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Osirisx9
04-05-2005, 08:05 AM
Salute to all. Warbirds of Prey is pleased to announce our new server "Spits vs 109s"
Spits vs 109s is the Warbirds of Prey 41-43 European theater limited planset server. The missions on this server are scenerios that feature the (spitfire MK Vb , IXc, and IXc cliped wing) versus the ( 109G2,109G6,and 109G6 late 43). There will be a few missions with other earlywar aircraft enabled but all of the missions will be built around the Spitfire and 109 matchup. The Ip of this server is 69.9.37.146:21010. Only speedbar and minimap path are enabled on the server.The "Spits vs 109s" server is visible in Hyperlobby and the All Seeing Eye. Visit www.warbirdsofprey.org (http://www.warbirdsofprey.org) for more information about "Spits vs 109s" Salute to all and thank you for flying with Warbirds of Prey.

RAF238thOsiris

Henkie_
04-05-2005, 08:16 AM
Put in the MkVb '41 also http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Abbuzze
04-05-2005, 08:21 AM
Great!!!!!!

I wait all the time for such a planeset!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

THANKS!

LStarosta
04-05-2005, 09:02 AM
No G6/AS?

Blue-Lexus
04-05-2005, 09:08 AM
Flew there this morning. it was good.
Not sure I like the "No Icons" setting as identifying AC on a monitor screen is not easy. I found that by the time I was sure what the AC was, I had missed my shot.
Maybe with more pracice it will be easyer. Cliped Spits look like 109s to me.

JG53Frankyboy
04-05-2005, 09:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LStarosta:
No G6/AS? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

that would be 1944.......
i think we have to wait for Spitfire MkXIV http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

i like such planelimited servers a lot !
but perhaps you should change it to Spitfirevs109/190 - one map with 109 only, the next with 190s only - always the same istn that interesting. so there could be:

SpitV-109F4
SpitV/LF.V-190A4
SpitIXc-109G2/6
SpitIXc-Fw190A5
SpitIXe-Fw190A6
SpitIXe/HF.IXe-109G6AS/14
SpitXIV-109G10/K4
SpitXIV-190A9/D9

the last two hopefully soon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

p1ngu666
04-05-2005, 10:39 AM
spit IX or/and 8 vs g14
u could pop in some mustang C and B if u wanted too, raf had a few of them kicking about http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

MEGILE
04-05-2005, 10:42 AM
Great Server http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
Maybe one day you would consider SpitIXc vs. FW-190A6? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

thanks.

F19_Orheim
04-05-2005, 10:51 AM
took a spin today, red side and joined the additional TS. Great fun and nice guys on the TS server. A bit hard to distinguish spits from 109's for a few of the people. I would suggest that you set rules for nationality so that spits always fly with British nationality markings and German with German markings. There were quite many teamkills but I guess it's all just because some were not used to the settings and different nationality markings. Good fun though, thank you for the server

biggs222
04-05-2005, 12:17 PM
MAN i never thought id love fll real so much.. but last night i was on for about 3 hours.. racked up 7 kills in my spit IXc and wasnt shot down once!!! (i know i cant believe it either!)...

flying with ur left hand and lookin with ur mouse is tough but MAN are those kills rewarding... sneakin up on a jerry b*stard and fullin his **** full'a lead then diveing back through the clouds and back to base!!! wow what a thrill!!!

Best Dang server ive been on in a while!!!

i think the plane set is good the G2 can turn with the mkIX prety well and the G6s can have mk108s i think.. I think i heard/saw a big *** 30mm shell wizz by my canopy last night http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

THanks warbirdsofprey.org you guys rock!

TheGozr
04-05-2005, 12:19 PM
I like the no icon setup same as "Historia"

FatBoyHK
04-05-2005, 12:34 PM
just gave it a go. I am still a noob on both spit and 109, so this server seem to be a nice proving ground for me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

but I think no icon isn't helping us, because spit and 109 are quite similar....and the fact that people are not using correct insignia make thing worse, sometimes you really can't tell until he shoot. I think some icon setting similar to WC or ZvW should be used on this server...

and if the admin really wanna test the no-icon setting, it should be done on ZvW... Japan and US planes are quite different and not difficult to tell even in distance.

JG53Frankyboy
04-05-2005, 12:57 PM
pls dont activate icons, of any kind !

i personal have no props with that, im flying without icons now since IL2 BETA (since 3,5 years) in all online COOP wars. i alwasy hated these icons, even the short/only friendly ones on the most dogfightservers.
the map icon is ok on a dogfightmap.

but, perhaps more interesting maps instead of the flat online ones - like desert ore the mountain one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif .
ore at best, Normandy , even the visibility is very bad on this one.

Osirisx9
04-05-2005, 01:03 PM
If everything goes well . there will be two new maps on the server by the end of the week. One map will be added tonight if everything goes well durring testing. The current maps are basic mission maps. Also the Icons are not going to be turned on for this server. Salute to all and Thank you for flying with Warbirds of Prey

RAF238thOsiris
www.warbirdsofprey.org (http://www.warbirdsofprey.org)

Hetzer_II
04-05-2005, 01:04 PM
Funny thing is that even with this planeset red was loosing today... cant understand what red always do wrong..

;-)

Flyby_99
04-05-2005, 01:05 PM
Thanks for this new server. I gave it a spin, and I like (love!) no-icons. I'm such a bad pilot that no-icons gives me an even chance to spot and close on a bogey, then maybe get a shot off. Obviously, flying with someone and on comms makes the life of a virtual combat pilot a bit easier to bear. I'd also like to see you add just a few more contemporary planes, like the 190 variants for a2a, and a2g missions.
thanks again!
Flyby out

DarthBane_
04-05-2005, 04:51 PM
I flew today in a spit, it was great. My first time in spit. 109 had a hard time. Around 10 kills without loss. A lot of action among the clouds and on the deck. No icons is completely different type of play. There was around 5 spits looping and chasing each others tail for around 10 minutes. Than 1 109 appeared and all started the chase, while ocasionaly panicking and doing violent turns because of teamates firing all together over each others shoulder. There was few 109-s with allied markings adding to confusion. Spits with crosses also appeared. I had perfect deflection shoot at cliped wing spit, looked to me as 109, but it survived. Basicaly it is not certain if enemy or frend is sooting at you sometimes. I flew as Mephisto_

VMF-214_HaVoK
04-05-2005, 05:16 PM
Server stays full with no icons so no reason to add them in my opinion. Personally I wish ZvW would go the no icon route as well...but thats just me.

Once again another great server to fly on from Warbirds of Prey. The smoothest servers on HL...be sure. And no lame deathkick so people actually attempt objectives and venture across the line. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

RAF74_Poker
04-05-2005, 05:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hetzer_II:
Funny thing is that even with this planeset red was loosing today... cant understand what red always do wrong..

;-) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Obviously someone forgot to load the nooberuberover modelled spits ..... public flogging in the square !!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

LStarosta
04-05-2005, 05:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG53Frankyboy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LStarosta:
No G6/AS? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

that would be 1944.......
i think we have to wait for Spitfire MkXIV http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

i like such planelimited servers a lot !
but perhaps you should change it to Spitfirevs109/190 - one map with 109 only, the next with 190s only - always the same istn that interesting. so there could be:

SpitV-109F4
SpitV/LF.V-190A4
SpitIXc-109G2/6
SpitIXc-Fw190A5
SpitIXe-Fw190A6
SpitIXe/HF.IXe-109G6AS/14
SpitXIV-109G10/K4
SpitXIV-190A9/D9

the last two hopefully soon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


You yourself matched the IXe to the G6/AS... Flip flopper...

VMF-214_HaVoK
04-05-2005, 06:43 PM
You can get Spit vs 190 w/ubercannon matchups all day long in Warclouds. WoP run quality unique servers. Please dont ask them to start changing that. The server has become very popular very quickly just like ZvW did and it happend for a reason. They also run Warbirds_WF which will have the matchups some of you desire. And dont forget Warbirds_FISC and currently in the rebuilding phase Warbirds_PT_LW. Just my 2 cents http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

p1ngu666
04-05-2005, 06:53 PM
indeed, we dont need another warclouds, as there is already a warclouds http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

JG53Frankyboy
04-05-2005, 07:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
indeed, we dont need another warclouds, as there is already a warclouds http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

sry, as i dont fly warclouds -didnt like the planeset in the past when i tried it - i didnt know that there are also limited planeset missions.
i just thought the 109 AND 190s were the main oponents of the mighty Spitfire.
and btw , the megacanon MK108 is avaliable already !

but perhaps than in the future (PFm4.0) a Desert map with
SpitVc (than the reds have their mega 4xHispano) vs Bf109F4
would be ok ?!?!?!?

it was just an idea................

p1ngu666
04-05-2005, 09:02 PM
warclouds is all late war stuff, or was...

vc vs f4 might be fun, f4 is the better performer, i dont really like the mark V. mark 8 is my fav merlin spit, looks best imo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

and get scanning boy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

JG53Frankyboy
04-05-2005, 09:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
warclouds is all late war stuff, or was...

vc vs f4 might be fun, f4 is the better performer, i dont really like the mark V. mark 8 is my fav merlin spit, looks best imo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

and get scanning boy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

here are some of my favorite match ups http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

-Ardennes 1940
FAB €"
LW
Hurricane MkI , Cr42 vs Bf109E-4 , Ju87B

-NorthAfrica 1940
RAF - Regia Aeronautica
Hurricane MkI, J8A vs G.50 , Cr42

-NorthAfrica 1941
RAF €" LW/Regia Aeronautica
Hurricane MkIIb, Tomahawk IIb vs Bf109E-7/Z , MC.200 , Ju87B-2

-NorthAfrica 1942
RAF €" LW/Regia Aeronautica
Hurricane MkIIc, P-40E ,Spitifre MkVc vs Bf109F-4 , MC.202 , Ju87D-3

-MountainMap/Burma 1941
AVG - IJAAF
Hawk81 vs Ki43-Ia/b

-Guadalcanal late 1942
USMC/USAAF vs IJNAF
F4F-4 , P-400 , SBD-3 vs A6M2-21 , D3A1, G4M1

-NewGuinea 1942
USAAF vs IJAAF/IJNAF
P-40M , P-39D-2 ,A-20G vs A6M3 , Ki43-Ic , G4M1

-NewGuinea 1943
USAAF vs IJAAF
P-40M, P-39N-1 vs Ki61-Ko/Otsu

-NewGuinea late1943
USAAF vs IJAAF
P-38J , P-47D-10 vs Ki61-Hei

-Okinawa 1945
USMC vs IJAAF
F4U-1D vs Ki84-Ia

-Marianes 1944
USN vs IJNAF
F6F-3 , SBD5 vs A6M5a/b

-Kyushu 1945
FAA vs IJAAF/IJNAF
SeafireIII vs Ki61-Hei , A6M5c



-Kyushu 1945
USN vs IJAAF
F6F-5 vs Ki-100-Ko

-Singapore 41
RAF€" IJNAF
Buffalo Mk.I (B-239) vs G4M1 , A6M2-21

-Singapore 42
RAF/NEI €" IJAAF
HurricaneMkIIb , CW21 vs Ki-43-Ia/b

-Normandy 41
RAF€" LW
SpitfireMkVb , Hurricane MkIIb vs Bf109F-2 , Bf109E-7/Z

-Normandy 43
RAF/USAAF €" LW
SpitfireMkIXc , P-47D-10 , B-25J vs Fw190A-5 , Bf109G-2

-Normandy 44
RAF €" LW
Tempest , Spitifre MkXIV , B-25J vs Bf109G14 , Bf109G6/AS, Fw190A-8

-Ardennes winter 1944
USAAF - LW
P-51D-20, P-47D-27 vs Fw190D-9€44


and yes, i will scan http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

LStarosta
04-05-2005, 09:19 PM
Is the MC.202 finished? I recall hearing something about it being lost in some power surge or something... Or was that the Ju88... Gah! I don't remember....

p1ngu666
04-05-2005, 09:21 PM
u forgot one of the more amusing
ki43, vs 190... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

JG53Frankyboy
04-05-2005, 09:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LStarosta:
Is the MC.202 finished? I recall hearing something about it being lost in some power surge or something... Or was that the Ju88... Gah! I don't remember.... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=26310365&m=8201092203

Feathered_IV
04-06-2005, 04:24 AM
Tried it for the first time last night. Love the no icon setup. It really feels like the way it was meant to be played. I only had a limited ammount of time to try it out but I managed to bag a 109 and make another spin in at low level http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

I hope ZvsW goes the same way.

I'll be back for sure.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

VW-IceFire
04-06-2005, 07:24 AM
Be interesting to see the final stats. Does the Spitfire really have some "uberized" advantage over the 109 or is it just in peoples heads http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Tvrdi
04-06-2005, 07:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Osirisx9:
Salute to all. Warbirds of Prey is pleased to announce our new server "Spits vs 109s"
Spits vs 109s is the Warbirds of Prey 41-43 European theater limited planset server. The missions on this server are scenerios that feature the (spitfire MK Vb , IXc, and IXc cliped wing) versus the ( 109G2,109G6,and 109G6 late 43). There will be a few missions with other earlywar aircraft enabled but all of the missions will be built around the Spitfire and 109 matchup. The Ip of this server is 69.9.37.146:21010. Only speedbar and minimap path are enabled on the server.The "Spits vs 109s" server is visible in Hyperlobby and the All Seeing Eye. Visit http://www.warbirdsofprey.org for more information about "Spits vs 109s" Salute to all and thank you for flying with Warbirds of Prey.

RAF238thOsiris <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Finnaly! in all USAAF vs LW servers reds were flyin mostly the f spit...hehe....let the new guys (and those who farts in direction of the wind) be happy

Viper_42
04-06-2005, 07:56 AM
IMO you guys really need limited icons like zeke vs wildcat. I played last night on the server and everyone was engaging each other on their own team and its really frustrating to see a 109 on your tail when you're on the german side.

It's also hard for squads to distinguish whos who and such and if they want to fly together its very easy to lose each other.

RAF74_Poker
04-06-2005, 08:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Viper_42:
IMO you guys really need limited icons like zeke vs wildcat. I played last night on the server and everyone was engaging each other on their own team and its really frustrating to see a 109 on your tail when you're on the german side.

It's also hard for squads to distinguish whos who and such and if they want to fly together its very easy to lose each other. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think that's part of the enjoyment ...... closing on someone, not knowing if you're going to have to take a quick snapshot or a flyby.
Yes, there are teamkills, but there were cases of missidentification during the war also.
there is a teamkill ban so you'd better be sure of who you're shooting.
the ban will slowly cull out the repeat offenders.
I know I shot up a friendly clipped wing the other night ... thankfully he survived. It's easy to make the odd mistake .. but don't make it a habit and I think it will be fine.

I'd also like to see Z&W go to no icons.

If you're in a squad, designate certain rally points ... if you get lost, return to one of those to rejoin your flight.
We had a rally point last night on red and we were an ad hoc flight of 4 pilots on TS .. but we managed to do a pretty good job of staying together and covering for each other.

EAGLE_34_WO
04-06-2005, 08:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
Server stays full with no icons so no reason to add them in my opinion. Personally I wish ZvW would go the no icon route as well...but thats just me.

Once again another great server to fly on from Warbirds of Prey. The smoothest servers on HL...be sure. And no lame deathkick so people actually attempt objectives and venture across the line. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


"And no lame deathkick so people actually attempt objectives and venture across the line."


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gifYou obviously never fly Warclouds or you wouldn't have made that statement. Nearly everyone ventures across the lines in WC's. As a matter of fact most of the games end by targets being destroyed and not the time limit. The deathkick is great, because people don't just fly into a mass of enemy looking for maybe 1 kill then dieing soon after.

Anyway, I love the 109vsSpit server and flew it quite abit yesterday. Actually, I'm going there right now lol. Also it's a nice change having no icons as long as people are playing smart and looking before shooting.

salthill
04-06-2005, 09:19 AM
hi

is this WOP Spit vs 109 server a merged 3.04m one? or orig. 2.04?

cheers

Osirisx9
04-06-2005, 10:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by salthill:
hi

is this WOP Spit vs 109 server a merged 3.04m one? or orig. 2.04?

cheers <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The server is a version 3.04m server. Read more about it at www.warbirdsofprey.org (http://www.warbirdsofprey.org)

RAF238thOsiris
www.warbirdsofprey.org (http://www.warbirdsofprey.org)

VMF-214_HaVoK
04-06-2005, 02:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Viper_42:
IMO you guys really need limited icons like zeke vs wildcat. I played last night on the server and everyone was engaging each other on their own team and its really frustrating to see a 109 on your tail when you're on the german side.

It's also hard for squads to distinguish whos who and such and if they want to fly together its very easy to lose each other. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


If you check the stat page you will see that having no icons doesnt really effect friendly kills no more then a server with them on. As far as being able to tell enemy from friendly that comes in time. Once you do it enough you will be able to tell the difference easy. And besides that the way ZvW icons are set by the time you see A6M or F4F you are already close enough to tell easily if it is a Zero or Wildcat.
Most squads use comms to fly. If they dont have a server WoP host one. IMO you have to really want to fly and learn these settings or it will be difficult and frustrating. Even more so if you are making the leap from arcade to this.

VMF-214_HaVoK
04-06-2005, 02:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EAGLE_34_WO:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
Server stays full with no icons so no reason to add them in my opinion. Personally I wish ZvW would go the no icon route as well...but thats just me.

Once again another great server to fly on from Warbirds of Prey. The smoothest servers on HL...be sure. And no lame deathkick so people actually attempt objectives and venture across the line. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


"And no lame deathkick so people actually attempt objectives and venture across the line."


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gifYou obviously never fly Warclouds or you wouldn't have made that statement. Nearly everyone ventures across the lines in WC's. As a matter of fact most of the games end by targets being destroyed and not the time limit. The deathkick is great, because people don't just fly into a mass of enemy looking for maybe 1 kill then dieing soon after.

Anyway, I love the 109vsSpit server and flew it quite abit yesterday. Actually, I'm going there right now lol. Also it's a nice change having no icons as long as people are playing smart and looking before shooting. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually I have. I even flown it since way back when it was on UBI. Im not saying WC is a bad server and Im not hear to debate that. I spent many hours in there and had a good time. But you and I see it different as far as deathkick goes. And I know nobody that dies on purpose and chooses not to with DK on. If you say many venture across the line then maybe you see that but I certainly have not. And I have seen few people even attempt an objective with DK on. Before stats were reset in WC you would have seen that I had very few KIAs almost all from spawn kills no fun being temp banned for that. And thats why I fly...for fun and stress relief after a long day. Having DK off would not change that outcome for me, I fly the same way reguardless.

But all this means nothing really the admins will do in the future as they see fit. Reguardless of what they do I will always fly their servers. For the fact that they are different and challenging. Not too mention that they are very nice and respectable individuals who listen to their guest that have good suggestions.

Viper_42
04-06-2005, 04:37 PM
The limited icons make the game less exhausting. Not having to stick your eyes in the screen to tell if thats a spit or 109. This is just my opinion.

Also, it makes it easy for a spitfire to disguise themselves as a 109 when he has german markings, and a spitfire CW. Very frustrating.

And my point with squadron flying was that: Not all squadrons always hold tight formation and stare at each other for the entire trip and when you look a way just for a few seconds it's extremely easy to lose your buddy. The "dots" lose their form after a certain distance and start to blend in with the ground, that's why there's camoflauge http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I'm not demanding anything I just think having no icons on a public dogfight server is doing the opposite of it's intention: it's making it less realistic.

Tvrdi
04-06-2005, 04:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Viper_42:
IMO you guys really need limited icons like zeke vs wildcat. I played last night on the server and everyone was engaging each other on their own team and its really frustrating to see a 109 on your tail when you're on the german side.

It's also hard for squads to distinguish whos who and such and if they want to fly together its very easy to lose each other. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

icons??? when i see an icon that reminds me that Im in the game not in the real war http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif for us flyin this sim from the first release back in 2001. icons are funny u know.... u cant recognize the f messer from the distance? (look for the little crosses)....blue dots (planes from distance) are bigger http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif and the silhuetes are different....I dont know whats the prob here..maybe icons are good for older online pilots...thats only problem IMO


who wants icons go to warclouds playground

VMF-214_HaVoK
04-06-2005, 05:13 PM
I believe that atleast 2x antialising helps greatly in the ability to tell aircraft apart at distance when zoomed in. Atleast for it does.

quasimodo_3
04-06-2005, 11:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
Tried it for the first time last night. Love the no icon setup. It really feels like the way it was meant to be played. I only had a limited ammount of time to try it out but I managed to bag a 109 and make another spin in at low level http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

I hope ZvsW goes the same way.

I'll be back for sure.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



Flew it for the last few days. This is as full real as it gets and it's an excellent server. Found that in a furball tracking tracers will find you a target and zoom-lense cockpit for a second or two while on a prospective foe's six should give you a freind/foe confirmation without putting you in a precariously flash in the pan predicament.

Abbuzze
04-07-2005, 02:53 AM
Flown there two times, no need for icons, no more friendly kills than in the real war!
It´s just practice. And also Icons would be the end for the 109´s very often diving away is the last way out...

It also shows that the FM of Spit and 109 seems to be correct. Real hard live in a 109 but you can survive, also shows the "abilities" of the MG151/20... sometimes Spits seems to be made of steel, on the other sides very rare but with lucky hits they go down with a well aimed burst.

Already at 3000m the spits are flying circles around your G6late, that I use with 20mm cause of the better sight backward.

All the "109 had energy at will" whiner are inveted to fight a SpitIX in an early Gustav! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif They are simply not 1800hp monsters...

Hydra444
04-07-2005, 12:56 PM
Got the chance to fly in it last night....

OMG!It is sweet as sugar!Even though I'm not big on full-real servers,the chance to fly a Spit without having to listen to people cry and whine about was awesome.

As said before,there was no more or less team killing than what would have been seen life.I love this server!You've just made yourself a new fan http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

IVJG51_Greiss
04-07-2005, 02:12 PM
I had a chance to fly S vs 109 last night and absolutely love it. I've been on Zeke vs. Wildcat for several weeks now and really like the fact that the new FISC servers are no icon, adding a completely new feel.

The only thing I would suggest to folks is to watch the taxiways. I got rammed last night twice by folks taking off on the taxiways, taking off in the wrong direction, etc. Generally it's not being on comms that is usually the culprit.

Good communication last night on the axis side also.

Lav69
04-07-2005, 02:16 PM
Great server. Leave it just the way it is. Don't change a thing. It's a keeper. Thanks.

Tachyon1000
04-08-2005, 11:32 PM
I am enjoying flying on Spits vs 109s and the lack of any icons, friend or foe, is a welcome challenge. However, if the aim for such settings is realism, then I'd like to ask that "Markings On" be mandatory for flying on the server.

I am not sure if that is something that can be set server-side or not, but one of the features that definitely helps one identify friend from foe are the national markings. I have seen a number of players on this server flying without markings which can be very confusing or with the wrong ones altogether. As I say, if you are going for realism, markings on planes would be best.

I feel that perhaps in this no-icons environment, some players are taking advantage of the situation by dispensing with accurate markings whereas when icons are on, to some degree it makes inaccurate markings less of an issue. Be that as it may, if you can set "Markings On" for everyone, I think that would not only add to the server, but keep everyone honest, so to speak. Otherwise, you might specify that correct markings must be used by the players if you are so inclined.

Thanks for the server. I hope that you will give some thought to what I have said.

Tachyon

HelSqnProtos
04-09-2005, 12:30 AM
S~!

Thank you for the server. I would agree with the comments made about markings. You need to fix this. If its full real, make it so with proper markings for each bird.

Also I have to complain about the piss poor frame rates. I have an Athlon 64 3800 with 1gig DRR 400 and a 9700pro. I keep my system fully tuned and even go so far as to use FS Autostart. I noticed that on some maps my average frames were in the high teens or low twenties. I run in excellent by the way and no AA or AF. I think you should look into this. A good server should be able to provide smooth framerates of 60+

Osirisx9
04-09-2005, 04:35 AM
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S~!

Thank you for the server. I would agree with the comments made about markings. You need to fix this. If its full real, make it so with proper markings for each bird.

Also I have to complain about the piss poor frame rates. I have an Athlon 64 3800 with 1gig DRR 400 and a 9700pro. I keep my system fully tuned and even go so far as to use FS Autostart. I noticed that on some maps my average frames were in the high teens or low twenties. I run in excellent by the way and no AA or AF. I think you should look into this. A good server should be able to provide smooth framerates of 60+ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


First thankyou for flying with Warbirds of Prey but please dont assume that everyone is getting the same performance as yourself on the server. Also we might be able to help you achieve better framerates while on the server but using terms like "piss poor" is not really needed when dealing with the Admin at Warbirds of Prey. It's real easy to get our attention and we are willing to help anyone on an individual basis. We are very reasonable and welcome all the comments that our clients may have about the server. We only want to put out the best product for the community. Is everything perfect on the server. I would be the first to say no. There are too many variables between client and server and the server is only a week old. We try to tune the server so that it is enjoyable for most individuals. The server itself is a dual xenon server with 4 gigs of ram. Even while running 4 servers, the machine is only using 8 percent of its cpu capacity and 900-1000 megs of memory and a tad over 4 megabits of bandwidth. This is with a total of 100 pilots flying on all servers at the same time. The server is not even breaking a sweat. I agree that some of the issues may be because of map design, but not everything is the servers fault. For example on my machine I'm getting on average 45-50 fps on all maps on the server and my machine is not the most advanced machine . In fact my computer is an old dell with a 2.26 gig pentium with 2 gigs of ram, with a G4 4 Ti4600 card with only 126 megs of ram. When Spits vs 109s is running at its peak there are 50 pilots flying on the server. Not everyone can fly on a 50 person server. I know that one thing that made a big difference for myself is RAM. Also not everyone is going to get 60fps on this server. I know of only a few who get 60fps in single players with perfect settings. I know of two Admins on the server who do get that kind of performance while flying on Spits vs 109s and in single player, however but they have monster rigs. Like I mentioned earlier we are willing to work with you and please PM me at www.warbirdsofprey.org (http://www.warbirdsofprey.org). Again thank you to all for flying with Warbirds of Prey.

RAF238thOsiris
www.warbirdsofprey.org (http://www.warbirdsofprey.org)

jugent
04-09-2005, 06:15 AM
I have flown it some hours on booth sides depending on wich side needs more pilots.

I think its a turkey-shoot. The spit is to good.
The speed doesnt differ too much, it turns much tighter, its weapons is much stronger, the damagemodel is tougher in the spit. The engine doesnt boil so easy. It flies much nicer.

The abscense of icons favours the dogfight planes. I was intending to write turn and burn, but that doesnt match the zero-drag-spit, it turns but it doesnt burn.
The no-icons makes it hard to seek-out a prey for a Boom-N-Zoom.


I think that if a pilot flies smart with a spit and dont get into hazardous situations, it will be a die-hard-killer.

It like a duel when one fencer got light kevlar body-armour a rapier, the other got a dagger, no bodyarmour and shackle connected to a ironball.
Learn to fly is the reply to this.
Yes some very good pilots duels with succes despite this disadvantage, but for the most players its uneaven.

Monty_Thrud
04-09-2005, 07:11 AM
For those struggling to see markings, may i suggest ACESARTWORK (http://www.acesartwork.co.uk/), it helps my ageing eyes...oh and great server chaps.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif