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mouthfullofhhh
06-26-2010, 12:02 PM
For anyone who plays co-op, don't shoot the lights out... There's always a way round the guards, shooting the lights just spooks guards they whack on their flashlights looking for you making it harder!

Rant over

mrpiper999
06-26-2010, 01:22 PM
FINALLY, someone has some sense, I hate it when people do that, Ive actually pretty much completely stopped playing online because almost everyone I have played with does stupid crap like that

braiog
06-26-2010, 01:50 PM
Someone coined the phrase "Lightbulb OCD". I rather like that.

rainbowsixlv
06-26-2010, 01:54 PM
yeah i don't like that too

imported_tysonsflag
06-26-2010, 03:10 PM
i agree, but there are times when it is useful. I will shoot out a light if:
There is no light switch and we are about to enter a room packed with guards.
I can use it as a distraction to draw guards out of place, thus making me able to move around them.


The trick is to know why you need to do it. There is enough natural shadow on most maps to be able to go without shooting lights, but everything is ok in moderation.

dumbledorse
06-26-2010, 05:48 PM
Actually, I find shooting the lights the most easiest thing to do. Sometimes they are in groups of like 3 talking or something, and if you shoot at them it'll cuase the same reaction with the light, but they'll have more light to see you.
Their flashlights don't even give out that much light, only enough to see what's infront of them.

DCAustin007
06-26-2010, 08:01 PM
Keep in mind shooting a light switch also turns them off, and redirects guards.

Krollapse
06-27-2010, 12:43 AM
Another extremely annoying thing is people NEVER actually AIM from cover, they just press fire and let it automatically pop out and shoot, this is fine and dandy and all, but you have absolutely NO idea where your bullet is going to land, and it takes 1.5 seconds to do this, and it ALWAYS leads to them alerting the entire map of our presence, and always leads to me kicking them out.

Seriously, would it kill you people to AIM?

Xessive
06-27-2010, 03:53 AM
I think I've actually gone through the whole singleplayer game without shooting out any lights (except for the mandatory one in the beginning of the mansion).

In co-op I never really think about taking out the lights because there are plenty of shadows and I've gotten used to areas where the lights are bulletproof.

Online, when my partner takes out lights and draws attention to himself it just gives me the opportunity to slip by while he distracts the guards or take them out myself.

It's not too much of a bother but I can see it getting in the way of some missions.

That's usually the way the games wind up; like typical sitcom set-ups "One is a super-stealth specialist, the other is a loud-mouthed, lightbulb-shooting, non-suppressed-weapons-using, klutz! See what happens when you put them in the same map!"

jphong0603
06-27-2010, 10:09 AM
Too many 10 year olds playing a M rated game, that's the problem.

Dread_stunlock
06-27-2010, 12:40 PM
Whatever the guy said above about the age is obviously is commenting for the sake of a comment, as you play Conviction even more you find that the guards have eyes and they only detect what they see on their line of sight, so from that point you learn that it's not necessary to shoot lights + it gives a nice bonus when you don't shoot them.

One of them is being able to see your character in colour from so many Black and Whites.

Second is the fact that you don't make all of the guards turn their flashlights on.

It's all in practice.

Oh aswell as it prepares you better when the lights are protected by the metal casing.

SvEntEk300
06-27-2010, 02:39 PM
<span class="ev_code_RED">Yes, that is sensable, but I still like shooting out the lights because it gives me a chance to be stealthy. Theres always a way around it, even by shooting out the lights. After all, thats what the game teaches you isnt it? Stealth. Omg I think I'm giving a speech. xD</span>

Dellers
06-27-2010, 02:51 PM
I for one like shooting the lights out. I kinda like the darkness, sneaking around in daylight just doesn't feel as good to me...Plus IME it makes it EASIER to complete a map the more darkness there is, depending on the map of course. On some maps darkness is definitely necessary to take out a guard without shooting him (the alternative is everybody spot you). The only thing people do in coop that I really dislike is doing the maps too fast...People just run through the maps in 3 minutes, I like to take my time and observe the area, before making my move quietly...

roelbartstra
06-27-2010, 02:58 PM
This is the reason I use unsilenced pistol, this way I can't shoot out light or make "stealth headshots", or I will get 10 extra enemies. It make it a lot more fun. Plus it help get rid of the mark & execute. I now only use it when I'm in real trouble.

mouthfullofhhh
06-27-2010, 03:00 PM
You say you like the dark and being stealth, as I said there is always a way, there are more than enought dark spots to get out of tight spots. You only need the smallest bit of shadow to work your way round. Shooting the lights is just a means of rushing through a level without thinking.

Dellers
06-27-2010, 03:21 PM
Nah, it's not rushing. I DISLIKE rushing, everybody else keep doing that. I like taking my time, but I still like taking out those lights...When playing infiltration with the realistic setting there's always an enemy that will see you if you're doing hand to hand kills without taking out the lights first. They spot you extremely easy, especially because of the fact that they're usually 2-3 standing side by side

KenTWOu
06-29-2010, 05:44 AM
Originally posted by mouthfullofhhh:
shooting the lights just spooks guards they whack on their flashlights looking for you making it harder!
It's not exactly so.

When you shoot one light or do something else, if only one enemy detects this, you always have several seconds to eliminate him before he turns on his flashlight and alerts all base via portable radio.

V.M.R_JaRuTo
06-29-2010, 07:25 AM
"Comm link"

Originally posted by KenTWOu:
When you shoot one light or do something else, if only one enemy detects this, you always have several seconds to eliminate him before he turns on his flashlight and alerts all base via portable radio.
Confirm, Its true http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

"Archer" roger and out...

Boris5134
06-29-2010, 03:05 PM
No lights = stealth? I hate to break the ideal's of the younger crowd but ummmm.... WRONG!

Stealth doesn't mean unseen, it means having no recognition using any of your 6 senses, yes, MEMORY is a sense too. Light was on when I just walked through a room and if I walk BACK into the room and its been shot out and I'm SUPPOSED to be the ONLY one there, I KNOW someone else is there doing something they aren't SUPPOSED to be doing.

I haven't gone through ANY part of single player or co-op where you CAN NOT engage in hand to hand kills with lights around. Or for that, NOT being able to engage BECAUSE of lights. Just cause there is light, doesn't mean the whole world sees you. That is both taking my time, and running around breaking peoples faces. (And yes this also includes Iraq, very difficult, but it can be done)

Shooting out the lights and creating complete darkness only complicates the situation with guards on alert with their guns and flashlights drawn. You're more likely to get shot in the face, or countered in a hand to hand kill. And hand to hand kills can be done WITH and WITHOUT a pistol as I'm sure you all are aware. Holster that MUSTANG!

HinDary
06-30-2010, 03:02 AM
is there anyone wants to play co-op story together?? i am not a superhero or superstealth master, so be prepared i may get detected..... EMP, REMOTE BOMB and EMP gren, my favor~!!

Add me please~
Name: Hindary

P.S. No light shooting all the way out..... makes me get lost everytime.....

mamasboo
07-08-2010, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by Boris5134:
No lights = stealth? I hate to break the ideal's of the younger crowd but ummmm.... WRONG!

Stealth doesn't mean unseen, it means having no recognition using any of your 6 senses, yes, MEMORY is a sense too.


Alrighty, let's see what stealth actually means:

"The act of moving, proceeding, or acting in a covert way. 2. The quality or characteristic of being furtive or covert.

Marked by or acting with quiet, caution, and secrecy intended to avoid notice.

avoiding detection by moving carefully"

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So basically all of these definitions pretty much include the purpose of staying hidden and unseen.

Also, the human being has 5 basic senses, not 6. What is the 6th one to which you are referring?

"The traditional five senses are sight, hearing, touch, smell and taste, a classification attributed to Aristotle."

Other senses are:
Balance and acceleration
Temperature
Pain
Direction
Kinesthetic sense

Internal senses:
Pulmonary stretch receptors are found in the lungs and control the respiratory rate.
The chemoreceptor trigger zone is an area of the medulla in the brain that receives inputs from blood-borne drugs or hormones, and communicates with the vomiting center.
Cutaneous receptors in the skin not only respond to touch, pressure, and temperature, but also respond to vasodilation in the skin such as blushing.
Stretch receptors in the gastrointestinal tract sense gas distension that may result in colic pain.
Stimulation of sensory receptors in the esophagus result in sensations felt in the throat when swallowing, vomiting, or during acid reflux.
Sensory receptors in pharynx mucosa, similar to touch receptors in the skin, sense foreign objects such as food that may result in a gag reflex and corresponding gagging sensation.
Stimulation of sensory receptors in the urinary bladder and rectum may result in sensations of fullness.
Stimulation of stretch sensors that sense dilation of various blood vessels may result in pain, for example headache caused by vasodilation of brain arteries.

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I don't see "memory" listed as an external OR internal sense.

Also, sorry to break this to you but the word "ideals" as you used it above doesn't need that apostrophe. Just how young is the "younger crowd" you speak of when you can't even spell correctly?