the rider as a suspect. So agents would follow him and watch for him to remove the helmet. Take photos of him and confirm them. So the helmet would not protect him for more than the duration of his bike ride. Once he stopped he'd remove the helmet and be exposed.

It's just not likely that someone in hiding would be cruising around in a flashy speed bike which would draw attention to them. It would be a stupid move and the helmet would not conceal their identity for long. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I stopped reading after flashy just because motorcycles arent flashy.

DeafAtheist
11-06-2010, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by ninja_7_7:
I stopped reading after flashy just because motorcycles arent flashy.

No? How do you figure? Do you even know what "flashy" means?

There are several definitions for the word, but the one I was referring to is... superficially attractive or impressive. So you're saying you don't think motorcycles are attractive or impressive? If that's the case then why are you so sure that a speed bike would be suitable for him?