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tempest_tamer
02-12-2008, 08:21 AM
Hey, I'm working on my graduate work, last paper or how do you say it at school about Oil. Information I find is really shocking:

For example, this apocalyptic site I discovered yesterday:
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Index.html

and

http://dieoff.com/page140.pdf

Believe, those are serious considerations and I know they are being discussed here in Europe. For example a famous and reputated french reporter wrote a book about it (without ever referring to this lunatic seeming site) but the book wasn't admitted to be sold in the USA (same journalist who wrote the story of: 'The world according to Bush')

I just thought to tell you because of its seeming importance,

I someone knows counterarguments I would be glad to hear them.

Remember, this would mean the end of the computer era

Deedsundone
02-12-2008, 10:36 AM
Whohoo!Back to the glory days of medieval. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

OMK_Hand
02-12-2008, 11:08 AM
Hi tempest_tamer.

Firstly:
There are workable solutions to the disasters that are happening/forecast.

See here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/reith2007/

Transcripts of these BBC broadcasts from last year are available by clicking on the links in the 'The lectures' column on the right side of the page.

"Professor Jeffrey Sachs argues that the world is in a period of turbulent transition and that the biggest challenges need to be navigated by broader and deeper global co-operation."

He's the first and only economist I've ever had respect for in his professional capacity.
I recon he's definitely on track.

The greatest problem appears to be that the style - tried and tested - of politics as used the world over by all Governments just isn't up to the job as it now is.
(All the traditional hoo-ha in the USA at the moment about who's going to be THE candidate... Fine if there's no life-threatening problem going on for all of us, but unfortunately there is...)

Government; any and all Government, has to face up to the fact that for us to survive with our technology and national views on civilisation intact they need to co-operate (share ideas and technology) without condition, and in all honesty, and with all haste. Of course, they don't know this yet. Or, if they do politics dictates they keep it a secret.

Once that minor problem is overcome, the rest is plain sailing really...

In the meantime here in England, our government will just continue to hold us - subjects of Her Majesty - responsible for all the bad stuff they find out about a year after it's happened (that's statistical government for you - they end up stating the bleadin' obvious with great solemnity), and punish us for being so thoughtless as to let it all happen by increasing taxes ever higher and doing little else.

Grr.... Don't get me started...

Secondly:
This topic needs to go here:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/2601013236

Good luck with your work. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

bhunter2112
02-12-2008, 11:32 AM
Yes it is all very interesting but please put "OT" on post.

HayateAce
02-12-2008, 11:36 AM
http://peakoildebunked.blogspot.com/2006/01/212-scary-p...tion-from-david.html (http://peakoildebunked.blogspot.com/2006/01/212-scary-prediction-from-david.html)

joeap
02-12-2008, 11:52 AM
OT please.

Tully__
02-12-2008, 02:42 PM
Moved to Pilots Lounge where it belongs.

Airmail109
02-12-2008, 02:46 PM
Its all BS, oil is going to become more expensive. But as it does so and as technology improves, we'll be able to get at the harder to reach stuff.

Theres not going to be a sudden crash. Its going to be with us for the next 50 years at least. And probably for the next century with use/availability declining rapidly after 2050.

Your not going to see people using horse and carts anytime soon.

roybaty
02-12-2008, 05:11 PM
Polywell fusion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polywell

If this works we are saved.